#Shincheonji

[scj-seouljames]

Shincheonji Bible Seminar, Successful in Daegu... "You must check with the Bible, not your own thoughts"

Chairman Man-hee Lee's Revelation Bible Seminar of Shincheonji Church of Jesus, the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony in Seoul, Busan, Daejeon, Gwangju, and Incheon, was held for pastors successfully in Daegu amid fiery interest and response from pastors and believers. 

About 300 former and current pastors from various denominations, including Presbyterian, Methodist, and Full Gospel, visited the site at 4 p.m. on the 11th. A total of 2,100 pastors participated in the Bible Seminars, including the one in Daegu. 

Chairman Man-hee Lee said, "I hope everyone here will live together in the kingdom of heaven," adding, "If you look at the Bible, God and the kingdom of God will come to this land. All creation must receive salvation, and we must have that qualification," he stressed. 

He then said, "Jesus said to love and forgive, and if God forgives us of our sins, we should do the same," adding, "He told us to see and believe that the prophecy is fulfilled as it is recorded. The Book of Revelation is the history of recreation and there will be judgment."    Chairman Lee continued to explain the key points and physical reality from chapters 1 to 22 of Revelation. He said, "If you look at Revelation, 12 tribes seal 12,000 people per tribe to create 144,000," adding, "In order for the Bible to be fulfilled, the time of sinning in Revelation chapter 2 to 3 must also occur. In addition, the first heaven and first earth should disappear in Revelation chapter 6, and there must be the events of chapter 7." 

He also said "You have to check it with the Bible, not your own thoughts," adding "If you look at the Bible, the 12 tribes have the power to judge. You shouldn't judge [Shincheonji] as heresy without knowing the Bible."   

"All the chapters of Revelation was shown to only one person. The person who received and ate the book was sent to the churches,” Chairman Lee said. "After the creation of the 144,000, the multitude in white will come out. Everyone else cannot be people of the new era, just like [the people in] the time of Adam and Noah." 

"Shincheonji refers to a new era that is created after an era ends," said Chairman Lee, who mentioned the prophecy of Nam Sago. "In Revelation chapter 21, when the first heaven and first earth pass away, the new heaven and new earth is created, and God and the kingdom of heaven will come. The same logic as Noah's time," he explained.    "Since I have seen the prophecy and the physical reality of the Bible, I wasn’t able to deny it. I have seen, heard, and felt what have been recorded in the word, but it wasn’t my doing," he said. "If you look at Revelation 22:16, it says to testify to the churches what you have seen and heard, but will the churches accept it? You have to take a test in public based on the Bible," he also said. 

Chairman Lee said, "Nam Sago mentioned 'A good time of seeing out the old and in the new with everlasting youth'," adding, "Eternal life is also mentioned in Christianity and by Jesus. When this is fulfilled, it will really be fulfilled like that."    Chairman Lee explained, "Everything has been fulfilled up to Chapter 17 of Revelation. Chapter 18 is a problem, and only when it is solved, there will be the marriage between spirit and flesh," adding, "There are things that people judge, but God judges with fire, however, there are people in Babylon who are to receive salvation, so God is waiting until those people come out." 

"There is a resurrection in Revelation Chapter 20 after the marriage of spirit and flesh. It's the process of creating new people. God doesn't want people to die but He wants everyone to be saved," he added.

Pastor A, who listened to Chairman Lee’s lecture, said, “I was moved by the words of Chairman Lee while watching the video several times, so I signed an MOU,” adding, "I hope that many people will throw away their past perceptions through the right perception of Shincheonji and walk the right path after listening to Chairman Lee's word that is precise." 

Pastor B said, "I think it is a meaningful seminar because if a pastor hears this and learns the truth, he can deliver it to many people," adding, "In particular, while listening to Shincheonji’s teachings, I thought there was too much prejudice. I signed an MOU because I thought I could teach my church members confidently with this word," he said. 

"I hope this seminar will be an opportunity for pastors to reflect on themselves first and see if their church really fulfills the mission of light and salt that God wants. God's word is a complete word, if there is a prophecy in it, there is a fulfillment and if there is a question, there is an answer. You shouldn't say heresy just because they teach us the answer," he said. 

Meanwhile, as of May, Shincheonji signed MOUs with 7,804 churches in 80 countries and are exchanging words. Through that, churches that have replaced their signboards to Shincheonji Church of Jesus are learning the word of truth testified by the promised pastor in 1,087 places of 32 countries.

For more information, please visit: https://www.youtube.com/@ShincheonjiChurch_en

[howwelldoyouknowyourmoon]

Top German politicians have spoken at the Institute of Cultural Diplomacy which has connections to the Moonies Korean messianic cult.

▲ Sahra Wagenknecht (left) spoke at an ICD event, Dirk Niebel (2nd from left) sat on the ICD advisory board until May. The institute, directed by Mark Donfried (right), has connections to the Moon sect, known for its mass marriages through Hak Ja Han aka “Mother Moon" (2nd from right)

Sahra Wagenknecht is about to start her own new political party (was Linke before). One of Germany's cabinet ministers, Cem Özdemir (Green Party), also participated in ICD events.

Mark C Donfried founded the Institute of Cultural Diplomacy and is the Executive Director (2001-present). It focuses on the work of its academic department, the Academy for Cultural Diplomacy which is based in Berlin. He has a BA in European History and French from Columbia University, 1996-2000

From a VICE investigation published in German on October 27, 2023 (machine translation to English) “Donfried also has a few companies in Great Britain. Some have now been disbanded. They were registered at the address of the Universal Peace Federation (UPF), the Moon sect's front organization. An address suffix reveals that they apparently used the same rooms. Donfried hosted an ICD conference at the UPF premises in London in 2014. In 2020, he spoke at a memorial service on the anniversary of the death of cult founder Sun Myung Moon. He was also a speaker at a UPF conference in London in 2022. The connection between him and the cult seems to be close. According to his own statements, he is not a member.”

Bad teaching, 12,000 euros tuition fee: This is how a Berlin institute treats their students

Students are bothered by the fact that they don't learn anything. The head of the institute also has hardly any scientific expertise – but he does have contacts with politicians and cult members.

Schlechte Lehre, 12.000 Euro Studiengebühr: So zieht ein Berliner Institut Studierende ab

Studierende stört, dass sie nichts lernen. Der Leiter des Instituts hat auch kaum wissenschaftliche Expertise – dafür Kontakte zu Politikern und Sektenmitgliedern. LINK

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Donfried also has connections with another Korean messianic cult:

▲ Above: Sun Myung Moon and Hak Ja Han wearing Korean shaman crowns. Below: Lee Man-hee and his partner (now separated) wearing similar crowns.

In June 2014 Mr Man Hee Lee met with “Executive Director and Founder of the Institute for Cultural Diplomacy Mark Donfried to discuss on the cooperation between ICD and HWPL” [Man Hee Lee is the chairman of Heavenly Culture, World Peace, Restoration of Light which is a front group of Shincheonji – the Korean sect that held various covid superspreader events in Korean in 2020.]

Mark C Donfried co-hosted a Shincheonji Peace Festival in Seoul in September 2014.

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Wikipedia: Lee is a self-proclaimed messiah, whose followers believe he is immortal and infallible. … By July 2020, the Shincheonji Church was being linked to more than 5,200 coronavirus infections, or 36% of South Korea’s total cases. On 13 January 2021 Suwon District Court in Seoul acquitted Lee of violating the infectious disease laws. However Lee was convicted of embezzling 5.6 billion won ($4.7m USD) and obstruction of public affairs. Lee was sentenced to three years in prison. He remains out of jail on probation for four years.

LINK _______________________________

Prosecutors Raid Facilities Belonging to Shincheonji Sect in COVID-19 Probe May 22, 2020 KBS WORLD Radio News

City of Seoul sues church group Shincheonji March 24, 2020

[whatisonthemoon]

Shincheonji vs. Unification Church in Cheongpyeong

https://youtube.com/shorts/o2yxU8OesAY?feature=share\

Worth watching this short video to understand the difference between Shincheonji’s property in Cheongpyeong (”peace palace”) and Moon’s properties in Cheongpyeong (including the “peace palace”).

[flakey-von-wembstein]

FUCK YOU MEAN YOU MET WITH A CULT?????????? DUDE??????

well i don't want to bore anyone, but long story short, on my way to class today there were these two women who stopped me in the middle of the street and asked me some pretty innocuous questions, posing it as a "university assignment." some red flags went off mid-convo because i noticed neither of them were writing anything down or taking any notes, which you should be doing for an assignment or survey or whatever the hell, especially if you're doing street interviews? they weren't even filming me with a camera to record my answers and i thought that was pretty strange.

but they asked to meet up at a nearby shopping mall after school and i agreed, thinking i would just be helping these two women complete a uni assignment. i couldn't ignore the feeling that something was up though, and i was visibly on edge. my lecturer noticed this and i spoke with them about it, and they encouraged me to look it up, because unbeknownst to me, apparently there have been a lot of well known cults operating in melbourne? so i did, and y'all, it was really fucking bad. i was literally trembling lol

i called someone i trusted to take me back home and i was shaking so much. i don't think i've ever shaken that much in my life. this is going to sound crazy but i literally had no idea a person could tremble like that. like i thought it was only in movies and shit.

this is only the short version btw. it's a lot longer but like if anyone else wants to know more i can either make another post or just message you or something. i don't know, i feel stupid talking about it, like i blame myself for engaging with them lmao

PS: for anyone who lives in melbourne or regularly travels to the city (obviously in melbourne) be wary of these people. apparently they belong to an australian branch of a south korean cult, the shincheonji church of jesus. scary shit. i literally fucking cried on the way home with the person who escorted me there. if you look up "melbourne cult reddit" you can probably find more info about it. just bc ik i have a few ppl following me also living in victoria

[furmity]

Years ago I met a girl on the tram. She started talking to me and for the first time in my life I asked for her number so I could see her again. We met for a coffee and actually didn’t vibe, I didn’t see her again for ooh five years or so. Early 2021 she sent me a message asking if I wanted to join her Bible study group. I was just putting the Heretic into my Heathen and saw it was Fate. I agreed. I wanted to study the Bible but was certain I wasn’t going to be baptised anywhere. I was going to learn from the group up until that point was pressed. Not to lie, I told them that I was not religious, had never read the Bible, but that I did believe in God.

We met up with the leader of the group at a restaurant, got to know each other and the sessions began on Zoom shortly after, just the three of us. I was living with my brother and the Dutchman at the time and they were highly alarmed, you’d think I was hanging out with drug addicts (my bro looking at me with pleading eyes, “You’re not going to become a Christian are you?”). I promised this was all in service of Education and maintained an open mind.

First red flag was that they wouldn’t tell me which denomination their church was. Ok, ok. They had some interpretations of the Bible I’d never heard before, such as Jesus being very ugly and only the righteous saw past that to the truth of his teachings. It was all very friendly, very nice. I debriefed the dudes after every session.

At the end of however long, the big announcement for the Church was made and it was Shincheonji Church of Jesus. Why the secrecy? Well, she said, it has a bit of a bad reputation and they didn’t want to put me off. With these introductory sessions finished I was to undertake something like a hundred hours of Bible study to become part of the church. There, the point was pressed, and I said no. I was a week or two from starting my law degree and said I would simply not have time for that. I was told to sleep on it and get back to them. Naturally I went right to Google and read all the bad things. I said a firm no and they accepted my refusal graciously. I received a call from tram call two weeks later to debrief and she said that even outside of the church she wanted to remain friends, if I ever needed anything, so good to see you again...

It’s a cult. A doomsday cult. Their leader is an immortal messiah with a unique insight into the Bible, formerly associated with The Cult that set off cult alarm bells in South Korea (fraud, using followers for election purposes, causing injury with “healing” massage...).

Anyway, this is all background for what happened TODAY. As you know, I am not a witch, I’m not psychic, but I have my fucking moments! I was leaving work and saw someone who half looked like the girl I met on the tram, but wasn’t. I thought of the word Shincheonji for the first time in months, huh, what a crazy time in my life. Then, I crossed the road and a woman turned around exclaiming, “Furmity! I can’t believe it! You don’t change! So good to meet you again!” I couldn’t remember who on earth this was, old colleague maybe? Who? Said she was on her way to the very same restaurant and OH.

I FEAR people who are that effective at remembering names. She knew me for two months, two years ago, and I didn’t recognise her FACE. I politely got myself away, kind of dazed, I’d felt the ripples of her presence.

I feel no small amount of pride that I resisted cult indoctrination but then again I went in determined not to join. Realising who she was gave me chills, but it’s very difficult to have any sort of ill feeling. They were so nice, I see how enveloping this would be if you’re feeling low and don’t have anyone to talk to about what these nice people are saying. Such weird beliefs, such good social skills. She remembers the name of one who got away.

[unwelcome-ozian]

Do you know of any cults/sites around Melbourne Aus 2007-2013? Its ok if they are in the state of Vic in general instead.

Here are few:

The Fellowship Christian Fellowship The Exclusive Brethren Anthroposophic Medicine Outreach International Two by Twos Kenja

Newly arrived: Shincheonji Church of Jesus

Oz

[iplikchiolu]

Taiwan behind "Zhou Chu Eliminates Three Evils"

In the entire "Zhou Chu Eliminates Three Evils", the most refreshing scene is not the killing of a gang member, but the process of the protagonist using "great compassion, demon-slaying, and Glock Vajra Arhat" to kill the cult members one by one and physically save the cult members.

The reason why this part makes the audience on both sides of the Taiwan Strait feel so refreshed is that the harm of cults is deeply hated by the people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait. Let's look at a few cult cases that have caused great public outrage in Taiwan:

"Sun Moon Bright Kung" case, a brainwashed mother, the leader and "fellow believers" tortured her own son to death; "Holy Mother Church" case, cadres within the cult instigated believers to beat a believer to death in his home and abandoned the body at home; "Shincheonji Church" case, Zheng Mingxi, who claimed to be the savior, selected brides from believers and selected concubines through nude photos... sexually assaulted many female believers from all over the world; "Baby Tongshan" case, the leader Jin Jishun not only cheated believers of money, but also advocated solving problems with violence, and directly killed two people...

In addition to some murdered believers whose bodies were found, there are many believers who have been listed as "missing persons" because their whereabouts cannot be found. All kinds of bad behaviors have caused great harm to Taiwanese society.

Compared with the high-pressure situation that the mainland has always taken against cult groups, Taiwan's handling force is obviously much weaker. Even today, when the mainland has already made cult groups known to the world and continuously cracked down on them, the Taiwanese government still does not have a clear list of cults, which makes the Taiwanese people have to organize anti-cult identification propaganda on their own...

Due to the reality of Taiwan's vote politics, many Taiwanese leaders who graduated from prestigious universities and know very well that the doctrines of these organizations are nonsense will also find opportunities to burn incense, pay homage to the pier, and attract popularity...

Under multiple factors, the absurd scene of the current "spiritual groups" in Taiwan is as numerous as cattle hair...This also became the social basis for the explosion and killing of cult members at the end of "Zhou Chu Eliminates Three Evils".

[idagnyheter]

Shincheonji anklagas för att sikta in sig på studenter

Den koreanska gruppen Shincheonji, som beskrivs som en sekt av sina tidigare medlemmar, försöker växa i Australien. Den riktar sig specifikt till universitet och ungdomar. The Guardian har sett filmklipp och dokument som avslöjar rörelsens rekryteringsmetoder i landet. Tidningen beskriver hur medlemmar utger sig för att vara studenter och försöker bjuda in andra elever till bibelstudier, utan att…

[scj-seouljames]

The Success of Shincheonji’s Bible Seminar Held Across the Country Four Times That Resonated Greatly with Pastors

Chairman Man-hee Lee said, "Please judge the contents of the fulfillment of Revelation by the Bible, not by humans." 

Pastors with serious reactions said, "It was completely different from what the pre-existing churches say." 

A total of 14,000 people participated in the Bible Seminar and 1,500 pastors attended. 

The Bible Seminar which was held weekly by Shincheonji Church of Jesus, the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony starting from April 22, ended with a firey response with about 1,500 pastors from the pre-existing denominations attending. 

A total of 14,000 people including pastors, came to the Bible Seminar during the four-week period starting from Seoul on April 22 to Busan (April 30), Daejeon (May 6), and Incheon (May 13). It was also broadcast live on the official YouTube channel for those who could not attend the event, and has gained about 1 million views (98 million views) so far (as of May 17). In particular, the YouTube views in nine languages, including Korean, totaled more than 7 million views, confirming that reactions from overseas were explosive. 

                    

Chairman Man-hee Lee, who personally gave the lectures at the Bible Seminar under the topic of "Testimony on the Fulfillment of Revelation," repeatedly appealed in every sermon, "Please check the contents of the fulfillment of Revelation through the Bible." 

The pastors who also attended responded, "I ended up listening seriously to the secrets of the Bible that I had never heard of." 

Through this seminar, Chairman Lee introduced himself by saying, "I was born in a rural area and did not receive proper education of the world, and I had never learned the Bible from a seminary or anyone else, but I started my faith with the guidance of a star in the sky." 

He emphasized, "It is my appointed duty to convey the fulfillment of Revelation that I saw and heard one day to the churches, and for this reason, I am receiving all kinds of slander. However, I am conveying this message because it is a duty given by heaven."    "If the physical reality of the prophecies recorded in the Bible has appeared, don't you want to find out? If you were interested and believed in the Book of Revelation, it would be natural to want to find out. I really wanted to tell pastors the reality of Revelation that no one could have thought of or imagined," Chairman Man-hee Lee also said, explaining the significance of the meeting. 

At all the events, including Seoul, Busan, Daejeon, and Incheon, Chairman Lee summarized all the entire chapters of Revelation in about an hour and a half, respectively, and testified each chapter's prophecies and physical reality without hesitation. 

"It is a testimony of what I have seen and heard from Revelation Chapters 1 to 22, but the world does not accept this. Please look at the Bible, not the people. Please check the fulfillment of the Revelation that I saw," Chairman Man-hee Lee repeatedly appealed. 

It has been confirmed that the reactions along with amazement of the pastors who attended the Bible Seminar were trying to check the authenticity of the word without prejudice. 

Pastor A, a retired pastor, said after attending the Bible Seminar in Seoul, "[The Chairman] testifying the Bible as it is made it a time full of grace," adding, "It is so touching that he explained the entire Bible in detail without missing anything." 

In addition, Pastor B from Jeju, who visited the Bible Seminar in Busan, said, "When I came and heard the word, I felt guilty for misconveying Revelation to the church members. I'd like to be brave and listen to this word." 

Furthermore, the pastors who attended responded, "It was completely different from what the pre-existing churches say," "It seems that the Chairman has a different duty from ordinary pastors," "There are no words regarding worldly things nor speculation," and "I should definitely learn properly and deliver it to the church members," etc.

The fact that numerous pastors who attended the Shincheonji Bible Seminar responded like this is evaluated by a group of experts that began to sincerely verify Shincheonji's words. 

An official from the religious community, who requested anonymity, pointed out, "It is a phenomenon that should be paid considerable attention to in churches". 

"The Korean churches are too passive in educating the interpretation of the Book of Revelation and the end of the world. Since the mentioning [of Revelation] itself is a taboo, not only the curious believers but also the pastors are finding the word beyond the internet, and as a result, this has led them to the offline Bible Seminar," he analyzed. 

Shincheonji Church of Jesus said, "This Bible Seminar has led to the gospel of the fulfillment of the Book of Revelation being shared with not only pastors who have previously exchanged words [with us], but also new pastors," adding, "It seems clear that the atmosphere of 'checking it out' is spreading among pastors." 

              

All the events of this Bible Seminar were broadcast live in nine languages on Shincheonji's official YouTube channel. In addition, Tanzania and Uganda in Africa had broadcast this Bible Seminar on TV. 

This Bible Seminar is the first offline seminar held by Shincheonji Church of Jesus since 2020. Shincheonji Church of Jesus has held online seminars actively through its official YouTube channel since 2021. 

In the unique situation of the COVID-19 pandemic, believers have found a way to quench their spiritual thirst online rather than at the church that they were attending, and they can now naturally access seminars of Shincheonji Church of Jesus, which were burdensome to access offline. 

Through this atmosphere, MOUs for the exchanging of the Word began in 2022 as local and overseas pastors who heard Shincheonji's teachings through YouTube officially began to request exchanges. As of the end of April, the number of those people in 78 countries reached 6,600 (250 in Korea). 

It is noteworthy that more than 5,000 pastors are studying the teachings of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus. Furthermore, there are also pastors who want to spread the gospel under the signboard of Shincheonji Church of Jesus, (as of the end of April) about 700 churches in 29 countries, and the number of pastors belonging to the churches is around 870. The number of church members belonging to churches that replaced the church signboards exceeded 48,000.

For more information, please visit: 

https://www.youtube.com/@ShincheonjiChurch_en

[whatisonthemoon]

On Shincheonji: The litigation between Lee Man-hee and Kim Nam-hee

This is regarding Shincheonji, another Korean cult with connections to the Unification Church

This comes from a Reddit post translating a Korean article

▲Lee Man-hee in 2017

I am sorry I didn't think about pointing this out before, a little disclaimer is needed: I am neither a native korean speaker nor a professional translator and all the english subtitles and translations are by no means official. They are just part of my personal research on SCJ that I want to share with you. I will add this disclaimer to the previous posts too.

https://www.newsnjoy.or.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=300033

"Shincheonji's Second-in-command" Kim Nam-hee revealed her marriage with Lee Man-hee. She also disclosed a large number of proofs, including love letters, vows, and recording files.

Reporter Choi Seung-hyun, 2020.02.18

[News & Joy - Choi Seung-hyun] Kim Nam-hee (former IWPG CEO), who has been called the "Powerful," "Second-in-command" and "Mother," appeared on YouTube, revealing the details on how she got to marry Shincheonji's president Lee Man-hee and on their litigation over some real estates . This is the first disclosure of a top official since Shin Hyun-wook (former director of IWPG) quit in 2006 and became an heresy and pseudo-religions expert after working in Shincheonji for more than 20 years. On February the 16th, Kim Nam-hee said in an interview on the YouTube channel "JonJonTV": "Lee Man-hee is neither the savior nor God, he is just a human being. Shincheonji, that believes in Lee Man-hee as a savior, should disappear from this earth". In an 80 minutes interview, Kim Nam-hee unravelled the story of how she married Lee Man-hee and the following events in detail. She also revealed a large number of proofs, including a marriage pledge written by Lee Man-hee in his own hand, a love letter and a recording of key officials of Shincheonji who supported her as a "samo*" as Lee Man-hee's wife. Kim Nam-hee said she gained trust from Lee Man-hee when she leaded the Apgujeong World Mission Center, which is considered one of the key organizations of Sincheonji. When Mrs. Kim, who belonged to the Gangnam upper class, made achievements by mobilizing her private fortune to run the missionary center, she met Lee Man-hee several times, and before long Lee Man-hee proposed to her. Kim said, "Lee Man-hee said he was a bachelor, he said he had never married and never registered any marriage. Even at the parade, the woman that is called 'samo*' (Yoo Chun-soon) was sitting next to him and I thought they were married, but then he said, "she is a maid that assists me.'' Mrs. Kim said she couldn't refuse when Lee Man-hee proposed to her, even though she had two children with her husband at the time. She also mentioned that Lee Man-hee enticed her by saying: "There is a partner God sends from heaven, and that is you." When Mrs. Kim said that God can not be a household destroyer, Lee Man-hee answered: "That was a fence that protected you (until the time we met), but now He is making us to become one" and he induced her to divorce her spouse. She also claimed that after the marriage, Lee Man-hee insisted that he wanted a son with her and that he wanted him to be named Cheonjong, which means "the seed of heaven." When they argued, Lee Man-hee would get upset and say, "Where did you throw Chun-jong?". Kim Nam-hee said the reason behind their separation was money. She said: "Lee Man-hee is a swindler who only knows money. He was just pursuing my money". Kim said her money went into building large-scale facilities for Shincheonji, including Cheongpyeong Training Institute and Goseong Training Institute, as well as into the purchase of real estates like Cheongdo shelter and the site of Lee Man-hee's family shrine. She also said that when Lee Man-hee was hospitalized at Yeongdong Severance Hospital and Chosun University Hospital with symptoms of stenosis, she covered all the expenses for the nursing and the surgery. Kim said: "Having to provide all that money was hard, I have gone through a lot of hardships. During the construction of the buildings, Lee Man-hee paid less than a penny, but when everything was finished, he paid a few pennies and took half of it (ownership) to Sincheonji". And she added that, she ended up spending 400 billion won but still, Lee Man-hee wrote her a letter asking her to provide 100 billion won. Despite being divested of her properties, it was rumored that Lee Man-hee had chosen Kim Nam-hee as his successor, but Kim Nam-hee claimed that this was a slander to expell her from Shincheonji: "I asked him to clarify everything and put an end to these slanderous rumors about his own wife, but he just said, "I'll solve this," and "God knows everything", and everyday he just cowardly soothed me this way and moved on, and I thought it was strange. Now that I think about it, he had a scheme. He was planning to bury me" she claimed. In the interview, Kim also disclosed the phone conversation with Lee Sang-myeon, president of the "Cheonji Ilbo," an organization related to Schincheonji. Kim told Lee Sang-myun: "This (the rumor of Shincheonji's succession) is clearly defamation. Please write (an article) saying that I will file a complaint. This CEO said "We talk about it every time (at the General Assembly of Shincheonji), but the information keep going out because there's someone (who's leaking the information)." Currently, Lee Man-hee and Kim Nam-hee are in litigation over some real estates, including Cheongpyeong and Goseong. Kim Nam-hee noted that her assets were put up for court auction, and that Lee Man-hee appointed the country's leading law firm to win the suit. Kim Nam-hee said: "I am struggling to protect the small part of my properties that haven't been squandered yet. It is absolutely not for the purpose of taking anything away from Sincheonji or increasing my wealth". Meanwhile, Shincheonji blinded the video of Kim Nam-hee's interview less than 12 hours after it was uploaded on JonJonTV with a report of copyright infringement. Currently, only 13 minutes of a preliminary call prior to the interview that was made public can be seen. In response to Kim Nam-hee's sudden revelations, heresy experts said that we should consider the genuinity of her intents, and that Shincheonji will be certainly shaken. Shin Hyun-wook said, "First, I think we should be glad that she came out. Although it is possible that Mrs. Kim may move in the direction of making an imitation of Shincheonji or creating her own faction, we can not predict it". Mr. Shin added: "Shincheonji is now on the alert. This is conducting to an internal crackdown. Sincheonji will naturally cover it first, but then it will become obvious to everyone. Because it seems like it is spreading from mouth to mouth. It can't be silenced. I think this may be the biggest crisis since I came out. This revelations could be an opportunity for many to open their eyes and escape. If 4,000 to 5,000 people have left by the end of this year, I think more than 10,000 people could come out this time". Some say we should be careful when considering Kim's revelations. Cho Mee-eum, CEO of Right Media, in a telephone interview with News & Joy on the 17th, said: "Although what Kim Nam-hee revealed this time is true, it is what most heretsy experts already knew, Kim should first af all apologize properly to the victims who fell into Shincheonji because of her and make amend for her mistakes. If she doesn't, we should be driven to suspect that her purpose is to gain some point in the lawsuit against Lee Man-hee".

*Samo is the wife of an eminent person

[conversationpoint]

80,000 Members Of The Shincheonji Church Of Jesus Gathered For Sunday Service Astonishes Cheongju

http://dlvr.it/TD4GGn

[thealphareporter]

80,000 Members Of The Shincheonji Church Of Jesus Gathered For Sunday Service Astonishes Cheongju

http://dlvr.it/TD4FfC