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If Sylvanas could go back and change one thing without affecting the entire timeline, what would it be?
She would definitely try to prevent Lirath's death at the hand of the orcs during the second war as well as her parents' deaths.
She would likely try and change Vereesa's mind in training Lirath to fight as well as her mistake in turning Anduin into a tool to be used by Zovaal.
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The Second War goes as in canon, Quel’thalas is breached and Windrunner Spire attacked and family dies. Consequently, Alleria still has her one night stand with Turalyon and thus Arator is conceived asdnfkasdn
She sticks to what I headcanon her doing in normal canon: has her baby in Quel’thalas, never even tells Turalyon she was pregnant, hopes to never tell him he is a dad at all
When it’s time to go to Draenor, she initially intends to, but talking with Verana when she asks her to deliver the necklaces ends up changing her mind. Alleria still wants vengeance, and she still has a lot of survivor’s guilt making her want to die, but Verana makes her see there are people in Quel’thalas who are still alive and who need her there. So she ends up staying for Arator and her sisters.
I think Sylvanas and Vereesa (and Verana tbh I don’t know if y’all noticed but Verana is important to me asdnfkksjadfn) end up helping her get better — with properly mourning their family, and healing and realizing it’s not her fault and that her dying wouldn’t help anyone. With support from her loved ones (and a little bit of vengeance ngl) she ends up overcoming her worst phase. It’s something that will leave her permanently marked, and Lirath specially would always be a touchy subject but she’d heal and learn to move on.
Since she stays, she goes on with her original plan to raise Arator as a single mom and not let Turalyon know (I mean, Turalyon went to Draenor so for all they know he’d have disappeared and would be considered dead like canon). Being a mother isn’t easy but she does her best and she loves her baby boy very much and anyone who disrespects him for being a half elf will deal with a very angry Alleria tbh.
Also she would teach him ranger things and it would be very neat
I don’t think she would have kept the truth from Arator, but she’d only really explain things when he was old enough to understand. She’d tell him who his father was, in the least. I think she would avoid speaking of Turalyon in general, but with a little pushing from Arator’s part she would tell whatever little she knew of him to tell — because if she stays, the only contact she had with him was during the war and before he went to Draenor, and they weren’t exactly on good terms when he left. Alleria wouldn’t have much to tell, but she would tell Arator his dad was a good man, and one of the heroes that willingly went to Draenor to keep their world safe.
Which in turn means that come Legion Arator might knock on his door to be like hey I’m your son and Turalyon may go after her to be like how didn’t you tell me we had a son to which Alleria would shrug it off and be like doesn’t matter I didn’t mean to raise him with you.
She doesn’t fall in love with Turalyon, considering that only really happens in Draenor, but she doesn’t hate him. She regrets using his feelings for her when she didn’t feel the same. Otherwise, she’d see him as a friend, or respect him in the least, but there wouldn’t be any actual romantic feelings.
They live in Windrunner Spire and the Windrunners do not split as much as they do in canon. I guess they’d be closer to Sylvanas, with Vereesa going to Dalaran with Rhonin. Alleria has a lot of trouble staying in the Spire at first, following her family’s death, but she eventually overcomes this too. Arator probably helps a lot with that, because he has none of the painful memories — to him it would just be his home.
The downside of staying, of course, is they’re there when Arthas comes.
In this verse, I see Sylvanas and Alleria growing even closer than they were before, because I think Sylv would be fundamental for Alleria overcoming her grief after the Second War, and Vereesa leaves soon after with Rhonin to Dalaran, so she wouldn’t have been as active a part of it. Which also means it hurts even worse when Arthas kills Sylvanas because it’s Lirath all over again.
She still hates the horde forever, and still holds the alliance in high regard. Alleria would probably do what she could to foster good relationships between the alliance and the elves, even if Anasterian pulled Quel’thalas from it after Lothar died — and would probably try to influence Sylvanas to use her influence as Ranger General on that direction.
That is, until the Fall, because when none of the Alliance members offers them any aid (Alleria would probably try to reach out to them for help herself), she’d be very bitter towards them all, her respect for the Alliance dies with the Sunwell tbh.
She survives the Fall, and she makes certain so does Arator
this is already long sos I’ll try to talk less
She becomes Ranger General after Sylvanas dies bc she’s the last Windrunner left and this time she doesn’t refuse it because she feels guilty about Sylvanas’ fate
Alleria doesn’t turn her back to Sylvanas at all. Everyone else may be suspicious, but the moment Sylv has her free will back. The moment Alleria saw it was her sister again she’d stick with her no matter what.
She’s much more closed off after the Fall because it’s really hard for her not to fall back to the same state she was in following the Second War. The fight for survival (and her concern with Arator’s survival) is what she holds on to not to let herself slip.
She’d have become sin’dorei instead of remaining quel’dorei. Alleria is very much in favor of her people doing what they need to survive, no matter what.
She’d be very focused on getting revenge on Arthas. He’d be above even orcs in her hate list
She hates orcs even after the belfs enter the Horde. She hates all of them, will always hate them, but she understands the sin’dorei needed help and the Alliance wouldn’t give it to them
Vereesa taking part in the purge of Dalaran would make Alleria very resentful towards her tbh
No void business considering she never leaves
okay I’ll stop now but I could go on lol
#redeeming-sun#* muse: alleria windrunner / VOID TOUCHED.#* out of character: the mun / JUST YOUR LOCAL ANXIOUS NERD.
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QUESTIONS FOR MUNS OF CANON MUSES // accepting!
What is the biggest headcanon deviation from the canon material that you have incorporated into the way you write your muse? Why did you come up with it?
I’m not sure this is diverging from canon when I feel it’s largely that canon doesn’t bother to touch upon that, maybe because they think it’d make things more complicated than they wish to make them, but one important thing about my portrayal of Alleria is that although she is loyal to the Alliance, the sin’dorei will always be her people in her heart. Canon acknowledges she thinks of Quel’thalas as home, but it doesn’t dwell on her feelings towards her people, and specially following her exile, Alleria is never shown to still care for them. She definitely does, however; she loves Quel’thalas with all her heart, and although she was never actually sin’dorei, she very much considered them her people still. It’s true that nowadays she’s finding that sense of belonging more so in regards to the ren’dorei, but even then I think it’s hard for her to see them as a people on their own, and that for the most part they are more of a fragment from the sin’dorei. Given how long she’s fought to protect them, and how hard it still is for her to grasp the differences between how things were when she left and how they are now, Alleria is full of contradicting feelings, and her loyalty to the Alliance vs her feelings towards the sin’dorei is definitely one of them imo.
The biggest headcanon deviations I have are usually similarly tied to her feelings/relationship to other characters. I think I tend to write Alleria as caring a lot more for Sylvanas than she’s shown to do in canon (specially in regards to her relationship with her sister since her return, but even before that). Canon has a lot of “Vereesa and Sylvanas/Lirath and Alleria were closer to each other” but being the eldest two, I always lean towards them being quite close also, and in a very different way than Alleria would have been towards the two youngest, with Sylvanas being the one she’d have trusted the most as an equal on every level (vs being someone she loves and is very very protective of) at the same time I do see them clashing a lot and having a healthy degree of sibling rivalry. Perhaps as a consequence of my idea of it being that she was quite close to Sylvanas before, I also write Alleria as unable to be entirely uncaring towards her sister, regardless of how far she’s fallen. So to me, she says/acts like Sylvanas is dead to her because yes, she understands there’s no making up for everything she did, she understands the Sylvanas she loved doesn’t exist as she knew her anymore, and she’ll do whatever it takes for her to face justice; but deep down it’s not purely that, and some remnant of their bond will always be there, even if Alleria won’t let it get in the way of doing what she knows is right.
I also tend to deviate from canon in regards to her relationship with Turalyon, in that I don’t think it developed to love as fast as Beyond the Dark Portal has it, as well as that I don’t ignore there’s a lot they have to work through post Legion. I don’t think it makes sense with her as a character who is shown to not be emotionally open to open up so fast to him, and to act on it so openly when around other characters, either. It’d be tentative at first and she’d be terrified and probably tried to back away sometimes, but I do think eventually it would have worked because back then Turalyon is shown to be so in love with her and willing to put up with her bullshit and be there to catch her when she falls. I didn’t have a clear development of their relationship post Legion because I wasn’t sure where canon was headed with it, but it’s a constant that things aren’t good initially following Legion, and that she is very conflicted on where their relationship stands/if it can go on at all, but she clings to it all the same because she wants it to work (in no small part for Arator) and also because she’s just. Generally starved for affection and absolutely terrified of losing anyone else. But at the same time there are certainly things that have hurt her in what he did/how he acted, and they’d have to work through that. In regards to the earlier part of their relationship, I feel it would be a more natural development that way, and in regards to the more recent stuff, there’s just too much they need to address before they can be on actual real sincere good terms in a relationship that is still about love and trust and respect and ignoring that in favor of having them say they trust or love each other isn’t really addressing that kajnsfdkjsndf so I choose to do things a bit differently on that sense.
Last but not least (and arguably the actual biggest deviation from canon aksdnfaksjdf), I deviate from canon with her in regards to Arator, specifically in my headcanons about his conception/birth, timeline and her relationship with Turalyon. For my take on her, it’s all really messy; Arator wasn’t planned, but rather a result of her going to Turalyon for comfort when she was so messed up by grief, and she immediately regrets that and pushes him away afterwards, but then she’s pregnant. And she finds out she’s pregnant but she doesn’t let him know because she doesn’t want a relationship with him and she has been actively avoiding him and not answering to any of his letters since the war ended. And when they meet again in spite of her unwillingness to see him at all, she never considers it might be a thing she has to do, tell him about their son. So akdnnkasjnf that also complicates her journey with Turalyon to actually in love and happily together by the time of BtDP when they eventually have to have that conversation (which I figure would happen sometime before the inevitable doom of not having a way back to Azeroth is obvious, so Turalyon has the opportunity to see him, or at the very least still has to make the choice between going back knowing about Arator or doing what they gotta do to save the world). So yeah! For the most part my take on their relationship involves a lot of it being complicated and messy (but they keep finding ways to make it work ig). This was an attempt on making sense of the timeline and why Arator isn’t acknowledged in their interactions throughout BtDP at all, initially.
And this is minor but as per my portrayal she 100% gets Thas’dorah back after Legion bc she’s too attached to that bow to ever let it go it changes literally nothing but the bow she carries but it’s important to me because she’s shown to care so much for this damn bow and I can’t believe she’d ever just let someone else have it. When she dies pass it on to Arator and he can do what he wants but for as long as she’s alive it’s hers :/
What plots/interactions leave you feeling protective of your muse?
None really? As far as void interactions ever went, I guess I have a tiny bit of protectiveness in that I’m like
but at the same time it’s very fun and I’ll 100% throw her closer to a fall/corruption scenario in which she’ll be very distressed just because it’s so much fun to me akjsdfnaksjdfn I think the most protective I feel about her is when interactions have people doubt her ability to control her powers/retain her sanity, but that might be because that idea is very offensive to Alleria in general (so I also have some fun when that happens bc conflict is fun). So yeah! I don’t know if it counts as protective when at the same time I’m like that I’d also pretty much throw her in those situations and find it very amusing asifhaisufdh
#holyforged#the question: what is the biggest headcanon deviation from canon#me: makes a list bc I don't know how to read#* general: answered / DARK WINGS DARK WORDS.#* muse: alleria windrunner / VOID TOUCHED.#* character study: alleria windrunner / WILD AND WARM LIKE SUMMER.#me: :knife emoji: at void entities trying to corrupt alleria#also me: pls try to corrupt her I live for that
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why didn't alleria want to become ranger-general? does she wish that she had changed her mind considering all that happened, especially with sylvanas?
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MUSES // I live for those literally always accepting!
She never wanted to become ranger-general, even though that was pretty much what everyone expected would happen. She is more comfortable in the middle of action than she ever is with planning and commanding; and it’s not even that she can’t do that, because she is a capable leader when she has to be, yet leading is not really what she’s interested in doing or in her comfort zone for the most part. Not only that, Ranger-General is a position of power in Quel’thalas, not only related to rangers; the Ranger-General is responsible for their defenses and military forces at large.
Alleria wouldn’t have the patience to deal with ceremonies, she is terrible with diplomacy and politics, she did not treat the king with due respect, and then as well as now, she does what she thinks is necessary, even if it’s dangerous or against the rules. And those are all shortcomings she’s always been aware of --- in no small part, the way I see it, precisely because she was supposed to inherit her mother’s position, and so I can’t see Lireesa not having done her best to train her for that (I was pretty sure that was an actual thing that happened but it might be a headcanon since I can’t find it anywhere, I no longer know, it is regardless relevant to my portrayal of Alleria, so: Lireesa offers to step down at some point before she dies, and Alleria refuses to assume the mantle, so I do think her mother meant for her to be Ranger-General and would have tried to make sure she was ready for it).
So sure, Alleria can deal with battle plans and how to best employ her forces and where, and as far as defending Quel’thalas went I’m certain she’d do well; but anything else that came with the job she didn’t think she was the best person to deal with it, and Alleria was never really an ambitious person, so she is 100% okay with not taking a position she doesn’t think it’s what suits her best. She can defend Quel’thalas better as a Ranger-Captain, a position in which she can employ all the skills that she has and would be well suited for a General but at the same time a position where those shortcomings that may be actual problems don’t matter as much.
And she’s a lot freer which is always important to her. At the heart of the issue this is it: she’s wild and she likes her freedom and she wouldn’t have it as Ranger-General, not in the ways that are important to her.
Still, while those are all relevant as to why her decision would have been made even before her mother’s death, when she actually refuses it and Sylvanas assumes the position instead there’s even more. Alleria blames herself for her family’s death nearly as much (in fact more, I’d say) than she blames the Horde. She made the decision to leave Quel’thalas with those rangers that would follow her and go help the Alliance; she made the decision to listen to Turalyon and not go out on her own to try to reach Quel’thalas and give them a chance to prepare for the Horde (which, yes, he had good reasons to tell her not to, it was stupid and she’d probably die, but even if you tell her that right after her family died it’ll be like talking to a wall because she just won’t listen. can’t hear you, too deeply buried in guilt). Quel’thalas was supposed to send only a token force but she disobeyed the king (and presumably her mother too, given she states she’s there on her own when first meeting Lothar), and maybe it wouldn’t have made a difference if they were there, but what if it would? What if she had at the very least tried to reach them and they had known? But she didn’t and they are dead and surely if she had been better or tried harder or at least listened, surely they wouldn’t be all dead.
In no small part, her impulsiveness and unwillingness to compromise, her willful nature and just doing what she thinks is right, is to blame for her family’s death, or so she thinks back then; she feels utterly unworthy of assuming her mother’s mantle, well beyond just understanding her shortcomings. She keeps failing people; she absolutely can’t be the Ranger-General and fail again.
Funnily enough, she’s ten times more impulsive and unwilling to compromise and stubborn and just doing her own thing afterwards, but anyways
On top of that, she knows Sylvanas would do better as Ranger-General than she would, because her sister, while not a better archer, is certainly the superior tactician and commander the way Alleria sees it. And Sylvanas might actually want the position, while Alleria absolutely doesn’t. She believes in her sister in a way she doesn’t believe in herself in that regard; it is Sylvanas that would make a good Ranger-General, and Sylvanas that would make their mother proud.
All of that said, this is about her mindset when she made that decision. When she returns to Azeroth and learns of what happened to Quel’thalas and to Sylvanas specifically, I do think she would regret not having taken the position, or at least stayed on Azeroth. Whatever canon says, I think it’d be Lirath all over again in regards to how Alleria would feel -- she wasn’t there when her sibling needed her, and they died because of it. She could have been there, she could have made a difference, she could not save everyone maybe but she could have saved them, except she wasn’t there and when she returns it’s much too late. But Alleria is a lot more mature and less likely to break down and go on a murder spree in attempted genocide out of grief these days, so that guilt she just keeps to herself even if she doesn’t know how to let go of it (and doesn’t even try, because there is a degree of self-inflicted pain as punishment in that as well). She’s capable of understanding now that logically it may not have made any difference at all, that it may only have ended up with them both dead instead, but the what ifs never stop gnawing at her completely, and knowing what happens to her sister she surely would have made a different choice.
#ilianchant#all of your asks!!! so good#I was blessed thank you#the answer is a long ramble but kajndkfjnsd I do love to talk about my muses and all the asks are great#and with alleria specifically (and tyrande) I'm incapable of shutting up ig#aksjndkajsnd#thanks again! <3 <3#* general: answered / DARK WINGS DARK WORDS.#* out of character: the mun / THAT GLOOMY GIRL WHO SIGHS A LOT?#* general: headcanons / WHO TELLS YOUR STORY?#* muse: alleria windrunner / VOID TOUCHED.#* character study: alleria windrunner / WILD AND WARM LIKE SUMMER.#* dynamics: alleria windrunner & sylvanas windrunner / A SISTER IS BOTH MIRROR AND OPPOSITE.
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