#Shan Gudao

[jianghushenanigans]

jianghu bicycle Li Lianhua

[kseniyagreen]

I love this moment.

Abusive people, especially parents, usually try to drag you into a spiral of self-loss, when you yourself begin to feel that by fighting them off you are losing your dignity and betraying your values. A similar fate could await Fang Duobing.

But he makes just one bow to his biological father. As if to say in this way: “I appreciate the life you gave me. But all your merit in this life is worth one bow. Only one bow - and that’s all between us.”

After going through an idol image crisis with Li Xiangyi, Fang Duobing grew up to be a truly strong person.

[xthelastknownsurvivorx]

idk if anyone has written about this before but there's this big parallel/foreshadowing in terms of wang fu and fang duobing's biological fathers. specifically I'm thinking about this line from fang duobing in episode 2:

"you've not once thought of wang fu for over 10 years until you killed your witness and finally remembered the son you abandoned. what a great father you are. you only want to prop him up to be used to keep this soulridge order in the palm of your hand."

this is almost word for word what shan gudao did with fang duobing — only remembering him and offering him power when it was convenient and helped his overall plan. additionally, both xin lei and shan gudao hid their identities and wormed their way into established organizations (the soulridge order and jinyuan alliance respectively) with plans to betray the leader and seize power

i didn't catch this on my first watch but i'm guessing it was meant as a hint for when we learn shan gudao is fang duobing's bio dad and when it's clear shan gudao isn't quite who li lianhua remembered him to be

(credits to ruiconteur for the translation)

[shenzhiheng]

“Shixiong. Long time no see.”

Mysterious Lotus Casebook 莲花楼 | Episode 33

[nutcasewithaknife]

There's something about how Di Feisheng survives, spends a decade with the knowledge of Li Xiangyi's death, struggles to see the shape of a future without him, while Li Xiangyi does exactly the same for Shan Gudao. How Di Feisheng without Li Xiangyi would most likely have gone back to a joyless life of relentlessly pursuing power to survive, and how Li Xiangyi without Shan Gudao builds himself a new, peaceful existence that nevertheless leaves him as alone as before, that has only death after the relentless pursuit of correcting his incorrigible wrongs as best as he can. How Di Feisheng finds Li Xiangyi, alive but intent on dying, barely recognisable. How Li Xiangyi finds Shan Gudao alive, twisted beyond recognition, and is forced to face that he never really knew the man. How Di Feisheng slowly and surely comes to care for Li Lianhua, Li Xiangyi, whoever he is, while Li Xiangyi can only allow himself to feel grief and rage at Shan Gudao. In the end, Li Xiangyi must kill the one whose death he has spent a decade mourning, and Di Feisheng is left waiting for a match that will never come. When you build a life around one person, what else is left once they are gone? Do you leave the rest behind, or do you keep looking?

[murderedbyhomework]

Ykw let's talk daohua/daoyi

there's so much I can talk about the framing of this shot, but something that stands out to me is how despite llh being 2-3 inches taller than sgd, in this scene sgd looks much broader, taller, and generally just larger than llh. I've mentioned how both times llh/lxy cries bc of sgd he looks much younger than usual, but even in general he's always appeared younger/more like a child in front of sgd, especially as lxy. Even in ep12 where him and dfs were in similar framing, their size difference didn't appear quite as stark as daohua, despite dfs being taller than llh.

Idk just something about how sgd has always been a bit of an exception to llh/lxy, how he's the only one who lxy acts like the teenager he was when he's with him, how he's the only one who can get llh to slide into rage and not just cold anger, how llh/lxy notices and analyses everything about everyone around him, yet blindly trusted sgd alone.

[madamadragon]

There was a post about a ship between Li Xiangyi and Shan Gudao and this is what i picture in my mind

Tell me i'm not the only one

(credit to the artists)

[eirenical]

So... AS USUAL, approaching scary deadline immediately sends my brain into overdrive writing mode, so EVERY FIC IDEA I've had for the past oh... 3-6 months or so has come STREAMING OUT OF MY BRAIN every time I sit down at my computer. OTZ

Which is to say that there will be about 2K+ words of TRULY ill-advised (yet... honestly pretty consensual if you ignore the inherent power imbalance of LLH being chained up in a dungeon) daohua prison sex coming your way in another day or two when I have time to do some edits.

...hope someone other than me is feeling that. 😅

[purplexedhuman]

There's no need to go all out to defeat you.

Mysterious Lotus Casebook (莲花楼) Episode 39

[peridot-tears]

NARRATIVE FOIL THIS NARRATIVE FOIL THAT HOW ABOUT DI FEISHENG AND SHAN GUDAO ARE NARRATIVE FOILS BECAUSE BOTH WERE MALADJUSTED KIDS WHOSE CARETAKERS WEREN'T GREAT AT CARETAKING THEM AND THEY GREW INTO MARTIAL ARTS ADDICTS WHO WERE DETERMINED TO BE THE BEST EXCEPT DI FEISHENG DESPITE LITERALLY BEING THE ONE RAISED IN A DEATH CULT STILL DEVELOPED THE MORAL COMPASS TO PLAY FAIR WITH LI XIANGYI AND SIGN A PEACE TREATY WHEREAS SHAN GUDAO'S DEEPLY-ROOTED INFERIORITY COMPLEX DROVE HIM TO JUST MANIPULATE EVERYONE INTO WARFARE INCLUDING HIS OWN BROTHER

[a-memory-a-distant-echo]

ok, i'm gonna do it, i'm gonna be brave and ask the really difficult questions that no one else cares about.

[qpjianghu]

Li Lianhua + saying "You were my brother, Shan Gudao, I loved you" without saying "I love you" (4/?)

Mysterious Lotus Casebook (2023)

[kseniyagreen]

Dance with the ghost

I'm thinking again about the theme of ghosts in Mysterious Lotus casebook, and I'm inclined to think that it's not really about physical death. But about social death. The word ghost appears many times throughout the drama.

But the real ghosts in the drama are ghosts in the same sense as in The Word of Honor. Rejected by society. People invisible to society. Or people whose suffering is invisible to society.

In every case under investigation there are such people - women captured by a tyrant, strange people, disabled people, people with mental disorders, people with unusual appearance, injuries.

By investigating the cases, Li Lianhua and Fang Duobing make these people visible. First of all, thanks to Li Lianhua's gift of seeing. But Fang Duobing also has the prerequisites for developing this ability - from the very beginning he sees Li Lianhua, his first "ghost" . And then through it he learns to see others. By choosing the life of a ghost, Li Lianhua becomes susceptible to the lives of other ghosts. But he is still afraid of becoming a "lonely wild ghost" - someone who no one sees and who cannot be at peace with himself.

He goes through the journey, plunging into the world of ghosts and becoming imbued with sympathy and understanding for them. In this context, the theme of the ghostly marriage of Li Lianhua and Di Feisheng is also not about death and doom. On the one hand, it emphasizes the fact that they are both “ghosts”, in this metaphorical social sense.

On the other hand… this can also be seen as a metaphor for queer relations in conservative countries. When two people live as spouses, but for society their marriage is “ghostly”, invisible. And even queercoded love stories in dramas end up being “ghostly”. They are seen only by those who are able to see, but for everyone else they seem to be absent.

So the relationship between Li Lianhua and Di Feisheng is ghostly, because society does not accept their union.

But there is another side to the ghost theme. Who are the real restless spirits in this drama? Ghosts that exist beyond the boundaries of society? Or those who are struggling to establish themselves in this society? The ones who behave most like ghosts in this drama are the antagonists. They strive for one goal with such obsession, as if having achieved it they will be able to become real.

But they do not feel contact with themselves or with others. Therefore, their thirst for existence cannot be satisfied.

They get power - but it seems to them not enough. They receive love - but love makes them visible, which is unbearable for them, so they destroy everyone who loves them.

Shang Gudao received all the teacher's power, but it did not help him win. Because he didn't even remember the first lessons. Because he had never really seen the teacher, but Li Xiangyi had.

The ability to see and be seen is precisely what makes a person real.

But if the connection with someone or with a whole society becomes too destructive, unbearable, a person may choose to become invisible to others in order to remain real to himself.

Is this flight or protest? Maybe both. One thing is for sure - this is a failure for society.

As for the person himself... sometimes one or two people who really see you are enough to exist.

[jianghushenanigans]

goodbye li xiangyi

though i never knew you at all

[nutcasewithaknife]

Going a little insane about how clever bringing in the question of Shan Gudao's cloud iron armour and Li Xiangyi's cloud iron sword is. It immediately dredges up such gut-punching parallels. On one hand there's Fang Duobing being lied to by Li Lianhua and well aware of it. Li Xiangyi's sword might have been the only thing that could kill Shan Gudao, and the doubt in Fang Duobing's mind grows heavier because it immediately raises the possibility that those lies are hiding something much more sinister than a man running from his past. And on the other hand, there is Li Xiangyi being lied to by Shan Gudao all those years ago and doubting him. Once again, doubting his shixiong implies the possibility of him doing terrible things like child murder for very unrighteous and selfish reasons.

And the choice to juxtapose these two betrayals of trust in the lead-up to the Li Xiangyi reveal!! The way Fang Duobing doubles down and demands honesty, while Li Xiangyi mostly took his shixiong at face value despite his misgivings. The way it dooms Li Lianhua to either lose Fang Duobing for good, or finally face the possibility that his shixiong was not the person he has let himself believe. The way Fang Duobing eventually chooses Li Lianhua as his lies were hurtful but never sinister, but Li Lianhua goes on to find out that Shan Gudao's betrayal is what doomed everything then and now.

[murderedbyhomework]

@jianghushenanigans thanks to your post (genuine thanks lol I'm devastated but in a good way) Ykw I'm actually not over how Li Xiangyi/Li Lianhua looks so much like a child both times he cries over shan Gudao when he's not that angry yet

Especially in the light blue outfit he looks so much younger than usual I can't

Shan Gudao look at what you did to the child ok 😭 you had such a cute shidi who displayed his most pure innocent side to you, who'd sajiao at you and loved you and look what you did to him tf