#Sexy gatiss

[fancy-pansy]

Absolutely adorable Mark Gatiss in 'The League of Gentlemen's Apocalypse' 🥰 (there are some Jack Sparrow vibes for me, especially in the first two GIFs - idk why)

Bonus:

[save-the-sky]

yesterday i watched the latest mission impossible and remembered all the nights i spent dreaming about mark gatiss

[rey-jake-therapist]

Rewatched the first Sherlock Holmes with Robert Downey Jr and Jude Law tonight. I know it's another Sherlock that's not close to the ACD Sherlock and I hate that 1) they made Irene Adler Sherlock's love interest, without giving us any explanation about when they became part time lovers and 2) they made her Moriarty's pawn (I guess both ideas inspired Gatiss and Moffat for the BBC show, as well as the idea of reducing her to a badass sexy woman whose only 'weakness' is her love for Sherlock *Eyes rolling*) 3) it's not even an adaptation of Scandal of Bohemia so she's got literally no reason to be here except to emotionally destabilize Sherlock, which Moriarty himself tells her. And she end up being a damsel in distress yikes. At least in the show, the first time she only pretends to be one... Even if we got Karachi *sigh*.

Yet I have to say it was an enjoyable experience and I'll watch the second movie tomorrow. What can I say, I love both Robert Downey Jr and Jude Law and they make an awesome team as Sherlock and John...

[variousqueerthings]

FISH FINGERS AND CUSTARD

doing an obvious title to get into the Eleven Era Masterpost:

Obviously I did an individual episode rundown (not counting the James Corden ones, which aren't bad but do have pre-talkshow James Corden in them, so it's at your own patience level), which I called The Measurement

Secondly I put together a google sheet via a great template by @fabiansociety with every episode of the era, the first tab of which just goes through the ratings for every individual episode, with a total score and a means per season

the second tab looks deeper at each episode, with pros, cons, recommendation, important plot points, and watching importance, as well as the suggested watch I made for my partner and doesn't need to be followed

ON TO THE RUNDOWN:

season five has an average score of 61 out of 100 (not counting the eleventh hour, which at the time was only rated on nine points), a highscore of 71, and a lowscore of 42. The season rated highest on respect for past Doctor Who and relative clarity of episodes, and lowest on companion relevancy and general politics

(highest rated the hungry earth/cold blood, lowest rated the pandorica opens)

season six has an average score of 62 out of 100, a highscore of 86 (shared by two episodes, and a lowscore of 37. The season rated highest on not objectifying women and not making the Doctor too Godlike/overly important, and lowest on companion relevancy, female emotional interiority, and politics

(highest rated the girl who waited and the god complex, lowest rated the marriage of river song)

season seven (including the 5oth anniversary special and final episode) has an average score of 58 out of 100, a highscore of 82, and a lowscore of 36. The season rated highest on not being too annoyingly "sexy" all the time and not objectifying women, and lowest on politics and world-building

(highest rated cold war lowest rated the time of the doctor)

overall the seasons rated low on every season finale and Christmas Special. the writer who overwhelmingly scored lowest was Steven Moffat. Mark Gatiss scores from very low to very high. Chris Chibnall is mostly reliable (with the exception of Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, which I'm willing to give him benefit of the doubt on some of that dialogue being... him)

and now we've gotten some vaguely statistical stuff out of the way (see the rest on the google sheet) I can say how I feel about this era

1 I think watching it the way that I did gave me much more goodwill towards the parts that I very much enjoyed, as well as more words to go through why I didn't like what I didn't. the problem with Steven M*ffat's first run is that it takes some of the worse impulses of RTD's era (the Doctor being presented as overly Super-Powery With A Tragic Past As Trope), went way harder on them, patted himself on the back the whole way, and was incredibly, inordinately sexist and misogynist in treatment of women and worldview of women's roles

2. the interesting thing looking through my ratings is that I don't, on the whole, remember the politics sticking out that much, but that's because M*ffat was attempting to be apolitical with Eleven, which is a way of bringing out some of ones more conservative "unquestioned" inner politics

for M*ffat this looked like a glorification of military, monarchy, and Institutional Powers that aren't beholden to the people, alongside an ableist strand that simplified characters to words like "psychopath," and -- like in RTD's era -- a sort of colourblind approach to character that could often either lead to there simply being less people of colour around or casting people of colour in roles that were quite thankless. there are very very great people of colour in various roles, in The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood, The God Complex, Hide to an extent... but it's way too few and too far between. Correct me if I'm wrong also but Lucian Msamati in Vampires of Venice is the single Black guy we've got who's in a main episode role and isn't presented as villainous, cowardly, or stupid? (do nooot come at me with Journey to the Centre...)

(note that this seems to be much more self-aware going into RTD2, but I want to be clear that not everything in M*ffat's era was only in M*ffat's era, but I do think it was made worse... and the sexism though, oh boy)

3. Now for the more contentious bits: I think Matt Smith is the weakest actor to play the Doctor. that's not to say he's bad, but I don't buy his deep weariness, his anger, his intelligence, or his compassion-born-from-pain. I do buy his playfulness, his childishness, his flightiness, his stubborness, his meanness, and his sadness, but in the end I don't think he could grasp the full 3D complexity of this role, which to me led to a depiction that I could best describe as "that petulant fuckboy you met at a party one time with mommy and tantrum issues who thinks he's smart about the world because he's good at economics." that's a tad unfair, there's definitely more going on than just that, but when the Doctor makes me feel uncomfortably like I'm watching guys I've known at times that I never want to meet again, that's going to make it impossible for me to suspend my disbelief.. you've got to be able to sell that this silly creature is incredibly powerful without that seeming... a bit, well, silly and/or cruel

in episodes that play to his strengths, or in which he plays more of a supporting role, he does a great job, and I particularly think he does well on the extreme rambles while also making some sense, but the second he made a grand speech I was lost. this wasn't helped by M*ffat deciding to once again... up some of the worse impulses of RTD's era (many of these which came from him) and make Doctor Who ostensibly even sexier. Matt Smith very much tried to lean into some of that dialogue, but as M*ffat had River Song say in his own episode, he's got the face of a twelve-year-old

it's also hard to unsee that Karen Gillan was cast for her looks, and how the writing plays into that rather than character building and I think a lot of her acting (possibly directed to be as such) tries to "prettify" her rather than is... good

and lastly, with all that sexism and at-best centrist politics, the childishness of the seasons also makes me uncomfortable at times -- not that this isn't for kids, but when the tone veers wildly from "wow Dinosaurs on a Spaceship!!!" to "I'm going to put this woman over my knee and spank her," I'm going to say that that's jarring (and yes, I'm constantly bringing up that episode, but it happens in many ways in many places throughout the run, more or less obviously)

4. that being said, I really like the overarching plot of Eleven's run being surprisingly simple underneath all the flash:

Ten regenerates under bad circumstances into Eleven, who crashes into a little girl called Amy's garden, and due to the nature that we learn Eleven has -- the most Peter Pan syndrome out of all of them -- constantly lets her down, while trying to outrun the past, and eventually, although she loves him, she grows out of him and goes to live her life

Eleven then steps away from people entirely, becoming sullen, uncommunicative, and unhelpful, until very quickly sucked back into trying to help a woman called Clara who's stuck in some kind of eternally recreating across different times life. after losing her twice, he commits to helping her, and they become quite casually very very good friends, without a lot of the baggage that was around with the Doctor's relationship with Amy

I don't hate this story. I frequently hate how it's presented, how Amy and Clara are depicted, and I am not a fan of River Song's writing in practically every one of her appearances. but if I imagine this Doctor as trying to escape from deep personal connection and therefore eschewing "the average person" in favour of presenting themself as the most impressive being of all time... I can make that work on a meta narrative

if I strip out the very worst episodes and muddle through some of the middly ones, this era isn't bad, and is frequently very very good and works well in tandem with what came before (with Nine and Ten) and what comes after

but boy am I happy it's done with I'm not going to lie, some of that was like pulling teeth!

[quietwingsinthesky]

pros: missy flirting with another master in my ears

cons: I DONT WANT TO HEAR MARK GATISS DOING SEXY VOICE.

[catboyrightsdefender]

oh no i finally started watching tlog after staring at the dvd box for months, and i‘m only 5 episodes in but i‘m already obsessed with hilary and i‘m 100% prepared to blame it on you. i wanna [redacted] like. jesus christ i‘ve lived a life free of sexy thoughts about mark gatiss up until a few hours ago. what happened

oh my god i am SO happy to hear that. a new member for the hilarmy (hilary army) 🥩🥩🥩🥩🥩🥩🥩🥩 you're so real for this. also the fact that hilary out of all characters is what provoques your mark gatiss awakening is so iconic

[winchesternova-k]

former fan here: it abso-fucking-lutely does not

molly was the most well rounded female character on the show and most of her depth came from the fandom and was retroactively added in season 4. the treatment of irene adler was appalling and i still get mad abt it every time i think abt her or see her in any other adaptation.

all the female characters revolve entirely around sherlock (and ik the whole cast does but it’s to an even greater extent with the women.) molly’s main character trait for the first two seasons is that she’s in love with sherlock and the writers want so desperately for the audience to see this as pathetic, bc she’d NEVER be good enough for their special man. she’s JUST a woman and no matter how kind or clever or friendly she is she can NEVER be as smart as sherlock, and being kind is WEAK. and when she DOES try to move on the writing mocks her for that too. first bc she’s so desperate to be with a man that she ignores that moriarty is dressing flamboyantly and refuses to believe he’s gay (and nothing in the text refutes her! moriarty even says he dressed this way to annoy sherlock!) and THEN bc she was too ‘stupid’ to realise that her boyfriend is a mastermind criminal, despite there being no indication of this for her, AND that at the time sherlock didn’t know either. her relationship isn’t even about her! it’s about two men having a pissing match!

there’s slutshaming of a woman in the first ten minutes of the very first episode (sally). the woman in the pair is the only one attacked not the man, even though he’s married and she’s not. no, no SHE’S the disgusting one bc she gave him a blowjob and was rude to sherlock. (again, he’s MARRIED for fucks sake and equally rude). he also got a ‘redemption’ arc while she got written out. i also don’t think it’s a coincidence that he was a white man while she was a Black woman. (i use the term redemption arc very loosely bc the terrible crimes committed were; not believing everything sherlock said, and not kissing his ass. that’s it)

mary was probably the least terribly written woman on the show but there was still a lot of misogyny in her writing AND they fridged her. i didn’t even particularly like her when i was a fan (for the record i was 17 and tjlcer, so i was biased and not as media savvy) and i still thought she deserved better. she is somehow both praised and insulted for wanting to quit being an assassin and settle down to have a husband and children.

this isn’t even getting into the way the fandom reinforced this in a lot of spaces (obligatory not everyone, but it was Bad from a lot of ppl) or the characters that were only around for one episode (the latter simply because it’s been years and i don’t remember much of individual plots anymore just overarching season plots). i DO remember one of the characters from the blind banker who was written as needing men to protect her in a v specifically orientalist and racist way that was different to the white women on the show. there was a lot of racism in that episode generally which has been written abt at length by people far more qualified to talk abt it than me (googling ‘bbc sherlock racism’ or ‘the blind baker racism’ should bring up multiple articles and blog posts).

i should also add that mrs hudson mostly escaped this treatment but i truly think that’s only bc she was too old for moffatt to find sexy and subsequently sexualise and too dainty (im not sure that’s the right word) for either moffatt or gatiss to find threatening to their Male Power Fantasy TM. this is despite the revelations in s4 that she used to be involved in crime (maybe a syndicate? i really don’t remember) and that she maybe murdered her husband (or was at least suspected of doing so). it’s all treated as a joke in a way it wouldn’t be for any male character in her position. which is not to say that nothing abt it was funny, i’m sure there’s some non misogynistic jokes in there abt her past, but the main source of humour seems to be that she nice, and a homemaker and Feminine and therefore she can’t be a threat in anyway (i do vividly remember her shooting a gun but even that is shown as being non threatening bc sherlock is a Big Strong Man).

this also relates back to irene. her plot REVOLVES around her power being taken away bc the show asserts that she needs to be taken down a peg or two bc God FORBID a woman be confident and self assured and own her sexuality (and for that matter, not be attracted to sherlock) and know that she’s clever, and be secure in that fact. the only person who gets to feel that way is sherlock! her literal redemption arc is becoming humble and realising that she can never be as Clever or as Good as sherlock so that he can then rescue her from a very racist execution scene.

but in comparison, when we find out that mrs hudson was involved in crime and was clever enough to either not get caught, or form a successful life after (again it’s been a while and i don’t remember the finer details) bc she’s been shown as a Harmless and Demure and Humble old woman who in no way thinks she’s on the same level as sherlock (in fact she practically worships him the same way all the Good Women on the show do) the writers tell us that it’s okay! bc she knows her place and she runs to the Big Strong Men for Protection (usually sherlock but sometimes john)

and it could have been good! if the writers cared abt writing anything other than their own power fantasies (to the detriment of literally everyone else), the source material, or any group other than white cis men (mostly not queer, but also assimilationist gay men) it could have been an interesting take! but women, especially women of colour or queer women, and any other minority group can never threaten sherlock’s position (and by extension the writer’s position) of the Most Important and Special-est Person in the World

tldr; YES THIS SHOW HATES WOMEN

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[mimsypoo]

id say sorry to gatiss for the things i do but i saw his vs comment section video i know he wants people to think he's sexy so it's fine he'd probably endorse my behavior

[denimbex1986]

'Out Irish actor Andrew Scott may have been snubbed by the Oscars this year for his touching performance in Andrew Haigh's "All of Us Strangers," but he is getting love for his recent theater work. The 47-year-old actor received a Best Actor citation at the 33rd Critics' Circle Theatre Awards this past Saturday for his work in "Vanya," a one-man Chekov adaptation during which Scott plays eight different characters in conversation with each other. Scott is best-known to American audiences as the sexy priest on the second season of Phoebe Waller-Bridge's "Fleabag." For his work on the episode "Smithereens" on the anthology series Black Mirror, he was nominated for the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series.

Next month Scott stars in the title role of "Ripley," in which he play's Highsmith's anti-hero Tom Ripley in the new Netflix series. In 2013 he addressed his sexuality in an interview with the Independent, in which he said: "Mercifully, these days people don't see being gay as a character flaw. But nor is it a virtue, like kindness. Or a talent, like playing the banjo. It's just a fact. Of course, it's part of my make-up, but I don't want to trade on it. I am a private person; I think that's important if you're an actor. But there's a difference between privacy and secrecy, and I'm not a secretive person. Really I just want to get on with my job, which is to pretend to be lots of different people. Simple as that."

Deadline reports that Sarah Hemming, the chief theater critic of the Financial Times, described "Scott's performance in 'Vanya' as 'tremendously moving, dialing up the empathy at the heart of that great, humane play and at the heart of live theatre' when she presented him with the award."

Late last year Scott was given the Best Actor nod for "All of Us Strangers" from the Film Critics Circle, that is also under the UK Critics' Circle umbrella. "The win makes the Irish actor the first performer to be handed top honors from both of the UK's national critics bodies," adds Deadline.

And this may not be last acting award Scott could win for "Vanya." Last week he was nominated for Best Actor by the Olivier Awards, London theater's equivalent of the Tony Awards, which will be given out on April 14. His competition consists of actors who, like Scott, are known for their television and film work: Mark Gatiss for "The Motive and the Cue", Joseph Fiennes for "Dear England," James Norton for "A Little Life," and David Tennant for "Macbeth"...'

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D30 FRECKLES

[empressawesomecoolness]

fr tho how did Gatiss & Moffat look at this dude and think “ooh yeah we gotta get a sexy Irishman to play him so we can queer-code the fuck out of him lmfao”

I’ll never understand why BBC’s Sherlock is a lot of people’s favorite Sherlock Holmes adaptation. Maybe it was a lot of people’s introduction to the franchise, but I honestly don’t think it’s a very good one. Sherlock & John don’t even seem to fucking like each other very much for most of the show, they made the Reichenbach Fall so needlessly convoluted and the show completely jumped the shark with Sherlock’s unexplained fake death, Sherlock’s always a prick to everyone around him (not in a character flaw sort of way, more like stupid people writing how they think smart people act), it’s yet another adaptation that makes Sherlock & Irene into romantic lovers, Moriarty sucks and is a horrible villain with no real motivation or personality besides being a screamy flamboyant fuck who’s whole existence revolves around inconveniencing Sherlock (who didn’t even really know Moriarty existed until Moriarty made himself known to Sherlock), everything goes batshit stupid after series 3 and it turns into some weird spy thriller… idk, it’s a mess. You want a good modern-era tv Holmes adaptation? Honestly, watch Elementary

[pocketwatchofmycroft]

New photos of Mark dropped today and I've been admiring this one for hours now.

I mean, just LOOK AT HIM. He's so damn fine. <3333 🔥🔥🔥

[variousqueerthings]

Into the canal with the rejects

it's! The Crimson Horror! they're in Yorkshire in Victorian Times

sexism rank objectification (female character is ogled/harassed/turned into a sex joke by the doctor and/or a lead we’re supposed to root for and/or the camera): 4/10

sexism rank plot-point (lead female character is only there to serve plot, not to have her emotional interiority explored, or given agency to her emotional interiority): 4/10

interesting complex or pointlessly complex (does the complexity serve the narrative or does it just serve to be confusing as a stand-in for smart, this includes visually): 6/10

furthers character and/or lore and/or plot development (broader question that ties into the previous ones, at least two of these, ideally three should be fulfilled): 5/10

companion matters (the companion doesn’t always have to be there, but if the companion is there, can they function without the doctor– and overall per season how often is the companion the focus or POV of the story): 5/10

the doctor is more than just “godlike” (examines the doctor’s flaws and limitations, doesn’t solve a plot by having it revolve entirely around the doctor’s existence): 7/10

doesn’t look down on previous doctor who (by erasing or mocking its importance, by redoing and “bettering” previous beloved plotpoints or characters, etc.): 6/10

isn’t trying to insert hamfisted sexiness (m*ffat famously talked a lot about how dw should be sexier multiple times, he sucks at writing it): 4/10

internal world has consistency (characters have backgrounds, feel rooted in a place with other people, generally feel like they have Lives): 6/10

Politics (how conservative is the story): 5/10

FULL RATING: 52/100 (if I can count….)

ohhh this episode. OOOhhhohohooo this episode. it COULD have just been a fun little romp that was a bit silly, but ooh nonono. it had to do a THING. infamous THING!

OBJECTIFICATION: this is the episode that includes one of the most infamous fucking bits of sexism in the show

this being the Doctor grabbing Jenny, a lesbian, and kissing her without her consent (then when she slaps him, he says "you have no idea how good that felt") OH BOY

this episode also includes another between-the-legs shot of Jenny, and the Doctor reacting by his screwdriver pointing upwards (get it, like he's got a hard-on *fucking siiiiiiiiiighs*)

it's actually not more than this on the whole, but my goodness! bad and bad, this episode was written by Mark Gatiss, why did he think that was a good idea?

PLOT-POINT: Clara is mostly there to be captured and saved and then the others are like *gasp* it's Clara, who should be dead and the Doctor tells them nuh-uh-uh she's a different Clara. I'm not sooo much against this, considering there are quite a lot of female characters in this episode, including Jenny and Vastra, who lead a lot of the action part, and Ada and her mother, who lead the other action and the emotional stuff, including one great scene of Ada discovering her mother experimented on her and going Absolutely Ham, whacking her with her cane and screaming that she'll never forgive her

COMPLEXITY: it's kind of an over-complicated plot for what it is, but I don't hate it technically. it's a bit silly, but Doctor Who can be a bit silly

CHARACTERS/LORE/PLOT: sooo we get more Vastra, Jenny, and Strax which will matter for later in the season (in that the Doctor cares for them)

and at the end of the episode Clara finally has a little moment of wondering if something isn't going on, because the two precocious kids she cares for have discovered pictures of her from all over the past! but there's one she doesn't recognise, from Victorian London! who is that??? we wonder...

COMPANIONS MATTER: ehhh Clara doesn't do much, although she does get to smash a rocket control thing with a chair, good for her, but Jenny in particular does, and so does Vastra to an extent, and also Ada

“GODLIKE” DOCTOR: the Doctor also doesn't do so much, he also gets captured and then saved by Jenny, and then Jenny and Vastra save the earth, and Ada finishes off her mum

PREVIOUS DOCTOR WHO: uhhh not that I noticed, but it's not really an episode for Stuff

“SEXINESS”: THE AFOREMENTIONED KISSING SHIT! AND THE LEGS SHOT! AND THE SCREWDRIVER SHIT! listen, should this one bit of sequence judge the entire rest of the episode? maybe not but fuck iiiiiit

INTERNAL WORLD: it's not... reaaaally entirely... sensical. it's Doctor Who sensical, so it's fine, but this little town of perfect people encased in glass, it's yeah. it's fine

POLITICS: technically I feel like this episode ought to be political, considering it's set in Victorian Yorkshire (did it say where in Yorkshire, I'm trying to remember. me being lazy for a second and not just checking) and its themes of "purity" and luring desperate poor people in... but it's kind of not really important in the end

we do get some great female characters on the whole, but yeah. feels like a missed opportunity

FULL RATING: 52/100 (if I can count….)

this episode is not on the whole super offensive, it's mainly That Fucking Scene! it's mostly just a There episode. However I think it's elevated by genuinely quite fun female characters on both the good people and the villainous side

[markgatissappreciationsociety]

Gatiss Wins!

It’s official -- Mark Gatiss was named Sexiest Mycroft at the 2022 Sherlollicon panel, which used science to determine the rankings. 

This picture below was introduced as compelling evidence. 

(He is the only BBC Sherlock actor to win, with the other awards being Sexiest Moriarty, and last year, Sexiest Holmes and Sexiest Watson.) 

[rey-jake-therapist]

If their love story was an inspiration for her own love life, I really hope she's very young and will soon find another romantic ideal to get inspiration from, something healthier :/

I find Gatiss and Cumberbatch equally handsome :) And Cumberbatch, I don't find him attractive all the time. Sometimes the camera loves him, in Sherlock I find him very handsome, but other times it doesn't at all. He's not conventionally attractive that's for sure. I have a friend who finds him very ugly, my mother said he had a 'particular face'... 😅 Still in Sherlock he was meant to be considered attractive. I remember Gatiss or Moffat said they wanted a "sexy Sherlock". Gatiss is also very charming, I love how he's British from head to the toe :)

@inexpressiblybeautiful Do you have a link to the 2022 video that OP refers to in this thread? I tracked it down on Google but couldn't find it :(

@maryholmes94 I know it's an old thread, it just showed up on my dash for some reason. For what it's worth, I agree with most what you said there. I'm still trying to believe in this romance because it's the closest thing we'll get to a canon romance for Sherlock, and Irene's a very cool character, but my brain seems to just reject the idea that she and Sherlock have a future together.

I don't think Irene looks stupid at the end of ASIB though; her plan had a flaw that revealed to be fatal, but it was only because she was briefly sentimental. That said, had she not changed the password of her phone and had Sherlock not guessed what it was, she would have fooled them all. Tbh that was the weakest moment in the EP for me: that suddenly, at the right moment, he guessed that her password was "SHER". It's like when she called Moriarty just at the right time to save the day in TGG: forced coincidences have the habit of making me cringe ;) for the password, I often have fun thinking of an alternate version where he gets it wrong and looks stupid while Irene is victorious and gets everything she wants ;)

[atamh]

You’re so sexy

Obviously.