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liyazaki · 1 year ago
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I like you so much that if I don't tell you how I feel, I'll regret it for the rest of my life.
LA PLUIE THE SERIES | EPISODE 12
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gabrielokun · 4 months ago
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oyeicher · 1 year ago
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La Pluie Episode 4 & Stay by My Side Episode 3
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heretherebedork · 2 years ago
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So if Tien's name means candlelight and Lomfon's name is a combination of wind and rain... do you know what snuffs a candle's flame, leaving it dark and alone when needed most?
... I'll see myself out.
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syrena-del-mar · 1 year ago
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The Depths of Inner Turmoil: Exploring Isolation, Connection, and Vulnerability in La Pluie Ep. 10
La Pluie's manner in utilizing imagery really depicts what it means when a 'picture is worth a thousand words.' Since the first episode I had been anxiously awaiting La Pluie's dive into the fallout of Lomfon and Tien. Anything I had conjured up when I was imagining the scene did not even come close to how palpable Tien was hurt. Taking in, at face value, the image of Tien on that bench is painful enough, but the comparison to Tai, Lomfon, and Patts makes it hurt even more.
This time around, not only do I think that La Pluie was making a statement on Tien's own pain as the odd one out, but I also think they were showing the levels of isolation, connection and vulnerability that all four of them have found themselves in.
Isolation vs. Connection
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Patts, Lomfon, and Tai finding reprieve in their respective homes after the fallout of their shattered connection is significant. They're sitting, boxed in by the four walls of their homes alone, struggling alone, for the first time. They are finally completely and utterly isolated. None of the three ever really wanted to have their condition, but they were all tied together by the laws of nature in their universe. For once, they have the isolation that they had wanted, left just with their thoughts and without the intrusion of others in their mind, but that means the three of them going to have to come to terms with how lonely that actually is.
They're struggling through their pain isolated, physically separated and emotionally confined. Their respective homes are acting as a barrier from any form of contact with the outside world, Tai is especially disconnecting himself due to his nature of being conflict-avoidant. Tai seeks the comfort of isolation, because when you're isolated, nothing will rock the boat. Nothing can breach in and hurt you. Tai and Lomfon are the ones that have fully become trapped, emotionally confined and isolated into the four walls that surround them. They are forced to be with their own thoughts and feelings, to think about how their choices really lead them into that isolation. They're both choosing to hide their personal struggles and emotions, internalizing them, breaking all meaningful relationships (intentionally and unintentionally).
Patts seeks answers and comfort, a connection, first with Nara, yet he ignores her existence only downing drink after drink, because that’s not the connection he wants. Patts wants his connection (both literally and metaphorically) back with Tai but Tai physically shuns him out. As a result, Patts is also left alone, trapped, but not by his own volition. Tai isolates him, just as he isolated his own family when his parents divorced. Patts now takes the place of Tien, sitting outside his door. The key difference being that Tien knew that Tai sought the isolation, sending him only a note of reassurance, while Patts is trying to get him to open up while he's left in the other room to deal with own wound. All three of them are left to shield that pain away from the outside world, hidden by their walls of their home.
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In contrast, we have Tien, truly alone again, but this time he's just a numb shell of the vibrant and brash man he used to be. The only one that finds himself outside, still in his soaking wet clothes, ruminating in the pain. He's the unassuming collateral damage. He's the one that has always been totally alone before this, always the outsider looking in. In Tien's perspective, Lomfon readily throws that in his face, even knowing how sensitive Tien is, because Lomfon was only thinking about his own pain. Even if he had been interested in Tien before, the moment that Tai confirmed that he had been the one that saved him, for a split-second Lomfon was willing to try to believe in fate. Neither Tien nor Tien's warning ever crossed his mind in that moment. In Tien's view, Lomfon wanted to figure out his heart, but he did that at the cost of his friend by messing with his brother. The very brother that Tien had broken down and cried to Lomfon about, when Tien realized he hadn't "cared for him properly". While Lomfon might have only been the catalyst of the actual psycho-connection break with Tai and Patts, he's the one that unintentionally created the actual separation with Tien.
Yet, the fact that he's not boxed in, not confined, he's the only one that was willing to be vulnerable. He's outside, where anyone can see him, on a bench that is big enough for two people. In an invitation for someone, anyone, to come look for him or to comfort him. The emotional toll that the night has taken on him is absolutely visible to anyone that would pass him by. For the first time, he's not hiding his true emotions behind a mask. Out of the four, he's the only that is exhausted of hiding and distancing himself. The only thing that hiding got him was being sidelined by everyone he loves. So he's not hiding anymore, he's alone, but he's not hiding. His vulnerability is in complete display to whoever crosses him, he needs support and he might be unconsciously seeking that connection with someone (anyone), because the only connection that he did have, blew up in his face. But nobody comes, because he's hidden behind that mask for so long and he's put himself second for so long that people have forgotten that he has actual feelings and needs to be cared for as well. They've forgotten that Tien, behind all that brazenness and self-assertiveness, still needs someone to look out for him.
Internalization vs. Externalization of Emotions
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The image of the the three sitting in their own homes, in comparison to Tien who is all alone outside in his soaked clothes sitting in a bench, elicits a poignant portrayal of the internalization and individualized suffering that the three are undergoing. Each one of them are secluded in the confines of their own home, a microcosm that consists of the painful emotions that they are all experiencing. Patts is dealing with the fact that Tai doesn't meet his needs, fails to verbally choose him, and the thing that tied them together has completely broken apart. He’s clearly self-destructing with every drink he takes and the way he angrily calls Tai’s bluff, but it’s all the safety of the privacy of his home. Tai is dealing his own internal battle with his (misplaced) expectation for his actions to be sufficient for Patts when he doesn't verbally express himself. The only witness to his turmoil being Duer. Meanwhile, Lomfon is battling with the emotional fallout of having chosen to test out his feelings with Tai while losing Tien. While he might have been aware of his own feelings for Tien, he was completely caught off-guard that those feelings had been reciprocated. He knows just how much his words hurt Tien and the tears are threatening to spill. They're all pained by the fallout, but they're keeping it internally hidden behind the safety of closed doors.
All three are burdened with the weight of their own personal responsibility that caused the falling out of their respective relationships, and they're navigating the significance of that. With all the introspection that they are doing and are having to do, they've isolated themselves, hiding all their emotions behind the safety of their home and not allowing them to be seen by prying eyes. The shots of them in their own home side by side only shows their individualized suffering which has lead to lack of shared understanding. They're all making choices that lead them to isolation and loneliness, failing to allow any support to come through the doors of their homes. It's a choice that they have taken, to internally sort their pain out without the help of anyone else.
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Meanwhile Tien, who has no where else to go to, is left to sit on a bench outside, without the ability to change or wash away the pain that he incurred. For once, he's fully vulnerable. There's no amount of brashness or rudeness that can hide his own pain now. This time he can't keep his own emotions under a mask so he's not able to go comfort Tai because he's reached his limit. He can't compartmentalize anymore, because the one person he thought he could find a safe-haven in, hurt him the most.
He's emotionally exhausted and overloaded. He's stuck taking care of other's emotions, putting theirs before his own, leaving little time or space for him to wade through his own emotions. He doesn't allow himself to grieve his family life, the divorce affecting him just as much as it affected his brother, instead he sacrifices his emotional well-being. The lack of emotional respite has reared its ugly head and he's not able to even cry. In that moment he's just an empty shell, shutting down because how do you deal with a flood of emotions, all at once, when you did everything in your power to not have to? He had his walls built high, which Lomfon had started to breach only to find out that Lomfon, in his perspective, was only ever interested in his brother.
He's tired, he's worn out, he's given too much of himself already. The one respite, the one person that he thought he could turn to, was never really his. So he shuts down. There's no tears for him to cry, instead he shuts down his emotions as a means of self-preservation. Shutting down grants him protection from even more emotional turmoil and vulnerability. It's a means of self-preservation for Tien, because the only time he dares to think he means something to someone, he gets burnt. Abandoned, an afterthought, othered. Tien being stuck outside, his numbness and shell-shocked exterior, he's still choosing an outward expression in a public location where someone can come find him. Ironically, the lack of emotions is the most obvious and outward depiction of just how much in pain he is. Yet, nobody comes looking for him. Nobody ever does. Not his brother, not Lomfon, no one.
The one time that he's externally showing that there is something wrong, nobody comes searching for him. He's left on a bench made for two in the same wet clothes, outside and alone.
Final Thoughts
I think not only does the imagery of Tien outside wearing the same clothes as before while Patts, Lomfon and Tai had changed and washed up, in the warmth of the homes, really says a lot about where Tien is, emotionally, in comparison to them. Like @heretherebedork said, by putting himself second in every aspect of his life, he has also unintentionally hurt others [Lomfon in this case]. I don't even think Tien realized how emotionally exhausted he was this whole time, putting the happiness of his brother first, because he always distanced himself from the problems in order to be able to take care of his brother.
Tien is able to compartmentalize but he's not good at delving into his own emotions so he won't let himself ruminate in them. Instead, he's going to build his walls higher and tougher, to the point where he thinks he won't ever need to depend on anyone again. He'll go back to being the doting and hard-headed brother of Tai, not even seeking an apology for leaving him behind, for not checking up on him, because he'll never expect that out of his brother. He's Tai's emotional caretaker, not the other way around. This only reinforces his conditioning of independency and chronic escapism from his emotions, because the moment he needed and wanted someone else, nobody showed up.
This is coming a little late since life has been moving way too fast. I only have so many hours in a day, but I felt this was very important to discuss because it had been festering in my brain since last Saturday. It's going to be interesting to see in the last two episodes if all four of them can learn to grow out of the way they deal with their emotions and inner turmoil and learn to effectively communicate their needs.
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staydandy · 1 year ago
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La Pluie (2023) - ฝนตกครั้งนั้นฉันรักเธอ - Whump List
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List by StayDandy Synopsis : Saengtai never believed in destiny or things such as "Soulmate" but rather in his ability to make his own choices. Every time it rains, the sound around him silences, making way for the voice of his soulmate to be heard. On the other hand, Phat patiently waited for the unfamiliar voice but had never been fortunate enough to hear it. Even in the midst of a downpour, the voice of his soulmate was elusive. Their differing beliefs were like a game of tug-of-war played in the rain, with a rope of fate pulled by a stubborn person trying to win the other's heart and a denying person trying to escape the truth. If destiny played a role, would Saengtai be able to go against the will, or would it be Phat, who had been played by destiny? (MDL) AKA : I Loved You, That Time it Rained
Whumpee : Phat Wetchutianan played by Pee Peerawich Ploynumpol • "Tai" Saengtai played by Title Tanatorn Saenangkanikorn • "Thian" Saengthian played by Suar Kritsanaphong Sripattiyanon • "Lom" Lomfon played by Copter Nuntapong Wongsakulyong
Country : 🇹🇭 Thailand Genres : Romance, Fantasy, Supernatural, BL / Boys Love
Notes : This is a Full Whump List • Adapted from the novel "La Pluie" (La pluie ฝนตกครั้งนั้น…ฉันรักเธอ) by eddy • I actually loved the supernatural concept of the show at the beginning - but just over halfway through it started to get messy. Wasn't a fan with how the story progressed.
Episodes on List : 8 Total Episodes : 12
*Spoilers below*
01 : [flashback] Tai has a headache, ear ringing … [present] hits his shin on a bed frame
03 : (near end) Drunk … [drunk] Tai bites Phat 😂 … (srsly, do ppl really keep GIANT pictures of themselves in their own home?!)
04 : [flashback] Phat is bit, Tai passes out drunk.. pukes … [different flashback] still drunk
06 : Thian is drunk
08 : Tai is hiking on his own, exhausted … (omg Thian is the best brother) … suffering from heat exhaustion; unsteady, blurry vision, passes out & rolls down a hill … Lom head pain, passes out … Tai wakes briefly, passes out again.. found, sprained ankle, carried … [flashback] Lom passing out (i hate love triangles)
09 : [flashback] Passing out, & waking up in a bed … Tai limping, ankle bandaged
10 : Lom sick, collapses … beat up
12 : Thian has headache, ear ringing (this scene leaves it open to a possible 2nd season - of yet another messy love triangle - and idk if I want that)
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bl-bracket · 3 months ago
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Greenest Flag Prelims: Tian (La Pluie)
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Propaganda: "In the sea of red flags that is La Pluie, Tien stands out as the lone green flag, the one best boyTM who holds the rest of the problematic boys together. He is loyal to people he cares about, and will always be there for people who need him. He is gentle and supportive when needed, but will also call them out on their shit. He is open and honest, faces problems head on, loves loudly and proudly, and is so resilient and stable. No one sees him as a green flag because no one really sees him, he doesn't go around pursuing people, and he is hidden amongst the needier more dramatic people around him. He turns them all better and I think that in itself speaks to why he's a green flag."
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scarefox · 2 years ago
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yea I totally read that the wrong way first
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recentadultburnout · 2 years ago
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Names' Meaning
La Pluie The series
Phat พรรษ
Rain
Year
Saengtai แสงใต้
Southern lights
Saengthian แสงเทียน
Candle light
Saengnuea แสงเหนือ
Northern lights
Saengjan แสงจันทร์
Moonlight
Lomfon ลมฝน
Lom - wind
Fon - rain
Nara นารา
Radius
Varun วรุณ
Rain God, Water God
Rain
Yardfa หยาดฟ้า
something which drops from heaven, raindrops
The series name in Thai is "la pluie ฝนตกครั้งนั้นฉันรักเธอ" - la pluie fontok khrangnan chan rak thoe -la pluie that time it rained, I loved you
Index, Thai language and culture on ao3
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aprilblossomgirl · 1 year ago
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my favorite QL 2023 recaps: part 1 - look at the stars
+ bonus - the fourth star under the city sky: finally, a thousand stars.
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GIF 1. Tinn & Gun in My School President (2022-2023)
GIF 2. Khabkluen & Daonuea in Our Skyy 2: Star in My Mind (2023)
GIF 3. Saengthian (Tien) & Lomfon in La Pluie (2023)
GIF 4. Guy & Nawa in Dangerous Romance (2023)
GIF 5. Phupha & Tian in Our Skyy 2: A Tale of Thousand Stars (2023)
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liyazaki · 1 year ago
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stay with me?
LA PLUIE THE SERIES | EPISODE 10
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gabrielokun · 5 months ago
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oyeicher · 1 year ago
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Come on. Now, my little brother is teaching me?
La Pluie Episode 12
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wanderlust-in-my-soul · 1 year ago
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Top 5 characters you disliked/ hated in 2023
Top 5 main couples you were indifferent to in 2023
Hello hello... thank you for these... easy questions 😅 I really needed to think about the second one.
But let me start with 5 characters I disliked/hated in 2023. There were a few that I hated, but where I loved that fact (Hi Boston 💚) and then there were those characters I just couldn't stand.
Beginning the list let me introduce to you the one drunkhead I wish I could punch in his alcohol filled mouth...
Han Ji Yu from All The Liquors
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It is the fact that he glorifies alcohol to a really unhealthy amount and the fact that this whole series tried to let us believe, not linking alcohol is something inappropriate just blew my mind. The writing for this series and this character was just not good at all in my opinion.
And of we go to the biggest let down for me this year:
Minato Akira from Minato Shouji Coin Laundry Season 2
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I liked him so much in the first season. I adored his awkwardness around Shin and his journey to finally accept his own and Shin's feelings. And the second season took this development away from us and from Minato. He got stuck in denial and being over-emotional. He became unlovable and really annoying. The writers took away his charme and I really couldn't see anymore why Shin loves this man so much. I would have been so fucking frustrated with him after a few weeks. It wasn't quirky or cute. I really couldn't stand him.
And next in line:
Mew from Only Friends
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In the beginning, I thought okay, he is inexperienced, but he has his standards. He is a little naiv, but I can like him... yeah... nope. Since he started dating Ray to hurt Top and became a total fuck towards Boston, he lost all his credits with me. I get he was heartbroken that one of his friends betrayed him in that way, but the way he thought only the worst of Boston and never apologized for believing he SAed little Atom is just a no from me. And the way he treated Top and Ray annoyed the fuck out of me. Can't stand him.
Uhkay... next is a character some might defend, but I thought he was just a total selfish asshole:
Lomfon from La Pluie
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He might have a little redemption in the end, but too little, too late. He was a selfish prick. Yes, he thought he was in love with Saengtai, but he kissed him without his consent and just tried to interfere with the relationship between Saengtai and Phat. Okay, I really don't care about them that much, but he hurt Saengthian and this was one charcater I liked in this series and I will never forgive Lomfon for it!
At last there is this one character I wanted to scrape out their eyes....
Ye Wan Ying from Stay With Me
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I don't have a good gif of her and I truely don't care. She was a manipulative bitch and I wish her the worst! She tried to play SuYu and WuBi off against each other and made WuBi jealous. I don't like when someone hurt my favorites! She was evil. I hate her!
Okay, so far with the first list, let's move on to my top 5 main couples I was indifferent to in 2023.
I start with the one couple that made me drop the whole show:
Suansoon and Ongsa from Absolute Zero
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I really liked the first episode. I thought those two were cute together and I was rooting for them. And then the time travel happend and everything became a big mess. I lost interest in their relationship due to the fact that old Suansoon and young Ongsa became a thing and I lost my shit (not in a good way) about it. So I stopped watching it... and never regreted this decision.
On second place come
Joke and Zo from Hidden Agenda
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I liked them in the beginning, but at some point in the story I just lost my interest. I don't know why, but they really didn't catch my interest. It was okayish to watch while it was airing, but I have to say, I can't really remember what exactly was happening with them. All I know is I thought the drama was unnecessary.
The next one really made me sad
Win and Team from Between Us
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I loved them in Until We Meet Again. They were the best part of this series for me and I really was looking forward to this one. And then these two were...liveless. I don't know. I just couldn't get myself interested in their relationship. They felt so bland and without any surface. I can't really explain right now.
In number four we have
Johnny and HaiYi from HIStory 5
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From the start I was a Vincent/Wynn-girl. The main couple was there, but I wouldn't have mind if they just vanished. Okay, in the end I couldn't care less about all of the couples, but those two were just not for me. I think they were boring and the drama was stupid. Time travel in bl really sucks most of the times!
And at last we have a couple I adored in the beginning and just lost interest over the runtime of the show:
Saengtai and Phat from La Pluie
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I know this bl is loved my many and I can understand why (most of the times), but in the same way I sober up in seconds whenever a friend of mine is in need of help, I lost interest really fast in these two when the drama just annoyed me. Phat's jealousy, Lomfon's interference, Saengtai's secrecies and in the end Phat's anger and the way he was punching Lomfon, everything made me lose interest in them so fast! And to be honest, Phat became one of my most hated charcaters, when I think about it. I would have left him and never looked back after he punched Lomfon like that. I would never trust him again, that he won't hurt me, when we fight. Such a big red fucking flag for me. And yeah, just like that I lost interest in them.
Thank you very much for this ask!
ASK ME MY TOP 5 OF ANYTHING BL 2023
(I'll answer some more tomorrow... I need some sleep right now 😅)
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shouldiusemyname · 2 years ago
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In ep. 5 of La Pluie we get all the kids' names and I was wondering, so I went checking...
Saengnuuea - aurora borialis
Saengtai - aurora australis
Saengthian - candlelight
Saengjan - moonlight
Now, I'm just spitballing here, but......It kinda looks like a description of the parents' declining relationship... But then again, they might just be way into light.
And also, do tai's parents also have the same rain/hearing loss condition? How are they soulmates? What are they hiding?!
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chinzhilla · 2 years ago
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finally caught up on la pluie i desperately need to curl protectively around saengthian and shield him from the angst coming his way
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