#Saducees

[fictionadventurer]

Stories referenced:

Pentecost: Acts 2:15

Peter and John escape prison: Acts 5: 21-26

Peter escapes prison: Acts 12: 1-16

Paul and Barnabas worshipped: Acts 14: 11-18

Paul's fatal preaching: Acts 20: 7-12

Paul's rules-lawyering: Acts 26: 30-32

Paul's snakebite: Acts 28: 1-6

Paul turning his enemies against each other: Acts 23: 6-10

Philip's teleportation: Acts 8:39

[greater-than-the-sword]

"You made a saducee very upset" LMAOOOO

[orthodoxadventure]

It is essential for us to confess that the Holy Ever-Virgin Mary is actually Theotokos (Birthgiver of God), so as not to fall into blasphemy. For those who deny that the Holy Virgin is actually Theotokos are no longer believers, but disciples of the Pharisees and Saducees

Saint Ephraim the Syrian, "To John the Monk"

[judaismandsuch]

On...This Nonsense

So, I saw this graph in a group I am a part of, and it is so increadibly wrong that I need to rant about it:

K, this is dumb for .... a lot of reasons. I am sure Muslims and Christians can see a load of issues that I can't, but that aint my focus.

I'm just going to talk about the Jewish religions, the flow, and use Christian and Muslim religions as comparisons.

First of all, the term of the parent religion: "Judaism". The term comes from "Judean" or basically members of the tribe of Judah.

The first definite use of it as a general term for Hebrews is in the Scroll of Esther where it calls Mordechai "a member of the tribe of Benyamin, a Jew" (paraphrased for clarity). That takes place around 480-350 BCE (scholars argue about which Emperor is the one mentioned).

(the term is used elsewhere/earlier, but usually a refrence to a member of the tribe of Judah, or else in a way that could go either way).

Now the reason I mention that, is because:

"Northern Tribal" would never have used the term, as they are from the ten lost tribes, and had a separate kingdom (Israel) VS Binyamin and Judah who had the southern kingdom (Judea).

Samaritans consider themselves to be descendants of the tribe of Manasheh and Ephraim, so wouldn't use the term either.

So the top religion should really be Bnei Ysrael, or Hebrew, or Isrealite.

Next: what the fuck is "Northern Tribal"? The split b/w the ten tribes and the 2 was political, not religious. They remained the same religion until they stopped existing/were lost/ the Samaritan split happened.

I even googled "Northern Tribal Judaism" (and variations) and couldn't find jack shit. It really shouldn't be on there.

Now, when/how Samaritanism and Judaism split is both a theological and historical debate. (to the point that talmudically there were issues with drawing lines between the 2). Hell, I have hear people use the term "Samaritan Jew" before. But tbh, it is innacurate, and insulting to both religions imo.

But either way the first split should be: Judaism-Samaritanism

On the same level in the chart it has Saducee, Pharisee, Eseen, and Christianity.

Which is bonkers. There were difference between the three groups, but they were not on the level of being schisms or seperate religions like christianity.

If you wanted to argue that they are, then Christianity would be descended from one of them (or all three). Because there wasn't a monolith religion for all 4 of them to come from. The split was there when Jesus was born.

So After Judaism you either have "Christianity" Or you have "Pharisee" "Saducee" "Essene" and then a line below you get christianity.

Next Line: "Karaite" "Orthodox" "Sephardic"

That is the most bat shit thing I have seen in my life.

First of all: "Sephardic" isn't a religious movement or theology. It is a culture and set of traditions. Putting it in a flowchart as its own heading, the same way Christianity and Islam do is insane.

Secondly, even if you do so, the others in the split should be: "Ashkenazi" "Temani" "Mizrachi" and a couple of others. not "Karraite" and "Orthdox" Next, while Karraite does deserve it's own spot (I can do a dive into the theology of it later) It Should be as a descendent of Pharisee with the other branch being Rabbinic.

Next: "Orthodox" with descendents of "reform" "conservative" etc.?

No! The term "Orthodox" exists as a counter to those! And only (until very recently) in Ashkenazi Judaism!

Now maybe the reason that they divided Sphardic it's own heading was to indicate that they don't have sects like the Ashkenazi do, but still, wtf?

And Splitting Hasidic that way? like it is equivalant to any of the splits in Christianity or Islam is batshit.

So really after "Rabbinic Judaism" you should get: "Ashkenazi Sectarianism" and "Not that"

And put all that shit under Ashkenazi Sectarianism.

Anyway, this graph sucks, Maybe I'll improve it later.

[bernardo1969]

The Gospel of Saint Matthew is very brief in describing the life of John the Baptist, however, the spiritual task of this prophet was to anticipate the arrival of the Lord Jesus and his eternal Kingdom. And with these words, John addressed the common and simple people at the Jordan River for the repentance of sins: "Repent of your sins and turn to God, for the Kingdom of Heaven is near" Matthew 3:2. John preached the Kingdom of God, the empire or dominion of the divine perfections, and taught that this spiritual Kingdom had to be personified in a redeeming Messiah who was to arrive soon, although as the gospel relates, he personally did not know who this figure was. And like Jesus, John the Baptist also had problems with those who held the religious power, the Pharisees and the Saducees, and he addressed them saying that because of their religious authority, they would be judged more severely than other people, so he told them these words as a warning: "The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire" Matthew 3:10. These words of John the Baptist bear a great resemblance to the teachings of Isaiah in the poem about the vineyard. In this poem Isaiah taught that Israel was that vineyard that had not given the expected fruits; and like Isaiah, John the Baptist explained that the Pharisees and doctors of the law were also that vineyard that would be judged by its fruits. The Kingdom of God consists ultimately, as all the gospels taught, in the choice of a path, righteousness or sin, and that by that choice and its fruits men are judged, the preaching of John the Baptist was based on this truth.

[apocrypals]

I've been listening to your podcast lately and loving it. (I followed this blog years ago bc I knew I wanted to get around to listening to the pod & I finally did!).

ANYWAY I wanted to share - every time you talk about pharisees and the saducees I am reminded of the church camp song "I just wanna be a sheep": "I don't want to be a saducee / 'cause they're so sad you see / I just want to be a sheep *knee slap* baa baa"

Up until now that was my only frame of reference for what a saducee or pharisee was. Also when you sang "baa baa" you had to put up your hands to your head to make little sheep ears. Oh church camp.

This is a camp song I had forgotten about. Thank you (?) for the reminder

[thetruekyle]

Catholicism, is just like every other worldly -ism, except that it has been around since Jesus Christ first finished His work , and actively portends to usurp the will of God, wielding HIS power to subjugate the hearts and minds of people with RELIGION in order to seduce and entice them away from THE ONE TRUE PATH of faith and obedience .. The Way, The Truth, and The Life that is JESUS CHRIST.

Suffice it to say, JESUS conquered death and the grave and all the judaist pharisees and saducees to break the chains of worldly religiosity and point us back to HIM at every turn...

And the Vatican has since spent every day to undermine HIM, besmirching His Life, and otherwise deceiving nations in order to keep their KNOWN AND EXPOSED lies on life support, corrupting feeble and gullible minds even now by selling-on proven lies and otherwise working directly for the devil hisself to go against God in every way that matters.

. . .

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

[fardell24b]

Church notes - 6th April 2025

6th Matthew 27:11 - 31

The crewd was calling out for Jesus to be crucified.

Jesus as a threat to the Jewish elite.

We should not be a part of the crowd.

John 11:45 - 50

The Romans usually ruled lightly. The Temple priests, Pharisees and Saducees were comfortable. They didn't want a Messiah.

Matthew 26:63 - 65 Daniel 7:9 - 14 Jesus was saying that He was whom Daniel was talking about. He was there for us. He was saying that He is Divine.

John 18:29 - 32 Luke 23:1, 2 They were accusing Jesus of rebellion (which the Romans did come down hard on). He was not guilty.

Pilate went out of the way to avoid the crucifixion. But he rubbers stamped it anyway.

The crowd Over a million people were in Jerusalem for the Passover. But it was just after dawn, so hardly anyone was up. The religious leaders had organised the crowd.

How do we not drift away or misunderstand what was going on? We have to be willing to have Jesus disturb us, and the Holy Spirit in us.

[anyeot]

Jesus and the Essence

Jesus was an Essene who preached that the Jews (Pharisees and Saducees) did not worship El, the original Semitic God of the ancient Hebrews; but instead worshiped El’s son Yahweh (Satan), who deceived Moses into converting the Israelites to follow Yahweh (Satan) instead of El. This is why Jesus declared that the Pharisee and Saducee Jews were of the devil in John 8:44, saying to them: “You are of…

[beatrice-otter]

Hey, despite the fact that the New Testament gives Pharisees a bad rap, they were actually pretty cool. Jesus himself was probably a Pharisee (he sure spends a shitton of time hanging out with them and his teachings fit well within what we know of their teachings). And the reason the New Testament doesn't like them is that by the time the Gospels were written, Jews had decided that Christians were just too weird and the whole idea that Jesus was God meant that Christians were worshiping multiple gods (and Judaism says only one god). Therefore, you had to choose either Judaism or Christianity. The ones who chose Christianity were really mad at Jews because of it, and filtered everything about Jews through that lens as the Gospels were being written, turning the Pharisees and Saducees into negative caricatures.

All of which is to say, calling the Hobby Lobby people Pharisees is an insult to Pharisees. The actual Pharisees would think they were awful people, too.

That whole campaign is sponsored by the people who own Hobby Lobby. They know that their toxic brand of hateful bigotry, disguised as religious belief, is radioactively unpopular. Through their own actions, they have turned off an entire generation.

So they spend money on a misleading campaign, designed to trick people into thinking that He Gets Us is an alternative to the toxic and hateful bigotry the sponsors of He Gets Us are hoping to drive them toward.

All of that money could have done legitimate good, made a meaningful difference, and would have actually made a better case for the Canon Jesus than their deeply misleading and sinful efforts to promote Fandom Jesus.

I am not a Christian, but even I know that if the Jesus described in the gospels was a real person, and if he actually said and taught the things the Bible says he said and taught, he would be at the front of the line, decrying the He Gets Us people.

Either they don't get that, or they don't care. In either case, spending money to trick people into following you, rather than spending money to meaningfully and immediately improve people's lives (as Jesus taught, bee tee dubs) just tells everyone that these people are American Pharisees.

If Heaven exists, I would pay a dollar to see the look on their face when the bouncer tells them they aren't on the list, as a consequence of their choices.

[rinumia-blog]

SCRIPTURE READING (STORMY)

Matthew 16 vs 1-4(NIV)

1 The Pharisees and Saducees came to Jesus and tested him by asking him to show them a sign from heaven.

2 He replied, "When evening comes, you say , 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red.'

3 and in the morning, 'Today, it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast.' You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the sign of the times.

4 A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a miraculous sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah. " Jesus then left them and went away.

[unheardradical]

While plying a half ounce of merino yarn I got to having some thoughts. I have a "friend " on FB who I believe is Wiccan. Sometimes it takes effort to believe to me the planet is conscious, him with all his deities and afterlife. To the Salvationist I am a Saducee. If the planet remembers me I haven't completely died. Thinking how energy dissipates and all the different kinds of energy it would take and a way of having the energies not dissipate and not become all homogeneous in a afterlife is hard to grasp. Thinking getting older that I need to accomplish something and I have. When I was a teenager I wanted to be free and I believed being a soldier kept people free rather than just defending the economic system we live in. I finally found what freedom is. To me it is giving up all the things that control me so I can do the meaning of the law given at Sinia which is in all the "Gospels" loving The God and your neighbor as yourself. The Identity of God preached that until we murdered It. I am not free. I don't even like the conspiracy of the cooking instructions that on store bought frozen pizza. The corporation that owns the grocery store wants you to eat at the pizza joint it owns. ( I completely let a frozen pizza thaw out pre heat the oven 50 degrees less than the standard 400 and bake the pizza till the bottom crust is golden. I don't eat pizza at a pizza place. ) I am not free and I know what I must do to be free. When my chemical soup of a brain quits working I will have accomplished what I wanted to find when I was a teenager.

[thejesusmaninred]

"The Saducees." From Mark 12: 18-23.

Next we meed the Saducees, "the angry ones" who are Orthodox Jews. Now these, well these...not exactly everyone's best friends, but they did seek out Jesus for His divine counsel. As for modern Orthodox Jews, the mission is to take advantage of their Torah instruction and involve them in the future of Israel in the same manner as Jesus did the Pharisees and the Herodians.

The Torah as we have stated must be studied a few different ways and reduced to salient points. By covering these disparate sects of Judaism, Jesus is attempting to marry them all together to create a community that is as literate in the Torah as possible in all the ways it was intended.

The process is called a marriage. Marriages in Judaism include someone who is on the inside of the faith and someone who is on the outside. Two Jews cannot marry each other. One must be a Gentile for the marriage to meet the requirements God gave Onan in the Torah. The future of the Jewish people and the human race depends on it.

The Talmud however warns a bunch of sullen smelly old Jews are not going to lure to best freshest meat into the fold. It says the Jewish people need to lighten up, have fun, do it right, create a format only a fool would refuse. Freaky Fridays are not going to be enough, there must be a good deal more if the faith is to undergo a resurrection and attain to God's Glory as the Torah states.

To understand Jesus's explanation of all of this we need to examine a few keywords:

Marriage=#213, באג, a bug, ‎"pollinators". Bugs are supposed to move from field to field in order to ensure species diversity within plants.

Resurrection=#742, זד‎ב‎, zdav, "to long for a heavenly body but there is no such thing." A zedav is "a dove that is also a wolf" AKA a waste of time.

Next we need to understand sibling relationships. They are not at all the same things in ordinary English:

A man=#72, זב‎, "a drip from a spout."

A woman=#1022, יבב‎ ‎ ‎"whining", "a load, a burden, a fate."

Children=#169, ב‎וט‎, bot, "wattage" you have to put them to graze, like pigs.

The noun βοτανη (botane), meaning pasture or pasturage; the vegetation that grazers eat (Hebrews 6:7 only). This word could also be used to refer to dry fodder, or herbs for human consumption, or even plants to turn into material to make clothes. This noun is the source of our English word botany, or the study of plants. The related noun βοτανη (botane) described a pasture. Noun βοτον (boton) describes a grazer or grazing beast. Noun βοτηρ (boter), describes a "pasturer"; yet another word for herdsman. None of these latter words occur in the New Testament.

A man's brother=#487, ד‎חז‎, dhaz, "understand of what it means to be alive."

A wife= #1082, יחב‎, yachav, "loving."

A widow=#1864, יחוד‎ ‎"uniqueness, unification, setting aside." A widow gets another chance. Lucky her.

These elements are combined in the following passage from the Gospel Torah:

Marriage at the Resurrection

18 Then the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to him with a question.

19 “Teacher,” they said, “Moses wrote for us that if a man’s brother dies and leaves a wife but no children, the man must marry the widow and raise up offspring for his brother.

20 Now there were seven brothers. The first one married and died without leaving any children.

21 The second one married the widow, but he also died, leaving no child. It was the same with the third.

The verb חמם (hamam) means to be hot or warm, and that usually in the physical sense (Exodus 16:21, Haggai 1:6). Sometimes it's used to describe a non-physical heat: determination (Psalm 39:3), non-sexual excitation (Isaiah 57:5), and sexual-excitation (of animals only - Genesis 30:38).

 22 In fact, none of the seven left any children. Last of all, the woman died too. 

23 At the resurrection[c] whose wife will she be, since the seven were married to her?”

If we read Bereshit at just the literal level, the rest of the Torah is castrated, it is sterilized. The promulgation of a sterile Torah is the reason the world is experiencing tremendous difficulties. Each Day represents a specific marriage between man and specific principals associated with the founding of his superior intellect. Jesus said if we pass the days without understanding we will not live life.

Muhammad said the same thing about the study of the Quran:

So in no way did Jesus condone polygamy or polyamory or incest, but instead said the mind must be exposed gradually to a rich mixture of enlightening conceps across the course of a man's life. Each level of sophistication outmodes the rest, which explains why the Kabbalah states the widow moves on to find better and better male qualities to improve her lot.

The Values in Gematria are:

v. 18-19: The Orthodox Jews asked Jesus a question. The Number is 11020, אי‎‎ך, How, "How experienced are you? How pronounced is your state of knowledge?"

v. 20: The first one married and died. The Number is 6961, וטוא‎‎ ‎, veto, "a refusal to be bucolic or rural, to live like a cow."

v. 21: The same was true of the second and the third. The Number is 6669, wavt, "and hot."

"The verb חמם (hamam) means to be hot or warm, and that usually in the physical sense (Exodus 16:21, Haggai 1:6). Sometimes it's used to describe a non-physical heat: determination (Psalm 39:3), non-sexual excitation (Isaiah 57:5), and sexual-excitation (of animals only - Genesis 30:38)."

v. 22: Last of all the women died too. The Number is 3708, ג‎ע‎ח‎, "they were hungry."

The men were fed a literal interpretation of the Torah and the women suffered. We need to learn as much as we can all of the time or we die a slow death, sometimes a fast one:

"Hunger is a sign that one's basic necessities are not being met, and heralds the death that is inevitable if the hunger is not assuaged. Hunger often comes accompanied by διψος (dipsos), thirst, and both are characteristics of πτωχεια (ptocheia), destitution, the polar opposite of ελευθερια (eleutheria), freedom, which is the purpose of the Gospel of Christ (Galatians 5:1).

This helps to explain how Jesus could claim that he was "the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst" (John 6:35).

A life of eleutheria is a life of completion (שלום, shalom), not a life of not having to eat (Luke 24:43), but rather a life devoted to the absorption and application of an abundance of hitherto unrelated elements: a permanence at the point of intersection of a great many continuums (Revelation 21:26)."

v. 23: At the resurrection[c] whose wife will she be, since the seven were married to her?” Orthodox Jews are scared of losing their Jewish identity. Jesus and yours truly suggest there is nothing more interesting about being Jewish than to understand the ways God, the angels and the prophets colluded to create a work of brilliance that is incomparable. A literal interpretation of the Torah is not even a matchstick compared to the brilliance found the fullness of the religion when it is studied all the way. This Gospel Torah is no exception.

The Number is 6533, והגג‎‎, "Go all the way to the roof."

So far Jesus says there is a scientific, "depressed" or legal way to apply the Torah, meaning "to be imitators of God", and there are indications for more literal or literary interepretations. We will summarize all the ways Jesus explained the Torah at the end of the Gospel.

[tommychook]

THE HORRIBLE DEATH OF ANNAS AND CAIAPHAS, THE SADUCEES WHO KILLED JESUS

[thetruekyle]

If you profess and prescribe to Catholicsm... you are still going to hell. That ancuent Roman-Empirical 'church' is an abomination of modernity and has strayed as far from God as the Pharisees and Saducees (who failed to recognize and even punished the Son of Man as he stood before them in real time) did...

Only JESUS saves.

[fardell24b]

Church notes - 23rd February 2025

23rd Matthew 21:12 - 27 Jesus Declares His Authority

Authority The power or right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience. 'He had absolute authority over his subordinates.'

Jesus had entered Jerusalem as a statement.

Isaiah 53:1 - 7

2 Samuel 5:6 - 10 David conquering Jerusalem, using a water tunnel.

vs 12 - 13

It's not what you think Rather the meaning of the temple had been corrupted by: Them making it A brigand's lair.

the center of resistance to Roman authority.

Instead vs 14, 15 Jesus healing the blind and lame. (Contrast, David keeping them out of Jerusalem after his conquest.)

Our pride is tied up in being right. Jesus was confronting the pride of the Pharisees and Saducees.

Jesus was:

Looking for fruit -- In the Temple -- On the fig tree

The Fig Tree A metaphor

for the Pharisees and Saducees lacking fruit.

The mountain

The Temple was built on a mountain

There is something better.

Think on the Messiah King and His authority.

Where does He need to find fruit?

In us

What would it look like to… … stop treating Jesus as simply a role model and start serving Him as our sovereign King? To deny ourselves, take up our cross, and make serving Jesus our highest priority? Then We wouldn't be content with just blending into the world around us. We would like as loyal subjects of a heavenly kingdom, giving our lives in service to Christ our King.

Colossians 1:10