#Reflect!Flowey

[wickjump]

praying for the day people realize asriel saying "chara wasnt really the greatest person" is more in reference to his idolization of them and him finally admitting that he doesnt have to follow them blindly anymore, because even after they died, their beliefs still stuck with him. and not "yeah chara, my dead sibling (who is like 11 years old) that i miss a lot and clearly care for immensely despite everything? evil. i am explicitly saying that they are evil. and they only wanted to kill the dreemurrs and also everyone else. did you get that down? write that down. they are evil forever."

becajuse... chara is not evil... chara isnt even a bad person... asriel doesnt say they are a bad person!!!!! he says they "werent the greatest". guys im begging you to realize this.chara was a kid!!! who literally killed themselves because they wanted to free monsterkind!!!! come on!!!! it’s 2024 I thought we were past seeing people say chara is canonically evil and terrible and grrrrrr

[brewingcoffi]

Never have I ever made a paragraph so fast to write about an Au of Clover living without their soul, Flowey having to be Clovers support, Clover being to forced to drink caffeine and energy drinks 24/7 to function, and Frisk meeting another human who looks so dead and seems to be on life support with energy drinks.

Welcome to my Undertale: Yellow ‘Revived!Clover’ AU

Where your now crippled Cowboy is forced to drink caffeine and energy drinks to function properly, while having no soul whatsoever.

[dork-a-doodle]

Cringe is dead and I’m redesigning my old UT/DR OC/Self-Insert: Echo (she/they)

Info dump about them below the cut!

So I originally made them in the wake of Deltarune’s release, when the whole “we, the players, are possessing Kris 😱” thing was very fresh and the whole Undertale Multiverse was still going strong. So naturally they started out as basically a self insert, the version of me that played Undertale and later Deltarune.

So a quick rundown of their lore (btw I make no apologies for the Mary Sue aspects of this):

They originally controlled Frisk, doing several different Runs, endlessly curious about the world

At the end of their most recent True Pacifist they find their way back in the True Lab and into a part of it they hadn’t seen before

While exploring they accidentally activated a machine from before Alphys’s time and get Gastered

…kind of

Instead of being fully “shattered across space and time” they’re just… slightly fractured across space and time

Tbh I like to think of it like they got hurled full force at the 4th wall and got stuck in it like jello

Not really breaking the 4th wall so much as jiggling it aggressively and gaining an new kind of perspective

This had some interesting consequences, including (but not limited to):

separating from Frisk (who runs out of the Lab in fear) and gaining a physical form of their own

the ability to slip into different universes at a whim

the inability to talk normally, now effectively “speaking” in text box noises (lmao get Animal Crossing-ed idiot) and thus can’t be understood by most people (with a few exceptions)

the ability to posses objects and other people (which they do feel the need to sometimes as their true form is off putting to most, though they try not to possess people if they can help it)

others probably? haven’t quite figured that out yet

Which these newfound abilities, they decide to explore the multiverse and see all the interesting things it has to offer

But first, they decide they want a traveling companion, so they don’t get lonely

And they know the perfect candidate, someone who understands what it’s like to have unfathomable power and the want to explore all possibilities with that power for your own entertainment and curiosity’s sake

Someone who really doesn’t have anything left to seek in this world

And damn it if Flowey isn’t very interested in that offer

This arrangement is a strangely balanced symbiosis

For Flowey:

traveling the multiverse gives him a kind of clean slate he could never achieve on his own, especially with the loss of his reset powers

the multiverse is also very interesting and fun to explore

they know what he’s been through and what kind of a person that’s made him better than anyone else. they understand it, and they know to judge him for it would be hypocritical

For Echo:

so long as Flowey is attached to them in some capacity he can understand their strange “speech” and frequently acts as a translator (they are also learning sign language to ease that burden)

he’s far more experienced in battle and frequently acts as protection in more aggressive universes

re: the point about mutual understanding

Flowey is also unable to absorb their soul, which means his power over them is limited and if he crosses a line they’re fully able to ditch is ass in any universe they want

It’s notable that while Echo’s curiosity can occasionally override their morality, they’re still more inclined to chose the kinder option

I consider them to be chaotic neutral, leaning towards chaotic good

(I also personally see Flowey as somewhere between true neutral and chaotic neutral, occasionally slipping into chaotic evil. What can I say, he’s a nuanced guy)

Anyway, they travel the multiverse together, experiencing new things, seeing interesting sights, causing chaos

Eventually they find themselves in the Deltarune side of the multiverse

The universe they end up in is one where the entity possessing Kris is an incredibly malevolent one

Or I should say, the entity that was supposed to be possessing Kris

As Echo senses the Bad Vibes approaching this random human child, they say “absolutely the fuck not” and possess Kris themself to block the entity

This does mean they have to drop Flowey to do this, so he’s just kinda in the background for the time being

From there it’s basically just Chapter 1 until the point when Kris rips out the soul and goes to eat some pie

While they’re distracted, Flowey climbs in and breaks open the cage so Echo can unpossess the soul and leave now that the malicious entity is gone

They do decide to stick around and check out these Dark Worlds

Luckily for them, while they were busy dealing with the classroom Dark World, Flowey took the time to explore the town and found this perfectly good empty vessel that someone seems to have discarded

Deciding not to question it, they possess the vessel and wait for a new Dark World to open so they can explore it together

And that’s the basics of their story (or as much of it as I have ironed out lol). Hopefully this hyperfixation stays with me cuz I’d love to explore their character a lot more 😁

[bread-that-draws]

Feels a lil stuck up to call myself a "big undertale account" but plenty did reblog my version where I just added a sc of your tags and say that you're based 👍😭 stay based forever op!!

Omg bitches love me for my insane ramblings and my tags that I send out into the world without a second thought like a baby bird

EDIT I DECIDED TO CHECK YOUR ACCOUNT BEFORE POSTING THIS AND LITERALLY JUST NOTICED YOUVE MADE SOME OF MY FAVORITE UT FANART WTF thank you big Undertale account keep making me cry

[n4rval]

you guys will not fucking believe this

[acerikus]

Thinking about susie telling kris their family is weird in chapter 4 in the diner. we know for sure we're gonna get more of her interacting w Toriel in chapter 3, but Susie didn't say their MOM was weird.

*sideyes the latest newsletter* chapter 4 progress updates. asgore inclusion finally. stuff from his flower shop. FLOWEY.

CHAPTER 4 FLOWER SHOP DARK WORLD IM BEGGING...

I'm also still standing by the idea that we'll meet Asriel before chapter 7. Toriel says in chapter 1 that Asriel will visit 'next week', not IN a week. And in chapter 2 we seem to be reaching the weekend...

AND IF ASRIEL DOES VISIT SOONER... PAPYRUS SOONER TOO. SANS SAID WE SHOULD PROBABLY SEE HIM WHEN KRIS' BROTHER COMES HOME.

[in3rdy]

[madnesstaleofficial]

🎉♥Happy 8th anniversary Undertale✨🎊

Today marks 8 years since this gem of the video games came to light and to celebrate I did something special with my au.You already know Madfri,Charness,Flowey and Kris but taking advantage of this I wanted to introduce Madness!Temmie (Tami) along the way to present her,by the way I want to share something that I had in me for a long time even before starting Madnesstale definitively.

⚠Warning:This is gonna be long and also talks about things i didn't share with anyone until now so i don't know i someone its gonna be offended.If you wanna give your opinion in the comments please do it with respect.With that say here we go.

I found Undertale in 2016 when I was 12 years old,at that time I wanted to dedicate myself to drawing but I was going through a difficult time and my depression was beginning to arise,giving me a large series of problems along with a lot of regrets that haunt me to this day.Thanks to the game,its community and its aus I began to feel better and I was able to get inspired again to do my projects and in this way help others or inspire them.

With all this,I also had the intention of making my own au and in that way contributing to the community,but the problem is that no matter what concept or name I gave it,they were all already taken.It wasn't until August 2020 that I decided to take it up again,I didn't have Internet at that time and I was bored wandering in my thoughts and looking at the gallery on my phone until I saw several images of series and video games and a fanart of Frisk in Wonderland that everything began to form and that was when everything was decided.

I started slowly since I had no experience drawing monsters,so I decided to go with the humans first and tried to make the plot of the history,what to do with each character,if include Deltarune,etc.Thanks to the fact that I took the end of 2021 and more than half of 2022 on sabbatical before going to college It helped me not only work on the au,but also on my other projects and I also looked for inspiration in youtubers,video games of all kinds,series,cartoons,anime and more to have more ideas,I even went back to watch the first season of Underverse and finally see the story of Xtale for it,both incredible projects of course...But when I saw the first episodes of the second season of Underverse everything took an unexpected turn for me.

At first I was excited,I hadn't started watching it until they released the first part of episode 0.7,everything was going well until I saw episode 0.6,to avoid spoilers for those who haven't seen it I'll say a little about what happens.From the events of the first season of the series,Cross arrives in the Omega Timeline,a place created by Core! Frisk and habitants of Aus that no longer exist or from genocide routes who only want to live in peace,the residents of all aus from the multiverse are temporarily there (Except the original universe)because their homes were destroyed by Error!Sans and they wouldn't come back to them until further notice.During the episode Cross is angry about the current situation happening apart related with his au and being in the omega timeline even though he told Core that he would go for his friends to the point that he pushes to Dream who only wants to help him and he is already hurt,he decides to give up and falls into a deep negativity which brings many problems,but it helps him remember the purpose for which he fights, redeem himself from his mistakes and accept Dream's help.You can see it is a great evolution in Cross as a character but now comes the question¿What is my problem with this episode?¡None!The truth is this is one of my favorite episodes of the series so far since you can see the work and quality that Jakei puts in their projects as well as the large number of aus that the Undertale community has created, but this is what happens.

When I watched the episode you would think that I was very happy and excited like everyone else and I was,but after see it I started to feel angry with Core for the way she acted that seemed indifferent to everything and everyone's attitude towards Cross that later they acted as if nothing happened between him and Dream and decided to support them later during the battle of the episode so he could win,so I ended up relating it to hypocrisy and feeling bad for Cross along with great anger and frustration.But some time later after I calmed down,I decided to watch the episode again and I realized that I made a big mistake and came to conclusions without thinking beforehand.Although Core seems indifferent and doesn't care about others unless it's for her convenience,she really does and in Part of it can be reflected in his attitude towards Cross when he expresses concern for him as well as for others and it is true that everyone reacted badly because Cross pushed Dream and his hostility,but it was nothing else because of that,they did not blame him for what happened to their worlds since Error was who did that and in the fight he decided to redeem himself and trust Dream and when everyone tries to help them they generate positive feelings and during this it is seen in the dialogues that they are supporting Dream but also Cross as I think they realized he tried to redeem himself and that's why they supported him.

Thanks to this I was able to reflect and realize that the anger I felt was not because of the episode but because I didn't feel capable of achieving with Madnesstale or my other projects the same as the rest of the creators of aus or Jakei herself and not becoming part of something like this and started feeling powerless and useless,but along with that I could see that I identified with Cross in many aspects since I also have many regrets and I want to redeem myself from them and improve as a person.Despite to all this bad experience that I created and that keeps coming and going even until now,I remind myself that I should not let it affect me and remember again and again that I managed to realize that I was wrong and see the positive as that I am already contributing little by little with the community.Even over the years I still love Undertale and what this wonderful community has created that continues strong despite the years and that has served as a great source of inspiration for what I want to do in the future.

If you have read this far, thank you very much for taking the time to read my story, relief and analysis.The truth is that I have not told anyone about this since I have no one to talk to about these types of things and even if I told someone online It could seem uncomfortable and I want to avoid having problems of any kind due to bad experiences in the past.I also cried writing all this and honestly i feel better with everything and myself.Even if no one see this or don't care,especially because this account is recent and doesn't have so much followers,i'm glad to vent out about this and keep going with my goals.

With that said Happy Anniversary Undertale and tha still receiving more love ahead in the future. ♥

[sunshinetrinket]

waitt i'm in the true lab it;s knda of scary in here and WHY IS IT SAD AGAIN

[falinscloaca]

the winged lion might not come from a story that’s *textually* meta but he is a bit of a floweyesque figure if you think about it

[akanemnon]

Oh my god. I reread the comic after the last update, and THE SIGNS WERE THERE THE WHOLE TIME-

He snuck through while everyone was distracted with the fire. (See: Chaos Arc. Reread it, it was a perfect opening.)

"Runs in the family", huh, Susie...

Because he's from the other Light World/Undertale universe.

Yeah. Yeah, that sounds accurate.

Putting his parents on trial/asking for them as sacrifices as a sort of revenge for making the last of his safe place (his family) crumble

The tally marks that could be counting anything, from resets to attempts at a certain outcome to a way of trying to keep track of something real,

the twisted reflections that stare into your SOUL (or lack thereof) and remind you of your sins,

the fakeout flower creature that is obviously a representation of how he sees himself?? A disgusting, monstrous, empty beast whose only purpose is to lash out and hurt??

OF COURSE HE HAS ONE OF THOSE, HE HATES HIMSELF AND REMINDS HIMSELF OF IT ALL THE TIME

And as the cherry on top, the DETERMINATION ties in. He has enough to take back the SAVE files in the player's absence, of course he has enough to make a Dark Fountain.

Yeah, they're f(un)ked

Thank you for attending my Flowey-based TEDtalk, let's get this guy some self-esteem

Have I already said that I like it when people pay attention? Because I do!

[brewingcoffi]

The urge to straight up write a fanfic about Flowey and Revived!Clover shenanigans …

I Flowey and Clover to be besties again.. 😕

[floweycidal]

hi yes, do me a favor and count up how many zeroes come after the decimal.

Yeah.

YEAH. NINE ZEROES.

guys... GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

flowey, in his final form, was an extension—a being born from the idea that true strength lay in numbers. that power came from reaching that unattainable summit, the highest peak, where nobody could control or get to him. he even aimed infinity itself.

but that's where the irony lies, isn't it?

here frisk was. standing tall, defiantly clinging to life at 0.0000000001 HP.

nine ZEROES. a number so close to nothingness, it’s barely there at all.

a number so brittle, it should mean the end.

on the precipice of defeat. for anyone else, this would be a definitive game over.

but for frisk... it was somehow enough.

that very fragility, that brush with oblivion, granted frisk a strength flowey could never understand. those nine zeroes were survival distilled down to its purest form.

asriel seethes. how the hell are they still standing? how do they keep going when everything—logic, the numbers—screams that they should be gone? dead! he should be winning!

he hurls everything at them. all his hurt, all his rage, every ounce of power he’s amassed. and still, they remain.

frisk doesn't fight back. they don’t retaliate, don’t strive to overpower him. not because they’re invincible, but because they don’t need to be.

what good is being on top if you’re alone? what does it matter if you have power if it doesn’t fill the emptiness inside?

frisk reflects all the parts of himself he’s buried, the fragments he’s tried so desperately to forget.

remember when you didn’t need to chase the biggest numbers?

when you didn’t keep count of moments, no matter how they made you feel?

when every laugh felt like it would last, and there was something beautiful in just being, even as everything quietly passed by?

AUUUBGHHHH THE NUMBER NINE YOU GUYS!!!! 9!!!! ALWAYS AT THE SCENE OF THE CRIME!! TOBY YOU ABSOLUTE MADMAN

[bread-that-draws]

Flowey’s so funny and has me so fucked up like he’s a talking flower. He tries to kill you upon your first interaction. He is ten years old. He is damaged beyond repair. He’s a flower named Flowey. He’s become friends with every single character. He’s killed all of them countless times. He knows everything about everyone. He doesn’t care anymore. He takes care of his mom when she can’t take care of herself. He’s killed her before. He doesn’t care if you kill her. He thinks she’s trying to replace him. He just wants to be himself again. He wants to destroy everything. He hates you. You’re the only one who understands him. He wants his best friend back. He’s terrified of them. He believes in kill or be killed because he died by giving mercy to the wrong person. He believes himself to be the wrong person. He doesn’t understand when you show him that kindness he showed others, even when you know he could kill you for it. He’s tried every route. He asks you if you have anything better to do when you try to do the same. He’s a direct reflection of the player. He’s a fucking talking flower named flowey and his only voice line is by Ronald McDonald and his officially licensed plush does a little dance for you

[the-great-papyru]

Why does omega Flowey have a TV face…

metaphor for how he doesn’t have his own identity so he has to put on a show for everyone else.

mechanical parts got mixed in when alphys gave him dt, so he’s part machine and that’s incorporated into his design.

reflection of trauma he has related to tvs (watched a scary show?????)

flowey is an ipad kid (according to dog-eater)

looks cool.

take your pick!

[corpupine]

I've been doing a lot of thinking...and I feel like I need to scream this out somehow even though I'm sure it's been talked about before (and I'm putting it under a readmore because it gets long).

No matter what, in any playthrough you do and any timeline you create.

UNDERTALE is a game about guilt.

You have Toriel, so guiltridden she couldn't protect her own children that she devotes herself to never letting another child leave again. And then they do!! over and over again, that guilt compounds until it's the center of her life and every choice she makes!!

And obviously Asgore, so guiltridden that he couldn't protect his own children from humans that he spends the rest of his days trying to get out and get revenge on them--as if that will stop the voices in his head saying, if you had been out there with them you could have stopped it, you could have stopped those humans from killing your children, and maybe he could have!! Or maybe not!! He'll never know and it eats him from the inside out!

Alphys, oh my sweet summer child this fandom does not deserve you!! Alphys, so guiltridden from her own perceived failures as a scientist that she began to try anything, anything to make the King happy, and it seemed to be working at first, and then it was so everlastingly worse, how can you cause something worse than death?? without even trying??

And it shows up in little ways, silly ways, too! Ways you wouldn't even think about as guilt! Undyne! She feels guilty that she won't let Papyrus join the Royal Guard so she gives him cooking lessons instead! Papyrus feels guilty that he's not in love with you after one date so he'll "keep being your cool friend and act like this never happened!"

SANS MY BOI don't even get me started. His guilt isn't as physically obvious but he made a promise to toriel, he promised her he would keep the human safe, and in timelines where you save everyone he follows you pretty much all throughout the Underground (even if he doesn't do anything to help smh) because he'd feel guilty not doing it, and in timelines where you kill everyone he feels guilty for not stopping you, AND in those SAME timelines he feels guilty for stopping you because it means he's breaking his promise to Toriel to keep you safe I!!! This boy can fit so much cosmic guilt in him!!!!

Asriel! FLOWEY!! Do you ever wonder if he feels guilty about being the one to wake up again? The one to survive, when Chara had to die twice?? He sits at their grave and he will do anything, anything to drown out those thoughts so he befriends and kills and torments and it's all the same and it's all useless!!

And their guilt compounds each others'! Toriel makes Sans make that promise because of her own guilt, which increases his! Asgore's guilt is what pushes Alphys so far past the limits of ethical science, because he increases hers!

And all of this, all of this, ALL OF THIS pales in comparison to you!!!

You!! The player! You return to the Underground after maybe accidentally killing Toriel or a few others because you didn't know, you never wanted to hurt them!! You listen to Flowey and you come back and you save them all!

You! The player!!! You cry at the ending and you'd feel guilty, so guilty about letting them all go, wouldn't you? So you ignore Flowey's pleas to let it alone, and you come back again, you say hello to your dear friends but this time it isn't the same, this time you kill them all because you want to see everything this game has to offer, might as well get your money's worth, the fights are cool, right?? And then you get hit with the most unsatisfying atomic bomb of an ending and the only thing left is your own reflection staring back at you from the black screen of your computer as the horror dawns, what have you done???

YOU!!! The player! You go back again even though there is no Flowey left to tell you to, and you save them all again because I'm sorry, I'm so so sorry, nobody deserves what I did to all of you, and it's all good, nobody remembers, and then you get to the end. The game knows what you did!!! It never forgot, and it'll make certain you never forget either!! Guilt!! Guilt, guilt!!! It's baked into the code of this game!!

Anyways tl;dr, maybe it actually did make sense to give this game to the pope