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i keep forgetting logan is like a whole character (supposedly🙄) in the saw franchise (kinda)
i see posts about him and i wholeheartedly go who the fuck is logan
n then i remember
n then forget again bc thats how not memorable he is HAHA
#sorry jigsaw movie lovers but that movie is kinda ass😭#am i still mad they reconned him to be the FIRST apprentice ? yeah lmao thats stupid wdym u built the RBT bro HAHA#jigsaw#logan nelson#but if they inteoduced him in jigsaw its very likely he will come back because no one really has a one movie apperance in saw#i love saw fanart but logan is just such an average looking man its kinda hard to distinguish lmaoo#saw#ALSO ‘game over’ for the end of every 1-7 movie but now its ‘i speak for the dead’ MAN STFU AHAHAHA
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A collection of Amanda Young’s outfits (PT 1)
As the title states, this is just all the outfits I can source from Amanda Young from the franchise but also any game adaptation too. This will be broken into parts because of the image limit.
1.) The Reverse Bear Trap (RBT) outfit
One of her most iconic and recognisable fits. She has a purple tank top with matching sleeves to go alongside, presumably kept in place by the pink bands on her upper arms? Amanda in this wears a black skirt with ripped fish nets and kinda shiny boots- Other things include the eye makeup, nail polish and the only time we ever see her have the clawing panther tattoo on her shoulder.
2.) Rockstar outfit
I've generalised this as the ROCKSTAR outfit- Because this specific shirt comes up a few times, not just in that cut scene. It seems there is actually two shirts? The blue graphic one on top and a grey one underneath. Amanda's hair and jackets change! There is the light grey jacket and then the black one and even things like how heavy her makeup is are different... The main place we see this look is when she is setting up Adam for his game. Of course she has boots on as always and I guess I'd call the jeans she has on cuffed? One extra is she has a watch on.
3.) Junkie outfit
BECAUSE I WAS A FUCKING JUNKIE!!! Anyway, with this I had to brighten the image to see what the design on the tank top was... From there I went, ''I think I've seen this before...'' And yeah, I had- Shawnee Smith has worn this logo a few times, so that's why I've added the last two images for a clearer reference. Amanda here looks quite gaunt and sickly and we can't see the rest of this outfit such as trousers.
4.) Visitor outfit
I'll dub this the Visitor outfit because of the badge of course- I would say this likely is Amanda's most simple outfit? Black shirt and skirt. The most striking thing about this look is the RBT scars she has... It's also one of the only times outside of Saw 3 we see Amanda with a ponytail! I can't lie when looking at her hair here, it almost looks two toned in places such as the side burns? Almost grey in parts? (Edit: This may be a dress actually.)
5.) The Red Pig outfit
This is my personal favourite when it comes to her in movie pig looks. She has a red coat/cloak which the length goes all the way down to her boots- Looking there I think the lower half from seeing the cuffed like jeans is probably the exact same as her Rockstar outfit. Her eye makeup is heavily smudged and the mask itself in my opinion is one of the best shaped pig masks, with what seems to be ''blood'' coming out of the eye sockets and black slash brunette hair.
6.) Bow Dress/Clinic outfit
This scene and the follow up is so depressing but she's so cutesy here- It's a simple black dress, but the bow is very Amanda. I have no clue whether the shoes she has on in the first image are actually apart of the outfit or just something Shawnee had on whilst testing it out. 7.) News Report/Scott Tibbs outfit
May be my overall favourite Amanda outfit.... She has on a grey hoodie jacket, possibly another article of clothing from her Rockstar outfit? Her iconic skull sweatpants with a belt and then boots that I would say are more akin to her RBT outfit. I can't really tell if the shirt she has got on is layers or just has different materials- Amanda's RBT scars are also very visible in this look.
8.) Suffocation outfit
At first I started doing these as two separate outfits? One for when she kills Adam, the other for when she wakes up from her nightmare- However, I'm pretty sure this is the same outfit through and through. Amanda has on a long sleeved orange shirt with a grey tanktop over it. The jacket is leather with noticeable silver studs and she has on cargo type trousers and as always... Boots.
9.) Nightmare outfit
Another personal favourite! Once again we get to see the skull pants and this is how I was able to gage the material a bit better. I honestly have no clue how to describe the specific items of clothing she has on her upper half? A corset type shirt going on? Details I enjoy are the safety pins around the shoulder and bottom half and she has a watch on.
10.) Saw X outfit
I decided to not have this pig look separate. Anyway! This is Amanda's most recent outfit with Saw X having come out in 2023.... Simple grey t-shirt alongside cargo trousers with a belt. The boots she's got on are very combat/work like and Amanda also has a black choker and earrings here- Her coat/cloak is black with red detailing such as the cuffs and the inner lining.
#amanda young#amanda young outfits#shawnee smith#saw#saw 2004#saw 2#saw 3#saw x#saw franchise#saw movies#sawposting
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Saw VI drops a lot of hints that Hoffman isn't really in the know about why the subjects in the main game were chosen. He has to ask Jill who these people are, and there are a lot of scenes of him staring thoughtfully at the pictures he sets up around his control room, as if he's trying to piece something together.
So, basically, what I'm wondering is, did Hoffman not know about the Pamela Jenkins and William Easton twist? Did John really want Hoffman's possible last thoughts before being tested (or possibly executed, depending on how you interpret the RBT 2.0) to be about how he just facilitated the murder of a brother in front of his sister?
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Game over
Ok but listen:
Hoffman saw John testing his most loyal apprentice for the second time. His shotgun chair was barely a test but a way for the sick man to restrain Mark while explaining how John is going to blackmail him into being an apprentice.
Amanda kept asking when's his test.
He gets the tape message that he'll be tested from John himself. After that it's been 3 months and then Jill surprises him when he's super busy with the zoo trial and FBI investigation.
Besides, Hoffman lived in the refurbished nerve gas house for some time between October 2005 and July 2006 ABOVE THE BATHROOM. And he has been in the bathroom and knew about it since Saw X for sure. He built his glass coffin trap like in the next room in the tunnels.
And after burning FBI agents and Jill's RBT he was in hiding for 8 months, using different Jigsaw's workshops and houses, I'm sure.
I don't believe Hoffman was stupid or arrogant enough to not to prepare in any way, especially knowing how Kramer's mind works. Why wouldn't he hide some lockpicks and tools in different corners of some SPECIAL places? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
#the thinnest invisible scratch is enough#parts that no one would touch or use for another trap unlike pipes or sinks...#there should have been more panels but i can't do it ;)#by now i started to like the version that he's in prison more actually#mark hoffman#sawtober#saw#my art
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hello, mark. instead of working on new games like i told you to, you chose to visit a bdsm dungeon. let's see how your experience with cbt helps you when trying to escape rbt affixed to your head. live or die, mark. make your choice
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Tag Game!
Post four characters that make you go, "My man, My man, My man..."
tagged by @princess-hope-selfships!
It's gotta be RBT and Adam at the moment~
hehehehe I love them soooo much my fucked up tragic men 💖💖💖
tagging (no pressure of course, and feel free to adjust based on your gender preference as well!)!!!!
@kylilah @comfortingstars @heatobrienswife @mahitosoulmate
@hibiscus-ships @one-winged-dreams
#rich bitch trio#laid bare before you#unique skill: beating heart#wendy x ainosuke#FCK I still need a ship tag augh fkdjahfdjsak#opulence amongst monoliths#my special guys#unmasked yet loved
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Illness be damned, I finished my boy!
I present to you: Rigamarole, my Saw-based sona! Funny hellhound boy.
@dragofelid tagging you bc you said you wanted to see him!
Below the read more is a list of every reference contained in his design:
Unclothed version:
-multiple spirals present, particularly his horns, eyes, stomach marking, and shiba-like tail [his horns in particular are supposed to be a stand-in for Billy's cheek spirals]
-white face like Billy, but I didn't want to go with a full white head, so it's just his face
-scars on his mouth replicating the scar Hoffman gained from the RBT, but mirrored because I dislike asymmetry, and smaller because I didn't wanna copy the scar exactly
-rounded marking on his throat representing Strahm's tracheostomy
-ability to switch to pig hooves because...well, pigs are all over the franchise
-while his top scars are mostly...well, top scars, they're also supposed to be an ever so slight reference to The Brazen Pig [in the sense of Bobby gaining scars from it], which is my absolutely least favorite trap in the whole series lol
Clothed version:
-robe is directly taken from the robe worn when victims are kidnapped
-collar references any time a collar is used in the franchise
-the default charm on the collar is of course the failure puzzle piece, but it can be swapped out to any sort of charm to reference anything in the series not depicted on the design [or maybe I can just double up on something already depicted lol]
-leg chain is both a reference to the bathroom from one, and Pound Of Flesh from 6! The chain itself being attached on the foot is of course the part referencing the bathroom, and the meat cleaver references the one Simone cut her arm off with
Alongside these, his name is a reference to the rigamarole that is setting up the games! And as a silly bonus, his nickname is close to Rigg!
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Wednesday Tag Game
AYO! The time I get tagged in a Tag Game and I'm actually on my PC to reply! Lol Thanks @mickeysgaymom Sorry I've been away a lot; I've recently changed career paths and am becoming an RBT ( Registered Behavioral Technician ) I am still here and usually mean to respond to these.....and then I forget! lol
Name: Ryan
Your time zone: USA EST
Favorite food: Cheese cake or Korean food
Your eye color: Dark Brown
Do you have curly, wavy, or straight hair?: Straight and flat as a pin
Coffee or tea?: Tea and lets make it Chai
You can only listen to one album for the rest of your life. Which album is it?: The Killers Hot Fuzz
How many countries have you visited?: 2 USA and Canada
Favorite social media platform (other than tumblr): Discord my love.
If you had to be reincarnated as an animal, what animal would you want to be? : A turtle or Frog
Relationship status: Single but dating?
Did you go to college? if so, what did you study?: Yes Originally went for Culinary Arts, Then got my Childhood Development Associates.
You’ve just made a letterboxd account. what are your top 4 films?: I have no idea what the fuck that is......but my top 4 films are 1. Lord of the rings: The Two Towers 2. Air Force One 1997 3. Battle Los Angeles 2011 4. Lone Survivor
What’s one of your pet peeves?: Disrespect, Being on your phone while talking at dinner.
What’s one of your guilty pleasures?: Roleplay
And finally, if you could learn any skill, what skill would you want to learn?: Violin If your interested; Please do! If not have a good day!~ Tagging: @forgettwble, @callivich, @whoevrwhatevr, @bawlbrayker, @such-a-barbarian, @transfagwhore, @tv-obssessions , @m4ndysk4nkovich ,
#ryantryinx#little drabble#a bit about me#tagged#tag game wednesday#Please do if you want#miss you all
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JIGSAW REWATCH THOUGHTS (SPOILERS):
-Yeah, with the whole collar and chain thing, I agree with outsider perspective: Why ISN’T there more bondage-y Saw fic?
-Logan getting dragged all unconscious in the first trap is kinda funny. You mean to tell me this man is an apprentice?
-Shoulda known about the time jump spoiler with the big smoky eye Carly was rockin’.
-You can just tell how thrilled Eleanor is to be working on a Jigsaw case in the lab before her reveal as a big fan… Like girl I see you. You can’t hide sawtism.
-Game participants will really do anything but work together and think (thinking about the part with Carly and the syringes).
-While a modern Saw film looks weird, the attire in this film is very Supernatural/CW/tumblr girl, which fits for the time period (the flashbacks to the game anyway).
-This is so escape room. Like, what if John Kramer just designed escape rooms instead?
-You’d think with John Kramer’s record he’d trap MORE people for infanticide.
-I know people say Eleanor would’ve been a better apprentice than Logan, but what if they both were? Her assisting Logan on traps n shit sounds like a buddy comedy.
-I wonder if while Halloran and his force were investigating the “copycat” activity if they remembered what all had happened with Hoffman and thought to be suspicious of other cops on the force?
-Dude, the flatscreen TV in the silo just doesn’t hit right.
-Okay, why do I wanna write Eleanor x Halloran fic? I think she should [redacted] him.
-“Do you wanna move to Cleveland?” Logan, you’re so real for that. I can’t Ohio.
-So like… who was casually tossing the sharp objects in the silo trap? Was that just John? Idk but that’s hilarious to me for some reason.
-I wonder if Eleanor took the job in Jersey instead of Ohio in hopes of getting involved with a copycat or something?
-Logan admiring Eleanor’s RBT and her having no idea he’s an apprentice. So much 🤌 here. (Also, she has the water cube! Yay!)
-I bet Eleanor lounges around her studio while wearing the RBT and lingerie or something. Fucking freak. I adore her.
-OKAY BUT WHERE IS JOHN’S CORPSE THOUGH?
-Girl got that Dr. Gordon hacksaw on an altar with candles, like me too. But like, what IS Dr. Gordon up to? If only he knew he had fangirls.
-I know nobody likes Logan but like he’s an okay actor when covering up being an apprentice. I’ll throw him a bone there.
-The way Eleanor just materialized in Logan’s house with a gun lol
-John’s little jiglet pig masks are so funny to me.
-Oh yeah, forgot the whole cancer thing was all Logan’s fault lol
-Omg Anna why even have a baby????
-Okay but like what happened to Eleanor? (Can I see her in another movie please?)
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Tag Game!
tagged by the very wonderfully amazingly lovely @let-the-sun-rain-down-on-meee
A scent you love:
rain, wood fire, and vanilla
Something you're looking forward to this week:
I don’t really have anything to look forward to at the moment tbh. 😅
A book you are currently reading:
my textbooks are consuming my life. 🥲
A game you're currently playing:
I’m chipping away at Baldur’s Gate III
The most recent movie you watched:
I honestly don’t even remember, it’s been a minute since I’ve seen a movie.
A show you've been watching or listening to:
I’m not really watching anything atm, but I did just finish The Legend of Korra!
Your favorite season:
autumn or winter!
Something you've learned recently:
I’ve been learning about Applied Behavior Analysis recently, so I can become a RBT!
Have you had any water lately?
I drink nothing but water, I have like, 6-7 bottles a day, at least
Tagging: @dreamy-zzz @nek0hime13 and @icarusignited
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crimson, ruby, and scarlet for the shades of red asks? :)
[For The Shades of Red Ask Game]
Crimson: If you could have only one photo or poster on your wall, what would it be?
This is something I'd imagine would change a lot for me, but currently I'd make it either a poster of the Pikmin 2 box art, Perfect Blue, or that one Saw (2004) promo image with Mandy in the RBT.
So, respectively:
There's some very different tones happening here, but, you know. I contain multitudes.
Ruby: Favorite pre-2000s song?
Answered Here!
Scarlet: Think of your favorite genre. What kind of media in that genre do you prefer- Books, Films, or TV Series?
This question is Video Game Erasure, lmao.
Everyone who has even breathed in my general direction knows my favorite genre is Horror. I find myself watching way more Horror Movies than anything else, but I'm definitely not averse to other mediums. I've got a pretty sizable collection of Horror Video Games, a nice handful of Horror Novels, read a fuck ton of Horror Web Stories, and I've definitely watched a good amount of Horror TV Shows. I just tend to be drawn to the movies above all else. I think I've watched more horror films than... anything in my life, lol!
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Ok here’s description of every character
Blaze: is a big sister of Stacy.. she protects her while being safe around the area she will be in.. she also loves to be an baddie towards others except for helly since he is usually the only one to beat Marvin and all the villains as well she has an crush on him.. totally not anything.. I promise..
frosty: what do you do if you add helly.85 to an ice.. you get frosty.. of course he is frost type.. so he can be anything but just an overall dude who has no time to do anything only to enjoy watching YouTube videos like BFDI and BFDIA while laughing at unfunny jokes..
Notch: is an green version of the spinny shell.. this however he evolved to help others or kindly asked them if for something.. of course he can fall for traps but luckily will survived.. he’s kinda of an luck and shell to be honest..
Lizzy, Ron and Kyle: they are the triples of the Roblox’s team called “RBT” which means for “Roblox Battle Team” they are 3 leaders and they have 76 members all included.. they are pretty good team apparently
Joe: Is a worker at redwood’s studios by that I mean he is an hard worker and amazing Director for many games and movies.. he also like coffee a lot of times.. rather he brings it to the bar or at the park.. he immediately does good listening and talking to people.. they say he is a kind and loving man
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Idk here's a Pig rework concept for DBD.
Jigsaw Boxes have been increased from 5 to 9. Additionally, Jigsaw Boxes now spawn close to generators, as well as next to each exit gate.
All Reverse-Bear Traps require two Jigsaw Boxes to be completed, effectively unlocking one of two locks with each completed Jigsaw Box. (With 9 Jigsaw Boxes and 4 RBTs, it's still impossible for The Pig to camp and isolate a single Jigsaw Box to prevent completion.)
After a Jigsaw Box has been successfully completed, that Jigsaw Box can no longer be searched by other Survivors. Additionally, completed Jigsaw Boxes become "Laughers," triggering a 10-second laughing effect whenever a Survivor walks or sprints past its line of sight; an active Laugher reveals the Killer Instinct on all nearby Survivors not currently wearing a RBT, whether they're moving or not (Survivors can crouch to avoid setting off a Laugher). While crouched, The Pig sees all Laugher boxes in a yellow aura; whenever nearby an active Laugher box, The Pig gains a small, briefly-lingering Haste effect (notably effects the distance of Ambush attacks).
RBTs are immediately active upon being put on a dying Survivor, no longer requiring a generator to be activated. The timer still pauses whenever the Survivor is dying, hooked, or chased. The timer has been increased from 2:30 to 4:00.
Failing a Jigsaw Box skill check no longer triggers a loud-noise notification. Failing a skill check while healthy will injure the Survivor; failing a skill check while injured causes the Survivor to scream (does not lose progress on the Jigsaw Box) and reveal their location.
Add-ons are reworked accordingly, with changes emphasizing the new Laugher mechanic and adjusted around the increased Jigsaw Box count + extended timer.
The basic premise of this rework is to move power away from the insta-kill factor of RBTs, while retaining their urgency and putting that power instead towards The Pig's basekit. The increased amount of Jigsaw Boxes, added with the lengthened timer, means that even though the timer is immediately active upon placement, the afflicted Survivor has an easier time locating Jigsaw Boxes -- at least to begin with. As the Jigsaw Boxes become used, the options become more narrow for Survivors given an RBT late-game, and The Pig can more easily dedicate efficient patrol time to the last remaining boxes.
Additionally, with every Jigsaw Box that becomes a Laugher, The Pig has better surveillance around generators, since there's likeliness for any non-RBT'd Survivor to trigger a Laugher when simply navigating to gens. As Jigsaw Boxes transition into Laughers, the field of play becomes more stressful for Survivors, who have to play around the Laugher's reveal factor, and also have to worry about a hastened Pig chasing them off these generators. It thus becomes important for RBT'd Survivors to not merely remove their RBTs asap, but to do so in a way that doesn't apply pressure to important generators (or other important areas). This also means that if The Pig successfully gets all her RBTs onto Survivors, and those Survivors subsequently turn all Jigsaw Boxes into Laughers, then she has guaranteed at least one Laugher that will surveil an exit gate, putting her in a prime position to delay that exit from opening.
This should result in less scenarios where The Pig can successfully force a single RBT to pop by tunneling someone, and instead provide a greater reward for distributing multiple RBTs. This still keeps The Pig as a slowburn killer that requires regular M1 play most of the time, but that slowdown is then compounded with extra benefits that allow The Pig to move more effectively around the map, knowing better where Survivors are and having a Haste effect to traverse faster. The Pig thus less often feels like a Killer with no power; RBTs are more consistently threatening even in late-game scenarios, and even if all RBTs are removed, The Pig is left with fun advantages that keep the atmosphere tense for Survivors to navigate.
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Like. Oh. Ok. Elements of Root Beer Tender show up throughout the game. The RBT sign in the trash during CAX is the only example I remember but still.
Irving technically kept that promise in the worst way imaginable; Reggie would always be there, but never seen
Because you’re not supposed to focus in on a background asset in a fighting game
You’re never supposed to see anything but FPP’s arms.
Sometimes I think about FPP sharing design elements with RBT Reggie. And then I remember how Irving told Lionel that Reggie was gonna be reused. and I feel like I’m gonna throw up
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I figured out why does Saw X feel so off. It's not the filter, or John put in trap, or Amanda's haircut, or even Cecilia not dying yet.
It's the cut in post-credit scene. They made the games most personal, but every game was fair and winnable. Only Henry's doesn't feel so. Because there was a cut and we didn't hear the rules.
Hope Saw 11 explains this along with other unanswered questions, such as
- what happened to Daniel Matthews?
- who were the pigs helping Gordon get Hoffman?
- what happened to Brit? We saw Mallick survived but Brit seemed to be better off in 5.
- who was Eleanor seeing in the car?
- what games other than RBT did Logan partake in? How big was his role?
- what were the rules of Henry's game? There is a cut and they made John dirty, the trap going against everything John stands for.
- what happened to Hoffman? I assume he got out and snuffed Gordon, it fits his character.
- what happened to Rigg?
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