#People saying Cait and Maddie are evil for what they did to Vi... girl what about the supercop-ism

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People treating the shipping in Arcane more seriously than the class wars is so funny

[iminaworldofpureimagination]

Adding on I feel that people who defend Jinx or dont' think about who she killed is due to the fact that its enforcers/corrupt politians so they go with they got what they deserve but I think that ignores how like it or not those people are very much still human and you can't just go around murdering people with zero consequences bad people should get prison time but not outright murdered. And how jinx somehow becomes a syombol for zaun despite working for silco and.. causing more stress for zaun after blowing up the capital building makes little sense to me. Jinx herself didn't even want to be a symbol just wanted her family back. she's not a Hero because she kills Cops.. she's a traumatized girl who needed mental help

btwIhatecops I have very bad experiences with em. been accused of drug selling ifyacanbelivetitwascrazy. and a cop towed our car making us even more poor. . but i dont think we should murder em either or as a poor person myself with my own mental issues that killing is ever justified and it seems that some people think because jinx has trauma =murderis fine but caits trauma hurting people=evil monster when the lesson is i think .. Violence is BAD no matter if your poor/rich don't hurt people.

now Caitlyn she is treated like she Killed millions.. and that her hate of jinx is treated as a shrug cause she was born rich.. As if that makes trauma less valid..

I don't blame her for hating jinx while it was jinx being fused with shimmer that caused jinx mental state to get even worse.. caitlyn was kidnapped while NAKED.. Tied up, and saw jinx kill her mom.. all in like a DAY..

She met vi for what 2 days? got kidnapped nearly killed by her sister/ had her mom blew up by her crush sister. Im not saying its an excuse to gas zaun but how come when Jinx gasses piltover and we see it affecting kids =no criticism at all.. Jinx is a hero =cait is the villian .. But I see no heroes I just see. People.

Traumatized Woman who lost their parents in horrible ways coping in terrible ways. Only one gets treated as do no wrong/other as innocent when its not that simple.

I don't get the hate for either I like Em both I was rather disappointed they didn't go more Crazy but i dont think some of ya'll can handle Crazy woman..shame. I really thought the end of s1 was setting up Arcane Game Jinx instead we got Woobie pitful Jinx when s1 was way more interseting.. and I thought we'd see Cait doing worse and according to fandom she did do worse but i wanted more more insanity. ..

and timebome while cute wasn't needed and i thought took away from the impact of isha's death since the ep happened right after.. and that it came out of nowhere.. I don't understand people saying caitvi sex scene makes no sense they were horny for eachother since season 1.. it was bound to happen and i thought it was perfect emotions were high. Let woman act on emotions humans are emotional people.. that scene was a long time coming. and i say that as someone who didn't really ship em in s1 that moment was long overdue. Maddie was also cute to me but I love REDHEADS I felt she needed more screentime her betrayal left zero impact to me cause .. I barely knew her .. same with Vis new male friend death..

The main criticism I have is to much music video montages.. i give the season a 6/10 .. needed 2 more episodes or to skip the au ep all together and.. focus on ekko/jinx not powder/ekko for timebomb to hold better weight

but that just my opinion.. Im poor and I dont think cait had more power over vi at all.. if anything Jinx held power over Vi.. as vi felt she had to save Powder.. but for all the people saying it should have ended like elsa/ana storyline of sisterly love. while that's all fine and and dandy.. . I gotta say you're family who commits terrible actions isn't your responbility to save and the sory isn't bad because it didnt' cater to the disney storyline of happily ever after for jinx/vi some of ya'll wanted .

I think s1 is better but not because jinx/vi didn't get the happy ending just thought we wasted time on other plots more when we should have had more time with Vi outside of Jinx and noticed jinx was. a lot different that it felt like a new character in general .

.. butohwell.. its not terrible its just alright to me.

With the way people hate on caitlyn it's like she murdered bunches of people when I recall it was jinx who was killing people with zero remorse in s1 no hate to jinx but man her actions get ignored it's her fault that zaun gets targeted in since she blew up the capital

Also its sad that it's come to women vs women characters when both are good characters

[midnightcatharsis]

She has used it for months. There is nothing that indicates that she stopped or that it was a one time incident. On the other hand in the official minigame "Jinx fixes everything" that is set in arcane s2 act 2 AFTER Jinx encounters Warwick it's possible to read a fragment about how innocent Zaunites have been (present time) experiencing health problems because Piltover (Caitlyn) decided to use against them chemical weapons that were so toxic and vile even Piltover pre-Caitlyn that couldn't care less about civilians from Zaun vowed to never use it again. It is also specified that the grey "returns" (present tense) not the "grey" appeared, didn't hurt anyone and disappeared and Piltover stopped using it. The time skip between act 1 and 2 was confirmed to be several months.

And to the people who say Cait only targeted criminals all I've got to say is that this is an official art:

Clearly, it's possible to use this poisonous chemical weapon depicted above to target specific people.. which is why we see numerous houses completely engulfed in it. Clearly, all those homeless people in Zaun and all those who just have to leave their homes from time to time wouldn't be affected at all.

Lastly, whenever there's a time skip it usually indicates a certain status quo where nothing important changes. I'm not going to assume out of nowhere that somewhere off-screen during the time skip Cait changed her mind about her tactics and chemical weapons usage especially since she doesn't have a reason to. I'm also not going to assume that she slept with Maddie only one time despite the show not showing us that either, and I'm not going to assume Vi was only in the bar or fighting in the boxing matches those several times that we have seen on screen. It may have been shown explicitly only one or few times but this is to indicate what has been happening for several months. Cait had no problems with using chemical warfare on civilians in act 1 only to get Jinx. We have seen her slowly using more drastic measures. In the end, she doesn't manage to get Jinx in act 1, but there is still no conflict or recognition in her. She believed what she was doing was ok even at the end of act 1. Since Jinx was still free and Cait didn't change her mind it's only logical to conclude that Cait continued her chase using the same or even more drastic measures not that she randomly switched off screen. That would have been just bad writing. We only see her truly changing her mind about killing Jinx at all costs in act 2. Before that change act 2 shows that more and more people in Zaun side with Jinx and that they're still being actively oppressed and imprisoned by Piltover (ruled by Cait).

The fact that Jinx was a terrorist who did a lot of evil things is irrelevant. It doesn't make Cait any less guilty. The idea that "one girl from Zaun did that and that therefore it's ok for Cait to continue to use chemical weapons on the entire city" where most people are innocent is illogical.

I still think it's crazy that Caitlyn has been using chemical weapons on innocent civilians from Zaun for months fully knowing it will cause the death of hundreds or even thousands and cause dangerous diseases to others only to spread terror and catch one girl and in the end she not only got 0 repercussions but also got to play the role of a hero.... She has been doing it for a prolonged period of time she is bound to have a super high kill count.

She is like Singed only nobody is defending Singed.