#Pederasti
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I love how weird and bisexual these books get like
“yeah that woman was way more attractive when I thought she was a guy lol I kinda get the whole gay thing now”
“man what”
#I love you o’brianian pederasty discourse#I love you more each time you appear (at least thrice every book)#aubreyad
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cindy + studcoms compilation
#cindy the skull#steban the student communist#disco elysium#their dynamic is so funny to me. like as much as she ribs at them you can tell she still has a soft spot for them#and that they like her as well. or well i would say steban certainly moreso#steban also does mention getting cindy in the room regardless of whether she was mentioned earlier which i thought was nice#side note have you seen the disco elysium tvtropes page#like i found that first screenshot while looking for all the times cindy said communist#bc on her section it says that she supports communism “in spite of herself” so i was looking to see if she ever really mentioned it#in that sort of light but from what i was able to find (and from what you can see in the screenshots) she doesnt#and then it says TWICE on dros' page (among many many other things)#that he supports pederasty bc the commune legalized it#when he was calling gay people pederasts as a slur. & he uses it as a slur multiple more times in that same#conversation outside of that line#and they misspell dobreva's name as deobreva every single time its written (including in the section title)#and they listed her cause of death as being by firing squad#even though her suicide with abadanaiz is like#one of the two or three things we actually know about her#anyway i did actually create a tvtropes account because of this i hope you know that#just realized i forgot to tag ulixes#oh well
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megara had boykisser contests??? also sparta was freaky as hell
#tagamemnon#ancient greece#classics#greek history#i was researching pederasty#it has truly become my roman empire this year
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ford's worldview is straight up delulu sometimes when it comes to things he just really wants to believe and dipper is the crown prince of self-rationalizing into terrible and dangerous decisions. so i feel like both of them could easily talk themselves into like "actually a pedophilic and incestuous relationship is totally fine and good in this case, frankly it's weirder that anyone else would have a problem with it because we're so good and acceptable about this"
#dipford#let's go girls give us delusion yaaas#babe you did that pederasty so ethically you're definitely getting into heaven
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Photius, Bibliotheca excerpts, 190.33:
Dionysus was loved by Chiron, from whom he learned chants and dances, the bacchic rites and initiations. The author speaks of the "Taraxippos" of Olympus and of the Myrtilloi, father and son. Neoptolemus the Makiotes was the only one to learn from a certain Aithos, a Delphian, the oracle of Phemonoe. It is of this Aithos that Herodotus says, in the first book of his Histories: "although I know his name I will not quote him".
Excuse me, WHAT?!
#Dionysus really woke up one day and decided he's going to f that horse ass?!#Or is this a pederasty thing?!#Chariclo I'm sorry for you babe!#greek mythology#greek gods#dionysus#chiron#ramblings
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dog things
#u. SORRY........#.expect more later we had a lesson abt pederasty/greek sexuality today and. UH. several thoughts#ad fam / masters of rome#him!
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Why does everyone hold Zeus to his 'crimes' but not Achillies?
Does no one know of what he did to Trolius? (link to a post that explains it so I don't have to explain)
Or does that ruin the image of poor baby Achilles who was just in love and everyone was so mean to him 🥺🥺🥺🥺
Also why the fuck is only Zeus get this treatment? all gods have committed atrocities except maybe Hestia and if we're talking roman myth then not even Vesta is innocent (Vestal virgins i'm looking at you)
It's mythology, they're meant to reflect society and nature, literally no god (and i mean of all religions here) is wholly good and i am saying this as a pagan.
#I blame Madeline miller for people acting like Achillies is innocent#Usually my go to ancient greek fact when people gush about how 'ancient greece was a utopia for LGBT' i bring up the pederasty thing#I might change it to this if they keep talking shit about lord Apollo /j#wolffox speaks#achillies#Greek myth#Greek mythology#greek myth
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Deep Love and Connection
In ancient Greece, love was not bound by gender but by the beauty of the connection between two souls. This culture did not know our modern terms of homosexuality or heterosexuality. Rather, love was experienced as a multifaceted spectrum that could include all people.
Especially in the world of warriors, this freedom of emotional bonding was pronounced. The famous Sacred Band of Thebes consisted of pairs of men of the same age, whose mutual love was considered a source of their strength. Their bonds were not only strategic in nature but also deeply emotional. Such relationships were publicly acknowledged and respected, as they were seen as an expression of the highest virtue and harmony.
In the education of young men, pederasty was a socially recognized form of relationship between an adult man and a male youth in ancient Greece. These relationships often had an educational component and were an important part of the social structure. Peer-aged pairs were also common. It was a world where men could freely express their affection and admiration for one another without the strict labels that later emerged.
The ancient stories of Achilles and Patroclus or of Alexander the Great and Hephaistion offer examples of profound bonds between peer-aged warriors. The martial culture of ancient Greece, where strength and virtue were highly valued, provided fertile ground for the emergence of such deep emotional connections. For a warrior, the companion at his side was not just a fellow combatant in battle but also a partner in life, with whom all joys and sorrows were shared.
In our modern world, where we still struggle for acceptance, these ancient traditions remind us that love in human history has always been complex and boundless. It awakens in us the memory of a time when love was free from prejudice and definitions and celebrated for what it truly is: a deep connection between people.
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#hashtags#DeepLove#Connection#AncientGreece#SacredBandOfThebes#Pederasty#Achilles#Patroclus#AlexanderTheGreat#Hephaistion#LoveBeyondLabels#gayart#gaylove#manlovesman#muscles#washbaoardabs
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ENOUGHHHHH
#every single tag on the post is like this#‘oh I can’t believe the gay ass country hasn’t legalised yet’#as if a) Ancient Greece didn’t practise pederasty influenced by a hatred of women#and b) modern Greece isn’t extraordinarily homophobic and religious#like the way people talk about the tags they genuinely believe we still believe in Greek gods#at this point I have to wonder how many people know orthodox Christianity is overwhelmingly the main religion#and furthermore calling Greeks q*eer where any actual translations of the word is unequivocally a swear#but ofc the one using another slur is almost certainly a straight girl so what’s the fucking point#trying to celebrate lgb greeks being given the right to marry and a pathway to actual equal rights#being completely overshadowed by a heartless western perception that ignores the real suffering of Greeks#in favour of romanticised view of ancient Greeks#posts that repeak me#radly
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OHHH THE SEXUALIZATION OF THE MENTOR RELATIONSHIP. I FEEL SICK
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oh in other news i finally finished merrick btw. i don't want to talk about it.
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they had a prepubescent ephebe in the gtos.........
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Of course sociopolitically it makes perfect sense for the writers and narrative to hold Marius accountable for his Crimes but I was a little surprised they did only because since Armand is so much older in the show than in the book I figured Marius was going to take him from the brothel as a young man rather than at 14/15 and then turn him a few years later but instead they kept the initial timeline but then extended their time together when Armand is human from three years to like fifteen years (woof…)
I’m in favor of Anne occasionally rolling in her grave like I’m sure black Louis gave her a scare so I’m not saying this as critique of the show but you know her ghost is pissed that they’re calling out her man Marius like this lmao
#one unfortunate fact about Anne you have to understand is she believes in pederasty for real#she wishes she were a Roman senator#70s leftists wandered into some unfortunate opinions about the age of consent sometimes#and Anne is on record as one of those people ajsjsjsjsjs
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everybody trying to "correct" me on this comment is wrong like. on a historical level. but each attempt is wrong in a unique way so I'll allow it
#if i had to power thru reading about pederasty in a textbook written in the 70s i think u can give me some authority on it#and countless articles just for fun bc im interested in the history of gender and sexuality anyways
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im choosing not to believe the mike&andy homophobia moment because theres simply no way that in the same year they deemed what do you see in her? too gay but handsome devil passed through just fine
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Um. We just watched call me by your name 🤨
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