#POC Danny Fenton

[starry-bi-sky]

Danielle and Danyal's meeting... very, very quickly goes very sour from, basically, the moment Danny steps into his room and finds Ellie sitting on his bed (strike one) and reading the comic books Tucker introduced him to (strike two). By the time she's looked up to address him, Danny has the door locked, and a hand hovering near the knife hidden under his shirt.

She gets her third strike when Danny, in a voice that could make the mountains tremble, demands to know how she got into his room, and she lies (with uncertainty of her decision growing in her chest) that Jazz let her in. Danny's hand shifts closer to his weapon, and he turns towards her fully, and says that Jazz would never let someone he didn’t know into his room, and who was she.

(Vlad Masters had underprepared Danielle for her meeting with Danny -- not out of any completely direct malicious intent, but he failed to mention just how... 'touchy' Daniel could be -- he failed to mention the scars littering up his arms, unhidden by the hoodie tee he meets Ellie in. He failed to mention that along with those scars, that Danny was visibly lean, capable of doing very real damage without the use of his powers.)

(He tells Ellie that he’s adopted, and that he is observant and clever, but ungrateful and has a bad attitude.)

Her final strike occurs when Ellie, trying to keep her facade of cheeriness, tells him that she’s his third cousin once removed. Immediately, Danny has his dagger pulled out, and Ellie finds herself with the cold metal of a blade pressing against her throat.

Danyal 'A.G' Fenton hasn’t killed since he arrived in Amity Park. At first it was because mother told him to keep a low profile, and killing would do the opposite of that. But, he's been slowly learning from his sister and friends over the years the value of human life. So it's become a combination of keeping his head down, and also that life has value to it.

But. That doesn’t mean he can’t kill, nor is he opposed to doing it if the situation calls for it. It just means that he doesn't do it. And ‘Danielle’ is an unknown in his room, claiming to be family to him, and appearing uncannily similar to him and his family. Either someone hired her and she was trying to pass herself off as a relative to him because that someone realized Danny was the biggest threat, or, his false death has been compromised, his mother was unable to tell him, and the league was aware he was alive.

No matter how he looks at it, this Danielle was a threat to him, his sister, his friends, to Damian, and to the Drs. Fenton. Danyal Fenton doesn't kill, but he has no problems doing so.

(Ellie, pinned under Danny’s knee and the blade to her neck, is too terrified to think of phasing out of his hold. Not that it would help, he would just chase after her.)

“You have broken into my home, dared to lie to my face, and when I demanded to know the truth, you dared lie to me again." Danny's scowl could cower even Skulker, his glacier blue eyes burning. "Your continual breath has been a favor from me, that I have graciously allowed, from the moment you entered my room, dahkil."

"So I will ask one more time," he hisses, "who. are. you."

Danielle, only a few months old, unprepared for the ice storm that is "Daniel" Fenton, and his clone in only flesh and blood, and not memories, immediately breaks. And tells him that she was his clone, that Vlad sent her to come capture him, and to please not kill her.

Danny's face twists with anger, Ellie thinks he's going to kill her anyways. Instead, he withdraws his knife and gets off her, stringing out curses in Arabic as he sheathes his weapon back into its hiding place faster than Ellie can blink.

He switches to English as she is collecting her bearings (and contemplating fleeing), and Danny paces the room like a tiger in a cage. "--of course that wretched, arrogant, peacocking little ingrate would do something so infuriating. I should have driven my sword into the shrivel of his heart when I had the chance--"

Ellie, for a moment, thinks of leaving while he is distracted. And starts to slowly creep away. But Danny notices instantly, and whirls on her. His too-bright eyes bore into her head: "Where do you think you're going."

"...I'm leaving."

And Danny scoffs at her, "Why? So you can fly back to Masters and tell him that you failed to capture me, and that I know that he cloned me?" He says, and Ellie remains silent -- that's exactly what she was going to do. "He will destroy you within seconds."

Of course, Ellie rears back in offense, and she finds the footing to glare at him. "He would not! He's my dad, he loves me!"

Danny gets in her face, glowering back with an equal intensity. "He does not." He snaps, "Vlad Masters has not a soul in his body nor a heart in his chest. He would sooner cut off the hand that helps him stand, than to take it along with him."

"If you're really made of my blood, then I will teach you only this: we bow not our heads nor our hearts to anyone." Danny's too-blue eyes narrow, and his voice dips into a hiss, "Especially not to a conniving snake like Masters. Your heart: cut it off, or cut it out. He will sooner leave you to bleed."

Then, he unlocks the door and drags her out before she has much time to act. And as he drags her down the hall he shoots Sam and Tucker a text, and they meet up at Nasty Burger. Ellie is a spitfire, but Danny has her too intimidated to leave.

"This is Danielle," he tells them bluntly as he corners her into the booth, "she's my clone. Masters created her."

Ellie is with them for a week, and somehow throughout that time, Danny manages to actually get her to like him throughout that time. He's callous, blunt, and full of sharp edges that you can cut yourself on. But when he's not spitting venom, he's fretting.

When he drags her back to the house after being with Sam and Tucker, he pulls her to Jazz's room and opens the door to tell her the same thing. "This is Danielle." He says upon abruptly opening the door, interrupting Jazz's studying as he pulls Ellie inside. "She is my clone, Masters created her. She needs clothes."

Then he turns and leaves, shutting the door behind him. Ellie, in that moment, thinks that now's her chance to flee. But Jazz then squeals, and she is trapped in new arms, shaken around by Jazz Fenton, excited for a sister.

(Ellie finds herself complaining to Jazz that night, shoved into old pajamas. She's in utter disbelief that Jazz could care about a jerk like Danny.)

("He's rough around the edges, but Danny does care." Jazz tells her, combing through her hair with her fingers. "We've been working on it ever since he joined the family, but Danny warms up slowly. He's usually less stoney; I think your arrival spooked him.")

("Spooked him?" Ellie repeats, she doesn't believe it at all. "He has a funny way of showing it, he threatened to kill me!" And she turns around just in time to see Jazz's press her lips into a line.)

("He's... very protective. He'll deny if you ask him, but he worries a lot." Jazz's fingers find her hair again. "What I do know for certain though, is that he wouldn't have kept you here if he wasn't worried about you at least a little bit.")

(Ellie doubts it.)

But Ellie is indeed there for a week, and the day after her initially rocky introduction with Danny, he is a little bit kinder to her. Still kinda a bitch, but he's less harsh to her, if... almost uncomfortable around her. Flighty, kinda.

Whenever she gets mouthy at him though, he looks oddly smug about it and, infuriatingly enough, praises her attitude. He is very, very annoying. And still kinda terrifying. But hearing him shout insults via puns at someone during a ghost fight that happens that week lessens the intimidating factor,,, a little bit.

Things go about,,,, relatively,,,, similar to canon. In the sense that it ends with Ellie defecting from Vlad because she finds out that Danny was right and that Vlad didn't actually care about her. (And that Jazz had been right too; Danny, in his weird, mean way, had been worried about her as well)

Danny looks out of his depth as she talks about how he was right, and he cuts her off with a vaguely uncomfortable clearing of his throat. And gives her the most awkward, but genuine apology he can muster.

"I should've used more tact when telling you about Masters, and I... apologize for threatening you when we met. I was..." he makes a face like he's sucked on a particularly sour lemon, "worried. First about my family, and then later about you."

(Ellie will be damned: Jazz was right)

Before Ellie leaves, Danny puts a hand on her shoulder and tells her: "I wasn't kidding about what I said to you when we first met: you are of my blood, and as such, you do not bow your head nor your heart to anyone."

Ellie looks at him, thinks about the last week, and smiles like she's caught him in a trap. "What about Sam and Tucker then? And Jazz?"

Danny smiles, it's awkward and tilted, like his face isn't used to the gesture. "We bow not our hearts, but that doesn't mean we can't share."

[saeweedbrains]

reject tradition (white danny fenton) embrace modernity (desi danny fenton)

[moonsbijou]

~danny 💚👻 x valerie 🌹🔫~

[murcielagatito]

heres my fave danny phantom pieces <3

[vxmp-stains]

Drew an Adult Danny Fenton a few days ago.

been on a major danny phantom kick lately, good to see the phandom is still half alive lol

[nastyburger]

Please say more about the awful Asian designs in Danny Phantom. I'm not Asian but I'd love to have a rundown on the elements that make them offensive so I can avoid and critique those elements in other works. And also you deserve to speak your mind about it

im gonna mostly talk about southeast asian designs since thats what i am and the most familiar with and also what i feel are the show's worst transgression with their casual depictions. tw for racist imagery im gonna link pictures.

there's not much to say about the designs aside from, you know, everything but things to note are the unnatural yellow tone for the skin and closed slanted eyes. veggie burger (fan name for the bg character in the middle) also suffers from the huge nose that sometimes shows up in racist depictions. the straight edge/cut hair as well is somewhat stereotypical. this one isn't as bad but in conjunction with everything else its not ideal. i will give the smallest molecule of credit that at the very least dp never gave any of these bg characters buck teeth.

some depictions are better than others, but theres still missteps happening in one aspect or another. kwan's eyes in a lot of shots/episodes can be too skinny and even too slanted, the girl in the middle is almost perfect but her skin is too yellow (she looks kinda okay on my computer screen but i remember when watching dp on my tv she looked real brightly yellow), and principle ishiyama (who was weirdly forgotten about pretty early on in the show and was replaced by lancer doing most of the school stuff despite not being principle?? which is a whole other issue with how dp treats its poc characters) the same usual notes about the slanted eyes but also the upturned nose is pretty reminiscent of racist japanese art during ww2. again it is not the worst way to draw a nose but combined with everything else in this show's depiction of asian characters its not great, they are on thin ice man.

not to mention, principle ishiyama is the only character here with brown eyes. this is a problem that extends to all poc characters in dp and to my knowledge i think ishiyama might be the only one with them tbh. this is, again, a whole other issue though.

i think the thing that bothers me most about these designs though is that dp is very clearly aware that these depictions are bad. the only difference between the first set of characters and the second is one singular thing: they have a clear speaking role.

suddenly when theyre not stock background characters, dp knows how to act when drawing them. i cannot for the life of me find the image of it, but the last jock guy in the first set gets a speaking role in reign storm (he's cosplaying phantom) and he is drawn with proper open eyes! (theyre also blue but whatever) it just makes me sad that this was a clear choice they made.

the show also went in a different direction in the final product, but early development stuff was really drawing from a lot of japanese/asian influences like danny was originally gonna have a motorcycle (pulling from ghost in the shell) and was even referenced in the show via the akira motorcycle reference (which i once again, for the life of me, cannot find. danny took johnny 13's motorcycle and did the classic akira slide i think it was in million dollar ghost?? idk whichever one where the giw are trying to blow up the ghost zone). danny's name was originally gonna be jackie, named after jackie chan, this i assume was given to jack fenton afterwards. and i think the show having a more martial arts direction with the action was also gonna be a thing? that one could be wrong dont quote me on that, there was an episode where danny and vlad have like a weird ninja fight though im pretty sure.

either way my point here is that they wanted to pull from all these influences and it was prominent enough during development that they sprinkle references to it throughout the show and yet their portrayal and treatment of asian characters in the show is so abysmal it just feels Bad™, you know? i cant really put it more eloquently than that, like its very take and no give with it.

it overall just puts a bad taste in my mouth, and its sad that it still affects people years later. like i mentioned in the tags of the post that started this discussion with that whole old trend of putting yourself into the bg of dp screenshots, i felt alienated by that. and its not the people who participated's fault obviously but most of the people i saw participating were white fans (going off of how they drew themselves) and it made me a bit mad that they were able to enjoy the style of the show in a more carefree manner than i ever could. i didnt want to ruin anyone's fun obviously, but a small part of me wanted to bring to light how i wasnt on equal ground with them in that situation.

[elzifelzi]

Soo this is just like me ranting or whatever and i don't want to discourage anyone cuz uk draw what you like so long as you're not being offensive and promoting hate.

But am I the only one who finds it weird when people infantilize certain characters to the point of mischaracterizing to obscene degrees? Especially like Poc characters.

Like for example Pavitr(Spider-Man india) is this jacked 15/16 year old laid back Indian dude and while he acts like a kid (cuz well he is a kid) I've seen alot of people just take that and turn it into Pav is this tiny soft uwu E-boy and idk it seems kinda weird.

Like for certain characters i get it like Danny Fenton more or less i understand it.

But then for others it's likeee how did u come to this conclusion like ⭐️+🧽 = 🐚?

And again..draw what you want ,create what you love this isn’t to discourage that at all ,just my thoughts.

[loraliewritesthings]

Just realized ghost king Danny in my nameless danny au is probably the first poc ghost king depending on what you think pariah was when alive.

[izukuleeyoung]

I’m going ghost!

I'm not really, but I finished this set and decided to make it a gif!

Might make this a preorder too idk...

Anyway, please follow my links are in my bio and basically on every post.

Danny has always had trans vibes just like Jenny.

If you missed the Jenny Wakeman Gender Pride Flags Tumblr post, here you go.

I really am begging for follows and Mutual Aid so please please please reblog!

[quartergremlin]

I’m doing Blacktober! Day one: Childhood fav

Don’t mind Danny, he’s just admiring his ass-kicking, ghost-hating girlfriend

[starry-bi-sky]

Stillborn danyal al ghul au incorrect quotes - dpxdc au

Vlad and Danny, fighting for the nth time this month: Danyal, exhausted: hey if i call you dad will you like. Stop. I have a test tomorrow. Vlad, has a parental bone in EVERY part of his body: *immediately stopping* Vlad: What do you mEAN YOU HAVE A TEST. WHY DIDN'T YOU LEAD WITH THAT-- Danny: BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO KILL DR. FENTON AGAIN, VLADIMIR.

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Danny, flopping into bed facefirst: i need sleep or rehab. again Tucker (maybe?? I haven't decided yet who he's friends with): i thought you were clean Danny, into a pillow: not if this keeps up.

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Tucker: favorite superhero go Sam: Wonder Woman Danny: the Flash Tucker: Okay Sam's is obvious but, Danny I would've thought you'd say like, Martian Manhunter or Superman or Starfire. But Flash?? Danny: i had a foster in Central City for a few years and met him, he's a really nice guy. He made me promise to invite him to my high school graduation and is part of the reason I made it to rehab and ended up getting rehomed and picked up by the Fentons. Danny: I have a hoodie with his logo on it in my closet, i saved up to buy it and its the first thing I got with the allowance the Fentons got me

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Danny wearing three layers and a scarf in the middle of summer: *shivering* Sam: how are you cold you're literally made of lava Danny, hissing: lava cools at contact with the air and I'm trying to keep my body temperature at a reasonable level, SAM. Tucker, touching Danny: you feel warm to me Danny: to YOU

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Danny:...i could eat lava Tucker: Sam: Danny: Tucker: do it. no balls Danny, getting up: bET--

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Danny: Dash: The Both Of Them: *under the bleachers to smoke/vape* Danny, smokes: I wont tell if you won't tell Dash, vapes: ....deal

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Danny, breaking into Vlad's lab: YOU FUCKER QUIT-- what the hell is that Vlad, working on his newest invention: Language. ....And it's something I'm working on, go away Danny: what? no, fuck you. You're trying to kill Jack again and this looks interesting. I was gonna come beat you but now I'm curious what the hell this is (Vlad spends a good hour explaining what he's doing before they start arguing and Danny starts a fight)

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Danny laying on the ground staring the ceiling, feeling like shit: Jazz, popping by his room: ,,,what'cha doing, Danny? Danny: Danny, internally: 'Jazz says i should be more open' Danny: considering the benefits of relapsing Jazz, immediately stepping into the room: oh okay so lets talk.

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Danny, meeting Robin as Phantom for the first time unaware of his identity and his own birthright: Robin: Phantom: Phantom: fuck you Robin, a 12 year old: fUCK YOU

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Vlad: Jack Fenton iced me out of my early adulthood and got you, his foster son, killed by his own invention. He is a danger to society and I personally want him dead. Danny: okay, cool motive still murder. Danny, louder: I DONT NEED YOU TO TAKE REVENGE ON MY BEHALF

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Vlad, grabbing Danny's shoulders: aren't you tired of being nice Danny: Vlad: don't you want to go apeshit Danny, in the american foster system since infancy, was in rehab at 11 years old, has been fucked over metaphorically, emotionally, physically, ten times over: Danny: i feel like we need to have a talk

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DP/Regular DPDC Vlad: *gripping by the shoulders* DPDC Vlad: how Stillborn Vlad: what DP/DC Vlad: how are you getting him to like you. Stillborn Vlad:,,, well first off i don't torture him so jot that down Stillborn Vlad: second of all, like is a strong word. Stillborn Vlad: Daniel only likes me on tuesdays and when i show him how to make fireballs

[saeweedbrains]

BOOOOO white danny fenton u can make him white not me tho stay safe out there

[3-xenomorph-gfs]

What are your unpopular Danny Phantom opinions? I may have missed another version, but the reblog I saw from you only had a comment on the phandom’s various responses instead of listing your own, so I’m all curiousy about it :3c

Revised from my initial comment, bc I did leave one on that post but it got lost in the ether:

-Danny Phantom the show is moderately successful at what it intended to do while having enough elements to successfully sustain a fandom, but those two facts are perpetually at war with each other. It's a show meant to socialize 7-year-olds and commit Butch's enjoyment of Scooby-Doo and superheroes to paper. While some of the writers did provide satisfying character moments, it still wasn't meant to provide tangible lore, thoughtful character arcs or deep dives into the horror genre. Have your cake and eat it too, God knows I do, but it makes no sense to resent a cartoon for being a cartoon.

-I only trust trans!Danny when it's an ownvoices thing. It's still not my favorite idea, but I know how much it means to people it resonates with.

-White fans, we could all do a lot more to be more welcoming to fans of color. Rep by way of POC headcanons or OCs doesn't count for anything if you're going to dismiss POC fan content and analysis as niche or reactionary.

-My stance on the Fenton parents goes like this: I think the abusive things they do in canon are a product of cartoon exaggeration, and I'm tired of fans interpreting them in bad faith. However, I do still think that the Useless Parent trope is relevant here, so I gravitate towards media that depicts them as good people but bad parents. However however, I can totally understand fans who are tired of seeing dysfunctional families in child- or teen-centric media.

-I'm pretty okay with most of the villains not having a lot of depth to them lmao. There are exceptions, like Johnny, Kitty and Sidney, but the others don't offer much imo.

-I don't much care for Dani

-Fans are way too quick to draw Valerie skinny and/or give any of the characters of color more Western features

-I said in the initial comment that the trio's friendship is tepid and that Jazz is kind of annoying, but I'm going to go ahead and say that both subjects are all too often plot obstacles, and fanon often fails in the same way canon does to give Tucker, Sam and Jazz interesting roles. (Tl;dr there are so many fics where any/all of them are Just Kind of There because they're obligated to be.)

-A lot of popular fanon lore (obsessions, ghost hunger, territory/lairs, cores) only serves to deprive ghosts of any humanity/agency and add a bunch of plot wires to trip over

-the concept of a social structure in the Ghost Zone was already bad but then it became a useless cocktail of American & European political structures for no reason

-I never miss an opportunity to say this. They fucked up making Sam Danny’s friend (and later love interest) instead of his sister like they’d originally drafted

-Wes Weston, similar community OCs and Pitch Pearl all exist because of the cast’s dearth of svelte white boys besides Danny

-gay ships don’t automatically yield more interesting characters

-there are other traumatic and invasive medical procedures than vivisection and I’m begging you to use them

[weaverworks]

I hope guys like them! My take on Paulina and Danny from Danny Phantom. Danny Fentom is Native American.

[long-termpact]

So I drew a grown up version of Danny Phantom where he has become a fusion of his human and ghost side and thought that maybe someone around here might appreciate it~ (Also my headcannon has always been him being POC)

[3-xenomorph-gfs]

lexx you’re gonna regret ever letting me find this

-the Guys in White are only fun to watch if they can barely get their pants up in the morning

-I could go rabid about Kindred Spirits and how it should serve as a warning to fans about when angst doesn’t work

-every villain peaked in their debut episode

-Johnny, Kitty, Sidney, Clockwork and maybe Nocturn are the only ghost characters I give two shits about

-Vlad isn’t that deep. Yes, I know he was my favorite for awhile. I got better

-I’ve brought this up a few times by now, but the show being episodic was not in itself a bad thing and milking every last plot point/throwaway line for lore is a bootless errand

-people are way too quick to draw Valerie skinny or lighten the poc characters up a few shades

-the trio’s friendship is pretty tepid and I struggle to see them even lasting past high school

-i feel like a lot of popular fanon lore (obsessions, ghost hunger, territory/lairs, cores) only serves to deprive ghosts of any humanity/agency and add a bunch of plot wires to trip over

-the concept of a social structure in the Ghost Zone was already bad but then it became a useless cocktail of American & European political structures for no reason

-valid points in support of the Fenton parents absolutely exist and should be taken into account when writing them. That said no amount of debate is going to convince me that they’re good parents

-none of the two-parters warranted it

-I never miss an opportunity to say this. They fucked up making Sam Danny’s friend (and later love interest) instead of his sister like they’d originally drafted

-unrelated to the above point but Jazz is obnoxious okay

-Wes Weston, similar community OCs and Pitch Pearl all exist because of the cast’s dearth of svelte white boys besides Danny

-gay ships don’t automatically yield more interesting characters (yes i’m looking at danny/dash and sam/paulina in specific)

-there are other traumatic and invasive medical procedures than vivisection and I’m begging you to use them

What’s your unpopular Danny Phantom opinions? I’ll go first

-I don’t like Dani

-The Ultimate Enemy was a bad episode and Dan sucks

-Ghost Writer isn’t that engaging of an enemy. Also his episode sucked too.

-Clockwork is okay??? I guess???

Okay now go