#Oz Gay Bar

[tankawanka]

Forget Me, New Orleans

Forget me, New Orleanswith your full moon trappedin a twisted web of Live Oak branchesand your sun rising through Palm frondsand your Spanish Moss swaying abovethe heads of strutting Ibises in City Parkand little lizards darting up and down the wallsand all around my feet as I walk Forget me, New Orleanswith live blues and jazz mixed with bounce and rockand drag queens in Oz doing death dropsand…

[fiapple]

other early buffy bi-coding includes: both her heart & spirit being initially coded as gay/bisexual (the writers weren’t sure which till tara came into the picture, & according to a semi-recent article, of which label pretty much until willow came out) & were intended as such, as the writers always knew one of them was going to come out.

[omarfor-orchestra]

Cioè raga c'è un altro personaggio nuovo chi CAZZO è Lollo mo

[penultimatestalematewithdeath]

The more I go out to the bars at the #Queer Cities the more I miss the small conglomerate queer communities that are in the middle of nowhere Straight Country. Like, there’s so much more community and solidarity there. Hometown gay bar has other trans people and everyone wants to make sure you get home safe. Bourbon street or DTLA gay bars roll their eyes at you if you ask for water and look at you like you’re the plague if you aren’t passing as a Conventionally Attractive Cis Gay Man.

[lonelylittledot]

Wicked

~ a Wicked scholar's thoughts on the movie

Okay. I had detached myself from any feelings about the movie truly years ago, and so I walked into the movie theatre with really low expectations.

My overall opinion: it was not a bad adaptation. I'd expected to give it 3/10, it turned out as a solid 6.5/10.

Here are just a few things that stuck out to me:

The landscapes - didn't hate them but didn't like them.

The costumes - amazing. Pretty much every outfit slayed. I feel like they could have been even a bit more extravagant, but they were great as they were. - As for Elphaba, I think my favorite outfit was the first Shiz dress and the post-Popular outfit. - Glinda's bubble dress was exquisite, and I really liked her Emerald City ensemble, although I do miss the yellow dress, I feel like it doesn't get enough love

I liked Ariana's G(a)linda surprisingly a lot. Maybe it's because I know she's a huge Wicked fan, but I felt like her love for the source material really showed.

I wasn't really sold on Cynthia. Don't get me wrong, she has a truly fabulous voice, and she absolutely did shine in the big, loud parts - but overall, I wasn't a fan of her versions of the songs. She looked and acted great, though.

Michelle Yeoh, the woman you are. Fantastic casting, no notes.

Jonathan. Oh, dear, Johnathan Bailey. Looks? Hot. Vocals? Gorgeous. Vibes? Flawless. I wish he'd played the role a decade ago, because he does look forty and not college-age, but I think everything else about him truly makes up for it.

Speaking of - I liked that Fiyero got just a few tiny little additional scenes/lines, really helped to flesh out his character more.

Grammar-nazi Elphaba, my beloved.

Listen, I have shipped Fiyero and Elphaba since I was 14. And I'm not going to stop now. I stan them, I loved their chemistry in the movie, I will ship them until the day I die.

The direction on G(a)linda/Elphaba - hella gay. But I didn't quite feel their chemistry, neither friendly nor romantic. It was okay, but didn't blow me away.

IDINA AND KRISTEN???? love love love love my og queens

The movie dragged on. A lot. This is my only really big criticism, unfortunately it's a really important one. I think they could easily have made the whole musical into one 3h long movie, and it would have been much better for the pacing. - there weren't even that many added scenes; and a lot of the additions were pretty good, actually - some were totally unnecessary though. like the guards chasing Elphaba and Glinda and the whole balloon shenanigans? - similarly, many scenes were just unnecessarily stretched out; with the camera staying too long in one place or one moment being dragged out way too long - some of the songs just had slightly longer (like 2 bars?) breakes between the choruses added for no reason

Defying Gravity. This is the same thing as one of the previous comments, but I feel like it deserves its separate mention. The pacing in that scene (or, here, more like a collection of scenes) was extremely off, the song losing all of its momentum by being chopped up into pieces. And the way they made us wait for the iconic vocalization at the end; I honestly thought I'd die of boredom.

Sometimes I felt like the movie couldn't decide if it wanted to be more stage-y and theatrical, and lean into the whole campy vibe, or more cinematic and "naturally" acted; and sometimes it switched weirdly between the two.

There was one single thing that looked way better onscreen than onstage. The Lion cub. In the movie, he looked extremely cute, tiny little adorable darling baby kitten. Way better than the creepy-ass puppet they use in the show.

There were many more tasty little details that I simply couldn't remember/write down, or else I wouldn't have been able to pay any attention to the movie. Once it's available, maybe I'll rewatch and dissect it in more detail (I should also finally watch the 1939 Wizard of Oz, it's a CRIME that I still haven't! I'm sure people who know it well could also see many references in the new Wicked - even I noticed the ruby slippers in Popular, for example!).

Summing up this unnecessarily long rant:

It was not a bad adaptation; although I doubt it will make many people into Wicked fans. At the end of the day, it's clearly a story made for the stage, and even though it was transferred to the big screen fairly well, I think it still belongs in the regular theatre, not the movie one.

[totallylost4you]

"Friend of Dorothy" explaination (History)

Stonewall Inn in YOU NEED TO CALM DOWN. 2019 Taylor performed at the bar to honor the 50th anniversary of the 1969 Stonewall Riots.

Judy Garland starred in Wizard of Oz and the day she died precipitated the Stonewall Riot. Everyone was in the bar mourning her death and the cops knew Judy was a queer icon & decided easy pickings bc being gay was illegal. So they decided to arrest everyone inside Stonewall.

But instead of an arrest it turned into a Riot and it became a turning point in queer rights or "the hairpin drop heat ‘round the world". And that was the first Pride. (x)

e.g. Elton John used Wizard of Oz as a reference to try to tell people he is gay before formally coming out. (x)

[kaccvcate]

ESSENTIAL GAY HISTORY MOVIES (according to me, with a focus on the controversial)

The Wizard of Oz (1939) - Included because I actually met a young queer person who didn't believe me that this is a historical lgbt movie. I'm sorry but if you haven't seen this I'm revoking your gay license.

The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1972) - Another one I'm including just in case someone hasn't seen it and needs a reminder to do so (I know teenagers read my blog.)

Pink Flamingos (1972) - A John Waters movie. His films are bizarre, gross comedies and unlike any others.

Female Trouble (1974) - Another John Waters feature, this one has one of my favorite lines from any movie, "son, why don't you stop fooling around with these straight women and find yourself a nice queer to settle down with?" (paraphrased)

Desperate Living (1977) - My favorite John Waters picture, this one is bordering on epic fantasy. It's set in a shantytown in the woods, populated by gay criminals, ruled by an evil queen.

Dog Day Afternoon (1975) - Based on a true story about a guy who robbed a bank to pay for his girlfriend's gender reassignment surgery.

The Forbidden Zone (1980) - THE OINGO BOINGO MOVIE. Not only is the soundtrack Danny Elfman's best work (in this writer's humble opinion) but it's also a beautiful movie about love for the controversial and perverse. Obviously it was made by queers and people of color, but they were trying to be offensive, so they do shit like, have characters in blackface, but also black actors, sometimes in the same scene (an artistic choice as confusing to a modern audience as it was when they made it.)

Killer Condom (1996) - A German murder mystery/comedy about a gay cop. Very corny and lighthearted, it feels more like an 80s movie.

Velvet Goldmine (1998) - A sweet and poignant romance between two male rockstars. This one feels like it came from within my own heart.

Cruising (1980) - Another murder mystery, this time centered around a bisexual cop, only this one isn't a comedy. They shot footage in actual gay bondage bars in New York, but the hardcore stuff got cut because I guess god hates us ( lol). You can still tell in some scenes they're really fisting dudes and shit.

The Gay Deceivers (1969) - Two straight men pretend to be a gay couple to dodge the draft. They move to a gay neighborhood and have to blend in with their neighbors.

Feel free to suggest more, I'm sure there's a lot I didn't think of.

[alexmae79]

Felix still has that business card of the gay bar cup gave him right?

Soooooo when is Felix and Oz gonna go to that bar? I feel like he accidentally drop it while hanging out with Oswald and Oswald would pick it up and tease him a bit about it before seriously asking if he actually wants to go there … just for fun. Felix wouldn’t know how to respond but I feel like Oswald would say that it’s okay and that he would go with him to make Felix more comfortable. I need them to go on a date. ASAP.

And then he would tell Bendy and Holly what happened and he would ask them to cover for him if anyone ask where he’s gone to. Bendy and Holly would take this task so seriously and would make sure NO ONE messes this up for Felix.

[the-uncharted-cookbook]

Avery's Grand Punch

Barbadan rum, red wine, lime juice, and Earl Grey syrup

I had thought Nathan Drake was out of the game for good, but I should have known better.

I had just been getting back into the swing of things after my recovery when Nate stopped by the bar for the first time in years with yet another impossible story. I had a death-defying tale of my own for him, but it didn't exactly involve finding another legendary city lost to history. This time, Nathan Drake had uncovered Libertalia, a pirate utopia nestled off the coast of Madagascar, a place that people have been searching for since Captain Charles Johnson published A General History of the Pyrates in 1724. He pulled a gold coin from his pocket and told me a tale of pirates and puzzles, the return of lost family and old rivals, and of the fine line between passion and obsession.

Libertalia was founded by Henry Avery, Thomas Tew, and ten other pirate captains as a way to achieve true freedom for themselves and their crews, far away from the governments that would have them hanged for piracy. Their resources and spoils were pooled together and an idyllic colony was built. But greed led the founders to betray their community and hoard all of the wealth for themselves. Libertalia was broken. As the founders began to turn on each other, Avery and Tew hatched a plan to end the conflict permanently. They brought all of the founders of Libertalia together under the guise of peace talks, knowing that only they would walk out alive. With one final toast, ten of history's greatest pirates unknowingly drank their demise and perished in an instant, all at the same table.

Avery's Grand Punch is a red wine rum punch inspired by the romanticism of piracy and the promises of Libertalia. Pirates would typically drink whatever they could get their hands on but wine and rum were some of the most prevalent drinks in the Caribbean, where most of Libertalia's pirate captains roamed before turning their sails to Madagascar. Historically, much like today, rum was often cut with lime juice, sugar, and spices to improve the taste. Red wine was chosen to round out this punch as a representation of the opulence of Libertalia's founders. Avery's Grand Punch is a potent drink fit for a pirate captain, just be sure to drink it in good company.

AVERY'S GRAND PUNCH

Ingredients: 1.5 oz moderately aged Barbadan rum (Plantation Barbados 5) 0.5 oz light-bodied red wine 0.5 oz lime juice 0.25 oz Earl Grey syrup Combine all ingredients in a cocktail shaker with pebble ice or crushed ice. Shake and strain into a wine glass. Garnish with an orange peel to help prevent scurvy.

Avery's Grand Punch calls for a moderately aged Barbadan rum. These rums are typically aged between 4-10 years and often have a golden hue. I used Plantation Barbados 5 for this recipe, but Real McCoy 5 Year, Mount Gay Eclipse, or other moderately aged Barbadan rums are all effective substitutes. I chose a light-bodied red wine because because their higher acidity plays well with the lime juice and their lower tannins and alcohol content help compliment the rum rather than overpower it.

Depending on your personal taste, you may wish to increase or decrease the amount of lime juice and Earl Grey syrup to adjust the sour and sweet flavors.

The recipe for Earl Grey syrup can be found here.

[sapphicscience]

thinking...if I want to have it set in oz still then maybe I can't transplant the wizard and he still has to be the wizard. I could snag dr. nikidik from the book to run the boys' half of the camp. the emerald city can be the actual emerald city And the name of a gay bar and it can be one of those cheeky things like college bars called "the library"

[macdennisofficial]

The most delusionally happy way for the show to end is for Frank's emotional arc episode to be saved for the finale, and is centered around him, and the Gang, accepting his place as the father figure . . . by Dennis asking Frank to walk him down the aisle when he marries Mac, in Paddy's Pub. In fact let's get crazy with it, Dee and Charlie get married too, and he walks them down the aisle also. In fact he just fucking walks them all down the aisle, like Wizard of Oz strolling. Fuck it, and Cricket is the officiant and marries Chardee Macdennis in a double wedding ceremony. Also they turned Paddy's Pub into a gay bar just like the first episode and now it's come full circle. Dolph Lundgren guest stars again because why not and hangs dong over the final credits. The end.

[gaphic]

i'm not insecure about my appearance but i have often worried that my general '11 year old cartoon character' vibe miiiiight make it a bit hard for people to. yknow. take me seriously and find me attractive as a sexual adult?

but last night i spent several hours dancing at oz (gay bar in new orleans) and i had people of every gender and sexuality you can imagine hitting on me. i even achieved my dearest and most ambitious Gender Vibes dream: i made a straight man question his sexuality

[coraniaid]

The online Buffy fandom seems to really like talking about the "original plans" for the show, but also to hate the concept of citing sources or providing evidence. So there are all sorts of ideas from the "original plan" floating out there in the aether that you seem to have to choose whether or not you believe based largely on vibes.

Generally I'm inclined to be pretty skeptical of the concept of an "original plan" for the show, whether that's the idea that Dawn was "originally" going to have telekinetic powers or that Faith was "originally" going to kill herself in the middle of Season 3 or that Buffy's parents were "originally" never going to be appear on screen. It is very hard for me to square ideas like these with the general tone or theme of their respective seasons. (If they're true, I think my main takeaway would be that we're fantastically lucky that the show turned out as well as it did.)

Similarly, but somewhat distinctly, I'm very dubious of readings which suggest that, for example, Amy's actions in Season 2's Bewitched, Bothered & Bewlidered are a sign that Amy's characterisation in the first half of Season 6 was actually planned out well in advance. I don't think that interpretations like this are really supported by the text of the show at all, and frankly I don't think they give the writers enough credit for the very real skill involved in making things up as they went along.

For the most part, and barring evidence to the contrary, I'm inclined to put most of the "original plans" people like to talk about down to misunderstandings or miscommunications. Maybe an idea got idly tossed around for a few minutes while a season of the show was first being brainstormed, or maybe an actor initially only signed up to appear in five episodes, and from those tiny true fragments an "original plan" for the character was retroactively inferred which was never intended by the show's creators.

But there are a small handful of exceptions to this general rule -- the idea that it was "originally" Xander who was going to come out as gay, not Willow; the idea that "originally" Angelus was going to kill Oz rather than Jenny Calendar; the idea that "originally" Kendra was going to survive Season 2 and go on to have Faith's Season 3 arc -- that I think are different. I haven't been able to find hard sources for these claims either, but they've all been repeated for so long, and for so often, with so little variation, that I think it's more likely than not that the writers have at some point described these as the original plans for the show. These, I'm reasonably sure, aren't misunderstandings on fandom's part.

Let's call them what they are instead: lies.

The show's writers may well have claimed these, but if they did I don't think there's any reason to believe they were telling the truth.

Yes, it's very easy to read Xander as a (deeply, deeply repressed) gay or bisexual man. It's the most sympathetic way to make sense of his awkwardness around Larry Blaisdel, and of his frequently expressed opinion that Angel and Riley and Spike and Oz (and all the other men his two best friends date) are attractive and of his jokes about wanting to date them. And if you believe that Buffy herself is bi -- as I do, but (perhaps crucially) the writers explicitly don't -- then it makes a certain amount of sense that her metaphorical Heart should be as well.

But nothing about the way the show actually treated gay men over its seven seasons suggests to me that the writers would ever have seriously considered having one of the leading male chararacters come out as attracted to men. The actual show gives us Larry (who boasts to Xander about how out he is without ever actually showing romantic or sexual attraction to another man on screen, then is quietly killed off and seemingly never mourned), and Andrew Wells (whose obvious but unacknowledged attraction to both Warren and then later Xander is always played as a 'hilarious' joke) and Jane Espenson tried to smuggle Giles/Ethan past the other writers for an episode or two but ... that's really it, isn't it? (Not counting things unique to Angel the series, anyway.) We didn't even get the (supposedly) originally scripted kiss between two men in Smashed, allegedly because the writing team that brought us Bewitched, Bothered & Bewildered were worried about there being "unfortunate implications" to having sexual attraction be something that magic could influence.

Equally, yes, it really sucks that Jenny Calendar died and it's nice to imagine that the writers at least considered keeping her alive and trying to do something interesting with the character. But I'm pretty sure that the writing was on the wall for her as soon as the show retconned her as being linked to Angel's curse (if not well before).

Why would Angel kill Oz, specifically? What links these two characters? Why not go after somebody Buffy has actually had a conversation with first? Or somebody that Angel ever had a conversation with? When you know the show's full history -- when you know what happens to not just Jenny herself but also Gwendolyn Post and Maggie Walsh and Joyce Summers, to Cordelia and Tara and Anya, to every adult woman with any impact on the plot and to any woman who dares to break up with one of the Core Four -- how plausible does it really sound that the writers ever considered sparing Jenny at the expense of Oz?

And yes, it also stinks that Kendra only got to appear in three (or, let's be honest, something more like one and a half) episodes before she was killed off. And that her name is only spoken once after Becoming, and only as a bit of exposition to set up the new, more plot significant, more interestingly written vampire slayer. It's infuriating to realize that of the six Slayers we see called before Chosen it's exactly and only the two white Slayers who get to live and have full character arcs. It would have been great if Kendra could somehow have stuck around, or if the writers had found a pretense to bring her back somehow.

But the fragments we see of Kendra's personality -- painfully shy around boys, a stickler for following the rules, raised from a young age to respect the authority of her Watcher -- suggests she's utterly unlike Faith. How could she have had Faith's Season 3 arc, without her character being totally rewritten from the ground up? How could she have this arc and still be Kendra?

Yes, Kendra should be important. She's the second Slayer we ever meet, somebody who's very existence upends everything we know about the show's mythology. The first -- and for a while, only -- person we meet who can really understand Buffy and appreciate exactly what she's going through as a Slayer. Kendra should be one of the major characters on the show, and her untimely death should have long term ripples and ramifications for years to come. But equally it seems very obvious that the writers didn't care about her at all, and that they never did and were never going to.

So she isn't a major character, and her death doesn't matter.

I think it's doing the show more credit than it deserves -- and willfully downplaying its very real and persistent homophobia and misogyny and racism -- to pretend that any of these things could have been different. Even if it does turn out that the writers ever claimed otherwise.

[purpleplaid17]

Jess Watches // Sat 8 Jan // Day 487 & Sun 9 Jan // Day 488 Synopses & Favourite Scenes & Poll

Six Nations 2025 (with L)

England (4) vs France (2)

They might as well have been playing with a bar of soap in the 1st half. The wet conditions prevented some showstopping tries. Luckily for ENG most of those were for FRA.

The Night Agent (with L) 2x02 Disconnected

Reunited at last, Peter and Rose race to intercept Warren. Noor weighs using her access to classified Iranian intelligence for her own gain.

Faraz Hamzad AND Marco Inaros on the same team. Peter will definitely be outsmarted then lol.

Wicked (2024) (with mum)

Elphaba, a misunderstood young woman because of her green skin, and Galinda, a popular girl, become friends at Shiz University in the Land of Oz. After an encounter with the Wonderful Wizard of Oz, their friendship reaches a crossroads.

So much I enjoyed. The gay vibes were vibing throughout, and not just for Gelphie! I'm gonna look up a bts to see how much of the set was actually there because the design was epic in scale and beauty. And If you put the subtitles on, it s like watching a sing-along. 💚

[spade-riddles]

//Judy Garland starred in Wizard of Oz and the day she died precipitated the Stonewall Riot. Everyone was in the bar mourning her death and the cops knew Judy was a queer icon & decided easy pickings bc being gay was illegal. So they decided to arrest everyone inside Stonewall.//

***Queer history fact check***

Hi I’d just like to point out this is not an accurate representation of how and why the stonewall riots happened. While it’s true that Judy had just died and many queer people were mourning her, this reason for the riots was mainly given by straight newspaper writers to explain away queer people’s anger at being socially limited to an unsafe, exploitative underground scene. ‘oh those rowdy queers were just torn up about their fave Judy, don’t mind them.’ It’s not the reason the police raided, or why the bar patrons decided to fight back for the first time (these raids were a regular, accepted occurrence at the many mafia-owned gay bars.) There were multiple, compounding reasons the bar patrons fought back that night. I want to encourage everyone to learn the historical context so as to avoid spreading misinformation. It’s a fascinating history I can’t summarise here, it’s not just down to a single cause or a single person deciding to ‘throw the first brick’ as it is sometimes told.

There are a bunch of great podcasts that parse the primary sources from the myth, including Kaz Rowe’s youtube video about gay bars and the mafia. Queer as Fact’s stonewall episode tells you about the source of the Judy Garland explanation. As trained historians they compare each source’s historical validity.

I don’t mean to negate the spirit of the post quoted above. I intend to encourage people to learn the real history! It’s frankly much more interesting than a tidy explanation relating to yas queen queer icon Judy Garland, as important as she was to the culture. It’s a disservice to the spirit of queer survival and rebellion to assert that it was entirely about her.

Taylor’s Dorothy cosplay is loud enough and gay enough on its own, you don’t need to connect it directly to the riots for it to be an exiting easter egg!

I hope this inspires curiosity, thanks for reading xoxoxo

[lgbt-cishet-movie-tournament]

How is it cishet media?

TWoO: The characters are cishet

9t5: Everyone here cishet and the main women have or had a husband at some point.

How is it lgbt?

TWoO: "A friend of dorothy" was LGBT slang for a gay man. I always liked how it sounded.

9t5 Dolly Parton smokes a blunt with her girl best friends at a bar. And support each other in the workplace.