#Or it could decanonize the show which I DO NOT want to happen
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Things I Personally want to see in Monsters at Work Season 3
-Seeing what happens to fearco
Something like Fearco going under, or Claire taking over, or Sully and Mike making a partnership with Fearco, I want to know what happened to it after Johnny got arrested
-Tylor being confident and content
I feel like his character arc is complete. He can still be the main character along with Mike and Sully and MIFT, but I feel like he should be completely content with his life after the arcs he had with the first two seasons. Less clumsy and more confident with everything he’s got and having a very close relationship with the MIFT members
-Duncan redemption
I love Duncan being pathetic and all, but I feel like in season 3, after Tylor becoming a jokester and saving the city from exploding, I feel like Duncan should be on Tylor’s good side now. I’d be glad to see his pathetic personality still there, but I’d like to see him finally warm up to Tylor and maybe they could be great friends. And if he does take Fritz’s job, it would feel much more earned if he does get redeemed
-Fritz’s daughter and deceased wife
Saw a clip from an interview on how Fritz had a deceased wife and currently has a daughter in MU and I would like to see that explored in season 3. Doesn’t need to be angsty or anything, but it would be nice to see it play out in the show
-Waternoose physically shown
I really want to see him again and even talk. I want to know what he feels about laugh power, and heck, maybe confront his son or even have a conversation with Johnny Worthington (I’d like to imagine said conversation would result in a brawl lmao)
-Claire and her kids reacting to Johnny going to prison
No doubt they would be devastated and upset at the news. Maybe even have Claire become depressed or stressed. I do like to imagine Roger trying to comfort them in hard times since he understands exactly what they are going through
-Roger’s mother appearing
SHOW ME WHAT WENDY LOOKS LIKE YOU COWARDS
-More scenes with Sunny and Cutter
I need more of them. They are hilarious
-Randall committing more crimes against humanity
I have mixed feelings about him getting a redemption arc but I just want to see him commit the absolute worst crimes known to man.
-More than 10 episodes
If season 3 does happen and if it is the final season, I feel like it should have more than ten episodes. Perhaps maybe 15-20 episodes to give perfect any lose ends or every story beats
-(optional) Have the OK gang or Dean appear
I would like to see these characters again, but I feel like if they don’t appear, I won’t like, throw a fit over it or something. Although apart of me does want to see Dean’s reaction to laugh power and see Terry and Terri again.
I am not so sure what Season 3 would be about (if they do end up making it) since season 1 and 2 had their own independent end goals, but I do still feel like we need at least one more season cuz I genuinely like the show and want to see more.
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mj1343 · 9 months ago
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The Fallout Show, The NCR, Vegas, and Taking a Chill Pill
Fallout Show spoilers hi
i knew when i saw they were going to touch Shady Sands people would get angry regardless of what they did and i totally 100% understand being upset with the treatment of that location and the choices of writing that it took to get there but i genuinely do not understand the sentiment that Vegas is noncanon all of a sudden
Shady Sands is where the NCR formed and the first capital but they do not exclusively exist there. We know by New Vegas the NCR holds a lot of territory, and has territories they want to claim in the future:
'Hayes: "Sure can. The NCR was founded from the survivors of one of the great Vaults. We started as a small settlement called Shady Sands. We now consist of 5 states, that make up the greatest nation since the Great War."'
'NCR history holodisk: "Founded eighty years ago, the NCR is now comprised of the states of Shady, Los Angeles, Maxson, Hub, and Dayglow. Approximately 700,000 citizens are pleased to call NCR home."
In fact, we SEE a small sect of NCR remnants IN THE SHOW. I know a small group of people does not equate an entire nation but just the fact people are still fighting under the flag means they are not magically game ended forever and it is VERY overzealous to assume the ENTIRE NCR was housed in Shady Sands as late as 2277 when we know they were incorporating new territories before AND AFTER 2277
On the 'Vegas is a desolate nuked wasteland' front, i also genuinely do not understand it because, shockingly, locations IRL are larger than they are in the game!!!! The Strip in New Vegas is what, two cells? and one road with 4 casinos on it? The irl Strip is a 4 mile stretch of road that can have anywhere from 30 to 50+ casinos depending who you ask and over 100 casinos in all of Vegas easily. I understand they flash the Lucky 38 and the New Vegas sign to get excitement built but we have to look at scale a lot differently in the show than in the games. There are many scenes (which i have criticized) that are completely empty deserts for miles to see. Hell, the scale of the Vaults is different because they need to actually function as a building and not a location in a video game.
Yes. We see a few dead securitrons in the ending. You know where else you can find dead securitron? Littered about in the hit 2010 role playing game Fallout New Vegas. This is not a sign of desolation. This is a sign of some wasteland asshole killed a few. There are no people on the strip because this is supposed to drum up intrigue and tease a second season. We Do Not Know what has happened in Vegas. There could be hundreds of people on the strip and we just dont see them because they wanted a moody shot with no one in it. We have no idea. But you want to know what i can reasonably assume? it WASNT NUKED. because SHADY SANDS WAS NUKED AND ITS A CRATER AND YOU CAN STILL SEE EVERYTHING IN VEGAS STANDING. This is a post apocalypse franchise that, for better or worse (mostly worse) prides itself on Not Fixing Things from 200 years ago. A broken building or sign in New Vegas at the end of the show Does Not Mean New Vegas is completely removed from canon.
I know. I know you guys cannot be happy with anything Bethesda touches. I know you refuse to just take a breather for a moment. And i understand and entirely agree nuking a notable location from the original games is dirty. i am not giving Bethesda credit. There was some good in the show and some bad. I Understand. But this show has not decanonized New Vegas in any way and i truely do not understand the outrage from this point of view specifically. You can be angry about anything else. i know i cannot stop you if i wanted to. You will always find something to be mad about. But PLEASE think critically about this for a moment
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tachiisms · 3 years ago
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okay so I have seen Siri’s cameo in Brotherhood, and while I’m delighted for her to continue to get little crumbs of mentions in new canon books, I’m also a little disappointed that this mention of her seems to do what was pretty solidified for me with the Obi-Wan Kenobi show, which is confirming that they will not be re-canonizing Ferus Olin. (as I mentioned in a previous post: two things can both be truth, 1 that I am enjoying the Obi-Wan show and am glad for everyone who is loving it, and 2 that I am disappointed that they have either fully decanonized Ferus or at least removed his 20 years on Alderaan as Leia’s protector.) 
this is the cameo in Brotherhood, just so you can follow along with my thought process here (probably obvious, but if you have not read Brotherhood and do not want to see anything, please skip this, though there are no spoilers in this since we all know already that Anakin got Knighted after the Battle of Geonosis). 
“...Anakin standing with the rest of the new Jedi Knights while behind them, current Padawans observed. To his left, D’urban Wen-Hurd, the Tholothian notable throughout training for her twin shoto lightsabers. To his right, Keer Stenwyt, Olana Chion, and several others. Across the courtyard stood their mentors, at least the ones available: Moragg Bomo, a Kel Dor with black tunic and blue-tinted goggles, Siri Tachi, Ma-Dok Risto, and more.”
for timing purposes, remember that Ferus resigned from the Order approximately 3 years prior to the Battle of Geonosis, after which it was explicitly stated in Secrets of the Jedi that Siri never took another Padawan. (I’ve discussed before now that it’s notable that this is explicitly mentioned, because Secrets of the Jedi takes place within the first year of the Clone Wars, so Siri has really only been without a Padawan for 3-4 years, and yet we’re directly told that she never took another Padawan, when that isn’t exactly necessary information for the context of the plot, the mission, or even the scene. other Jedi who haven’t taken Padawans -- for example Garen Muln and Bant Eerin, both of whom appear in many of Jude’s books -- are just described without the mention of a Padawan, but never with a ‘they’re alone here because they’ve never taken a Padawan.’) 
so for Siri to be at the Knighting of a Padawan of hers just after the Battle of Geonosis, this would mean that either Ferus does not exist and she never had a Padawan who resigned (which we all know I will not ever do), or it means that she took a Padawan at some point within those three years, but given the timing of the Knighting, it must have been a Padawan who was nearly finished training and whose Master died. 
the second of those two, I could be amenable to, especially considering that one of the Padawans mentioned as being Knighted is Olana Chion. Olana Chion is the baby that Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Adi Gallia, and Siri went to find on Siri’s first mission as a Padawan in Jedi Apprentice: The Fight for Truth. (and as a side note, Olana Chion is also a named background Jedi extra seen in ROTS that Lucasfilms named after baby O-Lana essentially as a thank you type acknowledgment to Jude for how much she did for prequels era media, where they acknowledged that, at the time, Jude had written more prequels era books than any other individual.) the Brotherhood passage does, whether intentionally or not, match up Olana and Siri: Olana is the third of the Padawans that Anakin lists, and Siri is the third of the Masters that Anakin lists. 
considering that Siri was among the Jedi who found Olana (and, additionally, Siri was the one who Olana’s mother handed her to when both parents had thought it through and decided to send Olana with the Jedi), if something happened to Olana’s Master between the time of Ferus’s resignation and the Battle of Geonosis, I could see Siri being able to be convinced to finish her training. (it would be a very hard decision for her, she feels her failure of Ferus very deeply, and it’s always felt to me like at least a little bit of self-punishment, since all of the textual evidence we see of her as a Master shows that she loves teaching, and is a great Master, but that she felt very responsible for Ferus’s resignation, and never wanted to fail another Padawan the way she failed Ferus.) but for Olana, especially if it was Adi who was asking, I could see her agreeing to finish Olana’s training. 
I also think that Siri would have continued to see Olana as her former Master’s Padawan more than her own Padawan, though that she would have treated/trained/protected/cared for Olana as if she were Siri’s own (if that distinction makes sense) since we know that for a Jedi to be responsible for another Jedi’s Padawan is considered a deep responsibility, as shown in this passage of Jedi Quest: the School of Fear, where Obi-Wan is responsible for Ferus on a mission where the Council is sending Siri elsewhere alone:            "You will be responsible for another Jedi's Padawan," Mace Windu told Obi-Wan.           "You know what this means."           "It is as if he is my own," Obi-Wan said, looking at Siri.
so... tl;dr that’s how I’m going to reconcile this retcon. Siri finished Olana’s training on behalf of her deceased Master, but never took another Padawan of her own.
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unicronian · 4 years ago
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AO3′s Tag Wrangling System for Dream SMP Fans
TL;DR: You don’t need to use the ‘Video Blogging RPF’ tag to get your fic seen by DreSMP fans, you can use ‘Dream SMP’ and get the same number of views because the tags are considered to be the same. Same thing with character tags ‘Technoblade’ or ‘Technoblade (Dream SMP)’ is just as effective as ‘Technoblade (Video Blogging RPF)’. And, if the fandom uses Dream SMP tags enough they will be separated(or metataged) from the RPF tags, it will just take time and effort to separate those writing RPF from those writing about characters. But right now there’s no reason to use RPF tags if you’re not writing RPF. Do not be afraid to use a new tag you’ve never seen before, it will be connected to the main tag.
Explanation of how AO3′s tag wrangling system works for those interested under the cut. And I add a little bit about what we could accomplish by making the distinction between the tags. I strongly encourage everyone to read all the way through if you read/write on AO3.
Without going into unnecessary detail about the tag wrangling system it works mainly be having a canonized tag and other tags that are synonymous(synned) with that tag, alongside metatags.
So, right now in on AO3 ‘Technoblade (Video Blogging RPF)’ is the canon tag for both Technoblade the character and the person. This means that whenever you try to search for Technoblade using any search term ‘Technoblade’, ‘Technoblade (Dream SMP)’, ‘Dave | Technoblade (Video Blogging RPF)’(the previous canon tag) you will always be technically searching ‘Technoblade (Video Blogging RPF)’ and every fic with those tags just mentioned. This is what synned tags do, they basically all become a single tag.
Example:
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My fic is tagged ‘Technoblade (Dream SMP)’ however, it shows up in and is perfectly findable in the canon ‘Technoblade (Video Blogging RPF)’ tag.
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As displayed here(I used other search terms in the sidebar to narrow down my search, which is why it’s the only fic tagged as ‘Technoblade (Video Blogging RPF)’). The same goes for the ‘Dream SMP - Fandom’ tag(which is synned with ‘Video Blogging RPF)’ and all the other character tags.
Ideally what we want to happen is for ‘Dream SMP - Fandom’ to be its own separate tag so ‘Video Blogging RPF’ is completely disconnected from it. I don’t imagine that this would have a massive impact on fics as most people use character tags to search for fics because ‘Video Blogging RPF’ is jaw droppingly large vague and contains so many other youtubers.
(What could happen, though, is that ‘Dream SMP’ is turned into a metatag, which is also fine and more or less gets the same results and is also complicated.)
(And what we DON’T want to happen is for ‘Dream SMP - Fandom’ to be synned under ‘Minecraft’ because that’s just as annoying and difficult to navigate for both fandoms, as seen in the HLVRAI and Half-Life fandoms. I think in order to avoid this we need to not tag fics with the ‘Minecraft’ fandom tag.)
The character tags are going to be more complicated than the fandom tag because these are the tags people are using to find fics because the fandom tag is so messed up. Until the fandom tag is fixed there isn’t going to be an easy solution to separating RPF and non-RPF fics, because right now there are thousands on non-RPF fics being tagged with RPF tags needlessly.
And, honestly, I don’t have a perfect solution for this. What I would do is decanonize ‘Technoblade (Video Blogging RPF)’ then canonize ‘Technoblade’ and then turn ‘Technoblade (Video Blogging RPF)’ and ‘Technoblade (Dream SMP)’(and other non-RPF tags) as metatags beneath it.
What this would do is make ‘Technoblade’ the canon term that people can search for- when using this term you would view both RPF tags and character tags for Technoblade- while also making ‘Technoblade (Video Blogging RPF)’ and ‘Technoblade (Dream SMP)’ separate search terms(instead of synning them, which would make them the same tag. People tagging as RPF before any tag changes can get their fics viewed, and people can explicitly search for non-RPF tags created afterwards.
Example for how metatags would work:
I’m looking for Technoblade fics so I go to AO3′s search function and I’m given three options:
‘Technoblade’ (the canonized tag)
‘Technoblade (Video Blogging RPF)’ (a metatag)
‘Technoblade (Dream SMP)’ (a metatag)
I either don’t care if it’s RPF or I’m aware that tags that aren’t RPF are often tagged as RPF so I search ‘Technoblade’. AO3 gives me all fics tagged with at least one of all three of them- I essentially have access to all Technoblade fics ever created and tagged. This benefits the authors by not forcing them to use RPF tags when not writing RPF while giving me access to old non-RPF fics tagged as RPF and I as the reader am happy with my selection.
Or, I’m looking for Technoblade fics and I don’t even want a chance to see RPF fics so I search ‘Technoblade (Dream SMP)’. I only get terms tagged exactly like that(and other tags synned with it) and I don’t see the others. This harms authors that used the old canonized tag, but I as a reader have a better experience, and so do new authors that aren’t writing RPF.
Or, I’m searching for RPF fics only. I’m kind of screwed over, though, because the tags are messed up(because there are loads of non-RPF things tagged as RPF). Sorry. This basically can’t be solved with my knowledge, unless you created another tag(that isn’t synned with ‘Technoblade (Video Blogging RPF)’ for RPF, probably using Techno’s real name in his case. This would cause problems with older fics tagged like that, but it’s the same problem caused by metatagging and can be worked around.
Canonizing the ‘Dream SMP’ tag may also create problems with looking for old fics, but it will in the long run help people stay away and separate themselves from RPF. I think both fandom and character tags need to be changed to overall help the fandom.
I’m also open for debates on what you think the best solution to our problem is.
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