#Older gen z vs newer gen z

[frostytundra01]

Man I wasn't even there for og dashcon tumblr and my sister still calls me old for still being on tumblr. The internet really just created several different breeds of generations and zoomers are more diverse than people give us credit for. I can't explain it, I just feel old at 16.

[embellishedbookworm]

holy crap i was just going through my champion teams and i actually have one that can see action after i get through ultra moon, where they don't have a full pokedex. like, sure, i'll have to skip sword because more than half the team doesn't show up in gen 8, but gyarados, ampharos, golem, hypno, heracross, and dragonite all show up in paldea.

looks like my gen 2 team has business in gen 9, after everyone else has gone into retirement.

well, ok, i say they have business, but they haven't even taken on the unova league once, let alone twice, and the team is all higher level than the paldean champion's pokemon. so this is more "nuclear weapon vs crying baby" but because it's a gen 2 team, my rules say i don't use the gimmick from the newer gen to win. i may change the rule when i hit gen 8, when they drop mega evolutions and z moves, but as far as gen 6 and 7 are concerned, we die like men. considering my older teams will always be 10 levels ahead of gen 6 and higher because they lowered the level ceiling of the pokemon leagues, each champ will need all the help they can get lmao.

[okamixxiii]

Mystic Gen Z vs Older Mystics

This is more or so going to be written as a little ramble BUT!! I was quite interested in the topic of Gen Z vers the previous Gens, which made me think hmm.. How would the younger generations of Mystics differ to the older generations?

My answer would be, with the passing of the Forgotten War so long ago, and the population of youth getting tired of hiding, they would begin to rebel through self and expression and by breaking the overall "dont do this in front of humans" rule.

This is based off of how now adays I can go to the mall and see people wearing whatever they want and expressing themselves by whatever they want. More and more people are inclined to not care about how you customize yourself now adays. Which is a good thing! For both sides. If the humans are starting to do it, then what is stopping a younger Mystic to take the leap and go out in public as their true self? for example, a shifter having their ears and tail out.

They could go into a shopping mall and get compliments on them, without being caught or chased away like before. It still isnt a "normal" standard for either population but its not really looked at as such a bad thing before. BUT I do feel as if the older generations had the rule so heavily to lead their life that they would scoff and shake their head at any younger generations doing it. They fear for their safety while the younger generation is more or so ready to come back out into the open, no matter the costs. Its fun to think that similar to the real world, this would have caught as a trend on Mystic social media platforms.

There would be countless of videos of the youth attempting this 'reveal' in public, so much it would even get onto the Mystic news broadcasts. Some news reports may applaud their bravery and commitment, while other pieces of medias are warning Mystic parents to prevent their kids from doing it. T.K.E.A has even had a couple of incidents where they had to get called in just to reprimand rowdy teens and young adults.

Not always doing such harsh jobs as tracking serial killers, yknow? Even with the threat of basically getting your government called on you if youre sighted breaking this law, the Mystic gen Z wont back down so easy! The main thing that really had me thinking is, what about older part of gen Z? For example, anyone that is just starting their 20s, like me. We were raised by an older generation but dont fit there. We are apart of a younger generation but we also dont fit there either. Our views line up, but also differentiate so harshly sometimes. In personality as well. Like uh, you can usually tell someone lived through the migration of social life turning to social media. Things like that. We are the middle of it, the transition between the as they call it "millennial pause" and the "Gen z shake". So...Since the main crew of Skin and Teeth are in their 20's that makes them apart of that older gen z that doesnt quite fit.

Meaning in this particular case, they were raised heavily by the rule "dont do this in front of humans" and probably carry on the fear that they were raised with. They would more than likely be less brave than their younger gen z peers but still looking to break free from the cycle. It made me imagine as an example for Anthony Cinder to try and break this cycle, even though he was especially raised in such a harsh environment to uphold that law. It would be a very important thing.

Tl;DR: The newer generation of Mystics are ready to be open with who they are. For the freedom of it all. Hopefully I made sense!

[wetranxactmedia]

Understanding Generational Differences in Payment Preferences

Generational Preferences in Payment Methods

When it comes to making payments, different generations have​ distinct preferences ‌that are shaped by their unique experiences and values. Understanding ​these ⁢differences can help ​businesses tailor their⁣ payment⁤ options to better suit ‌the needs of their target demographic.

Millennials, for example, are known for their preference for convenience and speed. ⁢They are‌ more likely ‌to ‍use ⁢mobile payment apps like Venmo or Apple ⁤Pay, as well as⁢ contactless payment⁤ methods. On the other hand, ‌Baby​ Boomers tend‍ to prefer traditional payment methods such​ as credit cards or checks. Gen‍ Z, with their tech-savvy nature, are also embracing newer payment options like​ cryptocurrency.‍ By catering to these preferences, businesses​ can ensure they are meeting the needs of ⁣their diverse customer base.

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Insights into Millennials’ Payment Behavior

Millennials, as a generation, have ⁤significantly different payment behaviors compared to⁣ older generations. One key insight into Millennials’ payment ‌behavior ​is their preference for⁣ digital payment methods over‍ traditional methods. With the​ rise of technology, ⁣Millennials are more inclined to use mobile⁢ payment apps such as Venmo, PayPal, and Cash App‍ to ​make transactions conveniently and securely.

See also  How Businesses Can Adapt to the Growing Preference for Digital Payments

Another important aspect⁢ of Millennials’⁢ payment behavior is their emphasis on ethics and sustainability. Studies have shown that Millennials are more​ likely to support businesses that align with ‌their values, including eco-friendly‌ practices and social responsibility.​ This influences their ​payment choices, as they are⁣ more inclined​ to ⁢use payment ‌options that ‍promote​ ethical consumption, such⁤ as fair-trade products or ​donations to⁢ charitable causes.

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Baby ⁤Boomers vs Gen Z: Contrasting Payment Habits

When it comes⁣ to ⁤payment habits,​ Baby Boomers and Gen Z couldn’t be more different. ⁣Baby Boomers, born between 1946 and 1964, tend ‍to⁤ prefer traditional payment methods such as cash or checks. They ⁤are more cautious and tend to avoid online transactions for security⁤ reasons. On the other hand, Gen Z,‍ born ‌between ⁤1997 and 2012, ​is⁢ all ⁤about convenience and speed. They prefer digital ‌payment methods like mobile ‍wallets and contactless payments, ‌making transactions with ⁢just a tap‌ of their phone or card.

Another key ‍difference is how Baby Boomers and Gen⁢ Z approach credit cards. Baby ‌Boomers‌ are more likely to use credit cards​ sparingly and prefer⁤ to ⁣pay off their balances in full each month to avoid debt. In contrast, Gen Z is more ⁤comfortable with using credit​ cards for‍ everyday purchases and are more open ‌to taking advantage of rewards and cashback ⁢offers. This difference in mindset reflects their‍ approach to financial responsibility ‌and their⁣ views on debt.

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Tips for⁤ Businesses to Cater to ‌Generation-Specific​ Payment Preferences

When it‌ comes to​ catering⁢ to different generations, businesses need ‍to understand the payment ‍preferences of each age group. By ⁣acknowledging these ⁤differences and ‌adapting ⁣their ​payment methods accordingly, companies can attract a wider customer base and increase customer ‍satisfaction.

See also  The Influence of Payment Methods on Consumer Loyalty

Here are some :

Generation Z (born 1997-2012): Offer⁤ mobile⁢ payment options such as Apple Pay ​and ⁢Google Wallet to appeal to ⁢this‌ tech-savvy generation.

Millennials⁣ (born 1981-1996): Provide e-commerce options‍ and flexible payment plans, as ⁤this generation values convenience and affordability.

Generation X (born 1965-1980): Consider ⁤offering loyalty programs ⁤or rewards for ⁤frequent purchases,⁣ as this generation ‍appreciates personalization ⁢and incentives.

Baby Boomers (born 1946-1964): Make sure to accept ‍traditional payment ‌methods like cash⁢ and checks, ‌as this generation may be less comfortable ‌with digital transactions.

To Wrap It Up

And there you have‍ it​ – a glimpse into the fascinating world of ⁣generational differences in ⁣payment ​preferences. ‍Whether you’re a baby boomer who​ prefers carrying cash, ‍a Gen Xer‍ who loves using credit cards, or ‍a millennial who can’t live without⁢ mobile payments, understanding the unique preferences of each generation can ‍help ​businesses tailor their payment options to better ⁢serve their customers. ⁢So⁣ next time you’re ‍checking out at the store, take a ‍moment to consider⁤ how⁣ your payment ⁣choice ‌reflects the values and habits ‌of⁤ your generation. Happy ‍shopping!

[esoteriamaya]

Hello,

I would love to see what karma I have in my chart:

Thank you in advance. <3

Hey so this is my karmic astrology reading, and I want to start slow so you can understand a little of what I'm going to express on the topic.

First thing first, Karma in the chart can show hinderance and blockage, in the same breathe can show blessings and abundance for the individual. In remark to this account, we will start off with Saturns Karma, because it is the co-ruler of the theme in question.

Seeing that your Saturn is in the 8th house, finances, health related problems with the lower abdomen of the body, family relatives and allowances are a primary theme to how karma moves in your life.

The two placements you have connected to saturn (uranus and pluto) are connected to the second house and the third. The house of materials, financial stability, and income (2nd) vs the house of communication, hobbies, ideas, and journeys (3rd house) can show a karmic benefactor or something needing alignment.

I will not say if one is good or bad, just being neutral.

saturn is trine uranus

(good karmic associations with relatives much wiser and siblings if you have any) although absurd beliefs and structures were present in the lifetime with conversations around dollar bills and secretive information this talent of controlling the circumstance to work in your favor is dire. Reading in between receipts, dialogs, contracts etc. will be a focus in years to come and the details behind certain laws can be reconciled and worked into your favor. It'll be as if the laws will change around your circumstances, especially due to cultural shifts, and place you in the doorways of lucrative associations.

Ideas that are new school can be brought to a figure of authority and can help you climb the social ladder (8th) house a bit easier than you'd realize. Saturn and Uranus forming a trine brings excellent success in the area of communication, making deals and opening up to newer social regulations.

saturn oppose pluto

saturn opposing 2nd house pluto could mean lucrative businesses if you know how to handle the different power dynamics in entrepreneurship and growing with a certain belief in place for businesses to grow on their own. pluto being in the second house shows stability issues growing up, and needing to see a different perspective in values in order to appreciate the finer things in life (2nd house sag).

Overall saturns karmic factor is thru the 8th house of money and what helps shapes it is going against the grain (uranus) with your perspective (pluto/2nd) . Learning to relate to others (uranus 3rd) to get an understanding of them. In this case, learning to understand a much more mature approach, as well as an older generation (saturn) can help you form new ways into lucrative positions.

Saturn quincunx ascendant (4-5 degrees)

your presence carries an attitude of leadership thats being overlooked, and your shadow self hold the key to that answer. I'm still getting some attention from powerful figures because you have a gift that will spark a horizon of new eras coming in as saturn in gemini is connected to communication but in a way that is for gen z and gen z alone. It'll spread and trend easily due to the social media era we are in. Business ideas will have longevity tied to them. Hope this helps.

(lost in the drafts btw) hope u enjoy!

[taurianskies7]

Sometimes... you can really see the generational divide in how people accept societial changes through the pluto sign.

For ex: the whole Gen Z vs Millenials stuff in different issues plays into the archetype of Sagittarius vs Scorpio differences, and if online discourse wasn't the perfect place to observe this difference. Deep understanding and ways thoughts are filtered can really colour the worldview of what is "acceptable" and what is "needed", it's also funny to me about how younger gens tend to think they're better/more progressive (not stating that they are or they are not) than the older gens and the way the zodiacal order works is that often a sign after one is considered an "improvement" or "step up" from the previous sign. Since the sign before is the backbone and the sign after is the gains. I think it's really curious how the main disruption seems to come from the fixed pluto sign generations more often, and if the current young adult folks weren't as "Sagittarius" as they were, we probably wouldn't have seen so much in-your-face level of discussions and discourse.

Mutable signs are meant to clear things up for a newer stage, a new season, dipping the toes before jumping in the pool, I'm going to assume the more discussed and out there ideas that pluto in Sagittarius brought will properly solidify when pluto settles into the last fixed sign of the season, the "fixed", "collective", "unique" and "scientific" alienation of the sign removing any heated emotions to make way for concrete logical solutions in the general stage. Let's just hope.

[cartoonrants]

my theory on why older audiences don't like modern-day cartoons

if i were to walk up to any random kid at my high school and ask them about the cartoons they grew up with they would speak really highly of them on the other side of the coin when i ask them about newer cartoons they tend to say they’re bad kid shows that have been dulled down or aren’t as edgy as they used to be 

with the end of adventure time this has become more and more obvious, people suddenly being reminded that adventure time was a thing that they liked and feeling sad about it ending even though they haven’t watched the show in years and probably wouldn’t have ever watched it again obviously there isn’t a problem with feeling sad that a show you enjoyed as a kid but don’t watch anymore is ending my problem is with the way these people started acting toward modern day shows

obviously, if you stopped watching adventure time around season 4 (like most high schoolers did) and randomly picked up again at the season finale you’re gonna have some questions

why are Marcy and PB kissing instead of Finn and PB???

who the hell is betty???

why is ice king a human???

who are these gum people??

what the hell happened to Finn's arm???

and so many more reasonable questions

what i didn’t appreciate is the way these people started a new wave of hating modern cartoons in place of learning anything about them

more than ever I’ve seen people talking about the fall of children’s entertainment saying it’s not as good, and it’s only aimed at children and adults can’t enjoy it like they used to be able to. they claim that with the end of adventure time so dies the children’s entertainment industry

now i love cartoons from the 90s and early 2000s just as much as the next person if not more but these cartoons are no better than modern-day shows

obviously there are going to be shows that aren’t as good at entertaining a more grown-up audience shows like teen titans go, Clarence, uncle grandpa, and the majority of modern nick toons (excluding the loud house) aren’t very popular with older audiences for a reason but shows like steven universe, star vs. the forces of evil, Voltron, she ra, the amazing world of gumball and so many more cartoons are excellent examples of modern-day cartoons that can appeal to older audiences but they still get hate from people claiming cartoons aren't as good as they used to be

but what is it about these shows that makes them seem bad to the newly grown generation??? 

this is where i belive nostalgia kicks shows like regular show, adventure time, and avatar the last Airbender are some of the most talked about cartoons when discussing good old cartoons that gen z enjoyed and i doubt that anyone reading this is gonna argue that these aren't BOMB shows i mean ive seen them all, all the way through more than a few times but the fact that these shows are good isn't what made older generations that don't like the shows now like them 

the reason these people liked them was THEY WERE KIDS they enjoy these shows and think highly of these shows because they watched them when they were young if they were to watch modern day cartoons at a younger age they would probably have the same opinion so why do people feel the need to hate on a show that they probably would've enjoyed had they been born a little later?

that takes me to my next point the reason these people think modern day cartoons suck is cause *drumroll* they've grown out of cartoons, sometimes when you surround yourself with more grownup content that's filled with violence, gore, and sex its harder to come back to the innocence that surrounds the child entertainment industry even if the show has deeper darker themes you have trouble enjoying something that lacks shock and is just a simply good show

when people are exposed to mature content they become numb to the shock value and start to expect it instead of being surprised by it so if you have been watching shows where any and all conflict is solved by gory bloody violence you're gonna have trouble watching star narwal blast her enemies away or if you've been watching shows where all of the humor is rated R you're not gonna losing breath over lemongrab asking PB to unmake him 

so, in conclusion, the idea that the modern day cartoons lack some secret edgy ingredient or some dark theme that made them entertaining to older generations isn't true they are still entertaining, dark, and interesting what's changed is the people and what they find entertaining so maybe if you find yourself thinking that cartoons aren't as good as they used to be watch a new one you might find yourself pleasantly surprised 

[savegraduation]

On maturity and blaming the rebel

When I was perusing the NYRA Youth Rights Discussion group on Facebook the other day, Nightvid Cole posted something that really blew me away:

When a parent lashes out by hitting a child in response to something the child says, it is "corporal punishment", but when a child does exactly the same to a parent for exactly the same reason, it is a "temper tantrum". This doublethink is precisely what is so wrong about the concept of "maturity" -- it is essentially defined to pre-suppose that the parent or adult is objectively correct no matter what simply because they are the adult. Therefore, using "immaturity" as an excuse for depriving the young of rights is often just circular reasoning in disguise. If this example seems silly, note that a very similar double standard has been used to deny teens the right to refuse medical treatment, as for example in the case of Cassandra C., the Connecticut teen who lost the legal battle to avoid forced chemotherapy. She was considered "immature" by the judge, largely because she ran away from home to avoid forced chemotherapy. But the entire idea that "running away from home" is "immature" rather than "assertive" when faced with a forced invasion of basic bodily autonomy, is the same type of self-serving adultist doublethink as the distinction between "corporal punishment" and "temper tantrums", except at a much higher level.

This is why I think that youth liberationists should question the concept of "maturity" rather than simply arguing that all or some youth are "mature". When you live in a world where you are forced to live by decisions made on your behalf without your input, it is only natural that you would sometimes behave in ways that are outside the bounds of the social norms that were put in place by the oppressor class. Using that as an attempt to justify unequal rights is one giant Catch 22 -- and the individuals doing this are guilty of participating in a dehumanizing disregard for the position of the oppressed.

Now, this is a great insight, and I'd like to discuss this some more. Circular arguments are grist for the mill of ageists. They will argue, for instance, both "You shouldn't have any legal rights because you're still in K-12 school", and "You need to attend school because you don't have any legal rights". Or the variation: "Teens need to stay in school because they don't have the life experience to choose otherwise", and "Teens don't have enough life experience because they're still in school". They will tell their children both "You have to follow my rules because you live in my house", and "You have to live in my house because you have to follow my rules". They'll say, "Children shouldn't swear, because profanity is inappropriate", but also "Those words are inappropriate because children might hear and learn them". (If the only thing wrong with those words is that children might learn them, rather than something inherently evil about those words, then what's the big deal if children learn and use the F-word or the SH-word?) Some will even argue "We need compulsory education because some parents are abusive fascists who try to indoctrinate their kids with KKK values", but also "Parents need to have the power to make whatever strict rules for their kids they feel are appropriate, because otherwise how would they make sure their kids go to school and do their homework?"

If you google the word "immature", the dictionary that pops up will provide to you the definition: "having or showing an emotional or intellectual development appropriate to someone younger". When lexicographers are forced to find a definition for "immature", all they come up with is acting the way younger people act and thinking the way younger people think.

Firstly, it is awfully presumptuous to say that something is "bad" or undesirable because younger people do or believe it. Today, teens are less likely than fiftysomethings to be homophobic, or even to believe that homosexuality is morally wrong. A 2018 Pew poll found that Millennials (born 1979-2004) are less likely than Xers (born 1964-1978), Jonesers (born 1958-1963), Boomers (born 1943-1957), or Silents (born 1925-1942) to consider global warming unsupported by science, or merely natural rather than anthropogenic. (The Pew Poll used somewhat different generational boundaries from me, defining Silents as 1928-1945, Boomers as 1946-1964, Xers as 1965-1980, Millennials as 1981-1996, and "Generation Z" as starting in 1997. I'm not down with breaking late Millennials off as "Gen Z" -- the real change starts in 2005 with the birth of those too young to remember life before the Crash of 2008, which changed the zeitgeist more fundamentally than 9/11, and even then the name "Generation Z" is derivative of "Generation X" and then "Generation Y" (a much worse name than "Millennials"; "Generation Y" sounds like a linearly progressing extreme version of Generation X). I call the kids born 2005 to today the Fifth World Generation, because most of them have their first memories of the world during the Fifth World, as per the Mayan calendar.)

In fact, if one looks at the generational conflicts over the course of history, one sees the pattern that it has been the older generation that was in the wrong and the younger generation that was in the right, for everything from the Vietnam War (Boomers vs. the Greatest Generation (born 1911-1924)) to the emancipation of African-American slaves (the Transcendental Generation (born 1792-1821) vs. the Republican Generation (born 1742-1766)). When kids are 4, 5, 6, they have the ability to question authority and think positively of other people, without becoming leery of outgroups. Thirtysomethings, twentysomethings, teens, and even children have led new social movements, including such movements of today as Black Lives Matter, March for Our Lives, Antifa, the Battle for Seattle, Occupy Wall Street, the Global Climate Strike, the Free the Music movement, Boobquake, and, yes, the youth rights movement.

Youth rights opponents like to use the argument that youth have brains that have "not finished developing", but if they believe that, then shouldn't they support the ideas that under25s have, since their brains are supposedly still malleable enough to be open to new ideas whereby people can see injustices and systemic problems to which previous generations were blind? When the Interbellum Generation (born 1901-1910) was young, they wore T-shirts as outerwear and their young women smoked (smoking was viewed as a male activity at the time, and society believed T-shirts should be undershirts only). Interbellumers had sit-down strikes to fight for the labor reforms of the Great Depression, and often became Communists, socialists, or anarchists. When the Interbellum Generation became middle-aged, they were still accepting of women smoking, T-shirts, and leftist economics, but the Old Left couldn't handle the even newer innovations of the New Left: gay rights, cohabitation, interracial dating and marriage, miniskirts. Today the same Boomers who were, and are still, perfectly fine with blue jeans, Black boys dating White girls, the Rolling Stones, and couples living together before marriage are shuddering at music piracy, sexting, JUUL, suffrage for 16-year-olds, and non-binary teens who ask to be called "they" or "zie".

Secondly, this kind of circular thinking and concern with "maturity" and "life experience" creates a vicious circle. Because teens are believed by society to lack maturity, current laws abrogate the right to make most decisions, even simple decisions like what clothes kids may wear, to the parents, hold parents responsible for keeping their kids safe, and even punish parents for their minor children's misdeeds (punishing Person A for the wrongdoing of Person B is unspeakably wrong, but that's a topic for another day). Because of this, parents then say, "I'm responsible for my child until s/he is an adult", and become very circumspect about whom they allow their kid to see and where they allow their kid to go. They micromanage what courses their kid takes at school and how their kid spends his or her time. This helicopter parenting then creates learned helplessness and infantilized kids ("learned helplessness" and "infantilization" are two hot words within the youth rights community). These helpless overgrown babies are then made into Exhibit A as evidence that today's teens "aren't mature enough" to be trusted with even basic and essential "adult" rights, like, oh, getting vaccinated even though their parents don't want them to. Reasoning in circles correlates with vicious circles.

Thirdly, it is too easy to fall into the fallacy I call "blaming the rebel". Ageist adults will see a teen, or a whole generation of teens, filled with angst or righteous indignation about school uniforms, or a curfew, or gestapo parents who won't let their sons be (platonic) friends with girls, and then said ageists will latch on to the emotionally charged rage, the righteous tone, the subsequent disobedience which they've come to believe is always "irresponsible", and they'll argue, "If teens react like this to something adults believe is in their best interest, these hysterical, petulant, irresponsible kids don't deserve rights".

But what if those restrictions on teens didn't exist, and teens enjoyed all the same legal rights and socially recognized freedoms as 35-year-olds (recall the vicious circle mentioned above)? Then that angst and those "petulant" behaviors would not exist, and there would go ageist adults' argument for why teens don't deserve rights. In his Scientific American article "The Myth of the Teen Brain", psychologist Robert Epstein explains how for most of human history and in hunter-gatherer societies into the present day, people Anglophones would call "teen-agers" were simply young members of the adult community; juvenile delinquency and teen angst are nonexistent problems in those societies. Epstein writes:

Even more significant, a series of long-term studies set in motion in the 1980s by anthropologists Beatrice Whiting and John Whiting of Harvard University suggests that teen trouble begins to appear in other cultures soon after the introduction of certain Western influences, especially Western-style schooling, television programs and movies. Delinquency was not an issue among the Inuit people of Victoria Island, Canada, for example, until TV arrived in 1980. By 1988 the Inuit had created their first permanent police station to try to cope with the new problem.

As a matter of fact, the uppity behavior of young people ias been used before as an argument against affording teens new rights that people now take for granted. Back in the sixties and seventies, when Boomers were fighting to get the voting age lowered from 21 to 18 because of the draft in Vietnam, the old guard leveraged the unrest among college students as an argument that 18-year-olds weren't mature enough to vote. Stuart Goldstein, who fought to lower the voting age in New Jersey to 18, said: "It was kind of an uphill battle for us trying to convince people young people were responsible, because it was an era when, from a national political point of view, the national leaders were pitting young against old. Our thing was, 'We're going to try and work within the system.' There was all this tumult going on across the country. We didn't think that would help us convince people that they should lower the voting age." And yet 18-year-olds got the vote not long thereafter, and have been using it well.

Blaming the rebel has been done not only to youth, but also to other oppressed groups throughout history. In 1851, Samuel A. Cartwright, a physician who practiced in antebellum Mississippi and Louisiana, posited a mental disorder called drapetomania. He identified drapetomania as a mental illness whereby Black slaves would run away from their masters, attempting to become free. Cartwright wrote that this was the result of masters who "made themselves too familiar with [slaves], treating them as equals". (That line makes me flinch, because it reminds me a little too much of the "Be a parent, not a pal" line directed towards permissive parents today.) This was an argument levied against granting freedom to African-Americans, as if it were innate to the Black race to "irresponsibly" disobey. Today, virtually all Americans realize that fleeing slavery was only a perfectly proper response to humans being legally treated as someone's property, and would find the idea that Black people are somehow undeserving of the right to be free by virtue of their Blackness to be preposterous.

Also, are you really so sure we would not see rage, uprising, even tantrums, if an age restriction were imposed on Boomers today? Howe & Strauss attribute to Boomers a tendency to be idealistic, impassioned, quick to anger, emotional, easily outraged. A recent comment on the NYRA Youth Rights Discussion group put it so well: "If all age restrictions were applied at both ends of standard 'adulthood' we would see much less of this shit. Boomers would fume if they couldn't buy alcohol after age 52."

Would this fuming be proof that sexagenarians were unworthy of the right to drink, vote, drive, sign contracts, or make their own medical decisions?

I say no. What say you?