#Odysseus is not okay
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Dolled up and depressed Odysseus for the win
So uhh, yeah, I took this idea and ran with it
To be honest I just wanted to draw him in flowy fabric and all pretty… but yeah, as much as I love Ody being a sopping wet stray, I like him dolled up too <3
Some design notes:
I did some brief research (from credible sources) of Ancient Greek fashion to make his Ogygia design
What he’s wearing is a chiton (the white tunic/shirt he’s wearing) that is under a himation (the big ass blanket wrap lol) which is often how kings/upper class are depicted. These clothings are often decorated well with elaborate designs (the shells on the himation, the beading+shells to have the weight rest nicely over the body, etc.)
The rest of the embellishments like his laurel crown, collar/necklace, and bracers are inspired the descriptions in ‘Time’s Curse’ by ‘mydnyteraven’ on AO3 (check it out!) (also: during the cliff scene in ‘Love in Paradise’ will probably include him tearing off the jewelry out of anger, frustration, etc.)
I believe in at least one of my sources they said that Greeks often stayed barefoot when they’re home so… Calypso probably forces him to be barefoot
He has super long hair! Seven years is a long time! And Calypso probably prefers playing with his hair and braiding it and braiding flowers into it even though Ody doesn’t like it (and he will probably get a dramatic scene of chopping his hair off, Mulan-style)
Calypso put him in ‘her’ colors! (I’ve always imagined Ody to be blue-coded) showing, once more, the lack of control he has
His Ogygia clothes are much more fancy/gaudy than he’s used to, his clothing much more on par with a god’s! Ithaca (as far as I know) is a modest kingdom and thus, he wore modest clothing even as a king and he’s never wanted to wear more than that
It was a pretty long process to get him to this point, he clung to his rags until he physically couldn’t (or Calypso forced him) and he was just gradually forced to keep compromising until it wasn’t worth it to fight her
And that’s all I could think of so I hope you all appreciate my thoughts on this concept <3
I know people really like disheveled Odysseus but like, wouldn't it be worse if during his stay at calypso's island he's the most cleaned up and groomed he's ever been during his voyage. His hair is long and silky smooth, his beard is trimmed, his clothes are pristine and hang nicely from his body. Calypso treats him like a prized possession, and how could she possibly let it (her pet? her toy?) get unkempt and scruffy? Idk something about him having a complete lack of agency and no choice in even the way he looks and his stay in a supposed paradise reflecting on his person
#epic the musical fanart#epic the musical#epic odysseus#love in paradise#epic wisdom saga#epic calypso#ancient greek#greek mythology#character design#concept art#I guess#??? idk#the odyssey#ody’s eyes are a dull green#headcanon#they used to be green or hazel pre-Athena#then they were grey bc of her blessing/influence#when he lost her favor they slowly reverted back to green#but they’re still dull due to anime logic depression#Odysseus is not okay
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isn't it like canonical that penelope was (and still is) a gorgeous pretty beautiful wowza lady and odysseus was just some eepy raccoon when they first met
#he loves his wife very much okay#the odyssey#odysseus#penelope#epic the musical#epic the wisdom saga#epic the musical fanart#jorge rivera herrans
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*after the events of the odyssey*
*telemachus and odysseus walking down to the docks, after odysseus said he'd go sailing with his son*
(listen the man had missed 20 years of his son's life, he could ask ody to dress in drag & do the hula and odysseus would already be shouting "LUAU" in a grass skirt before tele finished his sentence)
telemachus: i'm so excite- *looks ahead*
telemachus: *stops walking* oh no *sad noises*
odysseus: *still walking* what's wrong son?
telemachus: *points to the sea beyond ithaca's shores* poseidon must be angry today, look at the storm in the distance
odysseus: *looks ahead but without worry on his face* no need to worry, we can still go sailing, follow me
telemachus: *confused but follows his dad*
*both make it to the docks*
odysseus: you get started, i've just got something to do & then i'll join you on the ship
*telemachus hops on the ship and odysseus turns to face the sea*
odysseus: *red eyes activate* i'm. going. sailing. with . my. son.
*the sea storm dissipates in record speed*
odysseus: good.
odysseus: *red eyes deactivate*
odysseus: *turns to telemachus smiling like nothing happened* shall we go then?
telemachus: *happy but very confused*
telemachus: *mumbling to himself*what just happened?
#if you listen closely you could hear a whimper from the sea the minute ody activated divine rage#nothing will stop him spending time with his son#poseidon: see the storm has gone! ... please don't stab me#athena is back in the palace with penelope#weaving a new tapestry (family photo) together#odysseus epic#poseidon epic#telemachus#epic the musical#epic: the musical#crack#it came to me in a dream okay#epic the musical spoilers#epic spoilers#?#is it spoilers?#i don't wanna be yelled at so i'll put spoilers
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Hermes said “remember every trick in your domain for this” thinking Odysseus would be tricky, and forgot that Odysseus is also a fighter and woke up choosing violence
#Okay yes he did try and be peaceful first#But also he resorted to extreme violence#Epic the musical#Epic the vengeance saga#hermes#odysseus#six hundred strike
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Athena calling odysseus and telemachus her friends and saying she can't sleep at night after how she handled things?!?!!?!?!?!
#screaming crying throwing up#odysseus' words in my goodbye have been haunting her all these years I AM NOT OKAY 😭😭😭#epic the musical spoilers#epic the musical#odysseus#the odyssey#epic#homer#homeric epics#tagamemnon#athena#epic athena#the wisdom saga#wisdom saga spoilers
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I'm just a girl in the sense odysseus sings "I'm just a man" in epic the musical while commiting war crimes
#im just a girl#odysseus#ancient greece#epic musical#epic the musical#the odyssey#polites#cyclops#poseidon#athena deity#hermes#zeus#the prophet speaks#musicals#aeolus#hadestown#hamilton musical#alexander hamilton#heathers#six the musical#dear evan hansen#beetlejuice#ummm#how many tags is too many tags#okay bye
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ahh elizabeth vandiver's lectures pointing out a heartbreaking moment in the odyssey i wasn't even aware of:
telemachus addresses eumaeus the swineherd as atta (ἄττα). in my fagles edition it's translated as "old friend", but as vandiver points out, atta has two meanings: it can be used as a familiar-but-respectful form of address to an older man (which is how telemachus uses it), but significantly it's also baby-talk for "father", parallel to papa/dada. it's what telemachus WOULD have called odysseus growing up, but now telemachus refers to him as xenos, a visiting stranger/foreigner.
like imagine. odysseus is in disguise as a beggar, it's the first time he's seen his son since infancy, and one of the first things he hears telemachus say, to another man, is "daddy, who is this stranger?"
#it's the switched roles! the topsy turvy conditions that have developed at ithaca in odysseus' absence#okay technically he asks 'from where does this stranger come to visit you' but he is ESSENTIALLY asking for his identity#and like of course it's wonderful that telemachus knows to trust and look out for eumaeus who is a really good person#eumaeus greets him with kisses like a father when odysseus can't#and odysseus does not act jealous of their bond but. how clear the loss of that time together IS at that moment#tagamemnon#the odyssey#odysseus#telemachus#eumaeus
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And your dreams, my Telemachus, are blameless
#odysseus#telemachus#greek mythology#tagamemnon#the odyssey#art#digital art#sketch#classicstober i see you. but a guy has to draw his faves sometimes okay.
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achaean nap pile
#art#sketch#greek mythology#tagamemnon#cracks knuckles okay#top row left to right#nestor#ajax the greater#teucer#idomeneus#bottom row left to right#agamemnon#menelaus#patroclus#achilles#odysseus#ajax the lesser#diomedes#the iliad
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Thinking about how Telemachus has heard "You are just like your father" by so many people for most of his life. How different yet refreshing it is to hear said father tell him warmly "You're so much like your mother".
#Idk something about how he's just as much Penelope's son as he is Odysseus'. And how people just focus on his missing father#And Odysseus. the dad he's often compared to. says something entirely differnt.#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus#my headcanons#penelope of ithaca#telemachus#odysseus#idk I'm fightin a fever right now :') I'm very sure this isn't even grammatically correct but yahoo!#epic the musical#odyssey#the odyssey#tagamemnon#I don't plan to write Penelope comparing him much to his dad often. She only does so when Tele wants/needs to hear it.#She realizes “okay. you're trying too hard to be in your dad's shadow. you're Telemachus first. you're our legacy second.”#he's still affected by others' talk though ;~; (grandparents used to call him the wrong name and such
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Do you know what breaks my heart?
Knowing that Odysseus probably still feels so guilty he can barely breathe, he's just suppressing it and filling the void with Penelope.
That's why she's finally showing up more plainly in this second part because Odysseus needs to believe that something will be worth all the guilt and all the suffering and that something is Penelope.
That's why she sings that she "will take the suffering" from him, because that's his hope, that's what he needs to believe because otherwise, it was all in vain.
And you know what's even worse?
Even if he does reach Ithaca, and even if he does have his "happy ending" (which I have no idea if it'll happen because I never read The Odyssey but I know enough about Greek Mythology and tragedies that I don't think so), it'll not be happy.
It'll be so bittersweet it makes my heart ache in ways I can't even bear.
I imagine Odysseus will never be able to swim with Telemachus and Penelope again, even if it's just a river, because he'd not know to differentiate between siren Penelope and real Penelope then.
I imagine he will never be able to look at his sister the same knowing that he caused her husband's death and so will she.
I imagine he will have to face his other men, who will know (or so Odysseus will think) that he sacrificed several of them to be there again.
I imagine he will have to discover all over again how to be a father to teenager Telemachus who doesn't even remember what is like to have a father, let alone see Odysseus as one.
I imagine if he will ever sleep in peace again, fearing that the gods will find him there once and for all.
I'm not crying, you are!
#i'm not okay#epic the circe saga#epic the underworld saga#epic the thunder saga#epic the musical#the thunder saga#the circe saga#odysseus#penelope#telemachus#the odyssey#i'm not sorry#but#i'm crying#i'm not ready#i'm not crying you're crying#jorge rivera herrans#greek myths#greek mythology#greek gods
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Ummm, so.
Because some sources say that Hermes brings good luck--- what if there's actual significance to him wishing Odysseus luck at the end of both "Wouldn't You Like" and "Dangerous" ?
Instead of Hermes teasing him or being playful, it's Hermes actually offering Odysseus a blessing of good fortune for those two battles.
And, in that case, it should also be noted that Odysseus WINS both fights.
#epic the musical#Hermes#Odysseus#Hermes & Odysseus#coincidence!? I think- yes probably lolol#let me play with the idea though bc I like it#epic the vengeance saga#I love the idea of Hermes giving Odysseus a little cheat code of luck#Athena's like 'Hermes. He HAS to strategize okay??'#And Hermes is like 'yes yes I know darling I know...BUT I'm gonna have him win with luck'#Athena banging her own head against a wall
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wait odysseus is suicidal wait he was really gonna end his life the way he ended the infant’s wait the only people who’ve called him ody are those who hurt him badly/betrayed him wait “let me close my eyes” parallels penelope and telemachus begging him to “keep your eyes open” wait wait calypso was trying to talk him down and “stay in my open arms” unintentionally triggered the memories/hauntings of polites, eurylochus, his mom, etc wait wait athena held baby telemachus wait wait athena is dead?? wait wait wait
#my current thoughts on the lastest saga:#aka no thoughts only trauma and anguish#what just happened#i am in utter shambles#no wonder why the stream crashed midway through love in paradise so did i#i’m not okay guys#epic the musical#does the prechorus to legendary remind anyone of full speed ahead or just me#epic the musical spoilers#epic wisdom saga#wisdom saga#spoilers#epic the musical odysseus#epic odysseus#epic the musical telemachus#epic telemachus#epic the musical athena#epic athena#epic calypso#epic the musical calypso#epic the musical penelope#epic penelope#tw sui#tw suicide#tw suicide mention
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there are two wolves inside you
the first is you looking/listening in horror at odysseus eviscerating poseidon with his own trident
the second is you hearing poseidon/steven's screams and going "ayo why does he/this sound so good"
#listen it made my brain tingle okay#it was also past 3am and i was extremely tired#i'm like ody ok#poseidon's screams are music to my ears#but also ouch that's gotta hurt real bad to make a god scream#poseidon epic#poseidon epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga spoilers#epic the musical spoilers#epic the vengeance saga#epic the musical#epic: the vengeance saga#epic: the musical#epic odysseus
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could I request a little ody with penelope, or perhaps diomedes?
love ur art and ur gravity falls x odyssey au is fascinating to me, how did that happen?
how about all 3 :)
As for the GF x Odyssey AU, if you’re asking how that collision of ideas happened in my brain…uh it’s because I’m mentally ill and my current fixations are Gravity Falls and Epic/The Odyssey 😁 (if you meant something else…uhh then idk what you mean by that question if it’s not the one I answered haha)
#doctorsiren#the odyssey#epic the musical#odysseus of ithaca#penelope of ithaca#diomedes of argos#odypen#odydio#diopen#odypendio#yes okay way too many names /silly#digital art#my art#procreate#doodle requests#I actually love drawing art of poly relationships bc it allows for close character interactions between more than 2 people#it’s fun to do imo#if your question was how did Odysseus and Bill meet#I made a post about that last night actually and that was the first post for this thing haha
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Circe, Witch of Aiaia
I have drawn Circe so many times and i've finally settle on a design that is largely different but I like a lot
#on that note who the fuck thought Aiaia was a good name#it sounds like an asian parent when they look at your report car and see an A-#aiyahh repeated twice#like what were they doing#"I've created this cool character she's a witch and she's part of Odysseussy's journey!#okay Homer where does she live?#Uhhh Aiaiaiaiiaiaiaiaiaia#Oh Aiaia? Smart#...yeah#epic the circe saga#odyseussy#circe#circe saga#epic the musical#odysseus#the odyssey
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