#ORV is also what got me into fanfics so

[ohitslen]

My favorite pieces of media are Trigun, Monster, Princess Tutu, Strangers From Hell, Link Click, Beyond Evil, the webtoon Guardians of the Videogame and Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint

It’s a very elaborated way of saying I choose to make myself depressed and being gay is also a choice

[crystaljellie]

Having so many ORV AU thoughts but not having the time to write them all is so tragic

But I can't be the only one who knows of my ORV x MHA AU so I'm gonna ramble about what I have here!!

Before I start any proper ramblings about the AU here is a small intro that I wrote for the AU when I originally intended to make it a fanfic!!

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Yoo Joonghyuk was a man I had always envied. I had spent my childhood years with him, the formative years in which had shaped me as a person. No, with him isn’t right. It’s more so I had spent those years watching him, the strongest kid in class, the most admired the most feared. Yoo Joonghyuk was a shining example of what all parents wished their kids would be, most could overlook his frosty attitude in favour of his quirk.

Yoo Joonghyuk’s quirk was, far from normal. There wasn’t any other quirk like it in recorded history. There were so many different facets to it, with so many skills and abilities he could unlock as he “levelled up” his quirk. It was uncanny, it was almost as if he was the protagonist of some sort of RPG. So that’s what they named his quirk, “Protagonist.”

There was only one other person who had a quirk even remotely similar to Yoo Joonghyuk. And unfortunately, it was me. I can’t say it helped with my envy of him. His “Protagonist” quirk versus my “Bookmark” quirk it was clear which one was superior. In this type of society, a quirk that could copy other people’s quirks was commonly looked down upon, and classified as a villain's quirk. So that was the way I was treated for most of my life, as the villain counterpart to Yoo Joonghyuk’s righteous hero. And because of that, I envied him.

Of course, bookmark itself wasn’t the only part of my quirk. But I hadn’t yet been aware of it myself, the fourth wall. My quirk was really a quirk that could only be utilised by a reader.

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Okay!! So now with that out of the way let me get into explaining their quirks!

Joonghyuk's Quirk is basically how his skills function in ORV because I think he deserves to be overpowered, of course, he doesn't have his regression stigma nor does he have a sponsor constellation. He unlocks more of his skills the further he progresses in his training or during significant events during his life. The skills he has access too are accessible on a videogame screen just like in ORV it's like a skill tree

Dokja's Bookmark quirk though is slightly different, because Bookmark works the way it does in ORV as does fourth wall but bookmark isn't part of Fourthwall they are separate quirks, I still haven't decided how he got the second quirk I'm working on that (and if anyone has any ideas let me know).

Sooyoung's quirk is where I branch out from the ORV versions slightly more, basically she's really good at lying, that's not her quirk but it works with her quirk, in short its like anything she can convince other people is true manifests into reality!! It doesn't have to be spoken either, if she can convince someone a drawing is actually a photo or a fiction book is actually factual then that works too.

The drawbacks for most peoples (ORV) quirks are the probability effects, for example, the more outside the realm of reality Sooyoung's lies are the more she physically suffers from it to the point it could result in death.

I think Heewon deserves to be able to infuse all her weapons with fire and that's her quirk, but I also want the fire to be golden because I also think she deserves that

The kids are just beast and insect tamers respectively and I have no other ideas for them I'm sorry :(

Lee Jihye can control the ocean but with the rule that she can only do this while she is standing on a sea vessel, I like to imagine that she controls the ocean like shes puppeteering it, using strings and all that

Lee Hyunsung is kind of like TetsuTetsu which is kind of sad to me I think he deserves more, so I think he can not only reinforce himself with steel but anything he touches (and that he wills) so he's like the ultimate defense guy ever.

Mia's quirk I have actually pulled from another fanfic I'm writing for her which is ORV from her perspective- not the point anyways she has a bubble pop quirk as I like to call it forms a protective bubble around her and pops sending people flying when someone touches it. I also think she would have slight healing abilities shes Yoo Joonghyuks sister she can be overpowered too she deserves it.

(Still working on Sangah and Seolhwas quirks as long with some of the constellations they have me stumped :( )

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In terms of plot I want it to be pretty different from the MHA plot, like I'd keep the LOV and AFO but class 1-A and maybe Aizawa too are all replaced with the ORV cast, so dynamics are really different leading to a lot of different events. And KDJ and YJH have a massive rivalry even though they both deny to anyone who asks that they have a rivalry (just like how deny they have crushes on each other but again not the point)

Was even thinking of maybe having a plot arc where Mia gets kidnapped and meets the other kids (Jihye, Gilyoung and Yoosung) and they don't have family so when either Mia breaks them out or the heroes come get them she just forces her brother to adopt them all or they get adopted by the school faculty.

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Anyways that is all the thought I have on that AU so far :3 I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on it

[tama-fighting-artblock]

lmaooooooooo CM is really boarding the struggle bus! I could practically hear his heart attack at the word /love/. Your TB has a crush on SWK au is captivating. Maybe that drunken argument could lead to CM becoming TB's beta reader? *why not both gif*

Hear me out: a crossover between this au and Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint. CM reads Journey To The West to prove TB wrong and becomes TB's beta reader anyway. He wants to hang out with TB, but he's still a SWK hater, tangcheong write themselves into being small time demons gunning for SWK, etc.

tangcheong write that fanfic for so long that they get really good at it (maybe TB decides to rewrite the beginning parts that he's unhappy with the quality of at some point or readers get to see the style shift). The fanfic is so good and so long that it gets a huge fanbase and enters the cultural consciousness of the gangho* and gets tied to their mythos just like their accomplishments as the Dark Saint, Plum Blossom Sword Saint, and Divine Dragon.

tangcheong have enough stories that they come back and ascend as constellations when the scenarios start. But the thing is, all versions of stories and characters become true if someone or something gets popular to become a constellation. So now TB and CM actually are a part of Sun Wukong 's stories, and actually have to fight him in some scenarios.

So CM isn't jealous because of TB's character crush anymore. He's jealous because TB's got a celebrity crush on what is basically their coworker, who he can't even beat in a 1v1 fight. At least CM can marry TB if he didn't before and CM's loved ones from both of his lives can hang out together...in a torment nexus gauntlet. Yay? Well, I believe in their chances of survival.

*I think that gangho is the murim equivalent of the jianghu but my bad if I got it wrong 😔

Well I have to say is a pretty nice concept you have there. I'm so glad to see people taking a silly concept and develop something from it! 🥰

However, I'm not familiar with ORV, and it's lore to provide and insight, and sadly my interest died when I realized how profound is that rabbit hole when it's story wasn't my cup of tea to begin with. However! I am interested in whatever you have to say about it! (specially when it comes to Bo simping over Wukong!!!)

That being said @chuliann (who happens to know about orv better than I do) is the person I've been talking with about the silly Sun/Tang/Chung drama. And they think you're a genius! And they wanted me to tell you that!

We would love to hear more about it, if you come up with new ideas♥️

All I can provide is a bit more info about Sun wukong, since I'm currently reading journey to the west, and being watching some adaptations recently:

Sun Wukong is, to some degree, like a child despite his high intelligence, he gets excited and jump out of joy, he's very impulsive and confrontative. He's like a more friendly version of Chung Myung (with a friendly approach). He likes being recognized. He gets excited when being assigned task like taking care of the stables or watch over the peaches, but takes great offense when he's diminished. As well, he was very enthusiastic about serving Tang Sanzang in his journey until he reprimanded wukong for attacking some bandids.

Wukong can be genuinely adorable, but also frightening. Of course. Hes not naturally mean spirited with people. So, belive me, if Tang Bo approach Wukong and tries to befriend him being honest, he'll be just like Tang Bō.

A passage I really like is wukong asking for a needle after his first bath to properly sew a piece of leather he previously got. Stealing a piece of cloth from Tang sanzang that he forgot to put back on, and then going back to him and walked all around asking if he looks good now.

Adorable!

[victimsofyaoipoll]

Round 1

Propaganda Under Cut

Han Sooyoung

han sooyoung is one of the main trio protagonists yet people constantly ignore her in order to ship the other two males despite the fact that they are all doomed by the narrative TOGETHER!!! fanon content is even worse because it either slaps a lesbian sticker onto her to shittily write her off in fanfic OR they make her so one dimensional its like a cardboard stand in. han sooyoung arguably has a more important/interesting dynamic with the main male protagonist yet everyone ignores her because they want their uwu gay babies IM SO SICK OF ORV FANS

Dokja and Joonghyuk are a very popular ship (rightfully so, i get it) but usually Sooyoung is seen as in the way of their relationship or not as valued as the other two even though her place in the story and relationship with the other characters is just as strong. Recently there was a post on twitter being rude about people who ship her and Joonghyuk (which is a super valid ship) and i saw a lot of hate that i believe just stems from her getting “in the way” of a yaoi ship. 

99% of that kind of symbolic fanart REFUSES. to acknowledge her existence man. even though she is part of the main TRIO man

Shinoa Hiiragi

The fandom hated her for getting in the way of Mika/Yuu (she had a crush on yuu). The rare times they didn’t hate her they made her into a fujoshi obsessed with shipping them which isn’t in character at all. In fact if you look at the owari no seraph specials she would ship yuu with kimizuki but no one even cares

One of my favorite characters ever forever and treated heinously by crazed fujoshis that hallucinated she was getting in the way of MikaYuu, which for the record she wasn’t! I mean even if she WAS getting between them it wouldn’t justify the crazy misogyny that got thrown at her but she had a ONE-SIDED CRUSH on Yuu. He didn’t even like her back. What was the issue, then? An unrequited crush is not going to prevent a relationship! Whatever I haven’t even told you about her. She’s Silly. She’s incredibly cunning and a great leader, in fact she is the leader of the anime’s main squad. She’s calculating. She’s a gossip and a prankster and a bit flirty and a bit mean-spirited and she presents herself in a Silly Goofy way, in part to cover up the amounts of angst in her backstory, like my girl has ISSUES. She even has an epic demon weapon that is better and cooler than most other demon weapons but if you ask any fangirl from way-back-when, she’s just a bitch and the personification of evil. and probably homophobic too, even though she has a girl rival-turned-friend which is the gayest trope out there. 

She seems to be the (male) protagonist's love interest and appears to be canonically in love with him, but he is not interested in her whatsoever, often brushing her off and dismissing her in favor of thinking about his found family instead. I don't necessarily ship him romantically with any other male character (i hc him as aroace) but by god the anime was extremely charged with homoromantic subtext in every corner. One of those "holding each other's faces in the opening, spends the entire first season pining and wishing to be reunited" types. The fandom ships her love interest with another male character to the extent that I started watching the show in the first place because i kept seeing ship posts of the main character with that other guy thought they were cute. And also i cannot fucking stand her personality and want to light her on fire. I think the rest of the fandom agrees with me but I'm honestly not sure. I'm also a gay man so i think you could argue that I, the submitter, could play the role of the "yaoi" terrorising her as well

[archangel-jophiel]

interfering finalis stella | orv x oc fanfic

summary: [So, how can I get you to read this, reader? You see, I really need your damned probability...]

Cheon Inho backspaced. It sounds too demanding. Fuck, he only knows how to incite people using speech and charisma. He's no writer. If only he had Lee Hakhyun here, or Han Sooyoung...

He knows Yun Daehyun's story won't last long if he doesn't take action. Giving a dead soul not belonging to this timeline, a body of a character is one risky business.

It's also just a small amount of time before Kim Dokja figures everything out.

(OR, Kim Dokja falls in love with a strange amnesiac and Cheon Inho has something to do with it.) fandom: omniscient reader's viewpoint status: on-going (30k~ words) pairing: oc x kim dokja, joongdok, sangsoo, platonic yoohankim AO3 | Wattpad | FF.net

Excerpt: “Daehyun.” A voice called out a name I’ve recognized to be mine. Waking me up from a haze that has been cast upon me.

I opened my eyes to be greeted by a blinding white scenery. In my hand, I held a teacup. I almost dropped it in my fluster, but managed not to do so. I carefully placed it down the saucer on the table before me and turned to observe my surroundings.

I seem to be in the middle of nowhere. A snowfield, to be exact. It was strange, yet also seemed familiar to me. Flurries gently cascaded from the skies, like glitter and dandelion seeds. The ground sparkled and reflected the gentle sunlight on its pure white surface. The leafless trees resemble the ones I’ve painted without flaw on a canvas meant for someone. The icicles hanging on their branches seemed to look like morning dew. The air was cold in a welcoming way, unlike the piercing winds of a blizzard.

And here I sat, feeling warm despite my scarce clothing. Across the tea table is a man whose face seemed obscured, his only notable detail being his jet-black hair and his smug expression. 

A sharp pain shot through my head and I vaguely remembered who he was.

The man in the bathroom. 

“Are you curious about how the story goes?” He asks, taking a sip of his tea. 

“Do you mean…what I saw just now? The Sun and the Venus?” He nodded, and I gulped in nervousness. “Yeah, I am.”

“Very well, all you have to do is stay with Kim Dokja. The amnesia will fix itself in due time — and more so with Kim Dokja around.” He smiled, gently closing his eyes and facing away, as if trying to emphasize. I felt unsure if this person could even be trusted, as he smiles the same way I do when I lie. 

Or perhaps it’s just my paranoia and there’s no telling whether I’m lying or not. If I am right, he is my subconscious. What could I do when I cannot even trust myself? 

“I got it.”

“Oh you’re so painfully naive for who’s supposedly reincarnated as a part of the Ten Evils.” He snickers, staring at me with mocking eyes. As much as I would like to retort back at him and question him for his omninous statement, I couldn’t for his mere presence started to impose an extraordinary amount of pressure. It was as if I was looking at God himself, or perhaps someone even greater than any divine being I knew of. 

I stared down into my teacup, watching the tea stalks float around. All the words and sentences I wished to say were being boiled down to simplistic answers in my rising fear. The atmosphere quickly turned colder and colder with every passing minute. 

“And would you look at that? You’ve completely frozen up.” His chilling laughter echoed through the vast snowfield. “Anyhow, our time here in between the paragraphs is up. You should go back now — Kim Dokja is waiting for his dearest salvation. Remember to take care of yourself — the synchronization process never finished.”

The ground below me opened up, plunging me deep underground. I felt as if I was being forced underwater, denied even a short gasp for air. My body felt like it was contorting in strange ways, excruciating pain following closely. Everything felt like it both shrank and expanded at the same time. I opened my mouth to scream, but I found it was as if I didn’t have one in the first place. 

At the hole up above from here where I fell in, he stood over smiling at me. His smile was nothing like mine this time. The corners of his mouth curled up in a gentlemanly way, yet it was not human. I was able to take a glimpse of his eyes, and in my horror, I noticed it was the same shade of bright golden yellow like me. 

I was wrong, it isn’t my subconscious. 

A monster. I was looking at an incomprehensible monster. 

‘If you stare long enough into the abyss, the abyss will gaze back at you.’

(From Chapter 10: Episode 3 - A Reader's Nepenthe)

[heckerwithsalad]

Hy! Name’s Kris or Salad idrc;)

Me:

Nationality: Slovak-Czech

Languages: slovak🇸🇰, czech🇨🇿, english🇬🇧/🇺🇸, german🇩🇪(a little), also I am learning a few other

Sexuality: Lesbian🏳️‍🌈❤️🧡🤍🩷💜

Mentally: Unstable ( so don’t be mean to me or I’ll either cry 😢 or kill you🔪)

My Art: singing(not publicly), piano(also not publicly), drawing(you’ll see it once in a blue moon/ there’s chance)

Fav things:

Music🎶 (metal, rock🪨🤘, pop (but only some; also jpop), vocaloid, soundtracks from musicals

Coffee☕️(at home cafe latte; in summers caramel frappe/ice latte; Halloween pumpkin spice frappe)

Books📚(queer literature, manga(I have a really weird taste so don’t ask me for recs), post/apocalyptic books,(also fanfics if we count them as books)

Games🎮(I love horror games(don’t know how to play them), old horror jrpgs, platformers, mainly games with great story

Drawing🎨(what can I say, the fanart I’ve seen in past few years made me wanna draw too)(also I don’t draw too often)

Fandoms(finally):

This will also be a kinda weird list so… anyway

Orv📖(extreme hyper-fixation and way of coping)(still reading)

Hannibal 🔪(All types of media(books!/NBC!/also the old movies)

Hazbin Hotel(we slay also songs are bangers)

VTubers 🖋️(don’t judge me or I will judge you ☺️🔪)

A lot of weird/queer Animes/Manga ( Kuroshitsuji, Tokyo Ghoul, Yuri on Ice, Bloom Into You(ptw)…) if you have recs don’t hesitate to drop below, please😩

Hamilton (am here if you wanna yap)

Fnaf🤖 (also don’t judge)

A lot of my fav games👾 (Ib, Mad Father, Undertale…)

A lot of weird stuff I forgor

Random fandoms because I like their ships

I also possess random knowledge about some fandoms

Personal goals for future:

Would love to draw more so I can post(also get better at digital art)

I want to make my own rpg game(probably not in foreseeable future)

Write fanfics🖋️( I am started on one(like 4 sentences) and also I got a lot of ideas💡)

Also I want to try streaming just for fun, but I don’t have time and don’t know where to start (I’m just procrastinating really)

Learn swedish🇸🇪(also procrastinating at the moment)

Find will to live(TT)

PS: I made this intro only bc of my friend , so I may not be that active, but I’ll also try to post more and not only reblog;-;

PS2: I’m really shy🥲

PS3: My humour is really dark and morbid💀⚰️ so be prepared

[the-music-maniac]

I'm relatively new to ORV, I got into it a while back and then ran out of time to continue (the novel is long AF lol) but as I'm getting back into it, I've realized that ORV is one of the most main character centric fandoms I have ever encountered before.

And tbh I think that's why I've been having so many issues getting invested in ORV fanworks. Specifically shipping ones. It's super rare for me because usually I love reading fanfics.

Before I start talking about my thoughts I just wanna make a disclaimer that I'm not trying to attack anyone. You should interact with media and create stuff however you wish to! Lord knows that I'm not exactly unbiased about my blorbos (I would die for them and you can tell from my posts) but I just kinda wanna talk about this because it's such a unique experience. Never before have I encountered a fandom that is so centered on one character.

Like I hope y'all know what I'm talking about and that I'm not just talking out of my ass. Everything in the ORV fandom is super Kim Dokja centric. On one hand, I really do get it, he's a great character. He's not my favourite character but he's a lil rat bastard and I think he's so fucking neat. And how centred the storyline and moreover the people in the story are on Kim Dokja is to a certain extent, canon. He's their leader and also the person keeping them safe. He's the one who reached out in their darkest moments and pulled them to the light. And he's a traumatized little bitch. Oof. A certain amount of hero worship and protectiveness is valid.

What I can't really wrap my head around though, is the lack of development between other members of the group in a lot of fanworks. This is specifically fandom interpretations of the characters btw, I haven't finished the story fully, so I can't speak on how they are canonically but I have seen people's stories and thoughts. And this isn't always the case of course, I have read fics before where our protagonists all appear to have relations with each other outside of their care for Dokja but it... wasn't as much as I was expecting. Which is weird to me because ORV is super good at writing like. Well written and thought out characters that would be super fun to play with in writing. In developing connections and care for each other - creating a found family. At the beginning they're all tied in by the need for survival and circumstance, they don't even necessarily like each other, and so of course they all gravitate to Dokja, that's to be expected, that's who they're familiar with. But eventually I expect they would learn to care about each other too, y'know? It's difficult to not get to know each other when you're living together daily, fighting alongside each other to survive. I don't believe that they wouldn't develop care for the other members of the group, and people who care about each other don't tend to genuinely threaten each other anytime Dokja gets hurt, especially when it's not anyone's fault - like usually it's in response to one of them "not doing enough to protect him" which makes no sense to me. You don't guilt trip people you care about for things outside their control. Moreover, Dokja is his own person - he will do what he will do and you can try and prevent it because you care about him, sure, but it's also unreasonable for others to expect anyone to be his keeper enough that they get angry when Dokja gets hurt due to his own actions or to situations outside of their control. People in general also don't have their entire character and world centered on loving one person. There are fics I've read where all the characters don't even seem to have any hobbies outside of spending time with Dokja, and I say this because they all literally fight, tooth and nail, over Dokja's time. It feels out of character to me. And yet this characterization is also so common???

I don't usually mind fics that so clearly have a bias towards one character because it's valid to write what you wanna see, but I think it's how saturated the fandom is with those types of works that makes me feel weird. It makes me stop seeing all the characters as individuals in their own right. Having no wants or needs or hobbies outside of Dokja makes it seem like they're just accessories to the story of Dokja's life. The story itself becomes less compelling to me, because it becomes less of a narrative of how Dokja has helped these people and their responses, and more of a world that bends over backwards to worship this one character, using all the other characters as tools to do so. Because if this is meant to convey gratitude and love, its illogical to how it usually works. Specifically in that, you don't lose your own identity or your connections to other people because of it. And I find it hard to interact with this level of saturation of those tropes because at a certain point, I start losing sight of the canonical writing of these individual characters as their own people. I start losing the idea I have in my mind of their canonical personalities. And I don't like that feeling. And because Dokja also isn't my favourite character in this story - I still like him, don't get me wrong - I start feeling indignant on the behalf of all the other characters that are not getting development BC of the concentration on Dokja.

I also don't like it when the banter goes away. Like you can care about people and still enjoy messing with them, I'm not sure why caring about dokja translates to hero worship??? I annoy my friends all the time, and they do it back. It's fun. Like that thing the group does where they can't see Dokja's face and just unanimously decide to tell him he looks bad when he asks about it? That's peak friendship. Peak messing with your sibling energy. As far as I've seen Dokja isn't self conscious about that either (then again I haven't read the entire story yet), so like. What gives? It's canonical that they mess with Dokja - but a lot of fics just get rid of that element.

I also find it especially hard when it comes to shipping, specifically Joonghyuk and Dokja. The reason why I love Joonghyuk and Dokja's dynamic so much in the first place is because they view each other as equals. It would be very easy to place either Joonghyuk or Dokja onto a pedestal - but they don't do that to each other. They know each other pretty damn well and they care about each other even though they're so in denial about it. And you know that thing they do where they act like the other is the worst person in existence and then negates it all by repeatedly devoting themselves to saving them? That's my shit. That whole "you're so fucking annoying but if you died I would kill everything in this room and then myself." The whole "what was that?" "Affection." "Disgusting. Do it again." THAT SHIT. I love that about them. And like the platonic relationships, a lot of shipping works get rid of that type of banter when they shift to a romantic relationship. Like yeah, sweet talk and honesty is important. You should let your partner know you love them. But that's not gonna be all there is. I don't see a need to get rid of the banter because as the story goes on, it's clear that even in canon, eventually the harsh words they say to each other stop being genuine because their actions negate the words. They don't mean them in the first place, so why would that banter change once their care shifts from a platonic to a romantic one? And I could perhaps be okay with that shift from banter to sweet talk if it was MUTUAL, but too often I see a situation where Dokja continues to insult Joonghyuk but he doesn't return it in kind. Joonghyuk is very blunt about his love for Dokja - which is good - but Dokja doesn't do the same back, and for some reason that's fine, and then Joonghyuk also no longer has those very human moments of annoyance when Dokja does some stupid shit. Like I guess I could understand the characterization of Dokja being emotionally constipated cause he's kind of a traumatized control freak and I can see how getting him to talk about his feelings is like trying to get a cat into a bathtub, but it's not like Joonghyuk isn't also like that? It's not really as much of a compelling relationship if one person is telling the other everything, giving care in words of affection and the other person isn't returning it. And you could depict that returned care in other ways, absolutely, but again I don't see it in other ways either, because those stories are still so Dokja centric.

Another factor is that I find that I can't really like a ship in a work where one of the characters is elevated to a point where they can't do anything wrong. Where their own needs are always at the forefront and their partner is always catering to it. Like a relationship is a give and take. We focus a lot on Dokja's trauma - which I love, that man needs sO MUCH THERAPY and it's an interesting topic to explore - but we don't focus on the amount of shit Joonghyuk has had to go through. I very rarely see a shipping fic where Dokja tries to address Joonghyuk's trauma or his hurt. Physical hurt sure, maybe, but that other shit that Joonghyuk bottles up?? Never talked about. My man has had to keep living lives over and over again. Has had to see people he love die, make hard choices. There is no way he's not traumatized to shit, and I'd like that to be a focus some of the time, y'know? Moreover, of all people, Dokja would be the one to understand him the most? One, he's the only one who really knows the whole truth about Joonghyuk, or as much of it as you can, and two, they both have taken on very burdensome leadership roles in a situation where few would be able to understand their position - it makes sense for them to lean on each other mutually, and so far there's a very prominent skew, only an exploration on one side.

And I pretty much haven't seen a shipping fic with Dokja and Joonghyuk where Joonghyuk has recieved any form of platonic comfort from the other characters. I've seen plenty for Dokja. Where he gets comforted/helped by both Joonghyuk and all the other characters. But not for Joonghyuk. If y'all have any recs where Joonghyuk has that, PLEASE recommend it because I need. And sure, it can be argued that Joonghyuk is a hard man to know considering his prickliness but regardless, he DOES have canonical platonic relationships. People who care for him. Who would be protective over him if he were to get hurt. That is not something only Dokja has, and yet it's something I only ever see written for Dokja. Y'all need to remember that technically Dokja doesn't act like any less of an asshole sometimes than Joonghyuk. He's more outwardly approachable sure, but he's not necessarily sweet 100% of the time - he has grit and he's a rat bastard and that's my FAVOURITE FUCKING PART ABOUT HIM. The fact that he's a rat bastard and the fact that not everyone likes him. His interactions in a world where he does have to make hard choices or say things that put people at odds, or hurts others when he didn't mean to. I love that about Joonghyuk too. They suck and they both have so much capacity to be kind despite all the shit they've gone through, but they're not able to see that in themselves and they do bad things because they have to, and I think they're so fascinating.

Y'know out of all of this, I think what cracks me up is, knowing Dokja's character, he would be absolutely appalled at how centred all of it is on him only. Like. Like that's literally the opposite of what he wants 🤣🤣. Like I get that makes people want to do it more because he deserves it and whatnot which is valid but like. He would be quite disgruntled 🤣🤣🤣

[lizhly-writes]

the thing about reading orv and svsss is that i think it's subconsciously convinced a part of my mind that yes, i too can make a living as a writer/artist.

i think it's something about being published as a webnovel writer. it's by nature got a lower bar of entry than traditional publishing, and because webnovels are generally serialized, it feels... i don't know. more fanfic-ish? vaguely homier? obtainable, somehow. like I could theoretically start publishing shit on royal road or fictionpress or wattpad or webnovel right now and go "HELLO I'M HERE NOW CHECK OUT MY KOFI AND PATREON"

it's so easy! i could literally do it right now! make a royal road account or whatever and hey, look, chapter!!!

but then the rest of my mind goes, "no, other part of my mind. hsy started out as a rich girl, she didn't technically NEED the money. sqh was NOT a rich girl, but he could do 10k+ words in one day. neither of those things are true of you. also do you even know how royal road works. have you ever written a full story in your life. do you even know if a full story you write will be good. hey, liz, answer me do you--"

yeah.

so it's like: no, it will not work out like your webnovel girlies (and also sqh was kind of not doing so hot so it is really only the one girlie we are speaking of). this will not work in your favor.

but oh, what if.

anyway thanks for reading my kofi is at

[seirclys]

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Who am I?

Call me Lysia, Lys, or Sei she/her pronouns | fanfic writer, fandom analyzer

What do I do?

As of now, this is a VADD-centric blog(at least with my personal content). This is also a spoiler zone, so be warned!

I mainly do analyses and write, with my character focus being the Original Penelope Eckhart. I'm also on AO3, where I post my longer works. Feel free to send me an ask!

My current fic focus: Shrike

What fandoms am I in?

Villains are Destined to Die(VADD)— Discord

Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint(ORV)— manhwa only but got spoiled so hard.

Roxana— On hiatus and I read a bad translation...

MDZS— Cultural osmosis, babyyy(I never got around to consuming any official content in its full capacity ever since I became obsessed with the Untamed in 2020 LOLL) Jiang Cheng and Mo Xuanyu main. DO NOT COME FOR ME. I AM NOT INTERESTED IN JC BASHING, I HAVE TO WADE THROUGH THAT ALREADY.

LCF— Dropped it around Part 3.

SVSSS— Again, cultural osmosis. Mostly interested in Shen Jiu.

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[yul-lyu]

So about the (name)-ah/ya/ie/ssi thing

So I was reading fanfics on ao3 (like always) and discovered fanfics for Korean webnovels, webtoons and dramas and got really excited because I had absolutely no idea orv and Tower of God had an international fanbase??? So obviously I read a bunch of fics and they were REALLY GOOD HOLY SHIT HONESTLY I LOVE YOU ALL but I couldn't help but want to point out some errors and stuff based on grammar and culture so here goes nothing!

1. (Name)-ah/ie/ya/ssi

So this is the most common mistake I found and I get why so many people make it. It might be a bit tricky for non-korean speakers and some of them vary by age and stuff so cultural difference makes an appearance here. It's also the main reason I'm writing this post.

(Name)-ah/ya

So this is used when you're directly talking to the person being addressed. It's used when you are addressing a friend and someone younger than you (and in the case of adults) that you are close to. DO NOT use it when you're addressing someone older or a higher rank or higher social position unless it's used like that in the original work (this happens very rarely tho).

Also (name)-ah is used when the persons name ends with basically any letter other than a, i, o, e, u. And (name)-ya is used when the name does end or is pronounced like it ends in those letters.

Ex)Joonghyuk-ah, Gilyoung-ah, Dokja-ya, Sangah-ya

(Name)-ie

Basically used when referring to someone (or yourself, sometimes, if you're feeling childish or a literal child in preschool) in third-person. So basically when you're talking to someone about another person, not directly to the person you're addressing. Sometimes when it is used when talking to the person addressed, said person is usually a child under 6-7years-old and usually used in the context of a question.

It's only used if the name doesn't end in a, i, o, e, u. If it does, or is pronounced like it does, you don't use anything after it's just (Name). Also, this term is also only used when you are addressing a friend and/or someone younger than you. Otherwise add -ssi. I'll explain that next.

Ex)

"Yoosung-ie is sleeping."

"Dokja is recovering"

(Talking to Mina(4y/o)) "Mina should eat her carrots to be healthy, right?"

Mina(4y/o) : Mina likes to play! Will you be my friend?

(Name)-ssi

It's a formal way addressing someone, but in cultural context it's only used between two adults. In some contexts, usually being a different world or period entirely or a unique dynamic between characters, it can be used to address a minor. One example being Bam calling Khun(17 y/o at the time) Khun-ssi. Whether a character calls someone (Name)-ssi can vary from character to character, so if you're using this term keep a look out to whether the character addressed is called (Name)-ssi by the character addressing them. Some characters might call everyone (Name)-ssi while some characters don't at all(tho this would usually be rude), and some characters might call this character (Name)-ssi but use (Name)-ah/ya/ie for another. Underage characters usually do not use the term at all, as in real life the term is not used by or on underage people. It is also considered rude if a older adult doesn't call a younger adult (name)-ssi when they are not close or doesn't have permission to do so. And when a younger adult calls an older adult (name)-ssi they usually met outside of work and don't have a huge age gap. It would be rather rude to call a friend's mother or someone old enough to be your mother (name)-ssi without their permission.

Also (name)-ssi is used when you're talking to the person directly and when you're talking about them to another person. Also it doesn't matter what the name ends with.

Ex)

Kuhn-ssi

Heewon-ssi

Dokja-ssi

2. Chunni or Chunnibyeong (I honestly have no idea how you spell it)

Okay so.. I think some people have the right idea about this and some are confused? Chunni is directly translated to 중2. Which is middleschool 2nd grade, and if I'm not mistaken, 8th grade in the US (Korea has 6 grades of elementary). When you refer to someone as chunni, you could be literally saying that they're in 8th grade, or that they have chunnibyeong.

Chunnibyeong is what people in Korea jokingly refer the serious-but-seems-silly-when-you-get-past-it stage, teen angst, emo phase, and the "this is the real me! What does being like me even mean?!" phase as. It's typically hits the peak at 8th grade, hence why it's called chunnibyeong. Kids in late elementary school years to highschool seniors can be said to have a case of chunnibyeong if that phase is on going. But the term isn't usually used on adults. If an adult has symptoms of chunnibyeong they're called childish and very dramatic. With the exception of late chunnibyeong. Which refers to adults that didn't have a trace of chunnibyeong in their teen years but suddenly has symptoms (usually) in their twenties.

Of course, if canon call adults chunni then that is another exception of what is stated above.

Tmi, but there's a saying in Korea that North Korea doesn't dare start a war because they're afraid of the Chunni's. That's how dramatic they are. (Exhibit A : Kim Namwoon)

So that's pretty much all I could think of! If you have any other questions pls feel free to ask!

[saurriko]

Spoilers for key moments in the end of the ORV (omniscient reader viewpoint) novel!!

Wondering if a novel will ever leave me with the same emotional impact the last roughly 30 chapters of ORV did like I full on sobbed when they left the KDJ split 49/51 when exiting the train.... I talked extremely vaguely about this in a previous post but for fking REAL that part hits so hard and I still feel myself wanting to cry when I think about it ... and how the team went full on like... hmmm yes we are getting the Squid back???

Also the emotional typhoon I got hit with by the 0th turn recount?? HnNnNNNN

I almost for got about the train platform scene with them and young kdj...

ORV already had so many beliefs that I agreed with so everything hit so much... I don't recall crying over something without visual representations before until I recall the night I read that the 51/49 split and sobbed, or when I eventually got to the part of yjh forgetting his sponsor and just... ugh the TRAIN man just anything with the train gets me

Yes I refuse to read the last 10 chapters, yes I basically know what happens because fanfics and yes I will stand my ground believing everything's ok because as long as I can imagine it then it's true somewhere

Really what's up with trains being a prime emotional pain setting.... come on sire....

I am happy that this novel left such an impression on me tho... I'm excited for the manhwa to progress, my brains visualisation power can only do so much (it was hard as hell for me to imagine the fight eith the fire dragon disaster then when it finally showed up in the manhwa I felt like an idiot)

[your--isgayrights]

F, M, S :?

Hiiii stella i really liked your new fic just so you know okay hello :))

Gonna put my answers to these under the cut because they’re really long ^_^; thank you for sending me an ask for this but also dont feel obligated to read my long winded answers aslkfjfdsf

F: Share a snippet from one of your favorite dialogue scenes you’ve written and explain why you’re proud of it.

Hmmmm this question is kind of hard because even though I really see myself as someone who likes writing dialogue more than prose, lately most talking I write is like heavily interlaced with like these character actions that are supposed to be indicative of tone, you know? Also I have a lot of dialogue I like that isn’t technically attached to anything yet... uh...

Okay, I like these lines from A Dream in Which Yoo Jonghyuk Plays Mario Kart:

"Kim Dokja." Yoo Jonghyuk says.

"... You're gonna tell me to shut up, right?" Kim Dokja tries to guess from the vast experience he has of this man. "To not worry so much about useless things? To just be here in the moment..."

He trails off on the word moment. His eyes are suddenly far away, clouded with the memory of a destroyed Seoul skyline.

The hand on his shoulder tightens. Just enough to bring him back.

"Eh?" Kim Dokja's eyes refocus, blinking up at a Yoo Jonghyuk who is looking at him in the eye instead of over his shoulder. "Well?" He asks a man whose broad back is now far too sore in the mornings to carry the weight of the world. "Am I right?"

Yoo Jonghyuk does not answer any of the questions that Kim Dokja has posed with a 'yes,' a 'no,' or even a 'shut up.'

He does, however, give his husband a peck on the lips that lasts for just a moment shorter than a dream and conveys the exact same message.

When he pulls away from this kiss, he meets his husband's eyes once more and says five magical words.

"Watch me win Rainbow Road."

Um the thing I’m most proud of here is that I made Yoo Jonghyuk being a gamer anything approaching “romantic.” The “Watch me win Rainbow Road” line is basically the main thing holding this ficlet together as an actual piece of writing akdjfslfjsf. But like I said, a lot of the emotion in the words comes from the deviance from expectation set up around the dialogue rather than the dialogue itself, so I’m not sure if it counts? Fun anyway!

M: Got any premises on the back burner that you’d care to share?

Hmmm most of my premises I’ve been trying to adapt somehow into my current WIP, like I had this soosang idea that I thought about adapting as some sort of epilogue? It was like about HSY and YSA being childhood friends and the way that HSY wrote passages in her stories differently based on the way she viewed their relationship. But then like... hmm.

I guess Actual premises would include stuff like “AU where Kim Dokja is there when Yoo Jonghyuk regresses,” which I’m always daydreaming about just a little bit because 1. I kind of want to write YJH perspective on KDJ in the early rounds because I think its hilarious how he probably thinks very highly of him actually and thats SO diffferent from how KDJ views how things are happening, and then 2. VERY funny to have KDJ make the choices he makes confidently in timelines where he doesn’t realize YJH knows about him, or like 3. how KDJ would adapt to YJH knowing about him and whether he has back up plans for that.

My only hang up on that premise is that I’m not going to write it because A. It would take WAY too long for me to flesh out that premise in a way that I was happy with because I’m terrible like that and even slice of life relationship stories have to have like 40k long chapters for me to be happy with development. And then B. It’s definitely a premise that’s been used before, and even though I’m usually cool with doing bland premises with my own spin on them, I think that a lot of people already have like... set opinions on what they think this type of au would look like and mine differs a bit and I don’t want to argue with people on the internet, haha.

Anyway since I’m never going to write it, I can tell you that I think that the climax of my AU would probably be all of the KDJs of every timeline some how reviving YJH at the same time across their parallel timelines. It would show the perspectives of KDJs who were briefly mentioned in YJH’s building angst train, even ones where he was an enemy and in fact killed YJH himself, and other ones where he was a deeply trusted comrade, and we would think that the KDJs are doing some part of the scenario until they all do the same thing at once and it’s revealed what the item they were trying to obtain did. It exchanges his own life for that of YJH’s.

YJH in whatever regression he’s in has this moment of being completely saved, where all of these lifetimes where he died peacefully of old age by his companion’s sides come rushing into him, but even though he realizes Kim Dokja is the one responsible, he has no memory of him making it to the end. So he resolves to spend that last lifetime vowing not to die and to save Kim Dokja no matter what when previously he had given into the regressor depression of only trying to save himself.

Also not about fanfic but uh here’s some songs that I daydream orv amvs to sometimes: A Death - An Unkindness, I’m Gonna Win - Rob Cantor, Achilles Come Down - Gang of Youths, Squaring up - Sir Chloe.

S: Any fandom tropes you can’t resist?

Ahhh you know I think I’ve said this before that I really like slow burn and long complicated relationships like childhood friends to enemies to friends and or lovers you know, but I’ve been thinking about it recently and realize that I actually do use a lot of fandom-ey tropes! Like it was pointed out to me that my big WIP is very much based on an AU used in other fandoms, and I realize that I really like writing troupes used in fandom in a way that puts my own twist on it,  you know?

Like this is a bit embarassing, but I think the first fics I ever wrote were definitely from me seeing a specific kind of AU being overused in the fandom and wanting to write that AU from what I viewed as like... THE. RIGHT. WAY. to do it asdlkfjsfasfasf. Like the main emotion that actually gets me writing something down is spite alskfjf. Like sorry allos but I don’t understand why they would have kissed there so heres a 50k+ fic where they gaze longingly at each other for a much much longer time okay thanks.

[unrivaled-super-hottie]

2020 Fic Year In Review

To be honest, I’ve always wanted to do this but never felt i was prolific enough. But you know, I’m going to say screw it to that! What little I did write this year is still valuable enough for me to reflect over and celebrate.

January to April: nothing because school, then at the end of april covid happened and I got more time off and it shows haha

May:

Raining Opportunity, Chapter 4 (TKA, 5826 words)

June: nothing

July:

The Misadventures of (The Cardboard Cutout) Ye Qiu (TKA, 1449 words)

August

The Gods Must Be Crazy (1323 words)

P1 (1088 words)

September to October: nothing, was pretty busy with preparing fandom events

November

all you who are weary and burdened (1077 words)

December

jamais vu (TWEWY, 807 words)

Total Year’s Output: 10,482

Gone way down from last year (which was more solidly above ~25k). A bit of the 5k I had for the chapter update was already done in 2019, and the rest of the things in 2020 came in tiny 1k trickles 

But you know, considering the shitshow 2020 was for me, I’m just kinda proud I made it to 5 digits? 

What pairing/genre/fandom did you write that you would never have predicted in January 2020? 

I didn’t expect the TWEWY fic! TWEWY is such an old fandom for me, but I’ve been much more excited about it this year because of the upcoming sequel and anime

Also Zhang Jiale + Ye Xiu. I’ve always liked those two characters separately but this year my third eye opened on how fun it is to write their interactions together, thank you TKA season 2

What’s your favourite story of the year? Not the most popular, but the one that makes you happiest. 

Definitely The Misadventures of (The Cardboard Cutout) Ye Qiu. It all came out in the span of 2 or so days, which is amazing turnaround for my standards. It was just something fun and silly, a shit post in fic form that I can always look back and giggle about. It’s made me realize “fun and silly” is one of the easiest things for me to write

Do you have any fanfic goals for the New Year?

I want to write an ORV fic for 2021! 

And finish up the gift fics I started this year without finishing. I’m in a perpetual struggle between “man I shouldn’t have posted half finished gifts” vs “posting something is better than posting nothing, and at least this gives you extra motivation to finish the rest!” Hopefully, if I finish, I won’t have to struggle with these thoughts anymore

[kuroko99]

AO3 Unwrapped:

5, 6, 16, 18, 22, 30

Hikari!! uwaaaah thank you for asking darling

5. What work of yours got more feedback than you expected?

um so Repeat got a lot of attention and feedback, some of it even live because it was read on a fanfic friday at the Detco ENG server so im very happy with that since it's a rather personal one. basically my OCD mental health manifesto with Shinichi in the hot seat.

6. Favorite title you used?

i adore my Bad Books series. which is a band but also a hilariously apt name for an ORV fic series. The After Party is the main work and not only does the title fit so well but that song has been a Kim Dokja anthem for me since i first started the novel.

16. What's your most common "Additional Tags" tag?

Angst. duh.

18. The character that gave you the most trouble writing this year?

Oh my gods i barely know a thing about Furuya Rei but i tried my hand at his POV in a gift fic, Black Creme. according to my Rei stan bestie (Bread if you're reading this...) i did rather well? which i find hard to believe. who is this guy.

22. Which work has the most comments?

Van Gogh! but idk if that's fair since it spanned the last two years. anyway that work is my beloved im glad lots of people had different and interesting things to say about it. worming my way into Black Org Shinichi eminence.

30. Biggest surprise while writing this year?

Probably just the existence and enjoyment brought by podficcing? i haven't put any of mine out there yet but im trying for Jan to pod a couple of my fics. reading allow at discord events and for friends anxiously waiting for me to publish was a real fun time this year. i treasure it.

[southernwolf16]

The Lost Cub (AU) Series Updates (kind of)

Around three weeks ago I got a comment on my AO3 account for Downtime Ch2. It was written in Spanish so I ran it through Google Translate.

And was slightly offended at what I read. Because it sounded like the person was complaining about an aspect of the story, which never happened before. It kinda bothered me but I thought at the same time that the translation might be wrong. So I used another translator and the comment made better sense after that.

Lesson learned: never put all your faith in Google Translate.

Speaking of accounts, I don’t know if anyone’s noticed that my fics are no longer on Fanfiction.net. It’s because I decided to remove everything and just focus on posting updates on Tumblr and AO3.

What made me decide this was the lack of feedback on Downtime Ch2. Sure it was getting hits, but it didn’t get a single comment a year after I uploaded it. My thoughts were going from ‘Did I scare/offend my readers?’ to ‘Did people actually read it or just clicked on it by mistake?’. I didn’t have a clue.

Compared to AO3, where Ch2 has the most number of comments for Downtime to date.

To stop myself from further stressing over this, I just closed shop. Deleted all my fics so I don’t have a reason to check my account hoping there’s feedback. I did this months ago and honestly, I’d forgotten exactly when because I want to move on from it.

But why am I bringing this up now? For closure, I suppose.

As for Downtime Chapter 4—well, I’m working on it, but at a very slow pace. I’m not going to make any promises that it’ll be ready by March 21 (the date I posted Chapter 3 in 2021), only that I plan to have it done by 2022.

I can’t wait to finish Downtime. But then my motivation doesn’t want the same thing.

These past months I’ve mostly been reading web novels, webtoons, manhwas and fanfics. For web novels, I tried reading a badly translated Remarried Empress and finished reading Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint.

(ORV is just—gah, I have no words for it. Interesting, is one. There is an actor AU fic in AO3 for this fandom that’s just *chef’s kiss*. It’s called “Imaginary Truths”. The manhwa has very beautiful art and has so far stayed true to the web novel.)

I also tried reading Solo Leveling (manhwa), Trash of the Count’s Family (manhwa) and Heaven’s Official Blessing (web novel) but these didn’t hold my attention as much as ORV and MDZS (web novel) did.

(I’ve noticed that the MDZS fandom is rather toxic. Stanning this character and hating on other people who aren’t stans, authors harassing other authors. Reminds me of the VLD fandom. Not that I’ve been a victim—I  don’t engage the other fans—but the posts you see here on Tumblr will give you enough idea.)

And since it’s the Presidential election in my country on May 2022, lately I’ve been watching videos of the political blogger I’ve been following. It’ll likely continue until the first half of 2022.

Yay, more things to keep me from writing.  

Oh, and there’s this fic I started years back that was supposed to be an entry to madameazzure’s event. I set it aside to write A Show of Power. In the end, neither fics made it to the deadline.

Now, it’s come back to haunt me. I’ve been wondering if I should finish it one of these days just so I’d stop thinking about “nude painting session”, “mozzarella” and “two left feet”. Maybe put it under a different series.

Okay, enough with the rambling. Here’s to a better 2022, writing wise.

[1-800-i-ship-it]

since school ends rly soon for me (and i dont need to pay attention basically) ive been reading in almost every class so im on ch 490 or so (but i could have been done sooner if i werent so distracted by orv fanfics (yes i read the fanfics before i finish the main work what of it)) uhhh i dont really DO webtoons but the ones im reading are lore olympus (greek mythology got me like), muted (ayyy witch lesbian ot3), scoob and shag (RLY underrated), castle swimmer (gay fish my beloved) and lovebot (mostly reading cause its the same creator as muted). as you can tell i like gay rep thats not the main part of the story lol

ALSKSKSSK AHAHAHHAA MOOD XD good for u!!! 

omigosh ur almost done :00 AND OMG MY DUDE DONT WORRY SAME SAMEEEE DID U KNOW I STARTED LOOKING FOR FICS BEFOER I EVEN FINISHED CATCHING UP TO THE WEBTOON XD i spoilered myself a bit and then i realized belatedly that i coulda just like filtered no spoilers lmao 

OMG YES i read all of them except for scoob and shag, i will check that one out then ^^  

omg greek myth then did u also read pjo before? and muted LLESBIAN WITCH OT3 YES. CASTLE SWIMMER GAY FISHESSS AND LOVEBOT YAY and dw super valid

thanks for the ask!