#No issue with multishippers or stans just them lol

[maipareshaan]

In my Sam bullying era in my Samgirl era its complicated

[enemywasp]

OMFG A PROSHIPPER !!+! SAME BUT I HAVE TO HIDE MY IDENTITY BC EVERYONE HAS DNI PROSHIP IN BIO LIKE WHY?????

UMMMMM ..... Rant bc it's so rare to find a kindred spirit in this shitty immature ""war""

it fr just means i believe we should ship and let ship??? why is the "i don't judge u for your preferences" thing seen as bad idfk like. it's fucking fiction.

if it's problematic then I don't condone it irl. but I'm human. I have curiosities and shit. Like,, ppl don't listen to true crime bc they condone murder and ppl don't go calling true crime fans murderers. so WHYYYY is shipping any different, in fact it's b e t t e r bc at least fiction. isn't. real.

like why tf is what i ship anyone else's business??? unless it's bc we have smthn in common to bond over, why tf do ppl care abt the ships we don't have in common.

istg ship wars are crazy af and this whole pro- anti- ship shit is just another way to try to control smthn that doesn't need controlling.

it's like U said no one fucking cares abt it irl and the damn DEATH THREATS ppl get over **not giving a damn what other people ship** instead of being the fucking fandom shipper police or smthn is disgusting and i hate that im never allowed to talk abt this w/out ppl hating me and calling me a disgusting monster.

why can't I just do what I fucking want when in my own privacy while not causing any harm???

like ppl are so damn delusionalllllllll!!!!.!.!.!

-> some proshippers just mean they support any and all ships bc fiction is fiction

-> some proshippers ship "problematic" ships and that is FINE because it is NOT REAL and THEY ARE NOT HURTING ANYONE and i meannnnm ppl are curious right. they gonna explore alien concepts some way or another. why tf would ppl stop them from exploring it in a safe. healthy. fictional. harmless. way.

why is it that it's okay to consume problematic content but not okay to ship problematic ships?? literally what is the fucking difference ships are a subgenre of content.

if you think it's okay to be a fan of lotr or american psycho or some shit then it is damn hypocritical to say it isn't okay to ship something problematic. same thing if you think it's okay to stan/simp for a villain character.

it's only even called ~problematic~ bc that's how the relationship would be if it were real. which it isn't. so it isn't fucking problematic bc it's fictional content and the ppl shipping it do not condone the irl versions.

also sidenote,,, why tf are proshippers and multishippers grouped together in the dni stuff?? they are not related. a multishipper just. ships the same character w/ more than just one (1) other character. how is that problematic too?????

okay sorreryyyyyy i just have so many thoughts on this that im never allowed to share pls feel free to let this one collect dust in the inbox. or just straight up delete it lol.

Do not apologise! I love a good rant!

If you want to interact with proshippers more the tags "proshipper", "proshippers pls interact" and "proship positivity" are usually very nice and lots of wonderful people post there!

And you could always make a side account for proship stuff if you want to be able to take a break from the intense pro vs anti stuff if and when it gets too much, whilst still having a place to enjoy that stuff.

Honestly I think a lot of the issue is people seem to take the word "ship" as their ideal relationship. Less so than a dynamic they enjoy in fiction. But I don't know, I can't pretend to understand the mind of antis.

Proshippers and multishippers getting clumped together is probably linked to the idea that a ship is a pairing you want to see canon and shows actually pandering to ship wars lately. Or maybe people are just weird!

Everyone takes shipping way too seriously now and acts like a fictional pairings existence will romanticise the topic and brainwash kids. My general rule is that its for fun, who cares ?

And feel free to rant in my inbox whenever! It's always open to anyone. Glad you could get that off your chest :)

[hopefulobjectmiracle]

Why does Kurt hate Sebastian so much? Unfortunately some of the fandom just don’t understand why.

There are multi shippers, Klainers included, who want Kurt with Puck or Mike or Sam or Artie or Adam or Walter or Chandler because it’s cooler than saying Blaine is the one for Kurt. 😩

i think kurt hates sebastian because he's racist, sexist, and effeminophobic, and he repeatedly tried to steal kurt's boyfriend, insulted kurt constantly, tried to assault him with rock salt, and tried to leak fake nudes of his brother. all pretty good reasons if you ask me ;)

as for the second part of your ask...listen. i'm not the biggest fan of multishipping kurt or blaine either, and i don’t like most of the kurt ships you mentioned. however, there is nothing objectively wrong with multishipping. yes, i find it a bit annoying that there are very few blogs that exclusively ship klaine, but no one’s doing anything wrong by wanting to explore other pairings. and it’s not just kurt stans - a lot of blaine stans who like klaine also ship things like blam or seblaine, which is really not my thing, but they’re entitled to that as well. 

and i really don’t think that the primary motivation for multishipping is thinking it’s ‘cooler’ than shipping kurt with blaine. the klaine fans who like other ships generally seem disinterested in canon because klaine’s story has been told in its entirety and they want to discover something new. they also usually like the idea of enjoying the different dynamics between kurt and other characters. i don’t multiship kurt or blaine, so i can’t actually speak for them, but i do multiship santana and these are equivalent to most of my reasons for it - because she’s just such a great character with a ton of compelling relationships on the show, and it’s fun to dig deeper into each of them. 

(oh, and sometimes...these people just horny and think multishipping is hot, lol.)

yes, there are some really shitty people who are convinced that blaine is the devil and that kurt deserves better (and then go on to ship him with sebastian, lol) but i’d rather not think about those fans because they’re usually too far gone and don’t listen to reason.

anyway, i really don’t like multishipping klaine. it’s not my thing, and i don’t enjoy it, which is probably clear from all of my posts complaining about the lack of blogs that don’t multiship, lol. but i don’t think it’s fair to act like they’re doing something wrong, when they’re just fandoming the way that they want to. me disliking other klaine ships is a me problem, not a them problem. yes, i take a lot of issue with the way that some of them shit on klaine to prop up their ships, but y’know what, it’s on me to block and not interact with their content. 

which reminds me - i think it all boils down to curating your space, tbh. if you don’t like kurt multishippers? block each and every one of them. don’t follow blogs that post other kurt ships and stick to what you love instead. i think that would make fandom life a lot easier and much more peaceful. 

[tiredoftonkies-blog]

What you said about Tony intentionally being written the way he is? That's why my issues are rarely with characters. Not everyone is perfect and some people are just like Tony. That being said, my biggest issue is with the stans and their behavior in an attempt to make the character something he isn't while tearing down the others.

yep. i didn’t agree with all of tony’s actions before, like, i’ve always been somewhat critical of him for reasons that are probably obvious to a lot of us, but he actually used to be one of my absolute favorite characters (hence why i often bring up having been on the st/ony tag; i’m multishipper af and that used to be one of my favorites) the people who go over-the-top in defending him by tearing down and demonizing every other character unfortunately influenced my views of the character, and then having to defend the other characters so much made me realize just how much some of tony’s behavior and actions actually do bother me when i think about them more in-depth

i don’t actually hate him, although i probably give a good impression of that at times, and i am frustrated with how the narrative doesn’t seem to be acknowledging the sheer hypocrisy of his actions wrt the accords, as well as how every damn avengers movie and even cap 3 have felt like the tony stank show. really, though, the only mcu character i truly hate is vision and i can freely admit that it isn’t rational at all lol

tony is interesting to me because he tries so hard to do the right thing but he fucks it up half the time and he cares so much about people but he doesn’t seem to respect them much, or maybe it’s more accurate to say that he just doesn’t act like he respects them most of the time. those are such major parts of his character to me that i just... do not understand why stans seem to erase those traits and reduce him to just a poor innocent woobie who Did Nothing Wrong

[mustlovelance]

I’m sorry if this comes out as rude in any way— I’m just very aggravated by some posts I see on my dash (not you, just in general) and I just can’t take it anymore. Am I the only one who despises when people just group people together?? Like, I’m a Lance multishipper, and I like K//ance as well. So, when people group the toxic K//ance shippers with the normal, calm ones.. It makes me feel absolutely horrible. They make me feel ashamed of liking the ship, because some of the toxic shippers(1/2)

that threatened the producers/VA’s. I have never, ever done such things to them, OR any other people involved in the fandom. So just when people group us together.. Makes me just feel, like I said, absolutely horrible for liking the ship. I don’t think anyone should feel bad for liking a certain ship. Yes, you can obviously disagree and discuss peacefully why you think one ship might happen instead of the other. But please, don’t make others feel terrible by grouping them with the toxics

i..hope that none of my posts led you to believe that i think all kl/ance shippers are toxic--particularly seeing as i’m a kl/ance shipper who runs a kl/ance discord server. it’s my second-favorite ship, and takes up most of my blog. i’ve also written a huge defense of kl/ance here and i don’t put up with people saying keith stans are pure innocent babies in comparison when the toxic ones among them do the exact same shit. 

the people who will assume, based solely on you shipping kl/ance, that you’re a toxic person? they’re not worth talking to, trust me. your ship is just as valid as any other, and you’re allowed to be excited about it, or disappointed, or whatever the hell you want. anyone trying to make you feel bad for shipping kl/ance is an asshole and an idiot. 

the mindset among many anti-kl/ancers is basically: ship what you want, except when it’s kl/ance; don’t hate on ships, unless it’s kl/ance; don’t hate on characters, unless it’s lance; don’t talk about ships being problematic, unless it’s kl/ance, in which case, lance is abusive so it’s Bad and You Really Shouldn’t Ship It and I Think You’re Shady (an actual thing someone said once lol). their platform isn’t, “don’t be toxic.” it’s, “don’t be toxic to me about things that i like. but if i hate it? be as toxic as you want, because i don’t care, and my issue was never toxicity in itself so much as toxicity directed towards me specifically. also, all kl/ance shippers, even those who have defended me in the past, deserve this because of what they ship.” it’s an absolutely pointless platform that proclaims itself as righteous when it’s anything but. 

TLDR: ship kl/ance to your heart’s content, and don’t let other people’s fucked up ~~~~anti-ship hate uwu except k/lance uwu~~~ campaign interfere with that.