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allura has known this since the 60s
#zatanna#dc comics#this is a sliding scale of deep cuts. random ass women zee has fought. putting together her rogues roster one weirdo at a timeMDSJFHB#THATS allura (ourple) then nimue (choker) then this woman who showed up once in 1980 called sabrina AKA satin satan(!?!?)#what a NAME#what a deep cut.#she's invited for sure#wait a minute. allura (1967) satin satan (1980) and nimue (2003) we got a bitch frm every age. didnt even notice that#allura#satin satan#nimue ravensong
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We know the basics. The limitation of magic is that it will always come with a price. But I have this very interesting idea that with each unique magic user with a unique type of magic, it should have its own unique kind of price to pay. What would be an interesting kind of consequence that would fit well with her backward magic?
In canon it��s sorta hinted at that the price of her magic is the loss of her father/parents and then one other time jokingly implied that her bad luck in love is the price lol. Because in DC it seems to be more abstract prices, like i know with John it’s a big implication that everyone close to him gets hurt in some way.
imo this is fine, it’s not terribly creative but it’s a weird nebulous price that doesn’t really hinder her much. But i think there’s maybe different avenues we could explore?
My thought is that each magic user has a limit, a natural magical supply they can draw from to channel spells. And when you reach a spell that is more than what you possess naturally that’s when you have to start drawing power from different sources and “paying” for that magic. Kinda like a loan. That magic is the one with the weird costs, whereas depleting your normal supply just leaves you drained and needing rest. My HC is that Zatanna has a very unnaturally high limit, it’s one of the reasons she’s so “powerful” because the limit for her is far above everyone else, like John and why he’s labeled more an occultist.
you can draw power from beings like fae, gods and demons because they offer a convenient trade off as the cost. A little favor, worship, a sacrifice of some sort. Pretty straight forward bartering you give me this i lend you power. Magical objects are reserved for one type of spell/magic, the trade off being in needs to charge or it’s limited to the object, or you need to bond with the object, etc.
Then there’s magical dimensions you can draw energy from, and that cost can vary depending on the dimension, like maybe your sanity for a day, a week of nightmares, bit of bad luck, etc. Using John as an example again being who often does rituals or uses objects to sort’ve bypass the nastier costs/sources of magic so that he doesn’t deplete his natural reserve given by his demon blood, and so he doesn’t have to make any more deals than he already has.
Personally i don’t much care for the idea that the price of magic always had to be some depressing awful thing, i think that it should just be explicitly more transactional. And Zatanna is privileged because she inherited a lot of natural magic from her parents and being part homo magi and having a powerful medulla jewel in her brain. This also just plays into the notion that she’s a bit of a nepo baby and can inform how she interacts with the magical community since she has a “magic privilege”. I think that would be very fun to explore since she’s really well liked and trusted and seen as a great hero, but maybe there’s some resentment to how good she’s got it. Which has sorta been echoed in the past by John and Nimue Ravensong who had to work a lot harder to get good at magic and learn its secrets. Could definitely inform her more villainous rivals and how they might envy her like Allura or Tannarak. Even brother night who had to sacrifice all those kids for his power only for Zee to force him to recant it.
But if you have ideas for more specific costs id love to hear em. And thanks for the ask!
#zatanna zatara#zatanna#dc comics#john constantine#magic users#magic system#magic systems#the cost of magic#Magic always has a price#ask#asks#ask answered
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This is all one of the many reasons why I love Zatanna. She CARES.
Even when she doesn't have to rescue villains, she has been shown to care, from apologizing to Toyman for altering his memories, to visiting Nimue Ravensong in the hospital, to helping book acts for Tannarak's bar, Bewitched.
One quote I saw that I have associated with Zatanna is from Howard Thurston, a famous magician from the Golden Age of Stage Magic. "Long experience has taught me that the secret to my good fortune is to radiate goodwill towards the audience. There is only one way to do it and that is to feel it. You can fool the eyes and minds of the audience, but you cannot fool their hearts." That, to me, sums up Zatanna.
Zatanna like "Shame couldn't have happened to a nicer guy"
Justice League of America #256
context: the guy has some minor controlling people abilities and used the person Zatanna subletted her apartment to to lure her into a trap and steal her blood and gene therapy himself into being homo magi... ending badly for him
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nimue ravensong icons
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Zatanna #1
I love how, even though she’s not really a part of Brother Night’s crew, Nimue is always ready to throw down when she sees Z.
#zatanna zatara#zatanna#Nimue Ravensong#brother night#ember#romalthi the shaper#teddy#some abe sapian looking guy#Atropos Scans#q
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A VERY DESCRIPTIVE PROFILE OF YOUR MUSE . repost with the information of your muse , including headcanons , etc .
NAME : zatanna zatara AGE : 35. SPECIES : homomagi GENDER : cis female, she / her pronouns. ORIENTATION : bisexual. INTERESTS : magic (both real and stage magic), escape artistry, traveling, learning, music, reading, talking, being in the spotlight, Adventure Time, herbalism, skin care, fashion, fast cars, her feud with taylor swift, Bob’s Burgers, animals, attempting to stay connected to her culture, being a hero, wicca. PROFESSION : stage magician, member of the justice league (of america / dark), police consultant for occult crimes BODY TYPE : tall, slender, lean and muscular, she’s got something close to a dancer’s build EYES : almond shaped, dark brown, she’s got dark circles under her eyes, they’re genetic it doesn’t matter how much sleep she gets. the media tends to call them “bedroom eyes” HAIR : very dark brown almost black, long, thick and wavy. usually professionally styled SKIN : brown but light, she’s not light enough to be white passing but light enough to benefit from colorism in major ways. she’s very conscious of it, or tries to be. will not allow herself to be whitewashed in photoshoots and some magazines have tried. FACE : heart shaped face, dark and thick eyebrows, sharp cheekbones, dimples when she smiles, full lips, nose & ears pierced, turned up nose, very straight and white teeth thanks to the braces she had as a kid. HEIGHT : 5′7″ . COMPANIONS : john con.stantine, mikey dowling, when she was young her father giovanni zat.ara, her cousin zach, various members of the justice league of america / dark, detective dale colton ANTAGONISTS : dr. light, deathstroke, brother night, various enemies of the JLA / JLD, nimue ravensong, fuseli, mammon, oscar hampel, witch hunters, COLORS : honestly all colors FRUITS : mango, blackberries, raspberries, strawberries, apples, mandarin oranges, figs, pomegranate, grapes DRINKS : tea, coffee, water ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ? wine, champagne SMOKES ? she did when she was younger, but she’s stopped DRUGS ? pot honestly pretty regularly - edibles always DRIVERS LICENSE ? yes
TAGGED BY : just stole from the dash TAGGING : anyone who wants to do it just steal it from me!
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i have got to stop reading comics
#i genuinely dont know how to tag this. like idk good luck im pulling the ripcord i'm outta hereNDBHG#dc comics#satin satan#allura#nimue ravensong
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Zatanna: Everyday Magic
I get the feeling that this is gonna get him in some trouble, but also that Constantine is the sorta guy that gets in trouble for pretty damsels in distress alot.
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Zatanna: Everyday Magic
I guess I feel a little less bad about Z leaving her to a hoard of angry naked men now that I’‘ve seen Nimue with her knife? Yeah no not really. This however is the cosmic retribution she deserves.
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Zatanna: Everyday Magic
#Nimue Ravensong#zatanna zatara#zatanna#posting this alone because I know at least one person in particular would kill for this panel#Atropos Scans#q#everyday magic
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Zatanna: Everyday Magic
And then after that weirdness, they knock each other out.
They should sell Zatanna’s jacket, that is some merchandise I would love to own.
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Suck on this!
#zatanna#zatanna everyday magic#nimue ravensong#suck on this#magic#paul dini#rick mays#dc comics#vertigo comics#comics#00s comics
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John Constantine! It's been too long.
#john constantine#constantine#hellblazer#zatanna everyday magic#nimue ravensong#magic castle#demons#it's been too long#paul dini#rick mays#vertigo comics#comics#magic#00s comics
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