#Natlan controversy

[ehatnow]

i think genshin is one of the most ungrateful fan bases out there.

we get 20 free pulls, a free 5 star of our choosing, more rewards for upgrading the statue, unlocking shrines of depth, and offering pyro sigils, 500 primogems from completing the AQ, new mechanics, new places to explore, new characters to explore with, an amazing trailer, and what do people do?

complain.

ive seen people say that they dont like the new wishing mechanic, people calling capitano a twink, people saying that mavuika's hair is ugly, people saying that theyre only being generous because of the "boycott." like why are you still playing the game if you have this much to complain about?

the biggest complaint, of course, is that hoyo "whitewashed" the characters. and no, im not racist, no, im not a hoyoverse dickrider. dont be like the people on twitter who will assume that youre racist just because you like the designs of the natlan characters. i say "whitewashed" because yes, they do take a lot of inspiration from aztec gods, a lot of them are named after gods or have names from aztec origin. but that doesnt mean they are those aztec gods, theyre just named after them.

do i think its okay for hoyo to make almost all of them white? no not really. do i care that they made them all white? again, no not really.

im going to keep playing the game because i like it and i like the world that hoyo built. you dont have to agree with what i said, you dont have to like it at all. just respect my opinion. and if you dont like my opinion, block me.

thats about all i wanted to say. have a good day to anyone who read this far, and a good day to those who didnt as well.

[blackwolfflame]

I want to preface my last post by saying a boycott isn't not going to work.

Genshin is Hoyo's cash cow. You wanna know another company that's dealing with players boycotting their cash cow? Valve with Team Fortress Two. And it's working.

#fixtf2 has actually created change. Bot hosting accounts are getting permabanned from the game, like the players have been begging Valve to do.

So, am I saying a Genshin boycott is useless? No. I'm saying changing currently existing character designs is. We can still push for a more diverse cast. They have released characters from past regions before (Mika, Baizhu, Kirara, Chiori), we juzt need to push for these types of characters, and future, unrevealed characters for upcoming regions, to be POC.

[nautilus-null]

In my opinion, I think it’s important to consider WHY people DON’T want more dark/brown skinned characters in Genshin. (This goes for many types of media with the same issue, but I am speaking about Genshin because I am in the fandom)

People are capable of being undiscriminatory/generally not racist in their day to day life and still holding discriminatory and harmful views. Whether it be unintentional bias or just plain ignorance, it’s still very much possible. In my opinion, this is directly linked to the idea of NOT wanting more diversity in Genshin. I don’t accuse these people who don’t have issues with the lack of representation of being racist, I accuse them of being scared to see different people being represented.

I am personally not suffering from the lack of representation. I am not part of the cultures that are being blatantly disrespected. But it also does not affect or harm me in any way to see more groups being shown correctly.

I think that many people who don’t want more diversity are incorrectly thinking that more representation will negatively impact them. Or, perhaps, that because they aren’t part of the group being disrespected, the issue doesn’t affect or concern them at all. Neither of these are the case. Respecting every culture is important, whether you’re part of said group or not, and doing so doesn’t harm anyone.

Once again, I’m not actively accusing people of racism. But if you think that the problems in Genshin don’t concern you, or you’d rather not have them solved, please do consider why. It may be because you’re scared of more diversity, which is a harmful view to hold.

[k1ttygam3r]

Before anyone asks (considering Genshin is highlighted in my fandom list, meaning it’s a current hyperfixation), yes. I am aware of the Natlan controversy and its egregious colorism. And no, I do not support it in the slightest.

I joined relatively late in the game’s lifespan, joining the fandom around Sumeru’s release. Due to everything concerning that region, I made an oath to never buy anything from the game. To this day, I’ve never went back on my word, and this recent update made me glad I didn’t.

While I can still find enjoyment in the game itself, it’s incredibly disappointing to see the colorism in Natlan. It’s especially disheartening to realize that if they cared enough, this could’ve been actually decent if they abandoned their racist tendencies.

In my opinion, seeing something bad that could’ve been good is heaps worse than seeing something bad that’s always been bad. Thinking about a “what could’ve been” that’s better than the “what is” just hurts me on a whole different level, you know?

Because of this, I’m choosing to stay away from discussions about this particular subject for the sake of my mental well-being.

However, that doesn’t mean that you should simply ignore this situation. This is a problem that has gone on for far too long, and has only gotten worse over time.

But enough of my yapping. I’m white, I’m not of the people that have been hurt by this racism. I don’t think it’s my place to speak of this in any more detail.

If you want more info of how to boycott HoYoVerse, I suggest you take a look at @hyvboycott and especially their pinned post.

Do what you can. Let HYV know that they won’t get away with this.

[jollywasnthere]

So are we just going to ignore how messed up the Pyro Archon's name is?

For those who don't know, her name is Murata. Which is scarily similar to the extremely racist Spanish term "Mulato/Mulata" used to refer to children of black people with white people aka mixed races (And by the way! Is most of Latin America's population)

""Mulata": In the Spanish language, it referred to the mix between a donkey with a mare. The enourmous pejorative term is even bigger when you say "Exportation type Mulata", reiterating the black woman body as merchandise. The word refers to the idea of seduction"

And before anyone says "Stop being dramatic it's just because of Himeko Murata" I would like to ask you some questions:

1. Why did it have to be with Natlan?

2. Why would they use a JAPANESE name?

3. Why did they choose the archon?

Oh, and reminder that Natlan is inspired by Africa and Latin America, the exact countries where this word is used as a derogatory term.

And not to mention her rumoured design?? What the fuck??? Did they not think it through? It's literally a Spanish colonizer.

I heard people saying that she isn't the real archon but still. It's so unnecessary. Seriously? Murata? Did you really expect people to not notice after changing one letter?

As a Latina I'm so angry at this. They're basically pointing at our history and laughing.

First the lack of ANY character with curls now this? Fuck you hoyoverse.

[kavehater]

I am actually so sick of my tl on twt being flooded by complaints like be so freaking for real if you hate the game just leave stop playing it I promise it’s okay

[kiwisandpearls]

Wait I've been out of the Genshin loop for a while now, what's going on with Natlan??? /gen

nothing it’s just that some people in community had been expressing concerns that natlan might end up having a similar controversy that sumeru did where went teasers and leaks of it first dropped where many of the sumeru characters were shown to be light-skinned (more context for that is that basically sumeru is based off of middle eastern cultures so some people were expecting more diverse skin tones)

And because of the regions natlan has also taken inspo from (which I can’t remember for the life of me) some people have expressed concerns the same thing will happen with natlan, where while they expected more diverse skin tones most of the characters will be light-skinned.

I don’t really have an opinion on the whole thing but that’s what I was getting at with my post on natlan. So basically I’m just wondering if the community has a problem with the current natlan characters’ skin tones or if they’re ok with it

edit: ok so apparently natlan is most likely taking inspo from Latin American and the Aztecs? So take that as you will

[maskednihilism]

@a-hell-of-a-lot-of-muses replied to your post “ooc. I feel like I've been hate crimed against....”:

((Oh god no ;-; It got the sumeru treatment...but worse.))

​ooc. Listen I love Alhaitham, Kaveh and the rest of crewmeru, but yeah that was a yikes.

And I see Natlan ain't any better

[genshin-impact-updates]

Fulfiller of Commissions, Flame Bearer of the Canopy

"This servant of mine is no fool, and nimble too, as far as servants go. His biggest fault is that, no matter how hard you try, you simply can't get rid of him! I mean it — he literally will not die! Have you ever heard of someone falling headfirst off a cliff and still surviving!? Utterly infuriating!"

— K'uhul Ajaw, the self-proclaimed "Almighty Dragonlord"

◆ Name: Kinich

◆ Title: Turnfire Hunt

◆ Huitztlan Saurian Hunter

◆ Vision: Dendro

◆ Constellation: Chimaera Alebriius

"It's one thing to charge a fee for delivering a letter, but charging for being a flame bearer on Turnfire Night? It's outrageous! Is this really a hero of ours?"

"It's not like you just met him today. Surely you'd admit that he does his job well? That's all that matters."

In Natlan, where humans and Saurians live together in harmony, there have always been some who have looked askance at saurian hunters. In a land full of heroes, their practice of assessing commissions and setting a price makes the profession even more controversial.

A cruel, ruthless, cold-blooded killer... Pragmatic, utilitarian, without so much as a hint of chivalrous decorum... In such heartless, damning terms do people describe the young man that never argues back.

But what of it?

As long as the price is right, all commissions shall be fulfilled in a satisfactory manner; all writhing, raging aberrants returned to the Night Kingdom from whence they came.

Once the bearer of the Turnfire name has locked onto a target, there's no looking back.

[zeichannnnn]

⚠️ In regards to the natlan controversy (and Sumeru by proxy)

Do NOT accuse people of being racist just because your skin colour cannot be found in a game. Learn to know that people don't live in the same situation as you.

Please read this fully for the reality of things I'm sorry for getting political, skip if you don't want to interact

I’m kinda sad at the fact that a lot of people are quick to hate, judge, and scrutinise Hoyo without understanding the situation.

With recent teaser of Natlan characters, people are rightfully upset at the fact that the characters shown to hail from Natlan… don’t exactly look the part. With characters lighter than my own skin tone (I’m a Chinese Southeast Asian by the way, heya) people are calling hoyo bullshit and accusing them of being a racist for failing time and time again at giving us characters with POC shades of skin. Now I’m not here to defend Mihoyo for their actions, or to tell you to stop being mad at the situation being the way they are. No, I’m here to shed you some light of how life is as a game company under the rule of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and Xin Jin Ping (XJP cause I won’t be bothered to type his whole ass name)

I've highlighted points of each section

Any pages that requires translations, I recommend using DeepL instead of google translate because you can check the meanings of specific words and it's translation are better (imo)

Skip to the last part if you just want a summarised version

Before we get into the nitty gritty that is Genshin drama, I'll give you a run-down on what and how China works.

check the part "In relation to Genshin's design choices and how China's beauty standard influences it" if you want to go straight on to the point

People’s Republic of China

is a Unitary Marxist–Leninist one-party socialist republic. This means that China is under a one-party (Chinese Communist Party) rule with communism ideology on how they rule and govern the country and socialist standards for how they manage their economy and everything else. [.]

The CCP holds a very nationalistic view

[.] which is commonly used as propaganda [.] for them to garner either sympathy or control over the people of China. These nationalistic view, in its raw and most rudest form, simply states that Chinese people are pure by upholding traditional Chinese culture (that's not even traditionally Chinese, more or less more catered towards communism and the CCP's ideologies which are that they're great and everyone else is wrong) and not mixing themselves or tainting themselves with things that are not pure (i.e. anything that isn't Chinese, from China, belongs to China) This nationalistic views, which glorifies China and detests anything foreign (i.e. culture, language, people, etc.) have led to a lot of xenophobia being built and nurtured inside of China's society [1] [2] [3]

Aside from the CCP's nationalistic views,

China's society is very censored and monitored by the CCP

[.] Google, YouTube, or more specifically, the internet itself is heavily banned by the government, electing the people to use the CCP's private internet that allows them to be monitored 24/7 through IP location and private information. [1] [2] [3] [4] Aside from heavily monitored and controlled internet access, people in the real world are also actively being watched and monitored through CCTV with facial recognition features and an AI that can predict people's action (yes, exactly like the akasha, and yes, Sumeru arc is based on reality, I won't talk about it here but feel free to read between the lines and compare it with the sources and news articles I'm about to drop on you) [1] [2. Behind paywall] [3] [4] [5]

With its censorship in mind, let us talk about what brings us all here:

the gaming censorship in China.

In order for a game to be published in China, whether it's made by an indie or a multi-billion dollar company, the game has to go through a complicated preliminary test made and assigned by the CCP to play, test, and go through your game before publishing it anywhere in Chinese media [.] This test includes you company's paperwork, your game's paperwork, the things you're displaying in your game, and the story it's trying to tell. There are not that many rules on what should and should not appear inside of your game, such as: polyamory, the undead (in both graphic and non-graphic manner), etc. That should be considered tame and should cause no problem, however, we do have a problem with one of the rule given which is: Emphasizing Cultural Sensitivity.

Emphasizing Cultural Sensitivity

in the article I've mentioned before, describes it as "Games should impart “correct” information on politics, law, and history, as interpreted by the authorizing agency." Now what does "correct" information entail? Who fucking knows because truth is relative. Facts, when in the eyes of the CCP, are relative to what they believe is to be right and what they want us to believe is right.

Now with that out of the way, let us get into the main deal.

MiHoYo

(not to be confused with Hoyoverse/Cognosphere which is their international branch) is a is a Chinese video game development and publishing company, founded by three classmates from university Cai Haoyu, Liu Wei, and Luo Yuhao [.] That means that Genshin Impact's development, ever since it was at its infancy, first-established days, and updates until the near future, are all subjected onto that game censorship law that I mentioned earlier. Now you might all be wondering, what does all of those rules have to do with genshin characters having dark skins? To that I point you towards the fact that MiHoYo and the CCP are and have been actively working together ever since around September 2021. [1] [2]

Cooperation between MiHoYo and the CCP

Ever since Genshin Impact's massive hit both nationally and internationally, its massive fanbase has hit the internet no one has ever seen before. It is the first ever Chinese game that has gotten world wide acclaim and with that, new eyes begin to look upon China. It is no surprise to anyone that Genshin is very particular about showing and promoting Chinese culture to the outside world. Genshin has somehow become the face to Chinese culture in just a year, with limited events such as Lantern Rite and Moonchase festival to showcase China's cultural beauty. With world-wide acclaim comes a price, wherein the CCP no longer treats Genshin as "another game" but a tool that they can use to promote and advertise themselves into the global population.

Begin the censorship and micro-manipulation of things in Genshin

New gaming censorship dropped after the Genshin Impact became a hit in the industry, with even Venti and Gorou as examples of characters that should not appear in media published in China (effeminate man) [.] In additional to the list I've linked in the "the gaming censorship in China" section, a lot more additional rules have been added to that list, such as: queer representation, morally grey character, but I what I want you to look at more is the section where "historical elements, including characters, maps and clothing, should conform with mainstream accounts." in addition to that, a self-regulation pact was made between game companies and the CCP that bans any and all content that is deemed "politically harmful" and "historically nihilistic." Now focus more onto that "historically nihilistic" point, what does that mean?

Historical nihilism

is a term used by the CCP and many Chinese scholars to describe research or discussions deemed to contradict an official state version of history in a manner perceived to question or challenge the legitimacy of the CCP [.] TLDR; it's a term used for when what you're saying clashes or goes against what the CCP said. Why is this important you may ask? It's because that now, at this point, if anything Genshin does something—whether that'd be plotline, design etc.—that the CCP thinks shouldn't exist or be represented, they have the lawful right to block or stop it from reaching the final product. Now this, this is what happened to Genshin's Sumeru and Natlan cast.

In relation to Genshin's design choices and how China's beauty standard influences it

white has always been a predominant part of modern Chinese beauty culture, for some reason (I don't know and I'm not going to go that deep into it, research it on your own if you're curious) In fact, it's not only China but also Asian culture in general. White skin has always been hailed as pure and beautiful here in Asia, where the line "as pale as the moon" is a common compliment to give to someone. Skin colour that are tan or even darker are connected to being dirty or stinky. Despite the younger generation not really adhering to that view, the older generation (calling out the CCP here) upholds that standard till this day. Pin straight hair, round eyes, pale white skin, and a thin figure are the standards put upon those born as female. Their male counterpart are not that different, with lean and fit being the preferred body type rather than big muscles or bulky forms.

The reason behind why this is the case is because of Asia's strict social code in rules and appearances. We must appear prim and clean, that means no dyed hair, no tattoos, no piercings, and minimal make-up. Anyone that goes against those rules are regarded as delinquents or deviants that usually break the rules and do criminal activities (despite it not being the case) Having a bulky stature also applies to that list, regardless of what gender you are, and especially for men. You're regarded as dangerous, criminal, bad influence if you look like that in public (this is why we don't have that much bulky characters gang and why we were robbed of heavy muscles Itto orz) (he deffo was very bulky in the original design, probably similar to the Nobushi but it got nerfed in final product)

Given all of that in mind, it's no wonder that Sumeru's and and Natlan's casts are mostly white... but were they always that way?

The original skin colour design for Natlan cast might've been darker than what we have in the final product.

As a lot of people have mentioned (especially with the many beautiful edits I'm very fond of) the character designs for Natlan's new up-coming rosters looks better with darker skin tone. Take for examples this edit right here:

taken from @ rarepairz on twitter [source]

Their designs (with darker skin tones) seem to pop more, giving highlights onto their clothes and accessories in comparison to the original design. Here are more examples of this happening:

taken from @ Wabs_nabs on twitter [source]

It is especially clear to anyone with basic colour theory that the colour used for designing the clothes and accessories and highlights in the hair look better with darker skin colour. There is *intent* on making it this way in comparison to woeful ignorance of making them look white as hell. If they were to intentionally to make the characters look white, they would've chosen a better colour for the clothes, less bolder ones and eye-popping ones to contrast with the already luminescent light that's emitting from the skin.

And this is not the case for only Natlan, by the way! The same thing happened when the Sumeru cast was first leaked. Case in point this:

taken from @ animuswonder on twitter [source]

and my personal art of Cyno and Nari:

Look at how much contrast there is between their colour palette or how much resonance there is, with Cyno his more cold-colour attire and hair, in comparison to his deep dark warm skin or Tighnari that's the epitome of a "spring girl" like come on man. There's INTENT in those designs, to have more darker shades than they are in the game. Sadly, they just can't do it due to censorships. Why? Because, as I have mentioned before, darker shades of skin are represented as dirt here in Asia as we glorify pale skin more.

The representation of uniqueness and differences in Chinese game is not common due the fact that most Asian countries are homogenous, which means they prefer everyone and everything to be the same, to look the same, and follow and do the same things. They do not advocate for uniqueness, they do not advocate for individuality, they advocate for us to conform and to follow like a sheep in a herd. Because of that, most people spend their whole life trying to whiten up their skin, keeping them light, and those who are darker than most are shown prejudiced and scrutinised.

Mentioning again the fact that MiHoYo and the CCP are working closely together, Genshin Impact is currently being used as a cultural weapon by the government. With MiHoYo showing numerous time that they've donate and support Chinese cultural heritage, the CCP is using that fact and holding control over Genshin as a way to promote and advertise sympathy towards Chinese culture and the Communist regime by proxy. It's like how your parents are getting you to eat broccoli brownies in hopes that you'd eat normal broccolis and other vegetables by proxy. Everything and anything that Genshin shows in its game are now under close inspections of the CCP and colourism especially will not fly-by their radar.

In conclusion

Your anger and hatred towards the new characters’ designs are justified, however the person you aim those anger and hatred should not be towards Mihoyo, or Liu Wei, or any of the staff members but towards the situation and the laws and the local government MiHoYo has to adhere to.

We're already lucky to have MiHoYo even wanting to represent and shpw different cultures from different parts of the world, telling us engaging stories, and incentivising us to think more and to be be more of us instead of following the crowd and to judge those in power (if you are literate and have the ability of a 6th grader, you know the theme Genshin Impact is showing in its story). In a world where they aren't able to live as freely as people outside of mainland do, they shouldn't have to put their life at risk by creating a game that goes against the CCP's laws that will lead to a deduction to their social points (yes, those actually exist, WAKE UP). Yet they do, they update every month, telling stories, creating characters with many characteristics that goes against Chinese gaming laws, just for us to enjoy.

Do NOT accuse people of being racist just because your skin colour cannot be found in a game. Learn to know that people don't live in the same situation as you.

You are right to be mad, you are right to be upset, but do not condemn them for something they hold no power to. It's between their lives and your fantasies and if you choose to value your delusion over their livelihood then that just shows what kind of a person you are.

Where's this conviction towards other game companies aside from MiHoYo? Where's the rightful air when it comes to companies that breathe much fresher air? Do they not have the same responsibility? Or is it because you actually do not care and merely want to point your unbridled emotions towards something or someone? If so, you're pointing at the wrong person.

[womenswrongssupporter]

As the Genshin Natlan controversy rages on, I feel the need to rant

Holy frick Arknights gets away with so much shit. The game has three times as many nations as Genshin does, yet compresses all brown, black, and American indigenous cultures into a single country (Sargon) vs Genshin's two. The vast majority of playable characters to come from the region are white, and includes Manticore's belly dance and Gavial's white girl dreadlocks (yes I like Gavial, but this is still notable when 15/20 Sargon operators are white). Of the NPCs, there are some good designs (Picale Tulla is very cool), but also I have to note that, throughout the entire history of this game's story where there is a disease that makes you a potential explosive after death, the singular suicide bombing in the story is done by one of the brown Sargonian NPCs.

And of course, there's this lovely passage from Carnelian's profile

She may seem charming and open, getting along with the other operators well, and always wearing a smile on her face, but it would be a mistake to forget Carnelian hails from Sargon. All those who fought alongside her described her with words like "fierce," "violent," and "cruel." The elegant, exquisite techniques she demonstrates in battle are all facades imposed upon her by Leithanien to hide her primal thirst to attack. Carnelian doesn't try to hide her true self much. No matter the circumstance, she does things according to her principles. Be it the kindness she shows her friends or her cruelty toward those she sees as her enemies, she will never hold back. Leithanien can never truly keep such a Sargonian in check.

Reminder that this singular nation out of 23 is the only representation for any brown, black, or American indigenous culture (the Wendigos don't count because the name seems to be a self aware joke on Wendigos being confused with Leshy in popular culture and Arknights Wendigos both resemble the latter and are based on Slavic culture), so making this one nation the savage one is not a good look!

[ehatnow]

Someone said it should not be considered radical to want to be represented in media, especially if said media wants to represent those people (I think a voice actor said that) and it's so true and valid and I do agree.

Thing is, it's ridiculous how people claim that they want to boycott the game and still play it. Someone wrote that into their signature "boycott genshin" yada yada but still continues to play it. If people would actually wanna boycott it they'd stop playing. Like huh? And then they get mad at people for still enjoying the game. Some even have the nerve to say that it's way too easy now, like what? Getting more rewards is taking away all the fun? They say they are just mad because they literally bought crystals but nobody even forced them like huh? It's a conscious decision they make themselves and try to blame everyone and everything else except themselves.

I'm so embarrassed to be in this fandom.

Anyways sorry for the rant, just wanted to tell you that yes, this fandom is indeed so incredibly ungrateful and brainless too on top of that.

Let's focus on the positive side and look forward to Natlan (and more lore LETS GOOO!)

i dont have anything to add to this except I CANT WAIT TO EXPLORE NATLAN

natlan looks so pretty in all the trailers

[blackwolfflame]

So, I kinda wanna address the Natlan controversy.

For those of you who don't know, the game Genshin Impact has been recently called into controversy over the next nation, Natlan, because the characters are very light skinned, despite being based off of, and named after, South America/Indigenous people.

Now, am I pissed that there's not more diversity? Yes, I am. I'd love a more diverse cast.

The problem is we enabled this behavior.

Approximately two years ago, when Sumeru was being teased, this exact situation happened. People were pissed at the lack of POC characters for a nation based on the Middle East. But what happened the moment Sumeru released? Everyone swiped their cards and made Hoyoverse (The company that owns Genshin) big bucks.

We, as a community, have allowed Hoyo to believe that they can do whatever they want with other cultures to design their nations, even if the people who live there aren't represented.

Do I believe forcing Genshin to change character designs that already exist will change anything? No. They are a company. They do not care. They never have, and they know that if they make a character powerful enough, the community will easily forget the controversy, just like most forgot the Sumeru one.

It is a problem on both sides.

[yandere-wishes]

Maybe this is a bit of a controversial idea, but hear me out. I really love the Natlan travel mechanics (especially Mualani and Kachina), and I can't help but imagine a mechanic like that for Sumeru characters! Maybe they use flying carpets, sand/desert sharks, or sand serpents/worms. I especially like the idea of a character using a flying carpet as a skateboard or a sand shark as a surfboard.

Now, onto the "yandere" aspect (because it's me and I have to add this), what about a darling from sumeru who uses these mechanics. Maybe a yandere from sumeru would be used to it and know who to deal with it. But a yandere from another nation would be so shocked and confused. Like it's so easy for their darling to escape them, and it's starting to claw at their nerves.

The more I think about it the more obsessed I get over this concept. Please guys lets discuss this please please please 🙏🏼🥺🙏🏼🥺 I'm even more interested in how the Fatui (Capitano 💋💋) will react to a darling with this ability!!!

[kindatired]

Honestly all of the Natlan controversy would have been avoided if they based the region in Spain

We all know how Hoyo is afraid to fully commit to representation when it comes to other cultures (especially said cultures with people that have a darker skin tone)

Because at this point, the company’s colorism is very clear, because how can you take a figure in West African culture and whitewash them…

If you didn’t want a dark skin character then why did you borrow elements from an African culture? Like there’s another game that does a great example of how Olorun should look like.

Here’s Smite’s Olorun

And here’s Genshin’s “Olorun” and they changed his name to Ororon

I know I shouldn’t had any expectation considering Sumeru but he’s not even tan like Cyno, Candace, or even Dehya.

It really sucks seeing how this major gaming company is scared of having characters with dark skin when there are other companies that are starting to be more inclusive.

You have Nintendo with Pokémon and Splatoon. You then have Arc System with Guilty Gear. Capcom also has better rep with their fighters especially with the latest installment.

You can’t even defend them by saying “It’s a Chinese game” because Dislyte is created by a Chinese company and look at how many dark skin characters they have:

“Well they’ll lose money because dark skin characters don’t sell”

Okay and?

They’re a multi-million dollar company so it won’t even hurt them. And there is plenty of dark skin characters in video games that are very popular with the fan base.

Yeah this was a rush rant but I really need Hoyo to step up their game.

[erabu-san]

First of all, I would like to thank you so much for all your support and your kind message !! Thank you so much for being patient with me too !! (you will see, I thanks a lot in this post lol)

Haha tbh I believe that ignoring and move on is a great way too! Yeees when I read this anon ask, I was wondering if they are living somewhere where pale person are oppressed and they are personally in this case and it affects them so badly that they have so much hate in them or they are just being hateful toward poc w/o any explication ? It was a bit uncomfortable And what is appealing with Genshin Impact (for me) is the fact that they use real culture to create their game ; even in the last survey, they ask if we like Natlan's authenticity (weird they only ask abt environment and music, i think they know they have issue with character design bahaha). I learn a lot about persian, algerian, but also chinese and even about french culture ! It is because people recognize themself that they start talking about it. I know there is a lot of controversial topic in Natlan, but because of this, I learn a lot on Hawai'i 's culture too. So yes, even if it is fiction, representation *is* important. And it is because they take inspiration of their culture that there is people who want a better representation, and in my opinion, this is something to not ignore !

About taking well what anon said, thank you so much ! If i can be honest tho, I didn't take it very well neither, or just I don't know how do I really felt at the moment I am an adult but I still hard time to distinguish what is morally okay or not, what is bad and good ? So if someone doesn't tell me they are explicitly a bad person with bad intention, I won't get it haha (ofc I grew up and now I identify my value and morals, but I still questionning if my morals are objectively great or not- yeaaah i was called weird for that, I am aware) Since forever I always try to understand other so I can communicate properly (at least I try), and that's why I am always interested on how does people think, why do they react in this specific way etc etc. Pro, I am patient and can take even the most violent take "well" (all depends. I am still a human) Con, I give free speech to those who have a "bad" take </3 and I apologize for that aaaa

KFSDLFSD I wish to express my angryness sometime but I just don't know if it is really adequate What if I interpret their text in wrong way as they initially try to say ? I wasn't feel offended by what they said, I was just uncomfortable because their opinion is something I consider hateful. and what if i was wrong??? But reading you all's opinion just affirm that's they were indeed rude ! I should stop overthink, life would be easier Maybe next time I have a doubt I will ask my friends's opinion before answering ksdkfsf

Oh my god thank you !!! If i can be honest, I draw Kinich this way because when I draw him w a darker skin for the first time, I thought "Oh !!! he looks so cool !!!!" and seeing a lot of positive comment abt my Kinich just makes me happy so I keep him like this ! And thank you for sharing with me informations !<<333 This is not overstepping at all ! And it is a reciprocate feeling anon ! It might be a bit weird but "angry" is such a complex feeling for me. I feel it but I don't really know how to express it in the most healthy way and it is super frustrating. So... seeing people getting mad at something I also disagree on makes me feel better !! And for this, thank you all !

I SNORT SO HAAAARD Damn Macron you again..........!! I didn't put all ask here but I read them all !! Thank you for sharing with me your opinion and reaction, it is truly interesting (and way more relaxing that the hater anon kskskss) !! and again, your support is truly meaningful for me. You all have sincere gratitude Hope y'all have a great day !! Stay hydrated too <3