#NO ONE can convince me Bane does not love Bruce Wayne like mixed feelings on Batman to be sure but he LOVES Bruce okay
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righteousruin · 2 years ago
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sorry i'm being emo i just think a lot about how dr thompkins apologized to bruce when she found out bane wasn't his brother and how bane wanted to stay and fight batman after saving him because he doesn't know any other way to be a part of his life and he wants to be a part of his life but nobody else wants him in bruce's life and he doesn't know if bruce even wants him there but being his brother would have made it an obligation to them both because they don't have any other living relatives and I just think about how they both found comfort in the idea that they could have each other for family but neither of them knew how to deal with that without the obligation because that's insane bane's done so much harm but hey he can be a rehabilitation project so bats offered him help and bane is so proud but he took it because he WANTS to be better he just genuinely does not know HOW but he waNTS TO trY and I JUST LOVE THEM YOUR HONOR
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princesssarcastia · 4 years ago
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so i’m re-watching the nolan!verse batman movies—actually, just dark knight and dark knight rises, because I have issues with batman begins (starting with how much younger rachel is than bruce and ending with the fact that they made ra’s al ghul (ghuel?) white in a non-critical manner))
and like they’re fucking grimdark, obv, and bruce wayne being a slightly misogynistic loner with no friends or family is my least favorite interpretation of him.  but they scratch a few very specific itches that I have, and they also like. inspire a lot of thought:
rich assholes getting their comeuppance? excellent. dagget (in DKR) is a real punch-able asshole and bane snaps his neck like a twig, but only after this exchange: he gets real fucking close to dagget like implying he’s going to physically hurt him, and dagget says, “i’ve paid you a small fortune” and then bane says, “and this gives you power over me?” and then, snaps his neck.  gotta love it.
actually bane’s got a lot of anti-capitalist rhetoric, which of course they could only give to the villain, but still. and the scene where he tears down the dent act (which was appalling) and blows up a prison is also like, kinda cool.  even if bane was a weird terrible character.
that’s kind of a theme in the trilogy though? like obviously the joker sucks™, but that one comment about how a “gangbanger”  dies and nobody panics, but he threatens to kill one little mayor and everybody loses their minds, is...hmm. striking.
and heath leger’s performance as the joker is still top ten ever. regardless of your thoughts on the content of that performance, leger still inhabits it like a second skin. he’s utterly convincing and utterly unhinged and I still like it.  I know that’s like an edgelord opinion but I admired edgelord-leger-joker before the irl edgelords did, so its fine
i fucking love anne hathaway’s catwoman.  i love it.  she’s phenomenal. she wears knife high heels longer than my index finger and steals from the rich and its implied that she gives a lot of it away to people who need it.  and also I stand by my headcanon that she didn’t go back for bruce, she went back to help him save gotham, because she loves their city just as much as he does.
i think pre-two-face harvey dent was also very enjoyable.  he’s an asshole.  he’s a golden haired crusading asshole with too much pride who cared too much about the wrong things and he’s like.  one of my favorite parts of the trilogy.
there’s a fascinating mix of excellent criticism of policing in the u.s. and pure copaganda in these films.  like batman begins and the dark knight make it pretty clear that the police force are little more than another kind of mob, who do a lot of harm to the whole city, and jim gordon and john blake are literally the only two cops worth a damn, and even they have issues.  but then the last twenty minutes of dark knight rises are like pure copaganda.  that whole “army of cops against an army of criminals” bullshit is pretty disgusting
also the fact that in dkr the u.s. government just....let.....bane..........hold an entire city hostage..............is so funny
the idea that fearing death is actually a good, powerful, driving force also makes me feel some kind of way.  get the fuck out of here with this semi-suicidal batman bullshit, i only want batman who learns to live again by learning that he doesn’t actually want to die
the music? impeccable.  imPECCABLE. hans zimmer is a god. 
“death...by exile!” lmaooooo still fucking hilarious
the most interesting thing about these films, though, is their commentary about the surveillance state and the age of information.  i honestly don’t think that they would make these movies with this message if they made them today. 
the idea from dark knight that being able to collect personal data from people’s cell phones and use it to further private goals without those people’s knowledge or permission, is horrifying and should be stopped is a really powerful statement to make considering how much personal data corporations are collecting about each and every one of us.
and catwoman’s whole motivation in dkr is about how much personal information about our lives and our pasts are publicly available on the internet to anyone and can make it hard to start fresh and change who you are, to become better.  this is also true, especially with the way mob mentality has taken over a significant portion of the internet
i know that there’s another post floating around comparing this to whatever the hell was happening in spiderman: far from home, and i agree with it wholeheartedly
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