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eleore · 7 years ago

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Magi Monday Vol.5

“What’s to come for Team Sindria?”, A Special round-Table Talk ft Ohtaka, Ohtera, & the Editors (Part 2)

(From the Sinbad no Bouken Fanbook)

Warning: As usual, please note that my level of Japanese is basic at most, so I cannot guarantee that the following is 100% accurate. Feel free to share the link, but please DO NOT REPOST, and don’t forget to support the official releases!!

In which Ohtaka, Ohtera, and the editors for Magi and Sinbad no Bouken continue discussing many things of great importance, this time including Dragul’s misfortunes, Sinbad’s attitude, and the future of the series.

Note: This chat features 5 people:

OS --> Ohtaka Shinobu

OY --> Ohtera Yoshifumi

E1 --> Magi’s Editor

E2 --> SnB’s Editor

The interviewer is in bolded text.

Once again, thanks to @mari-m-rose for requesting this topic :)

THE HAVE-NOT MAN DRAGUL

As for Dragul, I wonder what will happen with Serendine.

OY: Their feelings for each other have already been sorted in the Manga One app.

E1: Reading it in Manga One? Or more like feeling like waiting for volumes 11-12? (T/N: Not sure about this one).

OY: There is also the feeling of what will happen with Saher-san now.

OS: However, I think that if Dragul had tried harder, Sinbad wouldn’t have become that kind of person. Instead of a King of the Mountain attitude, something more, like... .

E1: But Sinbad isn’t a bad person, isn’t he.

OS: He isn’t. However, he didn’t let any of his subordinates capture a Dungeon. He didn’t think that anyone could be superior to him.

E1: Well, he is the High King of the Seven Seas. His self-confidence is special, isn’t it? As I thought, men of the sea are strong! (laughs).

OY: At first, Dragul had this sort of rivalry with Sinbad, right... .

E1: When they were at Baal’s Dungeon, Sinbad mercilessly beat him up. Dragul was all “I can’t lose”, he really was trying hard.

OY: In many ways, Dragul is such a pitiful guy... . Compared to Sinbad, he is a “have-not”.

E1: He is a serious good guy.

OY: He is a normal person.

E1: I’m looking forward to seeing Dragul’s brother. What will he do going forward...?

OY: Barbarossa’s turn begins now. (T/N: <insert YGO joke here>).

MYSTRAS IS SINBAD’S EQUAL?

What about Mystras?

OS: He is best friends with Sinbad, right?

E1: He does not consider Sinbad his master.

OY: In his country, everyone around him was very serious, while he acted without restraint. Among the members [of Team Sindria], he might be the one to feel the most equal to Sinbad.

E1: Sinbad does not make him nervous. He is a good guy. Surprisingly, he is the most popular.

OY: Spartos is the most Sasan-like person, but he really respects Mystras. (...)

Hiding one eye is part of Sasan’s doctrine?

OS: It is.

MASRUR IS A “MY PACE�� GUY

Masrur used a sword as a child, but he does not use one anymore?

OS: That’s because he is stronger when fighting with his bare fists.

OY: It all just a show, that’s why he used a gigantic sword.

Masrur hasn’t changed that much between Sinbad no Bouken and Magi. He is still taciturn.

E1: I think that taciturn people are taciturn all their lives.

OS: I see.

E2: Something like feeling that there is no meaning to speaking... or rather, being self-contained.

Masrur is like that, isn’t he.

E2: Because he speaks little, there his words have weight. Something like that.

E1: In the Magi anime, he did not talk much, so I felt sorry for his voice actor.

OS: Hosoya-san, I apologize... (T/N: That’s Masrur’s seiyuu).

E1: If we put all his lines together, Hosoya-san talked for about 30 seconds... .

OY: Even after becoming an adult, Masrur is still a man of few words.

E1: His personality didn’t change at all~. I thought so, it’s because he is strong.

OS: It’s because he is a “my pace” kind of person. People like that have strong hearts.

E1: Even Sinbad’s once broke during his time as a slave, yet Masrur’s heart never broke down.

SHARRKAN’S UNIVERSITY DEBUT

Sharrkan has changed quite a lot.

OS: It’s like an university debut. While they originally weren’t like that, as soon as they are out, it’s like yeah!.

E1: I think that’s cool.

OS: It was Sinbad’s influence. Sharrkan hated his gloomy self. For sure.

OY: He also was a serious person.

E1: (I don’t completely know how to properly translate this one, but he says something like Sinbad being natural at it, while Sharrkan while Sharrkan worked hard to become a flashy guy... or something like that).

E2: It feels like he is playing the part of a flashy guy.

OS: I wonder is Sharrkan was a lustful man in the first place.

E1: He likes himself like that. For sure.

Pisti felt something about Sinbad, didn’t she? (T/N: Not in the “have feelings” sense, but in the “there is something special about this person”).

OY: It’s was probably something she felt instinctively.

E1: They only become comrades much later.

Pisti is popular.

E1: She can manipulate male animals.

OS: That’s mean.

E1: Her mother also seems to have many husbands.

E2: Are all her husbands alive?

OS: Meaning?

E1: Maybe she drops them in the Valley of Death when they incur her anger.

OY: Ahh... when drawing the floor of the valley, I purposely didn’t draw human bones, because thinking about it was scary.

Well then, lastly, what will happen in Sinbad no Bouken going forward?

OY: I’m aiming to connect the story to the point in Magi’ where Sinbad comes out wearing just that leaf. There are one or two big adventures before that, and I’ll do my best to make it enjoyable.

Thank you very much.

And so, the interview comes to an end! That really was way more than I actually do in one go @_@. Still, it was interesting! Good to know they intend to do everything until the end, but... we will see.

Next week we most likely will have a certain redhead’s profile... now then, who could that be...?

#magi #sinbad no bouken #magi monday #sinbad #mystras #drakon #masrur #sharrkan #pisti #mira dianus artemina #my translations

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caithyra · 8 years ago

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Themes and Narratives and Final Battles

So, I said that I would take a look at which characters have more personal narrative and thematic weight to be in the Final Battle against Sinbad than the quartet we got.

Okay, first thing first, Hakuryu and Judar should not be there. Or rather, either the opponent is Sinbad, in which case many other characters have narrative and thematic precedence over Hakuryu and Judar, or the opponent is not Sinbad but someone personal to Hakuryu and Judar. Since the opponent is Sinbad, we’ll go with that...

So, first and most obvious is that Alibaba and Aladdin are there not because of their strong, thematic reasons to oppose Sinbad, but because they are Main Characters.

That means Morgiana has as much a right to be there as they. Perhaps even more as she is of the oft-enslaved and magically resistant Fanalis, and what Sinbad is doing is... yeah. Anyway, if Alibaba and Aladdin are there, Morgiana should be as well, since they have the same reason.

But being a main character is a pretty poor excuse for a character be somewhere or do something, without much of a Watsonian reason. It makes them feel artificial and inhuman. So lets discard the characters who are there just because they are main characters, and lets take a look at others...

First, lets see if we can scrounge up seven metal vessel users for the seven trials!

Ren Kogyoku and Ren Hakuei are self-explanatory. Sinbad has used and abused them with complete disregard for them as people. Kogyoku is also the one who seems that have the largest magoi-pool outside being a singularity of the king vessels, from a physical fire-power standpoint (she fires Supreme Magics and then is ready for more, meanwhile others are barely holding onto their Djinn Equips and needs to seek outside sources of magoi). Hakuei also has the largest household, meaning that she is great leader capable of inspiring a huge number of people to pledge their bodies and souls to her (a bit like Sinbad, except greater since households by definition pledge their lives and he only managed that with seven, while she has at least a hundred). As a bonus, we get female characters in the final battle!

Darius Leoxses, Mira Dianus Artemina and Armakan Amun-Ra. They are the foundation of the Seven Seas Alliance, but it was not voluntary. They were forced on threat of their kingdoms’ annihilation and the deaths of their people and children to bow to Sinbad. So in truth, they joined the Seven Seas Alliance and unquestioningly followed Sinbad on the condition of their people being alive and thriving. On top of that, their children and brother joined Sinbad’s household to directly serve him.

All on the condition that their kingdoms remain alive and thriving.

Sinbad now wants to kill everyone in the world and abolish borders/kingdoms (yet for some reason established a monarchy in Imchakk? Wat?).

While we’ve seen a closer connection highlighted (by the fact that Alibaba is a main character) between Sinbad and Alibaba, Darius, Mira and Armakan have greater reasons and longer associations with Sinbad, and have sacrificed far more (do you really think every time Sinbad summoned their armies to fight his battles everyone returned alive? Without pathogens previously unknown to their isolated kingdoms?).

Ren Koen and Mu Alexius are set up as Sinbad’s counterparts, both by age, and in Koen and Sinbad’s cases, in the colors of their clothes (Sinbad is primarily white, and Koen is primarily black) and main Djinn Equips (Sinbad’s blue-cyan, and Koen’s orange, those are complimentary, opposite colors). Sinbad is a singularity with great stores of magoi and knows magoi manipulation, while Mu is a Fanalis which means very little magoi but is resistant to its manipulation.

Furthermore, they represent empires which mirrors Sinbad’s alliance, only that Sinbad has gone through great pains to make it seem like they’re not (in the end, threatening to blow up Babel if the King does not agree to Sinbad’s terms is not unlike Ko or Rem rolling in with their armies and forcing the nation to submit to their rule. Both situations carry explicit threats if the vassals fail to do as the new sovereign demands).

Furthermore, Sinbad is from the Parthevian Empire:

The Rem Empire is an old empire which is solid at its foundation and while not pure by any stretch of imagination, has remained remarkably untouched by underground organizations seeking to corrupt governments.

The Ko Empire is an upstart new empire using the old ways to expand rapidly and grow, and is easily influenced by underground organizations manipulating their government such as Al Thamen.

The Parthevian Empire is old like Rem, but behaved like Ko when Sinbad lived there and is corrupted as such by Al Thamen and similar groups. It has now become a vassal state of Sinbad’s, while the other two resists and remain sovereign.

On a more personal level, Koen has never understood Sinbad and Sinbad has never tried to make himself understood to Koen, because he dislikes Koen based on Koen being a Ko prince, while Mu has never liked Sinbad while Sinbad has made overtures towards Mu, possibly because Mu leads an army of Fanalis. Meanwhile, Koen and Mu seem to get on despite being on completely different sides on major stuff which they share Sinbad’s opinion of, like how Mu is against slavery, Koen makes use of slavery though he seems not to like it but he is more neutral than Mu and Sinbad in his voiced opinions (possibly not to talk bad about dear old Hakutoku whose will Koen was fulfilling?), and Sinbad is against it but will personally enslave the world to get his wishes fulfilled.

Furthermore, the desires and goals of everyone involved are:

Ren Koen: Wants to protect his empire, people and especially his family.

Mu Alexius: Wants to protect Scheherazade’s empire, end slavery and protect the Fanalis.

Sinbad: Wants to kill everyone, abolish all borders (such as empires), especially hurts Koen’s family, and does so by magical enslavement.

On top of that, Koen was recognized by Judar and Aladdin (and, to a lesser extent, Arba) as a King Vessel. Mu was, if not recognized, doted on by Scheherazade and Yunan, and apparently Titus has no problems with him. The only Magi Sinbad could muster to his side before Arba and David did not like him, choose him reluctantly, and then pretty much washed his hands of him. We even see Sinbad almost desperate to make Aladdin Sindria’s magi, and he repeatedly entertains the notion of bringing Judar to his side despite everything that happened before the Labyrinth of Magic started.

And speaking of magi, Yunan. This is a no-brainer. He has that foreshadowing moment with Sinbad’s mother. He is at least Sinbad’s magi in theory, if not in practice. He also seem to often disagree with Sinbad and Sinbad’s methods, even though he is tired of this world’s destiny jerking him around (thus Sinbad’s proposed “just world”-argument would actually make him waver).

Yunan could take care of Arba, thus continuing their earlier battle, while the aforementioned king vessels take the trials. It could also be that Sinbad supports another magi when he really, really wants Yunan’s support instead thus making both sides conflicted, especially since Yunan promised to look out for Sinbad and not kill him.

But if we look outside magi and metal vessels, we have seven of Sinbad’s household and seven trials: Sinbad’s Household.

Putting the trials aside, Yamraiha could deal with Arba and do better than Yunan and Judar, thus showing that the extraordinary can rise above their allotted destiny (since she is a mere sorceress and not a magi, she should have lost).

Ja’far already said he’d kill Sinbad if Sinbad goes the wrong way. Drakon was already set up as a rival of Sinbad in Adventure of Sinbad. Masrur was a former slave who now has a family to protect, yet is being enslaved into wanting the deaths of his children, despite the fact that he joined Sinbad precisely to get out of slavery. Sharrkan and Pisti could compare notes, now that they are adults, of how their nations joined the SSA, causing Spartos to ask Darius which leads all three of the outer circle to learn that the SSA isn’t as ideally founded as they remembered, and also how forced their parents/brother were and their true nature as hostages. This could cause Hinahoho to lose faith in Sinbad since he is truly the only General who joined out of his own will without outside pressures such as Barbarossa or parents or whatever, and he loves his kids and is pretty much Team Dad to everyone.

Speaking of Hinahoho, since it is not battles that are important during the seven trials, how about looking beyond magic-users?

Kikiriku. Yes, really. Kikiriku was the first born of Sindria who spent his entire life serving Sindria and Sinbad. Everyone else remembers a life before Sindria, but Kikiriku doesn’t. Furthermore, he lost his mother and had his father away for large swathes of his childhood so that Sinbad could create Sindria.

Then Sinbad just threw away Sindria. Made Kikiriku’s father wish for death and Kikiriku’s siblings as well. Heck, everyone in Sindria is crying with joy at the thought of dying. And Kikiriku’s Uncle Sinbad, who was adopted into his family at the compassion of Kikiriku’s parents, who is Kikiriku’s King and Sovereign, made it happen.

How would Sinbad react if Kikiriku came and argued with him, I wonder? What if Kikiriku shows up bearing Rurumu’s will alongside Yunan bearing Esra’s will?

How about we go even more obscure (I’m sorry, but with Budel, Yamato and Nerva’s sudden increased importance from nothing, it doesn’t matter how much panel-time the characters have had to have importance in the Final Arc): Seylan Dikumenowlz du Parthevia, perhaps? Yes, really. You see, the themes of this manga has been about kings’ responsibilities, and Sinbad is this way because of his childhood in Parthevia. Furthermore, Seylan is only a ruler because of Sinbad according to him, and he lost everything in the past, including his sister, who may or may not have been Sinbad’s lover.

On top of that, without family, his only family-figure was Falan, and I think it’s pretty obvious M:AoS is setting things up so that Sinbad kills her or is the cause of her death. Furthermore, it would be because Falan is Al Thamen, and now Sinbad has allied himself with Arba, the leader of Al Thamen, which would ping some hypocrisy, since if Sinbad was consistent, he never would have done that.

Then there are the Kingly themes of this manga: It is the duty of rulers to guide their people back on the right path when they go astray. Like it or not, Sinbad was born a citizen of Parthevia, and as far as I know, there is no process to renounce that other than having it removed by the ruler of the realm (or his proxies).

It would also cause an interesting dynamic since Seylan is younger and in gratitude to Sinbad, but as the ruler of Parthevia, he needs to be akin to a distant father-figure in handling him. It could also bring up how Sinbad was willing to ignore the suffering of Parthevia’s people just as long as he got his kingdom, and Sinbad could bring up how the royal family ignored suffering even longer, and then Seylan could quietly bring up how Sinbad is blaming the son for the sins of his forefathers (when he’s acted like such an individualist), sparking a debate on destiny.

But yeah, Seylan lost his family and his empire’s sovereignty to Solomon’s destiny, Sinbad’s dreams, and Al Thamen’s worship, so he has plenty of personal reasons to confront Sinbad (and to fall into depravity and out of Sinbad’s control).

Those are all the ones (18 people, that’s quite a lot) I can think of at the top of my head who have more thematic and/or personal reasons to go against Sinbad than the quartet we got.

And two our quartet (Hakuryu and Judar) don’t even have the excuse of being main characters, meanwhile, the third main character is left out (I’m never letting go of how side-lined Morgiana is, am I? It will be in the Unholy Trinity alongside Belial and Mogamett’s staff).

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