#Make BJU Exist Again

[wutbju]

Professor Lonnie Polson posted his comments to the BJU Board of Trustees Executive Committee yesterday.

Now, Lonnie is logical and strategic. I don't think I worked with anyone in the BJU Speech dept who more clearly demonstrated the gift of administration as the Apostle Paul describes it. He's a problem-solver through and through.

So when Lonnie gives advice, honestly? You should listen. Just sayin'. And he told the Executive Committee:

I'm writing to petition the executive committee of the board to name Dr. Gary Weier (or another current administrator or senior faculty member) as interim president. It's been an incredibly stressful year for the BJU family. What the faculty and students need most is a season of stability and healing. My fear is that naming an interim from outside the current leadership would be counterproductive to meeting that need. I believe also that naming a current administrator or senior faculty member as interim would send a reassuring message to those who are considering attending BJU. We have so many potential applicants who have not yet "pulled the trigger" on full application because they're taking a wait-and-see approach. I can't blame them. We could do much to communicate stability and viability to our constituency by appointing a known entity from within the current leadership as the face of the school. Frankly, the primary existential threat to the university is low enrollment. Naming a current administrator or senior faculty member as interim would also allow the board adequate time to recruit and vet a new president without having to onboard a temporary one. I do not presume to speak for the entire faculty, but I'm convinced nearly all of us would give similar input. Thanks for listening.

The big takeaways here are, it seems to me:

The BJU students and employees are exhausted.

Applicants for the Class of 2027 are hesitant.

Low enrollment is imminent and would kill BJU.

A temporary/interim needs to be an internal hire.

Gary Weier would be the best choice.

Lonnie's right, of course. I can't say that loudly enough. When Lonnie gives advice, you should listen.

Will they?

[agrandissement-du-penis]

ANDROPENIS The Proven Science of Penis Traction

Penis Traction is the method used by the ANDROPENIS GOLD to safely and effectively enlarge your penis. Below is a detailed explanation outlining the penis enlargement process and stages your body will go through during the ANDROPENIS GOLD program.

Key Points of How The ANDROPENIS GOLD Works:

Based on the Science of Penis Traction

Promotes Cellular Growth

Proportional growth in both length and girth

Painless natural gains

Exclusive ANDROKIT Enhanced Comfort Technology

ANDROPENIS GOLD

The Enlargement Process — ANDROPENIS GOLD Works in 3 Simple and Easy Steps . Step 1 Wear your Penile Traction Device

A penis extender works by applying a constant light stretch to your penis on a daily basis. This stretching action is a type of tension applied to the penis called "penis traction" which is the very basis behind the science of the ANDROPENIS GOLD. The process is painless and does not interfere with the normal functions of your penis.

Step 2 Microscopic Tears

Exposing the penis to a constant traction (Using the ANDROPENIS GOLD specially calibrated tension system) microscopic tears will begin to form along the shaft. The process is completely pain free. The tears will not be visible to the naked eye and can only be seen through magnification. As these tears occur regularly along the course of the treatment, your body will recognize the gaps created in the penis tissue. As a form of healing, your penis will begin to repair itself by going through a process known as “mitosis” followed by “cytokenesis”.

Step 3 Healing Process: Mitosis & Cytokenesis

Mitosis occurs when cells within the existing penis tissue begin to divide, known as cellular division, where one cell divides into two. The penis tissue cells will divide over and over again to fill in the gaps (tears) caused by the penile traction process. Enlargement can be noticed in both length and girth (thickness). In the simplest sense, the nucleus of a cell divides within itself then splits in two, each containing a mirror image of the original nucleus. The splitting of the two cells, once the nucleus has divided, is called cytokinesis, the final stages of cell division and tissue growth. The cells will rapidly divide over the course of the treatment and will create new tissue for a longer and larger penis.

Final Result Natural Penis Enlargement

The penile traction process is not painful by any means because it consists of a slight gentle tension applied over time. As a ANDROPENIS GOLD user, you get to chose how much traction/tension you want to apply to your penis and how many hours you would like to use it. We offer a selection of recommended programs in the instructions manual, but you may chose to modify the program to accommodate your needs.

What makes the ANDROPENIS GOLD Pro Different?

The ANDROPENIS GOLD The exclusive ANDROKIT support piece allows for the distribution of strain on to two separate silicone tubes, spreading it along the shaft of your penis and eliminating discomfort. The addition of two silicon straps also ensures that the proper tension needed on the penis remains constant and removes all possibility of slippage. Unlike other penis extenders with so called “comfort BANDS” our medical grade comfort pads allow for better circulation within the penis. Proper circulation is crucial to promoting mitosis and cytokinesis leading to penis enlargement.

Medical Journal Abstracts

Revision of penile prosthesis surgery after use of penile traction therapy to increase erect penile length: case report and review of the literature.

Moskovic DJ, Pastuszak AW, Lipshultz LI, Khera M. J Sex Med. 2011 Feb;8(2):607–11. doi: 10.1111/j.1743–6109.2010.02121.x. Epub 2010 Nov 22. Review.Non-invasive methods of penile lengthening: fact or fiction?

Oderda M, Gontero P. BJU Int. 2010 Sep 24. doi: 10.1111/j.1464–410X.2010.09647.x. [Epub ahead of print]Use of penile extender device in the treatment of penile curvature as a result of Peyronie’s disease. Results of a phase II prospective study.

Gontero P, Di Marco M, Giubilei G, Bartoletti R, Pappagallo G, Tizzani A, Mondaini N. J Sex Med. 2009 Feb;6(2):558–66. Epub 2008 Dec 2. PMID: 19138361 [PubMed — indexed for MEDLINE]A pilot phase-II prospective study to test the ‘efficacy’ and tolerability of a penile-extender device in the treatment of ‘short penis’.

Gontero P, Di Marco M, Giubilei G, Bartoletti R, Pappagallo G, Tizzani A, Mondaini N. BJU Int. 2009 Mar;103(6):793–7. Epub 2008 Oct 16. PMID: 18990153 [PubMed — indexed for MEDLINE]Penile elongation and thickening — a myth? Is there a cosmetic or medical indication?

Austoni E, Guarneri A, Gatti G. Andrologia. 1999;31 Suppl 1:45–51. Review.

What to Expect when Using the ANDROPENIS GOLD: Guaranteed Satisfaction or Your Money Back

ANDROPENIS GOLD is a versatile penis extender and can easily be worn throughout most daily activity. The Patented BAND system is designed for absolute comfort and allows you to wear your ANDROPENIS GOLD for longer time periods throughout the day. This results in quicker enlargement gains when compared to existing penis extenders.

Below is a graph of the average results gained from using the ANDROPENIS GOLD. Keep in mind that this is an average based on existing customers data that we have collected over the years. Individuals who use it for longer daily time periods will gain quicker results. Those who use it for even a couple of hours daily will still notice extremely positive results.

ANDROPENIS GOLD

The ANDROPENIS GOLD will arrive pre assembled; all you will have to do is adjust the parts to fit your length. For the first couple of days you should feel a light tension on your penis. Although a strange feeling, it will not be uncomfortable thanks to our unique KONFORT KIT BAND system. Your penis tissue will transition from a dormant state into a growth state within this crucial first month. During this phase your body will begin to prepare the penis receptors to enter into growth mode. You will notice that your erections will become harder and fuller.

This initial change happens because the ANDROPENIS GOLD exposes your penis to a constant stretch; allowing more blood to enter the penile chambers by improving your circulation. The more blood that can fill up the penis chambers (Corpora Cavernosa), the larger and harder your erection will be.

It is also common that visual size increases can be noticed and measured. If you are consistent in your treatment, you will have completed the first phase which prepares your body for optimized cell regeneration. This process is known as the “Introductory phase” where the body begins to adapt and respond to the ANDROPENIS GOLD penis enlargement program.

After the introductory phase, your body has now adapted to the physical influence that the ANDROPENIS GOLD applies through its specially calibrated tension mechanism. At this point, painless microscopic tears will begin to occur within the penis tissue. These painless tears at the microscopic level will be visually undetectable and cannot be felt along the surface of the penis. Your body will naturally sense the gaps within the penis tissue and begin the process of cell multiplication, “mitosis” where the inner cells of the penis tissue begin to divide to fill in the newly created spaces. At this point noticeable changes can be seen in length and girth.

Third Month and On (Week 9 and on) At this point your penis genetic makeup is being re-written at an exponential rate. Your penis tissue cells will be thrown into overdrive as it recognizes that massive amounts of new gaps between each cell have to be filled in. Penis cells will rapidly multiply to compensate for empty gaps within the corpus cavernosum (the spongy tissue the penis is comprised of). The new cells will add to the penis tissue mass which translates to increased penis length and girth proportionately. With the added capacity for blood to fill your penis, you will also increase the strength of your erections. Don’t let the 6 month mark stop you; enjoy limitless potential and permanent results with the ANDROPENIS GOLD Pro penis extender.

ANDROPENIS GOLD Testimonials & Success Stories

If you are currently using the ANDROPENIS GOLD or have done so in the past, feel free share a customer testimonial. Testimonials are a great way to be involved in our community and to help spread the word on a product that works. Keep in mind that we value your privacy and will not display any of your personal information without your conse.

From: Darren , (via email, Houston, Texas)

Dear ANDROPENIS GOLD, I’ve been using the ANDROPENIS GOLD for 2 months now and am extremely please with the results so far. I followed the instructions and am doing everything by the book. In 2 months, my penis has grown from 6.2 inches to 6.7 inches. Better yet, my erections are much harder then they used to be and I find that I last longer in bed. I’m really thankful I found you guys and decided to give the extender a try. I’m going to keep at it until I get my 8 inches! Thank you!

From: Adam , (Via Email, Long Beach, California)

Hey Guys, I ordered the ANDROPENIS GOLD a few months ago and started using it right away. I got the deluxe standard edition and find it to be a easy to wear. I’ve been wearing it for around 60 days and I’m stunned. I’ve already gained half and inch in length wearing the ANDROPENIS GOLD for only 2 hours a day not including weekends. My erections are harder and I gained some girth as well. I’m going to bump up my usage time and give you guys an update soon! Thanks again!

From: S.D. , (Via Email, Long Beach, California)

Dear ANDROPENIS GOLD, Thank you for your product! I believe it is the best on the market, especially for the price. I gained almost an inch after 2 months (soft), and half an inch (erect). It has given me a whole new level of self confidence, and even improved my sexual function!

From: Pat, (Via Email, Ottawa Ontario Canada)

I would like to say that I am a 31 year old male from Ottawa Ontario, Canada. Like most males I was ashamed of my penile size which was 5.5" erect. I found your site and like others did my research and found that all other sites selling penis extenders were way to expensive. I’m glad to find this site and decided to give it a try thus this would be my last hope at lengthening my penis, all in all I would like to thank you guys for making such a great product that actually works and is not a gimmick because I never thought penile enlargement was possible without an operation. I went from 5.5" to 5.75" erect in approx. 2 weeks so I’m proud to say that I am now almost 6" erect and will not quit until am satisfied, I feel the difference and so does my girl friend and it has added so much more sensitivity to my penis and very quick erections at almost nothing. So thank you and keep up the good work.

From: Mark, (via Email, New York, New York)

Here is a testimonial for your website, I am 28 year old male and I work at the hospital. After weeks of research i decided to try the ANDROPENIS GOLD. The science behind it made sense to me. So I ordered it and received it in a few days. The first time I put it on, I felt that this was definitely the right choice. I took the time to measure and decided to keep track of everything like it says it the booklet.

I first noticed a change at about 2 weeks. Mainly in my erect size. I went from 4.8 inches to 4.95 in 2 weeks using it only for about 2 hours a day. The results were encouraging so I started to use it for between 3–4 hours a day and it became a part of my routine. 3 Months later my erect size is at 5.7 inches and I couldn’t be more excited. Most of my friends aren’t even happy with 6 or 7 inch penises but for me, I would of been more than satisfied with that. It was really a big deal for me to be conscious that my size just wouldn’t cut it. I went from being tiny and embarrassed to being close to average and proud. I’m going to keep going until I feel satisfied with my size. I never would of thought in a million years that I could actually change the size of my penis. Thank you for such a great product and keep up the good work.

From: Jhon, (via Email, Los Angeles)

Dear Crew, Well I purchased this product a month ago and I would like to say I am extremely pleased with the results I have gained, I went from 6 inches to about 6.25 in erect length in only a month!!! I will be in contact to reveal my end results. Thank you for such a great product and keep up the good work.

From: Lee, (via Email, New York)

Dear ANDROPENIS GOLD, I purchased your ANDROPENIS GOLD extender 2 months ago and wanted to email you guys to let you know how things were going. First of all, i would like to say the bonuses were definitely worth the money. I’ve been wearing the ANDROPENIS GOLD for about 3 hours a day religiously in the evening while on the couch watching TV. So far, i’m proud to report that I’ve gained a total of 1/2 an inch in length and some girth (I haven’t been measuring my girth my I know it has definitely gotten thicker). I’m really surprised at how much I’ve gained in only 2 months. Thanks again and look out for an update in a few more months!

From: Will, (via Email in the UK)

Hi, Excellent piece of kit. Have been using for around 5 weeks and have went from 7.25 inches hard to 8.1 inches hard. There is a considerable difference in girth of my penis when flaccid and also a difference when hard. I have not adhered to a hourly per day plan but have assured that I use it for no less than 4hrs a day. Now that my penis is fully adjusted to the growth process and coupled with the dual strap system I can comfortably wear the device for several hours a day. Yesterday I had it on for 6hrs with no breaks in the evening before I went to sleep. All in all this is remarkable and only wish that I had come across the ANDROPENIS GOLD a lot sooner. Thank you very much

From: Alex, (via Email, Chicago)

Dear ANDROPENIS GOLD, I found your site while searching Google for information on penis enlargement surgery. I found the concept interesting and since the price was right and there was a 30 day money back guarantee, I decided to give it a go. After reading the booklet that comes with the device, I decided to wear it in the evenings while watching TV in bed. I'm a big movie buff so I wear the device whenever I watch a movie, I figured that would be a good way of forgetting that had it on. 30 days and about 20 movies later, I'm actually amazed that my erections are fuller and i'm almost sure I gained some size as well. I didn't bother to measure my penis before because I wasn't convinced it would work. I'm thinking about wearing it more often to speed up the process, the results so far have been encouraging. I'll be sure to keep you posted!

From: Matt, (via Email, Houston)

I bought your product because of the androkorfort kitthat you are promoting. It only made sense that it would hold the penis better with 2 straps. It has been close to 6 months that I have been using the ANDROPENIS GOLD. My initial size was a little over 4 inches erect. I've grown about 2.5 inches in 6 months so i'm finally in the "average" range. This actually helped my sexual self esteem, I used to always wonder if girls were "faking it" to make me happy. I would like to gain a few more inches to be above average but I think i'll be taking a break for now. Thanks for your help and honesty!

From: Peter, (via Email, Dallas)

I wanted to say your product is awesome. I have never felt more hard and thick. And i actually got results in girth after the first couple of weeks. I just wanted to say thank you for inventing the ANDROPENIS GOLD! Keep up the good work!

From: Luis, (Via Email, Atlanta, Georgia)

Hello, I've been using this almost a month since i bought it. I use it 1 hour daily, at first it was difficult to use the silicone tubes, but after a few days, that was no problem. In fact this double strap gland support is a great new concept, it's so comfortable, like it says, more tension, less pain and quicker results. About me I was 5.5 inches, now, with 1 month of daily usage of 1-2 hours I've gained half and Inch, so I'm now 6 inches long. I am very satisfied with the results. I'll keep on going, I hope I can reach 8 or maybe more, 10 would be perfect to me. Regards, Pablo.

From: S.T., (from London, England)

Hi, I purchased my stretcher through your website. I am 39 years old. After 4 weeks I have noticed significant changes in my penis. Firstly my erections are rock hard again and stay hard without much effort for much longer. Prior to using this device I was struggling to get a full erection and maintain an erection so I am very pleased with this. My penis is definitely thicker and fuller. Before it was lacking in depth but since using this device it is more round improving my girth. Prior to using this device I could pump my penis in a vacuum pump to 5.85 inches. After 4 weeks I am able to achieve 6.20 inches in the vacuum pump so my penis is getting longer too. I find the vacuum pump method of measuring the penis a more reliable method for comparison. Overall, I am very happy so far. Many thanks!

From: Net, (San Francisco)

Ok, I just finished the third month with my ANDROPENIS GOLD, I bought the new device they are selling off the website. All I can say is that i am pretty impressed! 1 inch in length has now been added to my erections and I couldn't be more pleased. A little note to potential customers, don't be macho and READ THE MANUAL. I was struggling to put the extender on at first, until I noticed that there are pictures of how to do it. Anyhow, great product, thanks!

From: Lukas, (Toronto, Canada)

I never thought anything in this world could make my penis bigger. I thought everything was a myth, from pills to creams to patches. I took a chance bought a ANDROPENIS GOLD after seeing an ad in a men’s magazine. I figured I had nothing to lose, there is a 30 days money back guarantee To my surprise I got your package three days after my order was placed. It's been two weeks since I first started using it. My penis feels larger and thicker already and my erections are harder too! I'm looking forward to continue the program and see what else this thing can do for me!

From: Rob, (Denver)

My wife bought me a ANDROPENIS GOLD for my birthday, I thought it was a joke at first, but now i’m thinking it was present for her! To be completely honest I’m not really a small size guy, erect at around 6 ½ inches. I never thought she felt my penis was small but explained to me in a gentle way that I was unable to reach her g’spot because I was too short. I had no idea where it was and never reached it with my finger. With the help of the program, it took 6 months of occasional use and I now stand at 8 inches erect. I’m finally able to hit her g-spot in any position and she is defiantly happy with my gains.

From: Douglas, (Washington)

I've been using this new extender for 2 months now. I must say that it is way comfier than the older version I had been using. This one does not fall off like the other ones do. The mechanisms are smoother than the last extender I had, it feels more sturdy overall. I can wear it for longer because It doesn't hurt at all, so i'm actually getting noticeably better results. I sometimes wear it for an hour a day and i'm still getting results. This is a great redesign, hats off to the engineers at ANDROPENIS GOLD!

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[wutbju]

The people interviewing with the Board are not mincing words.

For instance, no BJU president ever has been an official member of a local church.

Right now you're thinking, "Wait. I know Dr. Bob was a member of [insert the church you attended]." Every BJU person has said that. Every one assumes that BJU's top man was a member at their own church. He can't be a member of Hampton Park, Mount Calvary, and Heritage at the same time.

That means, as candidates have been explaining to the Board, that BJU's top man is under no one's authority. He is at the top of the accountability food chain.

That's not good.

I remember when there was a push for the Administrators to finally join a local church. Only two had been members of a church. When Darren Lawson finally joined Heritage Bible, his son had to be baptized at age 17 in order to join.

Think of it -- a child of a BJU administrator had not received this very important Christian sacrament.

Many other BJU employees never attended any church outside the campus.

They never had communion. Their children or they themselves had not been baptized. That's bad.

This is really bad. No accountability. No baptism. No communion. Can you call yourself a Christian without these things?

[wutbju]

May 16. That's what the +++Positives+++ are saying at least. The BJU Board of Trustees will meet on Tuesday, May 16, 2023 to vote on the next President -- at least the interim president.

[wutbju]

Here's a clue.

If you look at the BJU University Leadership listing, a few things become obvious. Look at the list of BJU employees. Let's cross off the ones that signed that big ultimatum letter to the Board.

Gary Weier, PhD

Alan Benson, DMin

John Matthews, MBA

Bobby Wood, PhD

Steve Dickinson, BS

Carol Keirstead, MS

David Fisher, PhD

Beverly Cormican, EdD

Kevin Taylor, MS

David Lovegrove, BS

Renton Rathbun, PhD

Renae Wentworth, EdD

Darren Lawson, PhD

Brian Carruthers, EdD

Richard Stratton, PhD

Jessica Minor, PhD

Kevin Oberlin, PhD

Neal Cushman, PhD

Pattye Casarow, DMA

Brian Trainer, MDiv

Daniel Smith, EdD

Brian Burch, MBA

Susan Wise, BS

Phillip Gerard, MA

Doug Garland, EdD

Jonathan Daulton, MDiv

Deneen Lawson, BAPCT

Neal Ring, EdD

Let's keep going. Here's who's left. Now there are some folks that are out of the running right off: those with ladybits and those who are behind-the-scenes folks.

Carol Keirstead, MS

Kevin Taylor, MS

David Lovegrove, BS

Renton Rathbun, PhD

Pattye Casarow, DMA

Brian Trainer, MDiv

Daniel Smith, EdD

Brian Burch, MBA

Susan Wise, BS

Jonathan Daulton, MDiv

Deneen Lawson, BAPCT

Neal Ring, EdD

Now who's left?

Renton Rathbun, PhD

Brian Trainer, MDiv

Jonathan Daulton, MDiv

Are these three of the candidates for the next president of BJU? They could be considered "pastors" of some variety.

[wutbju]

When the BJU Board of Trustees purged the recent members, they just so happened to purge a very generous and wealthy donor.

That's gonna be a problem. Did you think of that, +++Positives+++?

[wutbju]

Ten.

As of last week, the BJU Board of Trustees has narrowed the pool of candidates to a whopping total of ten.

WutBJU is in contact with one of the interviewees, btw.

They've had months, and they only are now narrowed to ten people?

Maybe they've whittled things down further since last week, but that's a lot of people.

[wutbju]

I sincerely regret ever attending Bob Jones University. I survived two years. It has been five years since I last stepped foot on this campus. I thank God that I got out before things got worse for me. I highly recommend to anyone looking at this school to read the comments on PCC, as I found that the in the candid critiques of PCC there are identical occurrences and traits that they share. Here is a sampling of what I experienced at BJU. I encourage anyone that is interested or who has had similar experiences to contact me at (My name is Andrea. I was a fine arts major there in 1998/99 and 99/2000.)

1. I was woken up in the middle of the night for interrogations. No one can think properly when woken up in the middle of the night. But anything the institution can do to wear you down and control you, and eventually purge you from their institution, they will do.

2. I was threatened expulsion by the Dean of Women for "not fitting into the spirit of the institution." This is a broad statement, meant to be a broad statement. They can and will use this against you if you think for yourself. I was "encouraged" (forced) to sign a statement with ultimatums to continue attending school there. I should have packed up my things that night and hitchiked to parts unknown. Anything would have been better than staying there, but i was young and scared, and only had an abusive home to return to. I still wanted to please others and do what was right. so I signed.

3. Situations DO EXIST in which students are called into the dorm mother's office (cant remember the specific title,but "dorm mother will have to suffice)… to identify other students in PICTURE LINE-UPS for suspected activities. You ARE guilty until proven innocent, and they will use any measure possible to collect information on your personal life, whereabouts, attitudes, habits, associates, reading material, interests, etc. WHen they have sufficiently surveilled you, you will be called in for questioning. I was SEVENTEEN years old when this happened to me. And I mourn that time in my life. It is very hard to speak about, and I have tried to find others since my time in that institution who have had similar things happen to them. A few of my friends from that time experienced the same, as well as my brother in law who was eventually expelled. He is now a missionary in Thailand. If you were thinking he is a horrible reprobate, think again.

4. I believe that my innate sense of personal freedom to think and imagine and dream and entertain new and interdisciplinary ideas was violated. Every night as I went to bed, I imagined things like packing my bags and running away, simply floating away, or being chased. I have heard of others who have survived this institution using the SAME phrases and metaphors. There is no coincidence. See the movie called the Magdalene Sisters. If you are a survivor of Bob Jones University, you will relate and be a bit upset after seeing it, but you will feel less alone.

5. I did meet TWO genuine Christians at BJU. Sometimes, besides my own MIRACULOUS salvation experience there (the only reason i'm glad i went), they are my only lasting "proof" that the idea of a genuine Christian walk with God is possible and still exists in our world today. Thank you Amber and Becky M., wherever you are. Your hugs were real, your concern genuine, and your prayers for me non-compulsory.

6. If you are victimized by the administration (who trains students well to help them surveil and rat on others), it will take you years to heal. THere are many, many students who do not fall victim to this, who make it all four years and do not believe it exists, who have happy, positive experiences, who grow in the Lord there, and move on to become lifelong supporters of this institution. Their experiences are every bit as valid as mine. I believe you need to know about experiences like mine, however, before going there.

7. It was not until long after I was gone from there, that I began to understand the nature of the psychological oppression that I was a victim of. If you are interested, please read The Captive Mind, a book by Polish expatriot writer Czeslaw Milosz. The first chapter, you will find most interesting, if you only read that. The chapter is called "The Pill of Murti-Bing." It is the happiness pill that so many students willingly swallow. Those who do not swallow are miserable… and eventually found… eventually "caught" for some infraction, and then expelled or scared so badly that they never return… which is what happened to me. I came across this reading in art school in later years, and responded in tears and sobs, to my dismay, in front of the whole class. I couldn't hold it in any longer. The pain punched me years later in this public reading. My teacher stopped the class, and I explained between sobs. I consider myself a survivor.

8. Do you want to or do you want your children to go through something like this? After my last days there, I would still, for a few months, wake up in the middle of the night shaking. During my final questioning while there, late at night, a while after the light bell, I was summoned by a hall leader to see the "dorm mother." I was shaking so badly that my roommate had to help me find and put on my shoes, and help me walk down the hall because my whole body was literally RATTLING. I threw up.

I have since forgiven myself for allowing myself to stay there and be hurt for that long. But the pain does not go away. Please, please read comments about PCC, as they are similar. I suspect that a lot of these postings for Bob Jones are censored. They are very good at covering their butts and denying the validity of these sometimes negative experiences.

Please contact me, and I can tell you more.

[wutbju]

Kevan Craig Barley graduated from Bob Jones University in 1977 with a BA in Bible. 

A Chi Delt Indian, he was pretty busy with the choral extra curriculars.

His kids attended Bob Jones University as well, most notable Nathan, a member of the Class of 2002.

Nathan now serves as the Young Preschool Director at the SBC mega-church Bellevue in Memphis. 

All of that is the usual familial stuff. Graduate degrees, career changes . . . kids married, grandkids born.

There’s been another curious wrinkle to Dr. Barley’s choices, however. From 1984, Jackson, Mississippi:

From 1983:

Racism sure comes up a lot for Reverend Bailey. . . . What else? 

This from 3 March 1989. Read it slowly.

In March 2000, Dr. Barley wrote an infamous letter to his son Nathan on Nationalist.org (SPLC warning), which has since been swept into the dustbin of the internet. This was a prominent conservative pastor and Bob Jones University grad’s reaction to Bob Jones III lifting the rule banning interracial dating. He’s writing to his son who was a BJU sophomore at the time. The document needs to be preserved.

Dear Nathan:

     On March 3, 2000, Dr. Bob III announced on Larry King Live that the university had dropped the rule forbidding interracial dating and marriage. I write to you with a heavy heart. My distress is due to two beliefs:

I believe Dr. Bob, whom I revere as I would a father, was wrong, and

I fear you may never understand it.

     I'm making my best effort, though, to walk you through this, so that you might rise above the tide of emotion, which has swept the campus, and be able to see things as they really are. In order to interpret what has gone on, it will be necessary to review a bit of history. As you know, when I was a child, things were segregated. The reasons for segregation were many, including distaste on the part of most Americans and differing standards of hygiene between Negroes and Americans. It was a system that had evolved since the end of Reconstruction and it was the only way my father's generation knew to allow different peoples to live side by side and touch without colliding.

     Central to the theory behind segregation was purity of blood. When moves for integration began, American resistance coalesced around the issue of sex. Close social interaction, it was believed, would inevitably result in intermarriage. That, in turn, would lead America down the path which other nations had followed when they intermarried with African slaves. Africa had never accomplished anything and nations such as Portugal and Spain, who had mixed their blood with the slaves in South America, lost their greatness. They produced backward and stagnant cultures which were no match for our great civilization which had accomplished so much, including the winning of World War II.

Purposeful bloodlines

     Among biblical Christians, there was also the self-evident fact that God must have distinguished the various bloodlines for a purpose, and mongrelization would thwart that purpose. I repeat, this was the ultimate issue for Americans: not crime, hygiene, culture, the quality of the schools or general distaste for the Negro appearance. It always came back to the inevitability of miscegenation if social equality were allowed. A famous book on the subject was written by the Governor of Mississippi, Theodore Bilbo, and was called Take Your Choice: Separation or Mongrelization.

     This issue was never far from the integrationists' minds, either. Intermarriage was considered the ultimate "equality" and denial thereof was considered the final hurdle which had to be conquered. In 1944, a professor at the University of Chicago published the statement that the "race problem" in America would ultimately be settled in the bedroom. Even now, as the issue has been revived and discussed, a Negro pastor, Fred Price, has gone public with a statement equating anti-miscegenation with "hate," demonstrating that he will never be satisfied until amalgamation takes place. It is undeniable that the founder and the administration which brought Bob Jones University into being were thoroughly in favor of the separation and the purity of blood which was preserved thereby.

     When I entered BJU in the fall of 1973, there was for sale in the bookstore a 1960 pamphlet by Bob Jones, Sr. called Is Segregation Scriptural? The answer, of course, was "yes." The pamphlet repeated the same arguments which were current among most Christians at the time. Dr. Bob believed that God wanted Negroes to retain their identities. Also, he attributed integrationist agitation and the push for integration and intermarriage to modernists, liberals and one-worlders who wanted to "eradicate boundaries God had set."

Refusing to give in

     According to Bob Jones, Jr., as I remember him saying it, the university was willing to admit married Negroes sometime in the early '60s. Then the Negro agitators began pushing, shoving, shouting and whipping up violence. The university responded by refusing to give in to a movement so Satanic. Even then, notice, it was only married Negroes whom they said they wanted to admit (but didn't). There was to be no social integration between unmarried Negroes and Americans; social integration would lead inevitably to intermarriage. While I was touring with the Academy of Arts in 1975, our team found out from a Board member that BJU was going to abandon its blood-purity admissions' policy, beginning with the approaching fall semester [emphasis added].

     Contrary to this, in the King interview, Dr. Bob stated that BJU admitted its first Negro in 1970. But in their argument before the Supreme Court, they stated that it was in September of 1971 that they began admitting married Negroes. However, I never saw a Negro student anywhere on campus from the time I entered as a freshman in the fall of 1973. It is a matter of record that the 1975 change in the school's admissions' policy was caused by the court ruling, McCrary v. Runyon, which declared it supposedly illegal to have a segregated school, even as it is supposedly illegal to have a segregated restaurant.

     Since it was a question of obeying the law or shutting the doors, the unmarried-whites-only policy was dropped. But, to review, why did they have the ban on unmarried Negroes? Always remember that the primary purpose for their segregation was the avoidance of mongrelization: God wants each bloodline to be distinct from the other. After 1975, the school felt that it could no longer advance its beliefs by outright segregation, but it could still be consistent with its beliefs by retaining the rule prohibiting interracial dating and marriage, and that is what it did.

Arguments crucial

     All this time, the federal government was suing to have the courts revoke BJU's tax-exempt status. There were a series of injunctions, suits, countersuits, verdicts and appeals from 1970 until the Supreme Court ruled against them in May of 1983. Exactly what the arguments were is crucial to interpreting the Larry King interview of March 3, 2000. The attorney for BJU was William Bentley Ball, a Roman Catholic. He claimed that the university had a right to practice their religious beliefs, so long as they were sincere. Now we come down to the crux. In his 1982 brief before the Supreme Court in Bob Jones University v. United States, Ball's opening words were,

Bob Jones University, a non-tax-funded pervasively religious institution which had been recognized as tax-exempt under sec. 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, holds a primary religious conviction that interracial dating and marriage are contrary to Scripture.

     Ball explained later in his brief that this statement was a reiteration of what had been already decided in earlier trials: this belief is a primary religious conviction. That means it is not pursuant unto some conviction, but is, itself, a conviction. A belief in short haircuts, for instance, would not be a primary religious conviction. Again, later in the brief, Ball said,

Bob Jones University is a pervasively religious ministry whose raison d'etre is the propagation of religious faith. Its rule against interracial dating is a matter of religious belief and practice.

     I cannot overemphasize this point. Still later in the brief, Ball quoted a ruling from an earlier court:

A primary fundamentalist conviction of the plaintiff is that the Scriptures forbid interracial dating and marriage. Detailed testimony was presented at trial elucidating the Biblical foundation for these beliefs. The Court finds that the defendant (the government) has admitted that plaintiff's (the University's) beliefs against interracial dating and marriage are genuine beliefs.

     Near the end of the brief, Ball tied all of his arguments together thus:

The issue is whether the exercise of a sincerely held religious belief, by a pervasively religious private institution ... shall result either in the denial of its tax-exempt status ... or the compelled abandonment of an article of faith.

No ambiguity

     Need I drive the point home any further by quotations from the Supreme Court decision itself? I think not. Nathan, there is not a trace of ambiguity in this collection of history and quotations: for the first fifty-five years of the school's existence, they held sincerely as an article of faith that the Bible forbids interracial dating and marriage [emphasis added]. Even the secular courts believed them when they said it. Now I take you to the Larry King interview:

Jones: Well, 50% of American colleges as late as the mid-1960s still didn't take black students, so...

King: But you were late?

Jones: 1970, so we weren't that late. Furman University in our town took their first black I believe it was in '65, Clemson in '63. So, you know, we were not exclusive in this by any means.

King: But will you admit, as Jerry Falwell has said, you were wrong, you should have taken them?

Jones: Yes, we do; we do; of course we do.

     Dr. Bob's voice trailed off as he said "of course we do" as though he had caught the look of condemnation in the eye of his father and grandfather as they watched him deny with a straight face exactly what they had always affirmed until now. The truth is, as I established at the outset, unmarried Negroes were denied admission because BJU believed that interracial marriage was wrong [emphasis added]. Now, in a great reversal, Dr. Bob has said that "denying them admission" was wrong.

     And the topping on the cake is that, in order to "save" the school's testimony, he made as though the open admissions policy had been adopted in 1970, when actually it had been adopted at the point of a government gun in 1975. Now, on to the rule itself which banned interracial dating. You see from the evidence marshaled above that this ban was affirmed by the university, under oath in a court of law, to be a primary religious belief. That was, of course, consistent with the school's entire history. Why the rule? Because Scripture teaches that interracial marriage is wrong.

Jones: Yes, we have the rule because it was a part of a bigger -- it was a -- it wasn't the rule itself. We can't point to a verse in the Bible that says you shouldn't date or marry interracial.

King: You can't back it up?

Jones: No, we can't back it up with a verse from the Bible. We never have tried to; we've never tried to do that.

Biblical foundation

     Compare that to what the Court heard according to the above quotation in Ball's brief: "Detailed testimony was presented at trial elucidating the Biblical foundation for these beliefs." Not only did they back it up with Scripture in the earlier trial, they restated it in their argument before the Supreme Court. The very founder of the University had put it down in black and white (pun intended): Is Segregation Scriptural? Dr. Bob's answer to King was radically misleading. Recalling the final quotation from Ball's brief, BJU argued that, since the forbidding of interracial dating was a primary religious belief, an unfavorable ruling from the Supreme Court could result in either harmful or fatal economic consequences or the compelled abandonment of an article of faith. For the government to compel the abandonment of an article of faith would be chilling, indeed, but that was what was on the line in 1982: an article of faith.

King: But it's a rule, though; they know they can't.

Jones: It is a rule, but it's the most insignificant thing; but now we are being defined as a racist school. I mean, that is all the media talks about.... But I can tell you this: we don't have to have that rule. In fact, as of today, we have dropped the rule.... I said to our administrators, "You know, guys, this thing is of such insignificance to us; it is so significant to the world at large (the media, particularly). Why should we have this here as an obstacle?"

     By now, Nathan, there should be no question in your mind as to what his own answer to that question was in 1982 when the case was being argued before the Supreme Court, or in any of the previous years since the rule was first adopted to deal with the Oriental/American relationship in the '50s. "Why should we have this here as an obstacle?" The answer was always, "Because the Bible forbids interracial dating and marriage." He swore to it in a court of law. Dr. Bob went on to say, "The principle upon which it is based is very, very important. But the rule is not, so we did away with it." By "principle," he did not mean the principle of purity of blood; he meant the principle of opposition to one-worldism. Thus, son, Dr. Bob misrepresented our history to Larry King, the nation at large, your fellow students and you. He did it so well, practically nobody has called his hand on it. Larry King could have dumped Dr. Bob on his head, and nearly did:

Jones: Yes.

Into a corner

     The videotape reveals plainly that King realized at this point that he had backed Dr. Bob into a corner from which there was no escape. Without question, the position to which King referred had always been the position of BJU. Dr. Bob had no answer except for a quiet little "yes." But King knew about the rule change and he wanted to set Dr. Bob up; so he instantly dropped his incriminating question and said,

King: Do you think, maybe -- I mean, you could change that. You think it is a stretch, maybe? In other words, have you given thought to maybe that's taking it too far, down to two people into a whole one-world concept?

     Then Dr. Bob announced the rule change. I could go on about some other things, but I want to touch on just one: Dr. Bob said later in the interview that Alan Keyes "was very well received." But up until that interview on Friday night, BJU had on its web page a statement by Dr. Bob ripping Keyes to shreds as a hypocrite for being nice on campus and then condemning the school two or three days later. The statement was missing the next time I checked, which was probably Monday. Why do you think that essay was yanked from the site? Do you think it was because it was manifestly inconsistent with the image Dr. Bob presented to the nation on Larry King Live?

     Nathan, this is an example of how unreliable man can be. I never, never thought I would have to say something like this about Dr. Bob. He just doesn't believe what his father and grandfather did and so he has lost sight of the irreconcilability between his beliefs and theirs. He has been telling himself all the time that blood wasn't the issue. But the logic is inescapable: if interracial dating were forbidden by Scripture (as it is and as they have affirmed in court and for all these years), they should never allow it on campus. I love you, son; and I want you to be a man of integrity. That's why I've written this to you.

Daddy