#Magoranza mention
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desultory-novice · 2 years ago
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can you enlighten me on why people pair up marx and gryll so much? is there actually a reason for it or is it just a random fandom thing that stuck
So, side-stepping the issue of shipping for a moment, there's a lot of good reason to put Marx and Gryll together as characters...
They're both "magicians" (I've mentioned this before but Magolor and Taranza are explicitly "wizards" 魔術師 where as Marx and Gryll are "magicians" 魔法使い. It's hard to define the difference, as there's no set one definition, but most people consider the methodology of magic to be key in what separates a wizard from a magician.
What we can assume based on character animations is that wizards are more structured. Their spells seem more crafted. You can see Magolor and Taranza concentrating/focusing to perform spells. It's an effort for them. Whereas magicians seem to perform magic in a more natural fashion, almost without thought. Marx's attacks all happen as a matter of fact. He just does them. We've seen very little of Gryll, but flying through space without a care in the world looks like second nature to them. Interesting when even Kirby was starting to lose consciousness when left in the void of deep space!!)
Marx and Gryll are also both members of the funny hat club! They arrived on the Kirby series scene within about two years of each other; they both enjoy a dramatic entrance; Gryll is, at this point, either canonically non-binary or canonically without a gender (but given the fact that modern Kirby is finally okay with declaring characters non-binary, I think we can safely say Gryll would use they/them pronouns if their game was to ever get an official release and, just by looking at people's gijinka, Marx is maybe also not the most gender-conforming character ever. XD)
The biggest evidence in favor of them knowing each other is that they open up with the exact same "Hey, hey, hey!" in their respective games. That's distinctive enough that you almost KNOW they must know each other.
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As for shipping them... Well... it's valid? Like most of Marx's implied relationships, canon gives us NOTHING so there is no real reason not to ship them...? Similar to how a lot of Marx and Magolor ships happen post-Milky Way Wishes, I see a lot of Marx and Gryll ships/shipping content happening pre-Milky Way Wishes. Marx and Gryll learning magic together, or knowing each other since they were younger and watching as the other changes (in this case, Marx getting more and more obsessed with his wish) as they grow up.
Dynamics-wise, there's something tempting about shipping Marx with someone who possibly knew him at his most fragile and innocent - when he was still "good" - and is still capable of seeing him that way. (And I did see one short MaruGuri piece that got me good - where Marx was in the process of growing his wings out/transforming between his two "states" and was having a rough time of it but Gryll was there to comfort him through the process.) Gryll is also someone that Marx, from his POV, doesn't have any reasons to be antagonistic with.
Despite that, I don't really ship them because 1) I just ended up liking them as having a familial/found-family relationship more - Marx doesn't have any close (...on-screen...) bonds with anyone outside of Kirby and so giving them Gryll (in a non-romantic way) helps flesh out Marx's character and give him someone to confide in and someone who can give him a good talking to when he gets out of hand and 2) they kind of neutralize each other?
It's the same reason I don't ship Magoranza, even though I think it's a fine pairing! They've got similar-ish (?) backstories and hobbies and interests, and I'm sure they'd make great, even close friends, but they don't have anything that, to me, gives them that strong spark.
Between he and Gryll, Marx is, obviously, the more troubled one. Also the more bombastic one. (Although Gryll has plenty of pep. Also just lots of big sibling energy. ...What ARE Salt, Sugar, and Pepper, by the way? Gryll's kid siblings? Gryll's familiars? ...Gryll's KIDS?!)
It just feels like, though they have a lot in common (loving a good fight/challenge) the generally good-natured Gryll would just be overwhelmed by Marx's force of personality? Again, same with MagoRanza. Nothing against the pairing but w/ my takes on the characters, I feel like Taranza would be lost in Magolor's depths.
I also worry that in a MaruGuri pairing, Gryll would spend more time wrangling Marx away from his more dangerous habits and it would eventually feel confining to Marx? Whereas that's a dynamic that feels pretty natural with two sibling-esque characters.
With two agents of chaos like Marx and Magolor, there's a fear they'll encourage each other to TRULY dangerous stunts (and if you believe Marx baited Magolor into the Master Crown, then they absolutely do) but at the same time, they're probably best suited to knowing their own limits? At the very least, there shouldn't be a power imbalance there, emotional or magical.
Of the four magic-users, only Magolor is a fully realized character. Taranza comes in second but still has a TON of gaps. Marx is mostly made of HC at this point, and Gryll is nearly 100% that.
So you can really see them as any way you want! And if you like coupling the magic-users, MaruGuri is a more natural way to "pair the spares" than trying to put Taranza and Gryll together. Or MagoGryll. Or MaruRanza for that matter! (Or you could skip the headache and just polycule them??)
EDIT: I FORGOT that Marx Soul also has pointed toe shoes that are a lot like Gryll's! Really weird connection, but there you go!
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sammhainnn · 2 years ago
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here's taranza kicking his metaphorical legs and giggling like a girl (made at 1 am while i have the flu) + misc mts (magolor taranza susie) doodles from like a year ago
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dynamiteghost · 11 months ago
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have you guys ever thought about magoranza hanahaki? bc i have :)
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ironforest4 · 10 months ago
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My choice is fairly obvious, but what about Magolor?
Favorite thing about him: Even above the shockingly complex and indepth redemption arc or the wardrobe designed to allow him to cry in front of people without them seeing it or the fact that he calls kirby a cool dude my favourite thing about him is his fuckign ears
Least favourite thing about him: capes are hard to draw :(
Favourite line: Do I have to say an actual line or can I mention the part at the end of magolor epilogue where he starts sobbing in front of the portal to the dream kingdom. Either way my answer is the haircut line when you piss him off
brOTP: Daroach. They're exactly similar enough to be really good friends and exactly different enough to be funny about it
OTP: c'mon do i even need to answer this one (it's magoranza)
nOTP: marxolor makes me want to vomit im sorry
Random headcanon: He hates being cold so so so so much
Unpopular opinion: I think being in the dream kingdom was a brand of torture for him so agonizing that dying and going to hell would've been an improvement mentally
Song i associate with him: Dark Magolor race!!!!! That song is so underrated
Favourite picture: This newspaper ad
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chorastar · 4 months ago
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okay, this may be random but uh ima just do an art comparison
(tw old art uuuuuughf it SUCKS I AM ASHAMED OF MYSELF)
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my most recent magoranza post vs my first
its kinda crazy how much my art improved after only a few months (the older one is from february and it's currently july)
you see how my line art changed aggressively from me being "mmm smooth art" to "yes thats cool and all but t e x t u r e d b r u s h"
i focused mainly on lineart in that last paragraph but most of everything changed
shading got more aggressive (color burn my savior 🙏), the lineart coloring (idk what terms im using hopefully its self explanatory idk), where i put my watermark, the angle, how i draw the characters (it was like.... my 3rd taranza and 1st ish mags..... rough)
idk its just crazy to me (also BURN MY OLD ARTSTYLE RAAAA) (<- for clarification not the style in general just mainly how i did most regular art stuff like the before mentioned and the fact that i sucked at proportions)
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rainykthebroken · 11 months ago
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Quick post regarding a future Magoranza post
I have been thinking on making a post each week, while I'm writing A Wonderful Attraction, to analyse a part of the Magolor/Taranza ship. However, I can't really explain why I love so much this ship without delving into spoilers for AWA.
So I decided to make a huge post over-analyzing their relationship and why I love it so much after I finish the story
I also planned to make a post regarding some of the symbolisms, secret details and scrapped ideas that I had for AWA. Furthermore, I planned to show a list of fanfics ideas I have for the future. Tell me what you think about it ;)
Quick note, I'm going to replace most of the mentions of Sectonia in the fanfic to Joronia (I only discovered recently that it was her original name before the transformation). It makes much more sense for Taranza to call her this way.
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mixing0 · 10 months ago
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Awww, thank you, Wattice! That made my morning, you have no idea.
Anyway, I gotta do this now, eh? Lord knows I can't choose between any of my mutuals...
@starstruck358, your art is so adorable. You bring me a smile every time I see your cute Magoranza stuff. Aaaaaa, I just love seeing two characters so happy with one another, and you make that all the time! It warms my heart so much!!!
@spaceiis0daz, you are one of the most compelling and talented people I've ever met, and you've introduced me to/reacquainted me with so many of my wonderful friends. Your art is fantastic, and it brings genuine joy to me every time I see it, even something as small as a sketch.
@betterdonutgalaxy, the way you stylize everything you make is really neat! Everything you do is so simple, and yet so varied! Not to mention, you're just a great person to hang with, even if we haven’t interacted very much.
And all of my other mutuals, keep being the rockin' dudes you are. Love you guys. ❤
You! yes you! You have encountered the silly goose and now you must reblog and complement a mutual today :3 or! Make sure to take good care of yourself too! Drink some water and go eat yah silly!
Have a good day!
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My mutual complement goes to @george228732
I hope you are doing well today and that you have a better day if today wasn't your day I know a even better day will come down the road :)
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