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#MIZISUA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thatsitso · 2 days
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Thinking of her 👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩~
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cool-island-songs · 23 hours
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Analysis of ALNST Character Relationship Metrics
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My art book won't be here for a minute, but I ran some screenshots I saw on twt through an image translator and have a lot of thoughts:
TILL: Despite claiming to hate everyone in the world, Till ranks Ivan at 70% intimacy even as he identifies perturbing behaviors of Ivan's going back years and refers to him as "a bother". He also ranks Sua at 10% in spite of having little to say about her and finding it uncomfortable to be around her.
Though he postures at being misanthropic and has all the manners you'd expect of a boy who was half off at the human child pound, he's actually quite gentle and sensitive. This is reflected in one of the graduation messages he's left by a classmate as well:
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The person he feels closest to is an unattainable crush, and someone who doesn't feel that close with him in return, likely because he's too shy to really approach her or carry on a conversation.
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MIZI: That's Mizi, of course, who's rather childlike and naive initially. She likes everyone, but since Till chokes when he tries to speak to her and often keeps his distance, she wonders if he's avoiding her because he dislikes her.
Mizi gravitates towards people who she sees as "perfect", which is how she describes Ivan and Sua in her graduation message to Ivan:
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She doesn't see the darker side of Ivan's personality (which has been described on several occasions, even by himself, as "twisted") because he's attractive, successful, and helpful to her.
Though she likes everyone, Sua is her "God", and the only thing that can keep them apart is the tragedy of their situation, which forces Mizi to grow up in a brutally painful way.
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SUA: Sua is far less idealistic and naive than Mizi, and has clearly thought about sacrificing herself to save Mizi, since Ivan picks on her for thinking of doing so in an official comic. Accordingly, her feelings about Mizi are far more tinged by the knowledge that they will one day be torn apart by external circumstances. She laments that reciprocating her feelings will one day cause Mizi great pain.
She's always been more somber, and despite her surface similarities to Ivan (which he notes in a follow-up comic wherein he realizes he was wrong about Sua's feelings for Mizi being unrequited), she's quite different on the inside. Sua's more sensitive and thus her colder exterior serves to protect her, whereas Ivan's outward persona creates an illusion of normalcy that doesn't reflect his reality.
Sua views Ivan and Till as a threat and a nuisance, respectively. Like Till, she senses something strange about Ivan, and when it comes to Till, it's just one person too many around for her. This is fascinating to me, because I thought she might pity Till! Her feelings about Ivan were already pretty clear from this panel of the 'piggyback' comic, and she seems deeply hurt in the first comic linked by his prodding.
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IVAN: For his part, Ivan is fascinated by Till even though he's content to sit back and observe, pestering him to get a reaction or his attention for a brief time. He doesn't expect anything in return but wants more than anything to be on Till's mind (hence behaviors like stealing Till's belongings and returning them to him, pretending he had found them).
He prefers Sua to Mizi despite his awareness that Sua doesn't particularly like him, seeing her as a sister and even telling her she's "twisted" like he is. He likes Mizi well enough, especially her sincerity, but seems to find her optimism a bit much at times.
The fact that Mizi and the others would likely consider Ivan and Mizi quite close while Ivan does not reflects how much he postures even in his closest relationships. He struggles to connect with those he's most compelled by and it's not clear if he really wants to.
Some Ivantill thoughts before I go:
There seems to be a common sentiment that it's tragic Till was unable to see how much Ivan loved him, and I think we'll likely get more of Till's perspective on Ivan and their relationship in round 7. But it may not be the case that Ivan even wanted his true feelings to be seen, or would have known what to do if Till had reciprocated them.
There's something almost voyeuristic and self-negating in his feelings for Till (see: "I can’t reach you, so I imagine alone/You who shines, I stand next to you" from 'Black Sorrow'). He has far more self-awareness and willingness to accept things as they are than Till, who doesn't see that Mizi only has eyes for Sua and who would likely struggle to accept that reality.
Ivan, on the other hand, is well aware that his feelings for Till are "shallow", a bright fantasy to get him through his dark reality, and he seems to sincerely believe that his death won't scar Till because he's never really broken through to him. He's a schemer, and comments he makes in his graduation message to Till and the interview he gives in advance of round 6 suggest that he may have been planning to sacrifice himself for some time.
Part of me wonders if he hoped it would leave a mark on Till. Choking, kissing, and violently sacrificing oneself are all aggressive, forward acts, especially from someone who used to toy with people to get his kicks but was otherwise quite passive and unfeeling.
There are a lot of parallels in the one-sided loves, like Till acting out of his usual character for Mizi, and Ivan doing the same because of Till, putting all hopes of being saved in something just out of reach, staying in chains for that one special person. But Ivan's psychology is quite different from Till's, and in fact closest to Luka's re: low or no empathy. Both Ivan and Till are significantly traumatized by their upbringings but Ivan's difficult early life in the slums and his experience being dangled off that rooftop seem to have damaged his ability to connect to others or feel much of anything.
Till is the first person for whom he feels anything while for Till, Mizi is an early crush he puts on a pedestal in a much more commonplace way. I think the shared trauma of competing on that stage makes it much more difficult for either of them to imagine moving on, but Ivan is not wrong in identifying that he won't find that feeling again.
The thing that intrigues me most about this series is the way the contestants' differences play out, particularly with regard to how they view love and how they respond to their individual and shared challenges. I'd love to get into it further another time but this is quite long already so thanks for sticking with it if any have (haha)
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6oys · 2 days
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MIZISUA
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xjdkg89q · 11 hours
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You're sweet, but I'm sick.
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ederdf · 2 days
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kaleida404 · 17 hours
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guess who watched alien stageeeee, this goddamn song will not leave my head
bonus:
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sophulceo · 2 days
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i miss twink ivan :((
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till-i-kms · 7 hours
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ALNST CAST FULL PROFILE (not translated)!!!
MIZI & SUA
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IVAN & TILL
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LUKA & HYUNA
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Credits to : EmanonDareka from twitter
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prainbows · 3 days
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some yaoi/yuri ships are so doomed to the point that you even cry with their fluff
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viiscontis · 16 hours
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what’s good gang i have come back on this acc to share my thoughts
since till’s cover of all-in just came out, it got me thinking about how AMAZING the cover choices have been so far. the thing i love the most about them is the fact that the meaning of the songs get completely re-contextualized depending on who gets to sing them. the most obvious example is sua’s cover of ruler of my heart - where luka’s version is meant to mock mizi’s idea of love (repeatedly using religious imagery such as “my god” “my savior”, which are words that mizi associated with sua), sua’s version was a genuine profession of love. in another example, ivan’s version of black sorrow is meant to express the pain of unrequited love, whereas mizi’s version is grieving the loss of sua.
the cover choices also have symbolic meanings directly attached to their characters. luka’s cover of sweet dream highlights the fact that just like all the other contestants, he too his a victim of their cruel system. till’s cover of all-in is meant to be the perfect irony: the guy who willingly chose to stay in alien stage for the girl he loves is singing about being free and living for himself.
anyways, i’m rambling here
what i originally was trying to get at is that i hope that luka will get to cover cure in the future. lyrically, the song PERFECTLY describes his love for hyuna. he loves her even if it hurts her. even if it hurts himself. i feel like the lyrics of cure perfectly encapsulate luka’s feelings for her
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dreadark · 18 hours
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so both Sua and Ivan disparage their feelings for the one they love… Sua worries her feelings are hurting Mizi somehow, while Ivan just calls his own feelings shallow
no wonder Sua tries so hard to be what she thinks Mizi wants, unconditionally supporting her dream of performing together in ALNST despite seeming to understand the consequences better than anyone else
Mizi calls Sua my god my universe and Sua makes sure she appears as close to a god as possible. the “perfect” person Mizi sees her as. whatever this might take out of her… it’s not even close to what she deserves for burdening Mizi with these feelings, right?
meanwhile Ivan can’t get over his own self-loathing enough to even express his feelings properly, but also… he is his truest self around Till
since it’s impossible to have Till care about him—since he can’t be a burden, he’s free to do as he pleases. none of this will matter to Till in the end. (though he wishes it would, more than anything)
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itsgwem · 5 months
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time for doomed yuri with an iconic pose
sua by @pantherfam-blog
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nolvini · 6 months
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god with a pearl earring | inprnt
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lucidpeech · 5 months
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my God, why have you forsaken me?
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cloudpalettes · 6 months
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bananana2217 · 5 months
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My Clematis
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