#Lojban Planet

[specialagentartemis]

Once in college @ontologicalsynaesthesia and I talked about a linguistic sci-fi short story would love to see exist: a settlement on a new planet where everyone speaks Lojban. They want to start society over and do it right, and one of the attempts to Do It Right includes Lojban so there will be no ambiguity in communication.

Within one generation their kids are using slang and within two or three generations Lojban evolves to have just as much ambiguity, redundancy, and nonliteralism as any natural language.

I would love to write this but that would require learning Lojban.

[tolbachik]

Hi! I’ve been doing alright, all things considered. I recently got into a minor car accident, but I’m okay. Luckily, I’m not at fault for the crash, so the other driver will cover any damages. Still trying to get in contact with my insurance company, hopefully I’ll be able to reach them on Tuesday.

On a better note, I got a good score on my SATs, so I can start applying to colleges now! Also, winter break is right around the corner, so most of my classes have been slowing down their workload in anticipation. :]

A couple years ago I tried to learn Lojban, so if I ever get the chance I think it would be fun to try to learn it again. Toki Pona is also a really interesting language, and, given the chance, I might even learn it instead of Lojban since I think there’s more resources on it.

Other than conlangs, I’d love to learn Polish. A lot of my family members spoke it growing up, but unfortunately I didn’t retain any of it. It’s never too late to learn it again though! :] There’s so many languages I’d love to learn, but so little time lol

Do you have any languages you’d like to learn, or that you’re currently learning? Or just languages you find interesting in general :D

Another graffiti that comes to mind is CIL 4.10241. Unfortunately this one is harder to find resources on, but the original Latin reads “Primigeniae | Nucer(inae) sal(utem) | vellem essem gemma (h)ora non amplius una |

ut tibi signanti oscula pressa darem.” I translated it as something along the lines of “Nucerina’s greetings to Primgeniae | I would like to be a jewel for no longer than an hour | so I may give you firmly pressed kisses as you’re stamping.” (For context, Romans often used engraved jewels as stamps for their letters.) My translation might be a little iffy, but the general concept remains the same haha

Choir was pretty fun. I was an alto, so I never got to sing the fun parts, but I still enjoyed the class. Also, it got me out of an otherwise mandatory extra math class my school made students take, so that’s a plus. It’s kinda weird knowing that past me would voluntarily be in a choir, since now I’m mortified whenever I have to sing in front of people haha

I looked up what a balalaika sounds like, but I was pleasantly surprised to realize that I’ve heard it before! Its sound is so instantly recognizable, I’m surprised I didn’t know the name of the instrument that made it! I haven’t heard of the shamisen before, but it sounds really nice as well. I’ll definitely have to look into more songs that use these instruments! :D

Most of the news I hear is about Mars, so I’m glad to hear about missions to other planets as well! I’ll have to keep my eye on those missions in the coming years :D

I just listened to I.G.Y. and I really loved it! You’re right though, in hindsight it’s a bit bittersweet :[ I’ve actually been meaning to get into more of Donald Fagen’s solo work, and I think this song was a perfect introduction.

On the topic of music, if you could see any musician perform live, who would it be?

I think my favorite Roman emperor would probably have to be Caligula. He’s considered one of the worst ones, but I think he’s really interesting. He and Elagabalus are actually similar in a lot of ways, both came into power really young, had relatively short reigns, and after the fact their incompetence was greatly exaggerated. I think my favorite fact about Caligula is one time he joked about making his horse consul to piss off the senate. Unfortunately, the truth got twisted, and now most people believe that he actually made/tried to make his horse senator haha

Doctored and AI images are the worst, I can totally understand why it’d irk you. Space is already so beautiful on its own, it’s so odd that people would go out of their way to edit it, or use AI to generate completely fake images.

I’ve never heard of Silent Running, but I checked out the synopsis and the trailer and it sounds amazing! I’ll definitely have to make time to watch it! Also, I put a hold on my library’s copy of Rendezvous with Rama. It’s been on my to-read list for awhile, so I’m glad to have the motivation to finally start it. :D

I think The Magic of Recluce is a good starting point for L.E. Modesitt’s work. I think with his style, you either love it or you hate it. It’s a bit slower, and it focuses a lot on world building. The story definitely picks up the pace as the book progresses, but it’s definitely not as action-driven as a lot of other fantasy novels from the time.

Also, do you celebrate any winter holidays? If so, which one(s)?

I hope you have a great day/night! :D

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So sorry for the delay with this! It's been a bit busy here, I really appreciate your patience. I'm so sorry to hear about the accident; I hope you're doing alright since then! I hope you've also been able to hear back from your insurance company since then, I'm sure the wait was a bit stressful. Please take it easy, I'm sorry again you went through all that!

Aww, congrats! I'm so happy for you! Are there any specific colleges you're hoping to get into especially? Also, what have you been doing for your winter break so far? I hope you've been enjoying it!

Ohhh I love conlangs, they're so neat! If you decide to go through with either of those, I hope you enjoy your learning journey. They're both pretty neat, I love the fact that you can just... Come up with a language like that, and with such deep and complex (or simple!) grammatical structures. I might consider taking one up someday too, if I can!

Polish sounds fun! I don't know too much about Polish or Poland, but I know that one of the bigger cities in my state (Pittsburgh) has a pretty large Polish population. On top of that, pierogis are well loved in my household, but that's about it lol If you decide to learn Polish again as well, I hope you enjoy! I'm sure it's fun to reconnect with family history, huh?

Well, I'm currently (trying) to learn Swedish! I made a promise to myself awhile ago that if I ever made a friend from another country, I'd do my best to learn their language, and that just so happened to be Swedish! It's been fun learning it so far, seeing how close it is to English in some ways. Aside from that, I think I'd like to learn Russian, Arabic, and Spanish someday too!

Awww, god that's sweet ? Again, these little things are such a good way to humanize the past. I feel like, more often than not, we view the past as just like... I don't know, an object maybe? A vague idea? But they were real people who lived lives like us, albeit with different technologies and ways of life. Thanks a ton for sharing & translating it, I mean it!

That's so cool! I'm sorry you didn't get to sing any of the parts you wanted, though. Ahh, man, I don't blame you for taking choir over math then! What kind was it? Also, that's totally fair! It's hard singing in front of people, I can't do it either lol

They're both very unique instruments! It's really cool seeing how many different ways you can make a stringed instrument. Despite having the same base components, you can make so many different sounds! Another neat one is the erhu; I actually got to see a live performance of one, my sister's friend can play it!

For sure, Mars takes up the lion's share of our space-based resources, unfortunately. It's not a bad planet, per se, but... I think a lot of the hype over it is undeserved, really! Yes, it's close to us, but so are Venus and Mercury. Yes, it was most likely habitable in the past and had water, but so was Venus, Mercury currently has water-ice on its poles, and many other moons in our system currently have oceans under their crust. I get very passionate about this; Mars really isn't the best starting point people think it is, but alas! Such is life lol

I'm glad you liked it! It's a great song, but always a bit saddening to think of all that we were promised decades ago. Looking back, if things had been just a tiny bit different, things could be so much better. But, that's ok! We can make a better future for us all still, we just have to work hard on it together!

Also, I hope you enjoy Donald Fagen's work! My earliest memory of music is actually Green Flower Street by him. I don't think either of my parents are big Donald Fagen fans, but for some reason, that's the first song I remember hearing!

Oh man, any musician? Alive or dead? That's tough! If I can pick someone who's dead, it's a three-way tie between Jim Sullivan, Norma Tanega, and Emitt Rhodes. Those are my big three, I love their music so much! If I had to pick someone living though, I'd say maybe DEVO or Todd Rundgren. My dad made me listen to DEVO a lot growing up, and I just really love Todd Rundgren's A Wizard / True Star album! What about you?

Oh wow, I wouldn't have expected Caligula to be your favorite! What are some of your favorite facts/little tidbits of information about him? I'd love to learn more! Also, I love how they just did weird stuff like that back then too; stuff doesn't really change much, does it?

Ahhh, they really are. It's such a shame, how quickly the internet has just. Degraded to the point of no recognition with all that. Between machine learning destroying search engines reliability and all these images and voice clips, it's just getting to be a bit much!

Aww, I hope you enjoy it! It's my absolute favorite movie, I have a huge art poster of it above my desk. It came at a critical time in my life, and really set me on the path to being more interested in the environmental/cultural side of expanding humanity's reach beyond Earth. It was also a huge inspiration for me writing my story; I don't know if it would exist without it! Also, I hope you enjoy Rama! It's a great book, let me know what you think!

Thank you for the suggestions! I'll keep these in a list somewhere on my computer, and I'll be sure to get to them when I can, then. I like slower stuff & a focus on worldbuilding, so I'm really looking forward to it. Thank you so much!

Well, I was raised Christian and am in a quasi-religious household, so I do celebrate Christmas. However, I've moved away from it since I was a kid, and am more agnostic than anything; I don't really feel comfortable with a lot of Christianity's core tenets, especially seeing how it lead to the conquest and devastation of the Americas, Africa, and much else of the world. That, and all of the intolerance in America that exists in its name. Plus, the idea of a god that would one day destroy his creation just seems a bit... Off to me, y'know? What about you, what do you like to celebrate?

Thanks again for the wonderful ask; I hope you have a wonderful holiday season! Please don't rush to reply if you're busy with your own celebrations, take all the time you need.

Have a great rest of your day, and take care! I can't wait to talk to you more later!

[cyanidas]

impulsively giving scientific names to my minecraft fanlore races rn

have another readmore >v>

EDIT: ALSO adding some language info

the Science Paths are pretty much the same, with a key difference being - to differentiate the different planetary lineages - they have planet markers in their etymology to delineate their respective origin of evolution (thus we're able to gloss over the fact that lumians are just hyperevolved demigod earth humans) (also quick note, these are written from the perspective of earth humans, since we're the ones making this guide to begin with lol)

Humans: ter-homo sapien (we named ourselves "smartypants apes") Lumians: lux-homo caelesta (same latin root as "celestial") Villagers: lar-homo smalikr (from old norse líkr, meaning "similar to", and smali, neutral form of "sheep") Fae: ark-homo eidolon (from ancient greek "eídōlon" meaning "false god")

and these two wouldnt have one but i wanted to make them because i said so (the 'sim-' is for 'simulacrum', because they aren't exactly mortal creatures and their physical form is either not inherently given to them or is dubious at best) Angels: anu-homosim nurabzu (from Sumerian "nuru" meaning "light" and "abzu" meaning "primeval source") Demons: ush-homosim dalkhu (from Sumerian "dalkhu" meaning "demons")

also here's the "oldworld" names for the planets, as further reference, which can be used interchangeably with the "modern" names;

Earth = Terra (obvious but jic u didnt know...means earth) Lumina = Luxata (from lux, meaning "light", and luxate, meaning "dislocated", referencing their sheer distance from our solar system as humanoids) Craftia = Lares (named for the Roman god of family and the home) Twilight = Arkhios (from Ancient Greek, arkhaîos, meaning “from the beginning, antiquated, ancient, old” - same as archaic/archaeology)

...and of course, still wouldn't have one, but i want to make them so; Aether = Anunnaki (Sumerian for "Heaven") Nether = Usherim (from Sumerian "úš" meaning "blood; blood vessel; death", and "érim" meaning "enemy; destruction" or "hostile; evil")

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FOR LANGUAGE...

Humans use so many that im not listing them!

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Lumians use many International Auxiliary constructed languages (conlangs that are created with the intention to unite Earth's people) such as; Volapük (and its derivatives; Spokil, Il de Api, ) - Esperanto (and its derivatives; Plusperanto, Esperandu, Ido, Antido, Adjuvilo, Neo, Mundolinco, Romániço, Sen Fleksio, Poliespo, Universal, and Esperant') - Universalglot, Ro, Novial, Intal, Interlingua, Interlingue, Interglossa / Glosa, Kotava, Lojban, Bolak, Sona, Mondial, Frater, Babm, Mirad, Sambahsa-Mundialect, and Lingwa de planeta.

Also I feel like not including Kēlen and Lincos would be a crime.

I made a writing system for their language(s) previously, but since I'm dropping the desire to construct a whole conlang for them, I'll be relying on these IALs and may later make up a new alphabet, or set of alphabets >v<;; I'm particularly interested in reforming or readapting similar intentions displayed by aUI (because its giving me little red n*zi flags) for a new alphabet.

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Villagers speak a variety of dialects in Toki Pona (x) (which i just learned you can play minecraft in!?!?) - it's a conlang that's considered the world's smallest language, stressing the importance of brevity with only 130ish words. Villager's Toki Pona has different dialects depending on their biome, and specific villages and regions will have personalized twists to speaking. Illagers speak with a crooked accent, often bastardizing the language by slurring speech.

And of course, they all use the Standard Galactic alphabet!

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The Fae, in addition to most human languages, also speak a variety of languages that mostly rely on the speaker's species, as that usually denotes their cultural upbringing, but if a fae is raised outside of their species' culture (for example, if a mermaid was raised by dragons) they would only know the language they were raised with. There are some common languages, which vary by region, and exclusive languages, which are used by sects and members of certain status (like Royal Fae).

Conlangs I'm including as common languages are; Solresol, Sprache, Eurolengo, Uropi, Europanto, Unish, Ellefen, other Zonal auxlangs, Láadan, Viossa, Kobaïan, Moss, and Wenedyk Conlangs I'll use as subsectional are Esperantom, Balaibalan, Loglan/Lojban, Ithkuil, Loxian, and Brithenig

I think it'd be fitting for the Fae to utilize the Lingua Ignota alphabet, with its initial glossary also being commonplace in every Twilight language.

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And finally, grouping them together because it's easier, Angels use Enochian (which i would like to edit the visual appeal of) and Demons ironically enough use Utopian (which i think would be cool to update utilizing other alchemical symbols).

I liked the idea of an ancient angelic language, and the alchemical/angular/perfect shapes of the Utopian conlang work very well with my lore for Demons because of their reliance on sigils and alchemy for power. Aside from me tweaking things, it pretty much just easily falls into place for me.

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ok NOW thats all fkgjkgkl - I'd like to make unique language signifiers (to substitute the real-life names) because that kinda thing would just be a lil cool to have..........

WOOHOO!! It’s all done!! A race guide for my Yogscraft fanlore stuff!!

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[graywyvern]

( via / via )

"Lina Persson talks about her film on Vulcan as a semiotic monument."

"Poets war against the anthology, but it always wins." --Bill Knott

Lojban literary forms.

I came into the meaning of that underpass crouching for shelter, roar above; i came into countries where minarets flash, their taut Byzantine spools and the crates of laughing people turned to soap. The malls are full. Radio tells me all i need and now as storage fails the lots divided up are auctioned, and the books set free till dusk from dawn come trundling in. The middlemen enough get paid to always return again, our skeleton crew provides labor for the carrying part. No meaning's blizzard shall yet accrue while underpass and bedroll part stealthily at first cold rays when i was not there, my books in storage now were yet to gather: through avenues to verge of sight the maggots troop led by shining cephalopods.

This is mathematics

"Mixing Rome and the snow in his song" --Mandelshtam (tr R Tracy)

"So far the only star once believed to have an exoplanet that we now think so is GJ 687, which appears in general audience astronomy books of the 60s as 'Ci 2354'--but it's not the same planet." (In more detail.)

[graywyvern]

( @archillect / @mrpunchnfriends )

Banded/ tesselated planet.

"On the Topic, 'The Three Dogmas Are Not One Dogma, Nor Are They Three Dogmas'

Better to hear The rain outside my window Tapping as it drops, I turn my midnight lamp around, Dimming its light against the wall."

--Emperor Fushimi (1263-1317), tr Earl Miner (Lojbanized here.), who comments: "Its last two lines echo Po Chü-i, the ninth-century Chinese poet [now known as Bai Juyi], and the three dogmas referred to in the title are the Void, the Phenomenal, and the Mean. Essentially, the separation of the senses shows that the dogmas are not one, but their association in the scene shows them not to be three."

Always on my Mind.

tr "the Desperado (de Nerval)"

I am the bereaved, the widower, the shadowy, the Cathar prince of the devastated citadel: My guiding star is snuffed, my galactic lute carries Melancholy's sable pentacle.

You who consoled me in the dark of the sepulcher, give me back Posilipo & the Mediterranean, the fragrance that enchanted my sere despair, & that arbor where the rose & grape are intimate.

am I Cupid or Apollo?....Poe or Byron? the kiss of some dread queen still becrimsons my brow; I have dreamed in the grotto where the siren plashes... & twice have I crossed Acheron victorious:

practicing in turn on the lyre of Orpheus moans of a mystic, sobs of a dying elf.

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Fado.

When will i be able to return to my customary omphaloskepsis, cranking out poems like Cracker Jack prizes, & mildly decrying the awarding of treats to my rivals? I cannot sleep for seeing the faces of the untimely perished; daily i discover further inroads upon freedoms i took for granted; threats make the mullions rattle.

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Eel and Well.

[notluigi64]

Bingo?

I got waw, LoJBaN as well as the planet resembling your tumblr pfp, misali votgil is technically a reference to a tweet a while back, januaryMisalignment is jan misali, the kay(f)bop(t) fetch modus (very cool), the votgil symbol on computer, caramellansen, hangman people, b. gilsoh there’s a reference page at the end of the comic that has all this,

has anyone compiled all the jan misali video references we put in a video about Homestuck yet. I think someone should try to do that