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ANGEL, CROSSES AND LOVE INTERESTS: ANGER, DENIAL, ACCEPTANCE. KATE, DARLA, BUFFY.
#atsedit#btvsedit#buffy the vampire slayer#david boreanaz#bangel#dangel#lockangel#kangel#idk man i just think this is interesting#his anger about kate's denial and lack of belief at what is in front of her eyes aka him and what he is#denial to what darla is telling him how god doesn't love him how what he had with her was more than just s8x#his acceptance of buffy's love and the forbiddenness of it all into the mix#he reaches for kate and burn himself#darla pushes it to his chest where his heart is#buffy accidentally burns him#also ignore teh shitty ats gifs i can't get them to work nicely
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I saw you say in the notes that you would kill for more asks! I don’t have any original ideas, but here you go: Three favorite TVD characters? Three favorite TVD couples? Three very unpopular TVD opinions? And same exact three questions but with AtS :)
TVD: 3 Fave Chars: Caroline, Damon, Bonnie 3 Ships: Steroline, Jeremy/Anna, Bamon 3 Opinions: Elena sucks, Klaus gets old fast, and Alaric probably should have stayed dead. ATS: 3 Fave Chars: Wesley, Lilah, Cordelia 3 Ships: Weslah, Faithsley, Lockangel 3 Opinions: Kate/Angel is the superior ship, Season 4 is the best season, and the Finale was a betrayal of the show's core premises.
Thanks anon!
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001: Angel
Favorite character: Wesley Wyndam Pryce
Least Favorite character: Of the major characters on the show? Spike - second least favorite part about Season 5 was Spike being there. (I like Spike overall, but he does not belong on Angel)
5 Favorite ships (canon or non-canon): Weslah, Weslyria, Lockangel, Faithsley, Frunn
Character I find most attractive: Cordelia Chase, Faith Lehane or Lilah Morgan
Character I would marry: Cordelia
Character I would be best friends with: Probably Cordelia
a random thought: It’s better than BtVS
An unpopular opinion: stop whining about season 4 already. Cordelia’s character wasn’t assassinated, Cordelia/Conner didn’t actually happen because Jasmine was possessing the body (and we were *meant* to be cringing at the idea of it)
my canon OTP: Weslah
Non-canon OTP: Lockangel or Faithsley
most badass character: Wesley
pairing I am not a fan of: Fresley.
character I feel the writers screwed up (in one way or another): Kate, Angel (in season 5)
favourite friendship: The whole AI Team
character I want to adopt or be adopted by: Uhm.. pass?
Ask Meme!
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Lockangel (Kate Lockley x Angel)
I’m going to disappoint you! Sorry…
I can only ship canon couples. I can’t, like, just imagine a potential ship between friends or enemies, so I would never ship Kate and Angel (also, I’m a Bangel lol).
However, I liked the friendship and the platonic chemistry (imo) that Kate and Angel had. I love Angel in season 1 - it’s pretty much the best version of Angel in the Buffyverse, albeit not the most interesting version; and I also like and appreciate Kate, especially considering other female characters. Kate was strong willed, had her own opinions, was stubborn, determined, vulnerable, flawed, loyal, could hold a grudge, etc. She was a very realistic character which is, perhaps, why many people dislike her.
Kate was one of Angel’s first friends and the first friend he didn’t meet due to supernatural destinies (like Whistler, Buffy and the Scooby Gang, Doyle). He met Kate naturally, randomly and they developed a friendship. That was also realistic and enjoyable to watch. I liked watching their relationship grow and change from friends, to sort of enemies to friends again. Angel completely unraveled her life but that also led her to discover a life where she wasn’t a cop and had the freedom to choose a new life. Kate, in return, helped Angel with cases and grounded him to humanity and the mundane.
So, obviously, I appreciate the relationship and, frankly, can see why people would ship them. Personally, I don’t see a romantic vibe between them (on Angel’s side at the very least) but think they were very alike (introverted, determined, loved solving a case, had daddy issues, etc.) and compatible on many levels (way better and believable than Cordy and Angel btw).
Was this a good answer??
Thanks for the ask!
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Lockangel + Aesthetic for @alkenifanfiction
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Buffyverse fics I need/desperately want to write:
The Trans Xander YAHF fic
The Always a Girl!Xander Xandelia fic where Cordelia realizes she likes girls when she and Xandra(?) kiss in that basement, and how their dynamic and prior history is changed by Xander being a girl rather than a guy, etc
Another fic exploring what if Willow got bitten by Oz or Veruca and was a werewolf (I did this in ICC, but a - ICC is done/abandoned now, and B, it was never a focus)
At least one of the Faith/Amy fic ideas bouncing around my head
A Faith/Wesley Peggy-sue fic for Faith
a post-series Amy/Willow fic (while I do like the idea of Amy and Willow getting together in Season 6, or even back in HS, I also want to really do more fics where the characters are in their late twenties or something)
A fic where Kate Lockley and Angel actually do get together. Probably requires changing 1x15, but damn if I don't ship them and wish they got together, still. ICC was heading that way, but didn't quite get there.
Really, a lot of things I did in ICC or was gonna do in ICC (Faimy, Werewolf Willow, Lockangel) I want to do again or still want to do, so...
I mean, I made the right choice abandoning that series, but still.
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Ship meme: Weslah, Xandelia, Xanya, Giles/Jenny, Angel/Kate Lockley :)
Weslah
Answered here (X)
Xandelia
Ship it.
1. They're great together. They have excellent chemistry, their back and forth is highly entertaining even when they're not with eachother, and they're actually pretty similar in how the see the world.
2. Their banter
3. I mean, apart from shipping it at all (let's face it, Xandelia's not that popular :( )
Xanya
Don't Ship It
1. They bring out the worst in eachother in ways that aren't entertaining. Anya's side of things doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Also they got engaged waaaaaaaaay too fucking young jesus christ.
2. I can't think of anything. My views on Anya and Xanya started neutral (like, I never shipped it but I never hated it) but I've drifted hard against both, especially with all the worshipful 'anya did nothing wrong ever' metas, or the ones about how Xander didn't deserve Anya, or etc, etc. Anya's stans really soured me on the character. But I never liked the ship, and I can't imagine what could have made me like it.
Giles/Jenny (Calendiles)
Ship it, I guess
1. It's cute
2. It's cute
3. It doesn't much matter to me, just basically 'meh'.
Angel/Kate Lockley (Lockangel)
Ship It
1. The potential dynamic is amazing. Kate is a really interesting, underused character, and the story could have been really good if we'd seen it, with Kate being super-guarded but also pushy in ways good and bad and Angel being his brooding socially awkward self. I really think it would have worked. There's a story here and I am interested in that story.
2. Kate? Is Kate a sufficient answer? I love Kate Lockley.
3. I am convinced that when Kate was first introduced, the plan was to have her be Angel's love interest, and that fan backlash from the Bangel shippers made them change course sometime before Season 2. I can't prove it, but I am convinced that's the case because otherwise the early stuff doesn't make sense
Send Me a Ship
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I don’t really get it, but I just can’t get enough of any moment when Angel and Kate are onscreen together. The ‘Date or Favor’ scene in “I Fall tp Pieces” has to be one of my favorites and the absolutely uneccessary physical closeness in Room w/ a Vu is right next to it.
Really though, just.... literally, any moment they’re on screen together.
#Kate Lockley#Lockangel#Angel#Angel the Series#otp: do you trust me?#I love these two#Kylia Watches Clips As Legitimate Rerefence For Writing
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I know you're not a fan of any of these, but if you HAD to pick: Stelena or Delena? Bangel or Spuffy? Fresley or Xanya? And why?! You're welcome ;)
... y u so mean?
Okay, probably Delena, because Damon is less psychotic when he’s with Elena, and that frees Stefan up for his real true love, Caroline Forbes.
Spuffy, because I’d rather Lockangel be a thing.
Fresley, because for all we know, given how little we saw of it, their relationship could have been less toxic than the bad parts of Xanya (which increasingly took over the ship as the show went on).
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About Kathryn: In what ways is she similar to and different from Angel? Similar to and different from Darla? Similar to and different from Kate?! Does Kathryn have a closer relationship with Kate or Angel? How much does Kathryn really know about Darla? How much does she WANT to know? What is her biggest fear? What are her ultimate dreams and goals? What are her passions and hobbies? Does she have a lot of friends? What are her biggest strengths and flaws? Is she someone you'd be close to?
Again, ty, ilysm for giving me this excuse to talk about my OCs, esp. Kathryn, who is probably my second favorite Aliciaverse OC.
In what ways is she similar to and different from Angel?
She’s similar to Angel in a couple ways – for one, she’s an introvert, and is perfectly fine, most nights, with sitting alone with a good book. Also like her dad, she’s very particular about her weapons (though, to be fair, so are her Uncles Wesley and Gunn). And she’s a big fan of Classical Russian Literature, in the original Russian (I will die for that headcanon), though really, for her, that extends to classical literature from other cultures, in their original language. Right now she’s reading a lot of the Chinese Classics.
She’s unlike Angel in that she’s not socially awkward/bad, like him. She’s also better at expressing her emotions, as a general rule. And she’s not a fan of the color black, whereas getting Angel to wear anything else is often a challenge.
Similar to and different from Darla?
I honestly don’t think she’s a lot like Darla, or a lot not like, Darla, you know?
I mean, I have a moderate to decent handle on Darla, but she’s not one of those chars I really super get. Yet.
But let’s see: She’s like Darla in that she doesn’t take shit from anyone, but unlike Darla, she doesn’t usually snap at/go after the people who give her shit.
Uhm… unlike Darla, she also has a lot of patience when it comes to Drusilla and her… everything (who insists on calling Kathryn her baby sister). Like, Darla, in canon, lost her patience with Drusilla a lot (though Darla also seemed to like her and such, in as much as any of the Whirlwind liked each other, outside the Sprusilla pair?) and Kathryn doesn’t have that. She is actually fairly fond of the ensouled seer-vampire. Though, like Darla, she doesn’t have a lot of use for Spike one way or the other. She doesn’t hate him, she just… *shrug*
And she gets her blonde hair from Darla. Does that count?
Similar to and different from Kate?!
Like Kate, she has a strong sense of justice and legal/criminal justice. Also like Kate, at least by the time Kathryn is born, she’s got little patience with how legal rules and prcedures can hinder the fight against supernatural evil – when it comes to human on human crime, that’s one thing. She’s not a huge fan, but she understands the concept. Also like Kate, she has some issues with anger. That’s the one emotion she’s not very good with expressing in a good way, though she’s better than Kate was in Season 1 AtS.
Unlike Kate, she never had any trouble accepting demons as people – Kate does by now, of course, but it took her some time to really get used to the idea of good or neutral demons, for one, and then to really consider them as people, in the strictest sense. She also doesn’t have any “Self-loathing hypocrite slut” issues, the way Kate did at one point (to use her own words – I HC from that line and other moments here and there that Kate had trouble really accepting her own sexuality to a degree or any desire for a romantic partner, thanks to all the baggage society likes to pile on women, especially career driven women).
Does Kathryn have a closer relationship with Kate or Angel?
Hold a gun to her head and make her pick… well, she’ll break your hand and at least one of your legs and then disassemble the gun right in front of you, but assuming she couldn’t do that, she’d pick Kate. She loves her dad, don’t let anyone believe otherwise, but she and her mom… she’s closer to Kate. Ever so slightly.
How much does Kathryn really know about Darla?
She knows the basics of Darla’s life and times, certainly, and knows that Darla loved her, and loved her enough to give her life so Kathryn could be born.
Beyond that? She knows a few details here and there, a story or two, and that’s about it. She doesn’t really think of Darla as ‘mom’ or really wonder about her much. Kate is her mom, as far as Kathryn is concerned.
How much does she WANT to know?
Not much. She definitely doesn’t want to know anything about Darla’s various… atrocities, to say the least. When she does think about Darla, she likes to think about the woman who died to allow her to be born, who loved her. She doesn’t want to think about the monster her biological mother was for most of her existence. She’s got enough to deal with with the monster her dad was.
What is her biggest fear?
She has two big ones – one, the possibility that someday, somehow, her dad will lose his soul. And, even worse, the possibility that she may be the only one on hand who can stake him. She is not at all sure she could do it if she needed to. Thankfully, Angel is hardly counting on her to be the one to stake him if that happens.
Her other one is that she might somehow become or turn out to be as big a monster as Angelus or Darla were.
What are her ultimate dreams and goals?
Honestly, she doesn’t have a whole lot of ambitions, in the long range. I mean, she wants revenge for the death of her gf, at the start of the actual stories, but that’s hardly an ultimate dream or goal. Really, what she wants out of life is to fight the good fight, save lives and souls, and be happy. She wants to marry a nice girl that she loves as much as life itself (she though Rachel might have been that girl, given more time), though she doesn’t really have strong feelings on the issue of children (if her hypothetical future wife wants to adopt or whatever, Kathryn is all for it, but if she doesn’t, Kathryn will have no issue)
What are her passions and hobbies?
She likes to read classical literature in the original language, and she, consequently, likes to learn languages. Right now, she knows English, Spanish, Russian, Latin, Chinese (Mandarin) and Chinese (Literary), formal version of the language abandoned in the early 20th century, Danish, German, Ancient Greek, French and she’s learning Arabic right now. She wants to learn Japanese and Hindi (and Sanskrit) after that.
She also likes various comedy webseries.
She's also a big boardgamer - she really likes the long and involved games, the ones that have a thousand fiddly bits and take eight hours to play. She likes some Eurogames (ex: Settlers of Catan, El Grande) and some 'American-Style' (Ex: Twilight Imperium, Axis and Allies) though she hates rail games.
Does she Have a lot of Friends?
Not 'a lot'. Kathryn has always been the 'have a few close friends' sort of person, rather than the 'have a lot of friends'. In Seattle, her friends were mostly her collegues - Samuel Montel, Dr. Carter Williams, Rachel Cordel (who was of course her girlfriend as well), a few others. Right now, between Samuel being the one who betrayed Kathryn and Rachel to the evil cult, Rachel's death and her own roaring rampage of revenge, really only Dr. Williams counts as a friend. In time, of course, she'll make new ones, and count Alicia and Daniel (and Jack and Talia) among them. Right now, she is friendly with Alicia and Daniel, but their more like cousins/siblings than 'friends' per se.
What Are Her Biggest Strengths and Flaws?
Strengths - her drive to be a champion, her strong sense of justice, her well honed strategic mindset
Weaknesses - her issues with anger, her obsessive/brooding worries about becoming a monster like Angelus, which can cause her problems/get in her way. Especially when her anger issues lead to her doing something that makes her start worrying about turning into a monster.
Is she someone you'd be close to?
Probably not? I mean, we might end up being 'Board Game Friends', I suppose - you know, people you play Board Games with at your local game shop once a week, or on local cons or whatever. We share a similar taste in board games, though I do like Rail Games unlike her. But I don't think we'd really get along.\
Her Hogwart's House
You didn't ask, but it is Gryffindor.
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Tag Dump - Ships, Part 1
#Faimy#Radison#Blog Management Tag#Xandelia#Faithsley#Weslah#Weslyria#Lockangel#Tillow#Frunn#Calendiles#Bamon#Steroline#Janna#Forwood#Daroline#Lauriver#Time Canary#Nyssara#Snowbarry#SwanQueen#Outlaw Queen#Captain SwanQueen#Hooked Queen#New Hooked Queen#Dragon Queen
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Angel for the five canon meme
Canon: Social Awkward Goof Broody McKing of Pain
Headcanon: He reads War & Peace in the original russian for un
‘Heartcanon: Lockange
Soulcanon: He had feelings for Kate, at least a little bit
Crotchcanon: No clue
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Kate Lockley for the five canon meme :)
Canon: Badass Detective with Anger issues
Headcanon: She became a cop to get Daddy’s love, but she actually really liked it fairly quickly
Heartcanon: She should never have left the show. She should have stuck around. And LOCKANGEL
Soulcanon: She was totally into Angel, and still had feelings for him when she left. If he had asked her to stay, she’d have done it in a heartbeat
Crotchcanon: I’ve never actually thought about her sex life or anything,
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An ATS MYC! Cangel or Kangel (Kate x Angel)? Potential brotp between Cordelia/Kate, Fred/Kate or Cordelia/Fred? Gunn or Lorne? Wesley/Angel or Wesley/Gunn brotp? Spike in S5 of BTVS or Spike in S5 of ATS? Reprise or Epiphany? Disharmony or In Harm's Way? City Of... or To Shanshu...? Fred in S3 or Fred in S5? If you could bring back one of these characters for S3-S5: Doyle or Kate? Your top 10 episodes of BTVS or top 10 episodes of ATS? Your 10 least fave BTVS eps or 10 least fave ATS eps?
Lockangel (Kate x Angel). Lockangel every goddamn time. I am so bitter at all the wasted potential. I still feel like Lockangel was the original plan and bitter Bangel shippers who thought their ship could come back sank it. Or at least fear of them. It definitely sank before Elizabeth Rohm took the other role, tho.
Cordelia/Fred Brotp, I suppose
Gunn
Wesley & Angel
Spike in BtVS Season 5. He fit a hell of a lot better there.
Reprise. The scene with Holland and Angel in the elevator, etc, is so amazing.
Disharmony. In Harm’s Way was just... silly.
To Shanshu in L.A., definitely
Fred in Season 5. Though S4 Fred beats both.
Kate, always fucking Kate.
My top ten Angel Episodes
My least fave ten Angel Episodes > least fave 10 Buffy episodes
#Make Me Choose Meme#Angel the Series#Kate Lockley#Lockangel#IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CANON#Anti-Bangel Fandom#sleeplessbutdreaming
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Angel for the character ask thing!
My NOTP for them Either Bangel or Spangel. Sorry fans of both, I just personally don’t like ‘em
My BROTP for them Angel and Wesley. I love it
My OTP for them Angel x Kate Lockley. I love it so much
My second choice pairing for them Cangel
My fluffy pairing for them Cangel, in theory, Lockangel in later Aliciaverse
My angsty pairing for them Lockangel initially, Cangel in canon
My favorite poly ship for them hm.... never thought of this before now, but Angel x Kate x Wesley?
My weirdest pairing for them
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Kate Lockley for that meme :)
My NOTP for them Uhm... Kate x Not Being In The Show
My BROTP for them Kate Lockley and Harriet Abrahms (previously Doyle) in my Flip Side universe
My OTP for them KATE LOCKLEY X ANGEL! YES! YES! WANT!
My second choice pairing for them Kate Lockley x Wesley - I saw it in a fic once, it was intriguing
My fluffy pairing for them Later-period Aliciaverse Lockangel
My angsty pairing for them Early/canon Lockangel
My favorite poly ship for them Kate x Angel x Wesley
My weirdest pairing for them Kate x Lilah in a dirtybadwrong hateship sort of way
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