#Like S1 and S7 and maybe S11

[localguy2]

Valid asf, I've honestly sorta given up on semi decent Canon Zane arc or trait, his character is bland and boring atm, he's been heavily nerfed in comparison both in terms of just brute strength and element

Like seriously, given everything that's happened and when comparing him to someone like Nya, who controls water and has partial control over Ice, it calls into question why Ice was even a core element instead of water (obviously 2011 and 2024 Ninjago are 2 different things but you get my question)

Touching a bit more on his element, I'm honestly really really tired of how badly utilised it is in show, it's to the point that ice doesn't make water anymore (S2P1 in the Desert and Crystalized also I'm the Desert), it can't even hold up against enemies well (S1P1 in Imperium and God damn Zur somehow (and this is comparing it to SEASON 1 WHERE THE MASTER OF EARTH'S FOOT WAS ENCASED BY IT)), and even when it's used it's used very very poorly

Like think of how Ice could be used for a moment: For making sharp on-the-go weapons, cornering opponents by summoning ice walls or spikes behind/around them, making ice armor to absorb any shock or physical trauma, or just even ICE PILLERS for an easy escape or quick height advantage

And this is only touching on Zane's element, I won't even get into his character and how CANONICALLY, we've yet to get a proper address of how traumatising his death in S3 was (I'd like to note, it's addressing the truama brought on by a traumatic expiernce, not what S4 gave us, which was addressing how he might have not been himself even)

Then you've got the stuff with Echo that was just, never brought up (whether you see Echo as an actual character or just "Zane's brother") and how that might've affected his out look on Julien ((tbf this is more of a Skybound problem then a show problem so I'll allow it)

Then there's the Ice Emperor who WAS addressd really well in fact but it was in... A book, 4 seasons and a special after the deed was already done and dusted

Then there's the lack of explanation regarding the show's stuble hints of him tampering with his memories (The march of the Oni set shorts and the Spinjitzu Virtues shorts)

Then there's the lack of reaction regarding something like him being just a robotic character for exposition and plot device or heck even characterless, so much so to the point are starting to doubt if he, in universe, sees worth in himself a lot (aham that one scene with The Administration, his whole "Hightined Emotions" line, the Wyldfyre voice lines (which all could me interpreted differently but from my own POV that's how it looks like at least, feel free to disagree tbh I wouldn't mind it), and just ughhhhh-

Zane's character has never been in a worse state, and it's even worse when you consider that not even the writers seem to be realising they're doing all of this intentionally

Like take the part where Zane calls Arin cringe and think about it for a moment

Zane, the show's definitive little guy since S1, calling a Teenager Ninja in-training (who is likely his same age or younger when he started with the ninja), struggling with being lied to by his best friend among other things going on in the season

How does that make any sense

Answer: it doesn't

Dragons Rising Season 3 predictions about Zane

Does nothing

Decides if everyone else is going to go out and find people then by golly he is going out and finding Pixal (maybe gets leads by going through the Administration's archives)

We get a flashback sequence about Pixal through Zane's dreaming or because he is missing her

Does nothing

Frog plush comes back

Him and Nya have a conversation of missing their loved ones PLEASE HAVE THIS HAPPEN PLEASE

If he does end up finding Pixal, they both work together and fix the mech that is coming out in this next set wave

Does nothing

[cannibalisticsamdean]

trying to watch s8 for a bunker era fic i was planning to write and i. was it always like this 😭

[manwiththemagic]

The writers of s11 were cowards. If IIIIIIIIIII was in charge I'd made Lucifer's weird obsession with Sam show up more. Like the writers have very obviously included it and yet when Lucifer is processing the same vessel as cas, and therefore pretending to be cas, he just fucks off and tortures Crowley with fucked up bdsm pet play.

Like the few times casifer and Sam interacted were GOLD. because Sam sees it as his best friend cas, and Lucifer (who keeps talking about Sam like they're toxic ex's) is pretending to be him!! Although not to well. Like his freaky smirk when sending Dean into the past and coming back to harass Sam? Dude lives off of sadistic pleasure.

The way he full on LAUGHS when Sam says he trusts him bc Sam thinks it's cas?? Like gold!?!? Don't know why the writers didn't do more with that.

Also why not do more with the 'lucifer sent Sam visions to get him down to hell'. Like Lucifer is Obsessed w/ sam because that body/vessel is "supposed to be" his. And yet after revealing himself he doesn't try and convince Sam anymore?

He's just given up? Like nah man I don't believe that. I feel like he woulda fucked with Sam more in cas' body. And like it woulda been a way better not-romance-romance plot then whatever the fuck Dean and Amara were..

Like that came outta no where... I mean I get it.. but ew?? We saw her grow up, and maybe id argue "well there were two versions of her!! One physical on earth, the other her actual form and memories as a celestial being!!" BUT NO. SHE CALLS CROWLEY UNCLE CROWLEY.

cause he like raised her for a day or wtv..

Idk s11 is better than s10. Like the episode from baby's prospective?? PEAK CINEMAAAA!! also not that I dislike s11, no I quite love it, I just wish the dean plots were more fleshed out, and that it was more "Dean and Sam vs the world!!" Then Dean vs Sam yk??

Like where's my dynamic duo??

That's part of why I didn't like s10. Like no I loved the IDEA of Mark of Cain dean, and demon dean was hilarious (although I HATE him) but it was just Dean vs Sam, Dean vs cas, Dean vs the world. And idk I liked the idea, cause this time it was sam doing everything to save Dean, but man I just didn't like the fighting..

Also s11 had a mention of TMNT, S10 did not so... points!!

S1 and 2 of spn were peak ofc, and s3 was good but not really memorable for me?? Idk I'll go back and rewatch once I finish the series (just finished s11)

S4 and 5 were also really good, we got Castiel who is peak, blood junkie Sam, which was one of my favorite plots!! And of course a lot more bobby. Rest in peace king!

And unlike some I loveeeed s6-7 like.. the soulless plot, and death? Dean dealing with soulless sam?? Chefs kiss I mean mwah. Then Sam tweaking because of hallucinations. NOT TO MENTION GODSTIEL?? loved him sm stg.

8-9-10 is where it kinda fell off. I mean idk the leviathans?? Weak. Hated them ngl. Idk if they were s7 but either way.. mid. I didn't like purgatory bc no way Sam would do that?? But I did like how it developed deans character..

I don't remember what happened in what season but I lovedddd kevin, hated metatron (but in the "it's because he's well done" kinda way), the tablets were aight, Mark of Cain was uh... something.. (I hate demon dean but he was peak..)

So like idk.. show is peak though, I'm just at that point in the hyperfixtion where it's like "BUT I COULD DO IT BETTER!!" ykwim?? NVM I'm sick with a fever, supernatural is all I have going for me man.

[thestoryteller-thedreamer]

Dragons Rising S3 E2 Spoilers

I don't like Roby...

But the fact that he sends her a scroll instead of texting her, because he knows she doesn't have a phone and can't interact with him that way, is so beautiful and pure. He doesn't hold it against her. He meets her exactly where she is, and doesn't hold it against her.

And Wyldfyre's reactions to his little scroll dragon is precious.

And Kai's supportive teasing- a hundred times more precious.

However...

Is it just me, or is Nya really whiny in this episode?

She keeps going on about how no one cares for Jay like she does, and girl, calm down. You have never been the clingy one in this relationship, so why start now?

It's not that I don't think Nya loves Jay. I absolutely believe she does. But she's also comfortable on her own. He is pretty consistently the character seeking her out in their interactions (he initiated their relationship in the pilots, asked her out on a date in S1, was acting weird toward her in S3, saw the vision of them together in S5, made terrible wishes in S6, asked to hang out in S7, proposed in S10, was the only one to openly say "I love you" in S11-13, mourned for her in a lighthouse in S15...) Nya's clinginess here comes across here as kind of self-pitying and demanding, if that makes sense? And I'm not sure it fits her character.

I would expect Nya to soldier on here, keeping her emotions to herself, only for one of the characters to catch her breaking down or something when she thinks no one is paying attention. I loved the shrine scene from S2 P2, where she showed her love for Jay and Kai without trying to make everyone feel bad for her. Why didn't they bring back something like that?

I don't know. Maybe I'm crazy. I just... yeah. It doesn't feel right to me.

[nexus-my-beloved]

Just sat here thinking about spn and realized I genuinely don't know what the fuck season 9 or 10 were about. Like. I know moc Dean was in there somewhere. But altogether I literally don't remember shit.

After s5 I FULLY lose the plot of telling anyone ANYTHING of what spn is about. Like, I get s6ish, and sort of s7, but then I lose it. I know purgatory happened and leviathans happened and I remember metatron and Sam being soulless but I genuinely can't remember when Crazy Cas fit in there. Chronologically I'm so confused.

I think after watching s7 / midway through s8 I stopped watching out of enjoyment to the plot and more out of obligation to finish the show. I'm here to admit I'm on s11 but haven't watched in months because I'm actually bored and everything felt like a trainwreck of random plotlines. I love supernatural, I do, but I enjoyed Kripke era and then started losing it after. I'd gladly rewatch anything s1-s5 but after that I get iffy. S6 was cool and I LOVED s8's finale but generally I just do not vibe with most things after s5.

Maybe I just need to rewatch?? I need to do that anyway to refresh the plot in my head. I love this show, I do, but good GOD I am lost. Please tell me I'm not alone 🙏🏻

[boykingscourt]

rank sam hairstyles/hairseasons

ahh so glad you asked because this is it so everyone pay attention to The Definitive Ranking

1. beginning of s8 - extra long, highlights, MWAH

2. pilot - no one loves his pilot hair like I do 😤

first two are god tier to me btw. love them significantly more than any of the others

3. second half of s2 - tres cute

4. s12 - I like your hairs

5. s1 bangs - classic. tres cute until like 1x20 (more on that later)

6. s4 - I like your hairs

7. 2x01-2x02 long bangs - adorable. we deserved more of it

8. s7 - very 70's. again. adorable

9. second half of s8 - objectively still very pretty but loses points because they shouldn't have cut it

10. s3 - no complaints

11. s5/s6 - I know there are a few Hair Arcs in there but they're all very similar to me. overall solid

12. s9 - when he tucks it behind his ears especially. ADORABLE

13. s11 - no complaints

14. s13-s14 - I love the volume but sometimes it got a little wild. maybe they're too different to put together idk it's been a while since I've watched those seasons as a whole. I still like that hair

15. s10 fuckass bob - sorry to bob enjoyers but it was only cute to me when he tucked it behind his ears like s9. for the most part it was too flat, no life

16. 1x20-1x22 - want to like it, want to say it's cute, but no I don't like it. those little fluffs and tufts are just too much.

17. 2x04-2x09(ish) - just waiting for it to grow out oh my god. it looked Silly. 2x03 was okay

18. s15 - why'd they do that to her......

[hobgoblinns]

you can put the word fuck once in every season of nuwho. Where is it going?

what a great question!

s1: i wanted to choose something funny, but i think nine screaming FUCKING KILL YOURSELF at that dalek would go hard af. but also…… nine and rose have the kind of relationship where i’m sure she’d jokingly say “oh fuck you” every time the doctor takes a cheap shot at humans

s2: i already posted tonight about wanting ten to be allowed to say “fuck you, mickey” (specifically in rise of the cybermen when mickey gets mad at him for favouring rose). but right now i kind of love the image of rose in doomsday throwing herself at that wall and screaming FUCK!!!!!!

s3: the tensimm fan in me wants to replace “are you asking me out on a date?” with “are you trying to fuck?”. but i think it would be more gratifying if, in the same episode, we got to see martha say “fuck you, i’ll do what i like” to the doctor when he tells her not to call home

s4: this is DONNA we’re talking about. you expect me to choose just one? well. alright. “i was asleep, in my clothes, like a fucking kid!”. imagine how much it would hurt if all this time she’s been censoring herself and then, with her memory wiped, she’s suddenly back to cussing the hell out of everyone she meets

2009/2010 specials (yes im cheating shhh): in the end of time: “i had fucking estates”.

s5: river: ooh, i’m going to be a professor someday? doctor: (softly) fuuuuuuuck….

s6: instead of that amazing “the doctor is very dear to me. but you know what else he is? not here” speech that amy gives, she should just say “fuck you madame kovarian” and murder her in cold blood. genuinely like, amy was exhibiting insane restraint for a mother who’d had her child taken from her.

s7: “i didn’t know when i was well off. all fucking twelve of them.” “no sir — all fucking thirteen!”

s8: again, this is TWELVE. almost every line feels like a pg malcolm tucker. but i’m going to go with dark water’s “can you hurry up please or i’m going to hit you with my fucking shoe”

s9: easiest one yet: “get up, off your fucking arse, and win”.

s10: missy and the master: “hold me” “fuck me” “make me” (this scene made me queasy but those two are horribly fucked up and would 100% say this)

s11: i have only seen this season in snippets but i think someone in ‘rosa’ has got to tell a racist to go fuck themselves

s12: during the master’s whole pathetic “wahhh kneel call me master” spiel i think the doctor should have just told him to fuck off. when i saw that scene i was yelling at the screen for him to fuck off so i think she should be allowed to tell him to as well. or maybe spray him with a water pistol like a bad cat

s13: for some reason the first thing that comes to mind is evil dan but tbh he doesn’t need to say fuck. he’s already powerful enough. instead in that opening scene when thirteen is trying to get the voice activated handcuffs to open: “RELEASE!!! oh, maybe i was scottish when i set them up…….. fucking RRRRRELEASE!!!!!!!!”

s13 specials (cheating again shh): tegan: and yes, i WOULD like to go in the fucking tardis!!! (alternatively: “i know these teeth… what… WHAT… WHAT THE FUCK????”)

[oracleofdiscord]

possible ninja ages/timeline thing

(note: the reason i say possible is because in general i think trying to find a fully definitive age for any of the ninja is ultimately a futile effort.

there were actually pieces of information that i ignored in this because they contradicted other information i was using, and it's possible i missed something entirely. in general, i tried to ignore twitter and focus on in-show stuff. there are also fan theories i incorporated and fan theories i ignored, so if you subscribe to a different set of headcanons/theories you could easily come up with different results than me)

this isn't me saying "hey guys i cracked the code!" this is me saying that this is a possible timeline for their ages)

okay so this is something i worked out recently when i was trying to develop my ninjago oc, estrella, to help me figure out an approximate age for her.

it uses as a base this rough timeline by @destinysbounty (both in the sense that i used it as a guide and in the sense that when i needed to start visualizing things, i wrote on/drew on/edited this picture)

now, one theory i'm going off here is something that was proposed to me by @destinysbounty when i got confused about how harumi could be roughly the same age as lloyd both in flashbacks and in the present: the idea that after the tea, lloyd's body stopped aging until his mental age caught up with his physical age. this catch-up happened during the timeskip between s7 and s8, which is why his voice got lower

so this assumes that from s8 onwards, lloyd's mental and physical age match. other assumptions/pieces of evidence that i used:

kai mentions being a teenager during the oni trilogy, and thus is 19 at oldest

thanks to the flashback with baby nya, it can be assumed kai is at least a couple of years older than her

thanks to having seen nya and lloyd during s1 (where they have different body forms), it can be assumed nya is a least a couple of years older than him

(i've simplified this down to 2 years between each in my timeline, but there could definitely be an argument for more years. in my case, i felt like 2 years each made things line up in a way that made sense to me. feel free to make your own version and experiment with increasing the gap between nya and her siblings on either side but i've picked a number and i'm sticking to it)

@destinysbounty mentioned that most age estimates they'd seen for the pilots had nya in the 13-14 range

so, let's call nya 13 in the pilots/s1/s2 (the green chunk on the timeline). if lloyd was 2 years younger, he'd be 11, which works with the body form he had. if kai was 2 years older than nya, he'd be 15, which feels reasonable.

and let's call kai 19 during the oni trilogy. this would make nya 17 and lloyd 15, and also mean that 4 years have passed since s1. let's look at our rough timeline above. if the green chunk all takes place within a single year and there's a confirmed 1 year timeskip between s7 and s8, than for 4 years to have passed since the green chunk, the red chunk would need to be 3 years. which is a little on the short side, but within the bounds set by our rough timeline!

if lloyd was 15 in s8, he was 14 in s7. so going back to our earlier theory about his age, his chronological age caught up with his body in-between 14 and 15, and he started aging again. apparently 14.5 is kind of the upper boundary of when boys' voices change, so i'd say this checks out!

and here's my visual diagram of that

(i only included the characters that i used in figuring this out - lloyd and harumi's age relative to each other, lloyd and nya's age relative to each other, kai and nya's age relative to each other, kai saying he was a teenager, lloyd's voice changing...

but i would assume all of the core 4 ninja are about the same age except zane, who has his own thing going on. maybe jay is a year younger than kai, putting him closer in age to nya.)

assuming that the rest of the initial timeline is correct (s11-s14 being a year, the post-seabound timeskip being a year, the merge timeskip being 5 years)...

in crystalized, lloyd would be 17, nya would be 19, and kai would be 21.

in dragons rising, lloyd would be 22, nya would be 24, and kai would be 26.

[feministsouthpark]

South Park Filler Guide - Season 17

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You know the drill by now, I’ll judge whether an episode has all the qualities of a canon one, or is it just shameless filler.

S17E1 Let Go, Let Gov is FILLER Eric unveils that the government keeps Santa as a hostage, but nobody cares. S17E2 Informative Murder Porn is FILLER The parents learn Minecraft and then proceed to never talk about it again.

S17E3 World War Zimmerman is FILLER Tolkien and Eric get development, however it's not grand enough to count it. S17E4 Goth Kids 3: Dawn of the Posers is CANON Do I just like messing with everyone by caring so much about the goth kids canon specifically? Maybe, but the fact that the vampire kids teamed up with goths makes this one a big development for the rivaling teams.

S17E5 Taming Strange is FILLER Ike gets hormones by accident, which is solved by the end of it. S17E6 Ginger Cow is FILLER Eric and Kyle accidentally create the peace between religions which Stan and Kenny accidentally ruin.

S17E7 Black Friday is CANON S17E8 A Song of Ass and Fire is CANON S17E9 Titties and Dragons is CANON This is obviously a trilogy and it wouldn't make sense to grade them differently. The reason why they're canon is partly because they are the backbone of the video game, Stick of Truth, partly because how it deals with the main character dynamics, such as Scott Malkinson becoming friends with Butters and a more prominent character, and partly because it establishes backstory for Tom and Tammy Thompson (I know they are bit characters, but it all added up), and following through with the Vamps being on the same side as the goths!

S17E10 The Hobbit is FILLER Wendy is against a fad, but in the end, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. South Park: The Stick of Truth is LORE

At one point I wanted to include it as canon, however it's equal parts its own canon, as The New Kid doesn't appear in the show. But if you followed my guide, you won't have many questions playing this game, as I made sure to include the major references.

SPOILER-FREE RUNDOWN

S17E1 Let Go, Let Gov is FILLER S17E2 Informative Murder Porn is FILLER S17E3 World War Zimmerman is FILLER S17E4 Goth Kids 3: Dawn of the Posers is CANON S17E5 Taming Strange is FILLER S17E6 Ginger Cow is FILLER S17E7 Black Friday is CANON S17E8 A Song of Ass and Fire is CANON S17E9 Titties and Dragons is CANON S17E10 The Hobbit is FILLER South Park: The Stick of Truth is LORE* *It builds upon the series, but the series doesn't build upon it

CANON counter:

S1: 9 out of 13  S2: 3 out of 18  S3: 6 out of 18  S4: 10 out of 17  S5: 8 out of 14  S6: 11 out of 17 S7: 6 out of 15 S8: 4 out of 14 S9: 8 out of 14 S10: 4 out of 14 S11: 4 out of 14 S12: 8 out of 14 S13: 3 out of 14 S14: 7 out of 14 S15: 6 out of 14 S16: 2 out of 14 S17: 4 out of 10 + a highly lore based game

Overall: 103 out of 248

[sammygender]

how would you rank the seasons based on personal enjoyment

i think… s2 > s4 > s1 > s5 > s3 > s7 > s9 > s11 > s13 > s6 > s10 > s8 > s15 > s12 > s14. maybe??

s1&2 are the ones i tend to rewatch cause deans so much less of a prick and the vibe is absolute peak and it’s just so pretty to look at <3. i also have stockholm syndrome for s1 because i’ve watched it like seven times.

idk why s3 is the lowest kripke era it just never sticks in my head as a coherent season despite the amount of really good eps i think cause it’s only 16 eps i love bela desperately tho. s5 is too upsetting narratively wrt to sam arc for me to properly enjoy. 6 (to a lesser extent) and 8 tend to bore me even though they’re much better than 10/11/13. i do quite like parts of s6 though & i like its concepts. i weirdly enjoyed s15 but probably only because i watched it within 2 days and expected absolutely nothing from it.

[leikeliscomet]

Thinking about 'jumping on points' for Waterloo Road. With returning and new fans I'm wondering if there's a way to catchup on the show like with Doctor Who:

Series 1 ✅

Well... yes! It's the start of the show and you can't beat the iconic opening seen so yh new fans should and could start here

Series 2 ❌

Not really? Directly continues the Tom/Lorna/Izzie storyline. The Brett stuff could work in isolation but still makes more sense to start from s1

Series 3 ❌

Nope. Continued Donte, Mika, Brett, Chlo, Tom and Davina arcs from s1/2 so you'd prolly be lost. You could start from Rachel's intro because this is also the start of the Rachel Mason era but then you'd have to understand the context of the other teachers. Bolton, Paul, Michaela etc join this season too so maybe but with the amount of storylines directly continued from the previous seasons... prolly not.

Series 4 ⛔

Maybe? The Donte and Chlo storyline and Kim and Andrew's return again works better with the s1 context. But, the Kelly family arc does start here and you could watch that without previous season's context. Not really sure.

Series 5 ✅

Yup! I watched the show from here and it made sense. The John Foster's arc is one of the best from this show and there's a lot of new characters in this season so its a great watch. The only downside is this is the end of the 'Mason era' and honestly this series hits different when you see these characters grow from s3.

Series 6 ✅

Yes. Start of the 'Fisher era' so not a lot of previous context is needed. Only downside is the Josh, Finn, Amy, Lauren era starts from s3-s5 so to see their full growth maybe not put if that's not a concern then go ahead.

Series 7 ✅

Yes again especially because it's broken up. 7a (episodes 1-10) is the 'Fisher era' post all the Bex stuff from s6 so you can start there. Or, you start from 7b (11-30) which is the Byrne era which has brand new characters and doesn't use a lot of previous seasons context. Grantly and Tom's storylines however is another situation of 'watching all the previous seasons makes this feel more emotional' but again if this isn't that deep you might as well. This is also the end of the OG Rochdale era so again, starting earlier makes the experience more enjoyable but this is subjective.

Series 8 ✅⛔

Yes... but for the wrong reasons. Mainly ignores a large chunk of s7 despite being a direct continuation. This is the Scotland era which most fans dislike because the working class Rochdale roots are gone by this point. You don't need context to understand the Scotland character's arcs including Rhiannon (she's a Rochdale character but not in s7...?). The weaker story is also behind from this season too so you can art here but it wouldn't be an authentic representation of the show IMO. Plus season 11+ continues from the Rochdale era. It's unclear whether or not the events from S8-10 are canon but unaddressed or if the show has retconned it so if you choose to start here its unlikely you'll need this to understand s11+. On a technical level yes, but I personally wouldn't recommend it.

Series 9 ✅⛔

Same as s8. Large chunks of previous season were ignored so not a lot of previous context is needed and new character storylines but again, not really ideal.

Series 10 ✅

Same as s8-9. Some underrated characters this season however like Justin and Dale so if you don't mind 1 season storylines go ahead.

Series 11 ✅

Yes. As the reboot season it does a decent job at catching up the Rochdale era. Also if you're tuning in for Preston x Kai this season is the beginning of their story so yes it's essential for the shippers!

Series 12 ❌

Seasons 11-13 are one big arc so not really. Just like s1 it makes sense to just start at the beginning

Series 13 ❌

Nope. Season 12 context is needed for this and to get season 12 you need to watch season 11. These seasons are the shortest of the show only 7 episodes long so its worth starting at the beginning.

These are just my thoughts this is not a definite guide to Waterloo Road! S1, S5, S6, and S7 for me personally are the best ways to start the show but you can do whatever you want!

[thebiggestmenace]

I am confused?

here's why lmao

do indeed remember this season

the baby's name is Amara?? or is the guy just that out of it?

omg Sam is infected!!!! big shocker!!!! (menace knew this)

and the baby has the Mark of Cain???

hi, Billie!!!!

first mention of the Empty... I have a feeling this comes back around in s15

the holy oil worked???

Dean wrapping Cas in the blanket :(((

is this episode just from Baby's perspective? I love episodes with weird perspectives!!

"say it with me - a ✨️werepire✨️"

Finn Wolfhard?!

why do they keep flashing back to Sam's time in Hell??

I forgot Amara was God's sister

I also completely forgot about Sully wtf

Sam, please do not say yes. please

where did she send Dean?? oh, just to safety nvm

you had to have known this was a terrible idea, Sam

you're ready to watch the people you love die? really?

of course they're all in there now

so, if Lucifer is possessing Cas, then where is Cas? or are there just two angels in him?

Eileen!! I know the actress and I've seen people post about her, but I don't remember her?

did Mildred just insinuate that Dean has a crush on Cas?? cause I feel like she did... nvm I forgot about Amara smh

dude, the boys don't even sound the same in earlier seasons :o I hadn't noticed until now

Lucifer is not caged, actually

you have Crowley in a dog cage?? and are treating like a literal dog??

also if Cas isn't Lucifer's perfect vessel, why isn't it showing? like it showed for Nick?

Dean being absolutely devastated that Cas said yes to Lucifer vs Sam just rolling with that punch

they are such children 🤭

Bobby and Rufus were definitely a thing btw

I've said if before and I'll say it again, I miss Bobby

and Sam's been shot, how fun

but he's not actually dead?

a married hunter couple!!!

omg is this the episode we find out Chuck is God??? *

* it is!!! I always thought this happened in an earlier season

and Chuck has the samulet?? I could have sworn Sam had it?

KNEW HE HAD IT (did Chuck throw that in his pocket? maybe. but I will die on this hill. Sam kept it)

KEVIN??? oh nvm he's gone now

Amara is so,,,,,,, unsettling

omg family therapy with God and Lucifer!

of course Sam's gonna take the Mark without talking to Dean 🙄

is this actually gonna work?

did she just kill Lucifer and God??

guess not, okie

Cas is back!!!

all the goodbyes are normal and then he gets to Cas and is almost in tears???

so, it's fine? everything's normal now?

????? Sam just got shot at again???

gonna be honest, I thought Toni was Mary

another season down, hooray!!! this one was so??? I want to say anticlimactic, which was nice considering the other season finales! it's just odd? also wtf happened with Sam? did he get shot? cause it didn't sound it, so what happened? is there just a forcefield around the man? I guess we shall find out

s1, s2, s3, s4, s5, s6, s7, s8, s9, s10, s11, s12, s13, s14, s15

[snugspheal]

Okay so I've had this thought many times over the last few years, but the recent post about an era with a different planet taking over Earth's role in the Doctor's life made me want to map it out. But first, I want to ask you all:

(Breakdown below the cut)

I'll cut to the chase, the answer is 6

So for those keeping track at home, that's:

- Ascension of the Cybermen (i don't really remember, like a cyber ship?)

- The Timeless Children (gallifrey)

- Wild Blue Yonder (space ship)

- Space Babies (ship)

- Boom (the sky that Ruby gawks at)

- Dot and Bubble (Finetime)

If you remove mostly on a ship that's 3

And yes, none of Flux meets my definition. Sure, there's a tonne of off world stuff, but the main plot is always earth. Even something like Once, Upon Time is firmly showing Earth memories. Survivors of the Flux is the strongest argument, but with the companions so firmly Earth bound I personally don't count it

Also, a weird realisation is that these are all planets that are firmly humanoid, if not actual humans. Except maybe WBY but that horse pilot wasn't alive to meet. We haven't had a true good Meet The Local aliens since... Empress of Mars???!?!?!?!!? I know like, the show doesn't do that a whole bunch. But come on

To compare it to the first 5 years of the revival (RTD1)

S1. End of the World, The Long Game, Bad Wolf, Parting of the Ways

(Space ships all round)

S2. New Earth, The Impossible Planet, The Satan Pit

(Not counting parallel earth or fireplace cause that's cheap)

S3. Gridlock, 42, Utopia

S4. Planet of the Ood, The Doctor's Daughter, Silence in the Library, Forest of the Dead, Midnight

Specials. Planet of the Dead*, The Waters of Mars

So, totalling 17, 10 without spaceships

5 years of moffat (sorry s10, we'll cut you into the next chunk)

S5. The Beast Below, The Time of Angels, Flesh and Stone, Amy's Choice*

S6. A Christmas Carol, The Doctor's Wife, A Good Man Goes to War, The Girl Who Waited, The God Complex

S7. The Doctor the Widow and the Wardrobe*, Asylum of the Daleks, Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, A Town Called Mercy, The Rings of Akhaten, Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS, Nightmare in Silver, The Name of the Doctor, The Day of the Doctor, The Time of the Doctor

(Wow, okay, props to my least favourite series, ig)

S8. Into the Dalek, Time Heist, Kill the Moon, Mummy on the Orient Express

S9. The Witch's Familiar, Sleep No More, Heaven Sent, Hell Bent, The Husbands of River Song

2011-2015 totals 30 with too many dubious "what even counts as a spaceship anymore" for me to bother

2016-2019 (definitely all of those years, im not bitter)

S10. Smile, Oxygen, Empress of Mars, World Enough and Time, The Doctor Falls

S11. The Ghost Monument, The Tsuranga Condundrum, Kerblam! The Battle of...

So 9 but yeah only 2 series (maybe 5 years wasn't quite right)

Anyway! You see! We're robbed of seeing aliens off Earth for more than like a 5 minute detour! May series 15 (season 2) please bring more off world stories! (I won't hold my breath)

[fanficmaniatic]

Love every single word in this post, and I feel you. If I could see the timeline the show writers were working with I would be a happy man. But Alas.... I don't think they had one. And for my own sanity, this are the explanations I've come up with + the timeline I use so that I don't rip my head when trying to write fics.

The Skales junior situation:

First, I feel like we need to consider the species. He is a snake. Cobra serpentine, which I believe is the species the hypnobrai are based on, are an egg-laying species of snakes. Now, unlike humans, when a snake hatches from an egg, they had already figure out simple things that takes us humans months. Things like; not choking on our food, walking and most motor functions. A baby snake could hypothetically survive own its own if its incubation was without issue, a human baby could not.

Where am I going with this? Skales Junior's egg could have been laid when they where in the thumbs, but hatched during the s2->s3 time skip. In real life, a snake eggs takes 2 to 3 months to hatch. Since in Ninjago Serpertine are a highly intelligent sentient species, lets say one of their eggs takes 2 to 3 years to hatch. When the kid actually hatches they would be no different than a 2-3 year old human toddler who is struggling to learn their words but has already figure out how to walk.

With this being said, I think maybe, Junior could have hatched 8-10 months before we saw him in s3, making him the equivalent of a toddler ages 3-5ish, and then he is just and older kid in s7. (also as a side note, WHEN in s7 does he appear again, I do NOT remember).

In rewards of s2->s3 time skip being shorter than s3->s4 all I have to say is... Tommy Andreasen, you, me, the nearest Waffle House. Catch these hands. <- As it is obligatory on the internet, that is a joke.

Now for Spitz and the Finders:

I feel that is way more likely Spitz egg is what got lost and not Spitz herself. Her egg could have been lost, forgotten about, hatched while in the Land of Lost Things, and has been under Geo's care ever since. She could have been 4-5 when the Merge happened/ Cole arrived, and be 9-10 now.

The "But we are teenagers" Kai dialog from s9: To be fair, as a guy in his early 20s who feels like a teenager, and is surrounded by a bunch of early 20s guys who also feel like teenagers... I just though that was the case here with Kai too. Meaning, they are young adults, early 20s, but being as their life is this Ninja business, no taxes, no worrying about mortgage, 'waiting to see what life throws at you' mentality, he just says they are teenagers.

There are so many "Grown" Things happening in the Oni trilogy that I just can't see Kai saying that and being serious. Nya (Kai's younger sister) gets engaged, Cole is considering adopting a baby, the overall more mature tone of the season. AND more importantly and why I don't think the og4 and Nya are teenagers this season (I place them to be 20-23 with Lloyd being 16), is that they actually perform like experienced Ninja in a way they just were not in seasons 4-7. Nothing against those seasons, I love s4-s7, but the Oni trilogy really shines when showcasing the team doing Ninja stuff.

And now, the timeline I use to not rip my hair. Let it be known that it according to it, 17 years have passed from the pilot to Dragons Risings s1, and that feels wrong to me. it feels too short, but to add more years feels too long, so anyways:

TIMELINE: 1st year + half - Pilot - S1 - S2 (One year gap) 3rd year: -S3 (6 month gap) 4th Year -S4 (3 month gap) -S5 -Skybound 5th year - DotD - S7 (One year gap) 7th year - S8 - S9 (6 months gap) Same year -s10 (6 months gap) 8th year -s11 -s12 -s13 (2/4 month Gap) 9th year -The Island (2 month gap) -s14/ Seabound 10th year -s15/ Crystalized (1 year gap) 11th Year -The Merge (6 year gap) 17th year -s16/ Dragons Rising s1

It was said that the Og4 where 14-20 during the pilots, I like to throw Nya there too, since she is paired with both Jay and Cole, this would make the Og4 + Nya somewhere between 31-37 In Dragons Rising s1.

Its safe to assume Lloyd is somewhere between 8-13 in s1, making him 25-30 in DRs1. Depending of y'alls headcannons.

Did not intent to ramble for that long. Sorry. But I hope that at the very least someone like me can rest in piece with this fuckass timeline. love yall.

[saving-people-haunting-things]

I'm not one of the people who really hates late seasons, but like I definitely think there's been a downgrade in s12 and s13 (haven't watched s14 or s15 yet). Idk quite how to articulate why I feel this way, but I think it has something to do with how the story and the characters are presented. Like s12 and s13 have more stuff happening while also having far less substance.

In s1 it was mostly MOTW episodes, but every single episode you learned something new about the brothers and how it affected their relationship. That stays true for most of the early seasons. Then there started to be far more complex overarching plots like the Apocalypse in s4 and s5 or the MoC stuff in s9 and s10 and other things. I think the main thing that distinguishes them from s12 and s13 is how those arcs all contribute to Sam and Dean's characters and their relationship with each other.

Some people may dislike Carver era (I don't), but it did a really good job at having all of the conflicts (except for some of the angel stuff that was Cas' problem) circle back to the characters. The Trials were deeply interconnected with both Sam and Dean's mental states, and the MoC explored Dean's relationship with helplessness and anger and violence. That plot culminated in Sam letting the Darkness be released which proved Sam was lying in s9 when he claimed he wouldn't do extremely questionable things to save Dean. These seasons had more overarching plot but they all fit into building up the brothers' relationship.

S12 has three main plot lines: Mary, BMoL, and Lucifer/Lucifer's baby. The frustrating thing with s12 is that those plots all have potential. Lucifer being back was a great time to explore Sam's headspace, especially since they'd been forced to ally with Lucifer at the end of s11. They could've had personal moments, but instead they went for the grand "the devil possesses the president and sires a super powerful mindcontrolling baby" route which, yeah, is more dramatic, I guess, but it doesn't tell us anything new about Sam or build his relationships further. s5 had this through line about Sam's deep inner anger and resentment and how that connected to Lucifer. While possessed at the end of the season, Lucifer makes him kill a bunch of demons who've been helping him be controlled his entire life and he was scared but he also enjoyed it. That's what made his relationship with Lucifer interesting. s7 has a thing about Sam "letting him in" and s11 dances around that before he refuses to be his vessel again. In s12 Sam is much less angry with the world and in a far more stable place in his life, there's a lot to say about how he'd react to Lucifer now and what do they do with it? Pretty much nothing. He looks scared when he's around him. Yes, it's very good acting on Jared's part and I'm glad for the crumbs, but there just isn't the actual integral-to-the-plot substance that there was in earlier seasons.

And then the brought back Mary! I may be in the minority, but I actually really liked the whole actually Mary kinda sucked too thing. There were hints of it in earlier episodes (mostly 5x16), but it was interesting to see how the boys reacted to her. There was a lot of characterization information in their relationship with her. How Sam tended to get along with her better, but Dean seemed more inclined to reach out. Dean's childish dreams that maybe if his mom was around his life would be better were crushed as he realized that Mary wasn't anything like he thought he remembered her to be (and that she was actually far more like him, even in some less positive ways). Sam trying to play family peacekeeper, a position he'd never had to take before. It culminates in Dean realizing that he blamed Mary for everything that had gone wrong in his life (even if it wasn't totally her fault) then forgiving her for making the deal to save John because he understands her (anyone else think of the moment in s5 when Sam tells young John that he forgave his father for everything because he now understands what it's like to go through a loss that breaks you?).

That's the sort of stuff that I fell in love with Supernatural for. It tells you about the brothers and their relationship with each other and with other people. Their relationship with Mary could've been one of the most interesting things the show did, except they bungled it by mashing it together with the BMoL plot. Instead of developing more of Sam and Mary's relationship or making it so that Dean's confrontation at the end of the season seemed less abrupt, they focused far more on the increasingly-cartoonish BMoL enemies. And it's not like there was nothing there with that plot. There was potential for commentary on the good of the many vs the good of the few and the existence of good monsters and shades of gray, but instead they made them be evil British people who brainwash people and torture them for no fucking reason. They establish that most of the operatives were abused and manipulated only to kill them all anyway (a really bad look when your good guys are supposed to save people and believe that some "monsters" can be changed). What does "evil British people" tell you about Sam and Dean? It's briefly mentioned that Sam wanted to just follow orders and not lead sometimes but only in one conversation and it's never explored again. They just go "oh we can help people" then "whoopsie we were right and they actually were totally evil lets go kill them!"

And s13 has the whole Jack thing which could be an exploration of nature vs nurture but instead they try so hard to make the audience like Jack that the subject is just barely touched on. Sam is projecting onto him but never has any self-awareness of it, and Dean gets over his rational if very harsh reservations within a few episodes. What does that tell us about them? It could say a lot, but instead they're making a man in his late twenties act like a toddler for sympathy points. I actually like Jack, but I kinda wish he'd earned it more. Idk I still have a ways to go with s13, maybe they do start engaging with the themes they've hinted at more. I've liked how they've discussed Dean's depression which has been present in the show for a long time (s7 dealt with it a lot), and I also liked how in 13x04 Sam blew up with his feelings about how he felt that he didn't have a connection with Mary and his desperation for that is part of why he (rightly) has hope that Mary's still alive. The alternate universe where they don't exist also gives room to explore their places in their own world.

Idk I think there's lots of room to build on their characters even after thirteen seasons. I just hope that they go with what they have and stay grounded in how things inform their relationships instead of going for the flashy "wow look how cool/grand in scale this is!" choices like they did in s12.

[spicyicymeloncat]

(Sorry it took so long @birdbound I just moved house and then procrastinating writing this. I drew kid Kai tho so you can’t be too mad

Kai!!! It’s him! The big man! Love to see it! I feel like I’ve talked about him a lot recently so I’m not sure what to say without repeating points. I think people tend to feel really strongly about this character and honestly I have a few mixed opinions on his portrayal in the show (although I think I tend to disagree with a bunch of people’s opinions about him too, so maybe I’m just weird).

Also look!!! I got his core set! This is actually my first Ninjago set ever (because I stopped collecting Lego before I decided Ninjago will take all my brain space). I love the evo sets because they just put dorky stories in the instructions which was really fun, look how happy he is. I actually drew Kai in his evo gi because yes.

Anyways…

So one of Kai’s main defining character traits is that he’s a little rugged, a little mean and I don’t mean this in a bad way I just mean that like in the pilots when they’re first establishing the characters everyone has like they’re defining thing. Cole is the buff commanding one (and his main gimmick in the pilots is about subverting that trait with his fear of dragons), Jay is the one who talks too much (which is again subverted when he loses his voice) and Zane is just doesn’t understand social cues. And Kai is defined as someone who struggles working in a team because he literally doesn’t care about anyone there, which I think is understandable, he’s under a lot of stress. But he is the one to take offence and do things on his own terms.

Yknow how Kai has main character vibes? Although after the pilots he doesn’t even do that much? I think Kai actually has lancer vibes but because the actual main character arrived late and was having a villain arc, Kai kinda fills that role without Lloyd. What happens when the lancer character hasn’t yet found the hero character? Well since they’re supposed to contrasting parallel to the hero, they have the potential to have just as much main character energy.

Also all the other ninja have major side character energy that Kai just doesn’t yknow? I think this is a more prominent reason as to why Kai is seen as the main character. Because he doesn’t have side character energy like everyone else. All of the other ninja’s true potential episodes aren’t related to the main plot but just other personal things to those Ninja (Cole and Zane’s backstories and Jay’s love life), but Kai’s was also the resolution to the “who’s the green ninja” arc, which was prominent to the whole season and the green ninja stuff in general is significant throughout the whole show.

But yeah Kai had major bad boy lancer energy and as of the team dynamic he’s usually takes the more headstrong role. He’s not afraid to criticise the actions of the team (s8, s11), tends to have a habit of going off on his own and not working/communicating with the team (pilots, s1 kinda, s7), also his absolute outwards confidence (s3 when he went on that date and was just showing off, s6, s9 when he said he was the looks of the team, s12 kinda). Although he’s not a total paragon like Lloyd or Zane, he provides a much needed second opinion to the team and makes things more interesting. And it means that his softer side is just that much more endearing.

I’d argue that Kai has two central themes in his arcs and character growth: destiny/being a hero/power and family/general care:

- In the pilots he’s motivated to save his family, whilst learning to work with others

- s1 he has to learn to not obsess over destiny and instead learn to be a good mentor figure to Lloyd

- S4 he literally had to compete in a power contest and also his complex about the green ninja is back

- S5 he has to save Lloyd who had officially reached baby bro status

- S6 his father is foreshadowed

- S7 his parents. They exist.

- S9 isn’t much but he empathises with dragons

- S11 he loses his powers (another power complex

These are really interesting and I kinda wish they got developed better but we’ll get to my gripes later.

Something that’s funny is that, every time Kai isn’t having a power complex, he’s given a gimmick for the season and everytime the gimmick is that he sucks at something fr. s3 he doesn’t get technology, s4 he can’t skate, s5 can’t swim, s12 sucks at video games. Hes not even a good blacksmith like s10 was about him being like “oh no the world is relying on my awful blacksmith skills” (Although he perseveres). He’s like, the anti-Jay. Can get bitches and has zero talents. I mean this affectionately and I love him for it but man whenever the writers don’t know what to do with him they make him suck at the core theme of the season. I mean I guess it’s cuz he’s goofy like that. Kinda a himbo who only knows swords and we should all appreciate him for that. I’ll come back to this too.

So here’s where the takes get slightly more critical but I think it’s safe to say that Kai is kinda undeveloped. He has main characters energy but not actually that much focus in the first two seasons, and whilst we get everyone’s backstories in s1, we don’t for Kai, we don’t even get to discuss his parentlessness at all. Whilst he has the green ninja prophecy and goes into that more prominently than everyone else, he still shares it with the rest of the cast.

In s4, I still believe that it’s a Kai season as much as s3 is a Zane season, but it’s more like he’s the camera into the world, rather than having arcs. I think it’s because everyone else feels like they’re side characters doing side arcs that aren’t inherent to the main plot. So Kai feels like a main character because he doesn’t do side plots. Maybe it might be the fact that the main arc Kai had was Skylor and imo the romance was not amazingly written. Like all he did was heart eyes at her until she stopped being evil. Idk they just weren’t that compelling to me. Also I don’t think they really address Kai in regards to the consequences of the last season, not in the same way as Jay and Cole. And also the green ninja thing felt very spontaneous, I thought that arc ended 2 seasons ago?

In s5 he has the whole Lloyd brother thing and the snowboarding scene and him jumping into water for Lloyd was good I just think they really could have and should have done more with his character in s5. Especially since Morro, his evil parallel, was right there.

And then s7. Ughhhhh. Most people say this is the worst season and they are right. Yes we finally get the parents. For some reason Kai wants to kill them at first but that doesn’t really have a deeper meaning beyond Kai being fooled easily and jumps to conclusions. They could’ve dived into maybe Kai resents his parents a little bc he has trauma of them leaving or something and that’s why, but they don’t. The time twins are also annoying, like every other villain is either incredibly plot relevant (the overlord gives us fsm lore, Morro gives us wu lore, Chen gave us elemental masters worldbuilding) or are fun (pythor manipulates children, Chen takes over the world via elaborate roller derby competitions, Nadakhan relies on wordplay and managed to uproot the city), and the time twins are neither. They’re just random elementals who think they’re better than everyone else because of a saying to do with their powers and their goal is to destroy technology?? I don’t think Kai really goes through an arc or character develops and neither does anyone else (apart from maybe Lloyd?).

I don’t even remember if Kai got anything in s9 other than his one how to train a dragon tm moment, although he gets a little focus in s10 with the weapons. And then in s11 he definitely does get an arc, it just feels kinda unnecessary especially when all it took to get his powers back was just to try really hard? Like had he not already tried before? And then in the rest of the wildbrain era, he mostly takes a back seat.

Idk he has a really good set up and all the themes that link to him are there, but his writing never fully sees it through. S7 is the biggest let down because it has the perfect villains to parallel Kai, as in power hungry, self appointed tyrants when Kai himself has struggled with a power complex and thinking he deserves a high ranking title. I’d really like for Kai’s parentlessness to be brought up a lot more as an established reason why he does the things he does in s1-4 especially since he does briefly talk about it in s5 and it sets up his s7 arc. It would also be nice if Kai got more of an arc about how he coped with Zane’s death in s4, since whilst we can see Cole and Jay leaving because they could probably tear the place down if they were together any longer but Kai still had Nya and Lloyd so it would be really interesting to explore how much pain he felt that he decided to leave them, and again we could go on to the parallels Kai shares with his parents and how he too briefly becomes an absent figure in his family’s life. Also would be cool if Kai had more of a connection with Morro on their similar stories in s5. And for god’s sake make s7 make sense it was supposed to be the finale of Ninjago and it was lame. Brief thoughts about the rewrite I’m planning but it would be cool if Krux, in his way of controlling the situation, actually partially raised Kai and Nya (as in visits on holidays). Then he has a personal connection and is a much creepier villain, holding more control and power over the situation. And maybe his goal is to change the timeline due to trying avert some sort of destiny prophecy thing, just to tie in that theme Kai has. Idk idk.

Also with the fact that Kai tends to be not good at a lot of things like technology or swimming, whilst it’s just a comedic gag and not plot significant, I think it would hit better and feel less mean if it was in contrast to Kai usually being skilled. Like take the fact that he nearly beat Cole in the first episode but reference that Kai is independently one of the strongest fighters on the team. Let’s say he’s the best swordsman, the best at offensively utilising his powers (albeit not great at damage control) and has the constitution to take damage and continue fighting. He probably trained the hardest because he was fuelled by firstly, saving Nya in the pilots and then wanting to be the green ninja, and even when the team splits up, he continues training and fighting (red shogun). Then him facing adversity in incredibly mundane areas is funny because “Kai? One of the most proficient ninja, master over fire and expert with the blade, doesn’t know how to swim?”. It also makes s11’s arc better set up, as Kai losing his powers is even more about his loss of identity, he literally attaches his skill and power to his sense of worth.

Okay I’m not gonna make a big deal about this next paragraph but since this is all my opinion, I do want to elaborate on why I said that I tend to disagree with other fans when I’m talking about Kai, because (Crystalised p1 spoilers) I actually like how he was portrayed in the first episode. He had a really mature reaction and functional (not entirely healthy but functional and work in progress) coping mechanism in relation to loss. Sure it would’ve been nice if we got more of a focus on what went down with him, but I think there wasn’t a lot of time to do so since the plot moved really fast. I think people kinda expected Kai to just be angry and angry only but I really enjoy seeing him in a different light, because it still feels in character to me. Also I think sometimes Kai gets simplified down in to angry overprotective brother when he’s actually a really chill bro who even in s1 isn’t even that amazing at the concept of “looking after child”. People act like he raised Nya when they’re almost the same age and he talks about Nya as if they mutually had each other instead of Kai being in charge. Like Nya probably beat up his bullies tbh. Kai hasn’t ever been overprotective of Nya as seen when he’s supportive of her being samurai x and also of Jay and Nya for the most part(pilots don’t count because he just had a normal reaction when your family gets kidnapped, and idk what Wu’s teas are on tbh but I reject that one ep). And also Kai was the one to lose Lloyd in s1 when he got captured by snakes. Only really after Garmadon died did Kai step up and make a big deal out of the brother figure business for Lloyd. Overall sometimes imo ppl play up his backstory the angst but then ignore interesting arcs for him, or the integrity for other characters or even take it out on the writers and stuff, and like if that’s how you like your eggs then sure. It does kinda annoy me if I think a character is being misinterpreted but that’s kinda just my personal beef ig.

All around, Kai is a pretty solid character with just enough interesting points for people to dig their teeth into. He definitely deserved better than s7 but oh well. I love the mini figure I got for him tho he looks so dorky and I keep fidgeting with him cuz he’s on my desk