#LesYay

[muthaz-rapapa]

ok, this show is definitely made for grown-up fans because:

Mirai went flying on her broom after drinking, oh noes 😱 (she claimed she didn't drink that much tho 😅)

Riko scolded Mirai for still wearing a school uniform even though she's a full ass adult now <- they're arguing like a couple 😂

THE ANIMATION WENT SO HARD I NEARLY DIED Seriously, ALL the stock footage has been UPGRADED!! and they actually stay at adult age! they don't revert back to their teens after transforming like the Cures in OtonaPre do I couldn't tell from the trailer until I actually saw the new henshin sequence, WAAAAAAHHHHH 😍😍😍😍😍

omg, there is such a gratuitous amount of LesYay that even I, a person who no longer has shipping mentality and reads smut like this 😐, got embarrassed whenever the camera pans to Mirai and Riko's chests being really close together or their lips almost touching 🙈💦 FFS, just kiss already! 😂

Mofurun cannot read kanji (aww~ 😆) just like I need subtitles to understand whatever the heck the charas are talking about usually, I can watch an ep from the main series just fine as raw but the dialogue for Mirai Days is a little more advanced than my current Japanese level 😅

yea, you have to see it to believe it

I'm not going to say anymore (except "WHERE'S HA-CHAN?! what did he do to her?!?!?!" 😭) until I rewatch this with subs but if they were going for best first impressions, they succeeded alright 👍

[mutterboard]

the jubilaura lesyay erasure is crazy

[grandgobbobarb]

ok a real clip that's good and funny and encapsulates everything great about Legendia except the lesYay

[loracarol]

Manga/anime spoilers. Also, I found where I saw the manga described as "Autor's fanfiction"; it was the tvtropes wmg page.

Anyway, how does the manga function with [redacted]?

Tl;dr manga bad, anime good.

Spoilers for the manga, and sort of for the anime?

~~~

First off, instead of Drosselmeyer with get Edel the sexy sexy shopkeep as the one that gives Duck her necklace.

That's right; Duck isn't actually a duck in this one. She's just a normal, if clumsy girl.

Rue also has a heart shard that she uses to turn into a magical ballerina princess; when she returns it, no more Kraehe.

Mytho was just a guy with a magic, pure heart, and that let him do miracles. The above wiki page is a bit wrong, because The Raven technically exists... in backstory.

Oh yeah, I mentioned that Edel is sexy now? She's also the villain.

tl;dr how does the manga function as a plot without Drosselmeyer or the Raven? The Raven exists in the backstory, so that wiki is slightly incorrect. The Raven sent minions after Mytho so it could steal his heart to "complete its own body" without context on what that means. The role of Big Bad is taken over by Edel, who is 1. Human, 2. A servant of The Raven, 3. Sexy and 4. Evil. There is a fourth wall that has been slammed shut; any acknowledgement that they're in a story/fourth wall breaking/etc. is gone.

~~~

Other notes on the manga:

Look, Kraehe's outfit is fanservice in the original, and in the manga it's about the same, but her transformation scene is a lot more naked in a way that had me raising an eyebrow. Somehow they managed to make her more fanservicey?

Duck does get turned into a duck when Mytho gives her the cursed necklace, but it's for one chapter.

The heart shards tend to get absorbed by animals? A least one human, but like, Duck had to dance with a giant fish, a giant teddy bear, a giant hamster and a giant bird, so it loses some of the charm of what those heart shards are doing to people imo, how they're influenced.

They turned down Fakir/Mytho HoYay and instead gave us this: (The WMG posts that this is Kraehe×fem!Autor and that's why it's his fanfic.)

Like, I'm not against LesYay in principle, but at least keep the Mytho/Fakir and don't just use Kraehe for fanservice, you know?

I mean.

Come on.

There' no Fakir/Duck, instead it ends with a Mytho/Rue/Duck love triangle thing? I'd say poly, but I don't trust it. It reminds me of harem manga, but perhaps that's my own biases at play.

I am slamming directly into your askbox because now that you've said that you've never watched Princess Tutu, I am legally required to tell you to watch Princess Tutu, because it's incredible. One of the animes of all time.

Also the villain's English dub voice might be my favorite dub voice ever.

Okay okay, you know I fully trust your taste and thus your recommendations, BUT. I think it's time I come clean and confess that I don't really like watching things, because my attention sucks and my brain hates processing images (which is why I am so much more at ease with words.)

I checked and it's not too many episodes though, so maaayyybe... but apparently there's also a manga, could I read the manga instead?

[skelkankaos]

no heterosexual explanation for episode six, sorry

[vanquishedvaliant]

lesyays replied to your post: “But vivi you used to be so specific about...

What’s a tag bundle

 skit plugin called “quick tags” lets you save groups of tags and post as many as you want on a post with one button press....

[stagmanparty]

[into-control]

Sometimes I think about how TVTropes is basically like "Yeah okay we're going to approve you using the HoYaY/LesYaY tag for her... Gorgeous IS gay. Taylor Swift Gay Theories are all good here on TVTropes 😎👍🏳️‍🌈." But apparently Taylor comes off as a conservative lesbian to TVTropes people cause the Democrat coming out post was like 95% LGBT+ focused & barely mentioned anything else. TVTropes is like "Taylor Swift? Conservative christian lesbian? More likely than you think!" TVTropes is WILD

conservative 💀

[missfinefeather]

MissFrankenfeather

Sorry I'm taking so long to get to the liveblogs. Keep spending the afternoon with my mom xD

It's probably not even Halloween for a lot of you anymore but I'll put SOMETHING out!

Thanotos Omega

YAY!!!!!!!

Wakraya

Big Miss Paps!

MissFrankenfeather

Okay, liveblog, START!

Wakraya

:D

Thanotos Omega

I started following them because of the Amaterasu and the cave's entry on the lesyay page,

Thanotos Omega

OK I just want to be clear on one simple thing, FUCK!!! Lovecraft, that is all

MissFrankenfeather

Yep

[clowndotorg]

Psst hey idk if you (still?) don't know what's going on with the heartbe*t game (or if you just meant you didn't know with that particular post) but the makers of the game are hella transphobic and have said/did some really shitty things. @ lesyays has a post about it if you wanna read that, but warning for transphobia in the tweets they posted! (Sorry if you already know this, and for the fact that I didn't really explain it well haha)

i didn’t know at all! thank you!

[olderthannetfic]

Lesyay

jehnt replied to your post “Queerbaiting”

I don't know that the word "queerbaiting" was in use but it was DEFINITELY a huge thing on Xena. That's the first I recall knowing about that sort of thing but also Xena was on when I was a kid so it's not like I COULD have known about anything on earlier. I'd find some Xena fandom experts (I was only ever tangentially aware of it) to ask.

Heh. Yes, Xena was very... uh... formative.

It’s definitely subtext-laden. What I’m interested in right now is the literal term ‘queerbaiting’ or any combo of ‘queer’ and ‘bait’ rather than the practice of putting in homoerotic subtext.

[asheternal]

You're back! Have you seen the Adam Taurus drama lately? What's your opinion?

(This is alright to reblog, but I’d rather people not start shit. This is just opinions and musings. No one’s URL is mentioned and it could honestly be so many different people I’ve seen in passing.)

(THIS IS ALSO PRETTY LONG SORRY NOT SORRY.)

Well, I like Adam as a bad guy. He’s a good (if not basic, but given that RWBY’s been pretty short until recent volumes as far as episode length goes, meaning it’ll be harder to show his abuse in action when you have like.. not even half the time a normal show would, which is why it’s much MUCH more parent in v5 and v6) character in the sense he’s what he’s written to be- an abusive, cowardly egotist. While I wish we got to see more of that abuse outlined in flashbacks (maybe they’re doing a post-abuse PTSD angle for Blake in v7, I wouldn’t mind that. PTSD is a complicated thing to write properly, but that sort of angle I think would work and open Blake up to relying more on her team for comfort/support which is a big deal development wise)  his confrontation was 100% decent in my eyes.

 It’s actually quite cathartic for me personally, including the song”Nevermore” which was honestly RT spoiling (in the girl/boyfriend spoiling a partner kinda context not Snape Kills Dumbledore kinda stuff) us totally.

 Though for the drama from what friends in the community have been keeping me up to date on:

 Look, I can understand seeing a character like Adam and heavily projecting your previous abuser(s) (or current, I’m deeply sorry if you’re in that sort of situation and I’ll open my doors to you if you need to discuss this with a BB fan who kinda.. gets that sort of angle I guess? I’m an ass, but I’m not heartless.) onto them, which is a sort of “what if” fantasy from what I’ve gathered. I did it in the past with a certain DR ship I haven’t drawn in 2-3 years for this exact reason.

I’ll even give you this: we as BB fans  in general should be a bit more mindful and.. ask people why they love what they do before we jump to attack them.  If their reasons are complex, let’s see if we can talk it out first. I feel like a lot of fighting I’ve seen in passing are with people who are generally reasonable if you don’t play offense instantly. Earlier in the year I actually managed to talk a few people out of hating BB who were being accused of homophobia- in reality they were all for it, just didn’t quite get the appeal or perspective of BB shippers outside of the fandom’s old OLD school BB community. (AKA when it was often called a lesyay pairing.) You can 100% in many cases just.. talk things out. Not everything is the usual “I HATE LESBIANS” stuff, especially if it’s someone who openly likes other f/f rwby pairings. Obviously this doesn’t apply to stuff like pedoshit, incest, severe age gap, etc.

 Though uh.. just don’t deal with the incel-y adam stans. They’re not gonna listen I can promise you that. Though people who claim to be invested in keeping the fandom peaceful and stuff of that nature- I’d give them that chance to discuss stuff with me personally.

  As for the AU stuff- maybe don’t make a “blake as the abuser” AUs without doing EXTENSIVE research into abuse. I’ve thrown this idea to the server I’m in but the only way I’d ever say “hm, that could work” is if it’s a NIGHTMARE scenario after the events in V6. It’s a common nightmare abuse victims deal with as well as an ongoing negative thought: “maybe I was the abuser.” Stuff like that can be incredibly introspective and a scenario where Yang comforts her post nightmare is a good sort of angst/comfort plot.

   Oh and if you think this by any means is me saying stanning adam is a good thing: no, it’s not. Legitimate stans disgust me and are either fetishistic or encompass the very essence adam presents. People who LIKE ADAM as a villian (or cinder) are fine if they outright admit the character is a bad guy who did shitty things and abuser Blake/his own power over his people. Like, I love TPN’s Isabella to death but it’s because SHE’S A BAD GUY. She’s got so much complexity and reason for doing what she does (I’m not spoiling it since.. it’s still relatively new.)  that makes her hella sympathetic.

Adam though... If we got more on him, if we saw his reasons for his actions outside of the brand over his eye and here-n-there mentions, I might be more sympathetic. The issue is- that’s not the kind of character he is. He’s not a bad guy due to circumstance like ILIA WAS, he’s an antagonist. He’s twisted and beyond the brand, I think he’d still end up how he is regardless. It’s his personality, his essence.

There’s my two cents for ya anon, glad to be back. Might do some anaylisis stuff sometime in the future if I can, especially if people send in prompts like you have sort of.

Hope you have a good day/night all who read this far.

[sir-adamus]

There's more Trish/Lady Lesyay/shiptease in DMCV? Glorious. Dante always has been the exhausting third wheel who nobody knows how to get rid of

like when mission 10 actually starts the first thing you see Lady do is duck behind Trish, tap her on the shoulder and then run past her, with Trish giving chase - like, they’re in a literal hellhole and they’re being cute and playing around meanwhile Dante’s bringing up the rear being moody because he’s the only one who actually knows who they’re going to fight

[nierthesheepdestroyer]

The TV movie actually saves her. And it’s revealed Sue lies about her death and sneaks her out of town. And there’s so much lesyay between these two in the TV movie. I ship it. It basically ends with Sue and Carrie on a roadtrip with Carrie napping and Sue driving. And it addresses the fact Carrie at the end has severe PTSD by the end. So yeah it’s basically my favorite version.

yes carrie killed over 400 people ok. thats bad i know. but have you considered that i feel really bad for her :(

[bisexualhondatohru]

Lesyay, as the cishets used to say.

[stagmanparty]

This stuck with me. A fan got mad at Faust for “downgrading” poison Ivy by seemingly erasing her LGBT rep status and making her more the Classic Ivy cackling villain.

Like that cartoon (or any, really) will tackle again the lesyay vibes between her and Harley..hell harley isn´t even a villain on this show, right?