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Who is hotter? Booker or Zefram?
Round one, fight fifty one










#star trek#star trek poll#star trek discovery#star trek first contact#star trek lower decks#cleveland booker#zefram cochrane#james cromwell#glenn corbett#David Ajala#Kwejian
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You know what would be a cool fic? If Leto (Book's nephew not his son) was told to go with Book on his ship in 4x01.
Like Book's whole planet is gone and as far as he knows he and Leto are the last of their kind.
Also, I want a very unprepared Book to somehow take care of a 6 year old.
#star trek#star trek discovery#feel free to write it! I can't do more fics and I don't know 6 year olds#cleveland booker#leto kwejian#leto book's nephew#leto
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#oooh i had been picturing like t'pring's dress in snw bc of her upbringing but those mushroom ones are awesome#though yeah dress uniform is most likely#i have been kicking around the idea of a drabble where book asks her if she'd rather follow ni'var or earth wedding traditions#and she saws kwejian bc she wants to help him keep his culture alive as much as she can#but a) idk what a kwejian wedding would look like#and b) uuuuuuuuuggggggggghhhhh writing#michael burnham#dsc T'Pring's dress was perfect and if I hadn't recognized the designer I would've thought it was just a modernized version of the original. That one was from the 2019 collection and I think there's a couple of other dresses from that collection that would work, and there's also a wedding dress in the fall 2023 collection that's beautiful but I really like some of the mushroom collection dresses better both for being on theme and because I imagine they would be a good mix of Vulcan styling and what I imagine Kwejian formal fashion would be
probably for the best that we’re likely never going to see Michael and Book get married on screen because I would’ve been lowkey annoyed if I had to watch her get married in her dress uniform or worse and not like, the Iris Van Herpen fungi collection, or a Gersha Phillips original
#like there's one or two in particular I think hit just the right spot of structured but flowy#but the rest I agree are a stretch#also love the idea of Michael wanting to follow Kwejian wedding traditions#I feel like even before Kwejian was destroyed she would've been curious about it but found it important to follow after its destruction#still think destroying an entire planet in a season opener was A Choice but#star trek discovery#michael burnham#cleveland booker#(sorry for copying over your tags just didn't want to try and fit that whole paragraph in tags) (that drabble would be precious)
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Hiding behind a wall may calm your fears, but it won’t keep you safe. The void will eventually reach you. We all live in the same space. This is all there is. On my home, we had an organism: The World Root. It connected all life on Kwejian. Wherever we lived, whatever village or continent, it reminded us we were all on the same planet. Our fates are always interconnected. Maybe that’s the lesson, if there is one - that is true of all of us. We’ve lost so many, you and me, but we can’t do harm in their names or memories. We have to honour them. All of them… because they were beloved. Beautiful.
STAR TREK DISCOVERY: 'Coming Home'
#star trek discovery#star trek#cleveland booker#david ajala#michael burnham#species 10-c#startrekedit#season 4 blew me away i have so much good i want to say. what an amazing story and what a beautiful ending.#the colouring of this scene though was so difficult there was too much red washing everything out i did the best i could
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disco crew + least to most spice tolerance
Zora: Can't eat
Adira: This kid is terrified of trying new things, they've got a very limited palate
Reno: I don't recall ever seeing her eat anything other than candy
Stamets: This man screams stereotypical white guy to me
Saru: I was going to say that I get the vibe Kelpian food is pretty bland, but then I remembered him heaping salt into his tea. I have no idea how or what this guy eats
Tilly: My initial impulse was to put her lower, but little miss "I love feeling feelings" is absolutely that sensory seeking type of autism, she will try all sorts of intense flavors
Culber: He's the human character we most see attached to his culture, including the food. I've never specifically had Puerto Rican food, but Google says it's heavily seasoned, but not often spicy, so I'm putting him pretty middle of the pack
Book: I don't remember if we ever hear any food preferences from him or anything about Kwejian food, so I'm also putting him pretty middle of the road
Tyler: Like all things in his life, I think Ash probably has a complicated relationship with food on account of the having two complete separate memories of growing up, complete with two separate palates. Pakistani and Klingon cuisine do at least probably share a love of spices
Detmer: I thought Tilly was sensory seeking? The adrenaline junkie over here will burn her mouth off for fun
Owosekun: I don't know much about Nigerian cuisine, but every Nigerian novel I've ever read mentions pepper soup, so I imagine even their Luddites are used to a lot of spice
Burnham: I believe accounts vary as to whether or not Vulcan food is spicy, but I believe it to be so, and I think she probably grew up with a fairly wide palate even before Vulcan. And Michael's managed to make it look more professional than Detmer, but she loves thrill seeking too
Mirror Georgiou: She's from the sex and violence universe, she can't not be okay with a little pain in search of other fun experiences. I think she does like spicy food, but even if she didn't, she'd die before admitting she can't handle it
Trek ranking ask game
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Season 1: 23rd century, mutiny, Federation-Klingon War, T'Kuvma, Ash/Voq, L'Rell, Captain Lorca, giant tardigrade, Sarek, logic extremists, Vulcan Expeditionary Group applications, Admiral Cornwell, time loop Harry Mudd, Pahvo, Mirror Universe, Captain Killy, Culber dies, Emperor Georgiou
Themes: betrayal, trust, good vs evil
Season 2: Captain Pike, Red Angel, seven signals, Spock's nightmares, Jett Reno, Terralysium, Amanda Grayson, L'Rell and Ashvoq's baby, Section 31, Leland, the ghost of May, the Sphere's data, Culber gets better, Kamina, Talos IV, Control, Airiam dies, Klingon monastery, time crystals, Queen Po, jump to the future
Themes: motherhood, secrets, corruption
Season 3: 32nd century, the Burn, Book, trance worm, Aditya Sahil, Zareh, Captain Saru, Tal, Adira, Gray, Trill, Admiral Vance, seed archive, Nhan, Ni'Var, Qowat Milat, T'Rina, Kwejian, the Emerald Chain, Osyraa, Carl, goodbye Georgiou!, Su'Kal and the holograms, Burnham demoted then promoted, dilithium deliveries
Themes: grief, scarcity, transphobia?
Season 4: Captain Burnham, President Rillak, the DMA (cough covid cough), Kwejian destroyed, Gray resurrected, J'Vini, cadets stranded on the moon, Ruon Tarka and Oros's parallel universe, Felix and the orb, Gray and Zora play a Trill board game, Species 10-C, Book's betrayal, hydrocarbon emotion math language
Themes: misunderstanding, "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" references
Season 5: Progenitors, Moll and L'ak, solving riddles to make a map, Q'Mau, Fred, Rayner, Lyrek, Adira and Gray break up, Jinaal possesses Culber, time bug, the Breen, atheism on Halem'no, racer Tilly, Ravah, Ruhn, Eternal Gallery and Archive, Hy'Rell, Tahal, wedding and finale
Themes: romances, religion, power
#star trek discovery#star trek#michael burnham#sylvia tilly#saru#philippa georgiou#spock#sarek#l'rell#gabriel lorca#paul stamets#hugh culber#adira tal#gray tal#christopher pike#amanda grayson#ash tyler#voq#cleveland booker#t'rina#ruon tarka#moll#l'ak#keyla detmer#joann owosekun#tardigrade#harry mudd#jett reno
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my problems with discovery's spore drive have nothing to do with the wacky mushroom science. Like this is Star Trek™ not some bonefide diamond on the Moh's Scale of Sci-Fi hardness like The Martian. I know to expect the writers playing a bit fast and loose with physics and how the real world works. I'm here for that wackniess, actually. Love me some technobabble about mycelial spores or tetryon particles or whatever! the thing that doesn't work for me is the way the spore drive acts narratively, and how the technology was introduced within the timeline of the series. Like it's just obvious that the writers aren't willing to let anyone else but Discovery have access to the spore drive. They twisted up the Glenn in season one, so Discovery is the only ship with a spore drive. They hemmed and hawed about genetic modification in season 2 so no one else got a spore drive. They purged records of the spore drive's existence from history and claimed that no one else had tried to make anything like it in 900 years despite a massive dilithium shortage and canonical search for other methods of propulsion in season 3. And then at the very end, just when you think, oh hey maybe the entire population of Kwejian will make for a nice crop of new spore drive pilots, the writers fucking blow up their whole planet just so they don't have to let anyone else have the spore drive. And to be fair, they can't really let anyone else have it, or else Discovery loses it's right to be "the only one we can turn to in a crisis". And that's really all it has going for it. So, I get it! Still hate it, though. And, even moreso than all the silly narrative contrivances that are used to nerf transporter technology so that the plot can still happen, this bothers me. Because sure, all the ion storms and interference can get a bit stupid. We all make fun of star trek for inventing a technology that could immediately yoink our blorbos away from their problems, only to turn around and force it to not work when it's needed most. But at least there isn't just one ship that has the ability to use the transporter at all. That would be ridiculous. Everyone would want their own transporter. And yet, that's the situation we have in Discovery. Only one ship can travel across the galaxy in the blink of an eye. The show writers keep contriving to keep it that way. And given how useful instantaneous travel is, the fact that it hasn't been replicated once, by any species in the galaxy, not just the Federation, in 900 years is just stretching the limits of my willing suspension of disbelief.
#sporkandpringles original#gripes#star trek discovery#the spore drive#I think it's a cool concept#but the timing is weird#and even if we say 'oh the Federation didn't use it for moral reasons' like...#...do you think that would stop the Orions? the Romulans? literally anyone else who isn't the Federation?#I don't think so#'oh it was top secret'#so is no one studying the mycelial network?#are there no other mushroom scientists? stamets is the only one?#we know that's not true another one was on the Glenn#if different societies are expected to independently invent warp drive then why not also the spore drive?
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I've been on a bit of a Star Trek kick lately, and I've come up with a crew for a Federation ship using Teen Wolf characters and what species I would have them be.
Scott McCall - captain - Kwejian
Derek Hale - first officer - Romulan
Allison Argeant - security chief - human
Stiles Stilinski - chief engineer - human
Lydia Martin - science officer - Ocampa
Danny Mahealani - ops officer - human
Vernon Boyd - comms officer - Xahean
Isaac Lahey - tactical officer - Bajoran
Kira Yukimura - navigator - Trill
Malia Tate - helm officer - Romulan
Alan Deaton - chief medical officer - El-Aurian
Matin Morrell - counselor - El-Aurian
I have no idea what kind of story I'd write for this, but I had fun coming up with what position each character would have on a Federation ship and what species to make certain members (everyone who was a shapeshifter on TW was automatically an alien).
The easiest to assign were Deaton and Morrell, including them being El-Aurian like Guinan. An Immortal race of "listeners"? Sounds like those two.
Scott I struggled with until I remembered the character of Book from Discovery and the Kwejian, who have empathic abilities, which fed right into Scott's compassion. Of course, since I made him Kwejian, this would have to take place in the 32nd century or later - I'm thinking a century after Discovery.
Lydia I made an Ocampa from Voyager, because of their untapped psychic abilities, but because I'm placing this at a later century, I'm saying they've evolved psst the 9 year life span.
Isaac I went with Bajoran because of Kira Nerys and her more upfront approach on Deep Space 9, and it just made me think of him. Plus, picture Isaac with the Bajoran earring.
I chose for Derek to be a Romulan because of how secretive the Hale family was, relying on sabotage and subterfuge. I'm actually picturing that Peter was the original captain of the ship before he was overthrown in a mutiny because of his "un-Federation like conduct" with Derek as acting captain until he stepped down, realizing he wasn't leadership material, thus mirroring how on TW he usurped Peter as Alpha before giving it up and Scott sort of rising in his place.
I also think it would be cool to have Scott and Derek on the bridge in their red shirts to match their Alpha eyes.
Same with Malia, since she's technically a Hale, I made her a Romulan, specifically a former adept of the Qowat Milat, thus explaining her upfront and blunt demeanor. Though she never actually became a full sister of the Order, and instead joined Star Fleet.
I originally had Kira in mind to be a nun for the Qowat Milat, because of her sword skills, but then I thought a little more about it and made her a Trill, specifically a host for a symbiot. So, in one of her symbiot's other lives, it was trained by the Qowat Milat, thus giving a credible excuse for her martial prowess.
And Boyd... Boyd was the hardest for me. I wanted to include him because of how dirty his character was done on Teen Wolf, but because his character was hardly used, I didn't have much to base this on. In the end, I went with Xahean, because they're an obscure and barely used species from Discovery and then Picard, who have fangs and claws (similar to his werewolf form on TW) and the ability to turn partially invisible.
As for the humans, given how StarFleet is mostly human, I left them the way they were and just used their attributes from the show to influence their positions on the ship. Allison wanting to protect those who can't protect themselves? Security. Stiles being able to hold his jeep together with duct tape? Engineering. Danny, the hacker? Operations.
Like I said above, I still have no idea what story I would write with this, but I had fun getting here.
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while season 4 of discovery was airing i experienced a traumatic night at work. the most traumatic night at work. i remember sobbing my way through the episode where book was dealing with kwejian being destroyed, and that was the last one i watched. i don't even remember if it was the day after the incident, or a week after. i think it helped though. but i never went back and finished the season because i associated it with that time. anyway i think i'm gonna try and finish it in the next few weeks because i liked disco and i want to have it back.
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due to a current boycott of Paramount and Paramount+ I'm watching this from a pirate cove and I'd encourage you to do the same and without further ado live blogging of Star Trek Discovery and as always 🌟SPOILERS🌟
Season 5 Episode 8
I got a prediction that Moll is going to kill the Primarch which would suck because I'm liking Ruhn as a villain
Well this Breen Asrisar seems respectful
I'm liking the Breen as main antagonists I wasn't sure before but they are being presented in a very interesting way
Why did the Breen lieutenant Asrisar sound like Booker for a second hold up
Oh she's spilling the primordial beans so to speak to the Breen
"Of course that's what we all want" says the Primarch Ruhn who clearly doesn't want that
I like the Breen looking around like did you just hear that
That looks like the Kataan Probe
Damn how is are yall this unprepared for the badlands they are called the badlands for Q sake
Okay there's Booker he's not on Breen ship undercover I was convinced for a second
The archive has cool background alien one of which I can almost identify but can't
The head archivist lady is Efrosian which is cool
"A book vist me in the library" ok that made me laugh but that's because I find terrible puns funny
Ok the Kwejian scene was heart warming
OMG Michael
She was laid out like a murder victim in a Murder Mystery after the lights flicker on and off
What is Booker doing dressed like that I'm thinking a prophets like faces of people you know talking to you think from a mysterious thing she touched
I like fake sassy Booker
Ok Primarch Ruhn isn't very smart I thought because the archive has dealing with the Breen the Ruhn would have a little more patience and the archive would be a little more chill but the archive means business I see
It keeps cutting to Lieutenant Asrisar why do I feel like something important is about to happen
Is the archive even bigger then the Breen Dreadnought this is the season of huge things
How is 32nd century Discovery doing so terribly in the badlands even 23rd century ships were able to handle the badlands
Damn this is a heavy scene Sonequa Martin-Green Is a really good actor and Burnham is such a great character
Ruhn isn't making good decisions
Well their goes Primarch Ruhn a fun but scary villain
There is no way Moll is going to lead this group of Breen like some sort of chosen one type stuff
Damn the Breen being lead by human
A pretty somber episode with really good parts this season has been really enjoyable
#star trek#star trek dis#star trek discovery#star trek dsc#star trek disco#star trek disco spoilers#dis s5 e8#dsc s5 e8#disco s5 e8
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Kwejian Frigate from Star Trek Online
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So in Discovery S4, Tarka steals the prototype new spore drive, yeah?
Vance is going like "this is the only one we have - we need it back"
And like
Was Tarka not required to keep logs? Or literally any other engineer? Like yeah, try Tarka in a court of law or wte but it shouldn't have been as detrimental as it was to the research.
Until Tarka attempts the transporter. Then yeah. But wait no; you have Stamets and Book. Sure, one of them is doing community service, but Stamets must have logs. And you can call Book whenever to be like "hey we need you to operate the spore drive"
Or you can't tell me all Kwejians were on Kwejian when the DMA hit. There must've been at least a couple empaths who were out there, right?
#star trek discovery spoilers#Star trek discovery#paul stamets#cleveland booker#admiral vance#ruon tarka#Displacement activated spore hub drive#Spore drive
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Some Terms 1/?
M-Cycler: While there are certainly other variations of species, the most common type of intelligent species in the galaxy are ones that breathe in Oxygen and breathe out Carbon Dioxide. And the second most common breathe in Carbon Dioxide while breathing out Oxygen. Before the founding of the Federation, the Vulcan Science Directorate (one of the Federation’s precursors) designated terrestrial planets that worked on the principle of Oxygen <-> Carbon Dioxide exchange as Minshara or M-Class worlds. The Federation has simply kept that classification and (greatly) extended it. The Federation favors interest in M-Class worlds and M-Cycler species because they’re common, all of the Federation founding species were M-Cyclers, and the ability to share environments is generally easily within their tech level which is a large part of what allows the Federation to exist. Fun fact that most people even in the Federation don’t know: the Vulcan word Minshara actually means “Mentally Unstable.” Contrary to popular belief among Non-Vulcans, the Vulcans have a well developed sense of humor and it often came out in their scientific language use.
Minsharanoid: The vastly over applied indexing of species with generally Vulcan-like traits. Basically the same word as Humanoid but without the attachment to a single species. It also allows for variation on the schema as long as the impression is correct. So bipedal humanoids and tripedal humanoids are both included because they both look like humanoids at a glance. Again, this is one of those traits that lets the Federation function. Since the extreme majority of member species are Minsharanoid, a single environmental design with minimal accommodations is possible. So the Federation favors interest in Minsharanoids as opposed to other possibilities. Vulcans did not use this classification prior to the Federation and generally define it in their own literature now as anything that looks like it could join the Federation. In private, Federation scholars acknowledge that this is actually the correct definition. Minshara and Minsharan are sometimes used as synonyms for Minsharanoid. Minsharan is starting to gain populaity over Minsharanoid because of the ease of pronunciation.
Minsharan: See Minsharanoid.
Vulcanoid: Even more specifically equivalent to humanoid. A Vulcanoid is defined as a Minsharanoid with bilateral symmetry, bipedalism, fully upright posture, differentiated feet & hands, a head with binocular vision, has a circulatory system that participates in the Minshara exchange cycle, etc. Many species are described as Vulcanoid excepting for some particular feature. So a Cyclopsian species would be a Giant Monocular Vulcanoid. Again, this is of interest to the Federation because most of its member species are Vulcanoid, making their infrastructure shareable.
Vulcanian: Even more specifically Vulcan-like than Vulcanoid. This is on the same level as Sebaceous. It states very similar biological and mental processes to Vulcans. Sebaceans and Humans are both Vulcanoids but they’re Sebaceous instead of Vulcanian. Some known Vulcanian species: Vulcans, Romulans, Remans, Mintakans, Betazoids, Cairn, Minarins, Vians, Talosians, Deltans, Haliian, Kwejians, and Lumerians. It is has been hypothesized that one of the possible recent historical divergence points between Sebaceans and Humans is that Humans could have evolved into a Vulcanian species which is why Sebacean - Vulcan hybrid children are possible without technological intervention. The hypothesis is based on the rare occurrence of Human Telepaths where there are no recorded instances of Sebacean Telepaths.
Sebaceous: Humanoid. This term is currently generally frowned on as elitist and culturally insensitive. Many species have critiqued the Federation as a Sebacean-only club. While equally problematic, the term Vulcanoid hasn't accrued as much distaste, simply because there aren't as many Vulcans as there are Sebaceans. Minshara, Minsharan, or Minsharanoid are the preferred terms.
Humanoid: a proposed term based on the controversial hypothesis that Humans, not Sebaceans, are the default for the species type. Suggested by the extraordinarily high incidence of Human inhabited Preserver worlds. The same evidence is used by the extreme fringe to suggest that Humans are the actual ancestral basis of all Humanoid species and there is a lost era where Humans went out to settle the Galaxy, had a civilization collapse, and subsequently evolved into the statistically improbable Galaxy that currently exists. This fringe suggests that the Preservers, whoever they were or are, would be the direct descendants of the original Human species who is trying to Preserve their ancestral nature and history. They point against to the unlikelihood of so much unity of species traits when there’s no reason for so much lack of diversity. This ignores the equal likelihood that any other Minsharanoid species could benefit by the same argument. This radical fringe will probably prevent the term Humanoid from ever achieving any kind of broad acceptance.
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I really don't think Book is the only surviving Kwejian.
I can't remember where I heard/read this, Kwejian had warp capabilities for a century. So, somebody somewhere had to be off planet when Kwejian was destroyed by the 10-C, aside from Book.
I have this headcannon that there’s a colony of Kwejians thriving somewhere, and Book just hasn't found them yet.
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I agree, and I also hate that they made the destroy-the-entire-planet mistake again with Kwejian in Discovery. Kwejian wasn’t an enemy or rival of the Federation like the Klingons or Romulans, instead being a neutral planet, but it still wasn’t fair.
I know they were wanting to set up a reason for some people to be afraid of Species Ten-C and to want to destroy the dark matter anomaly rather than go the route of diplomacy, but they didn’t have to have an inhabited planet be destroyed for that. The DMA could have destroyed an uninhabited planet and people would be just as concerned about it potentially hitting an inhabited one. It also gave Book a huge amount of trauma that wasn’t necessary for his character development.
Don’t get me wrong, season 4 of Discovery is definitely the series’ strongest, but it’s still held back by the writing decision to destroy Kwejian.
Here’s an unpopular Star Trek take.
I’m tired of every alien species’s home planets being destroyed.
We had the Klingon moon Praxis explode weakening the Klingons.
We had the Romulan Star go supernova and destroy Romulus.
We had Vulcan being destroyed in one of the alternate timelines.
We had Cardassia destroyed due to the Dominion War.
The Klingon one was meant as an allegory for the then very relevant dismantling of the Iron Curtain and end of the Soviet Union. That’s fine…
But then they did it again. And again. And again. Every new alien threat gets their world destroyed. I think Romulans are far more interesting before the evacuation has to take place. I do not see how destroying Romulus gives us better insight into the Romulans or allows us to tell better stories. It’s just taking away an entire Alien’s race before we ever really truly got to know them. Again, with the Klingons we had like 30 years of conflict and we knew a lot about their culture. But Romulans were intentionally secretive. We only got bits and pieces and small glimpses of them before it was all destroyed.
I hate this trend. I see no value in it. It’s just taking away world building (literally) and it’s overused and over done now. It also makes prior episodes of Star Trek worse now. So much for “reunification” with Spock and the Romulans. Let’s wipe out the enter Vulcan home planet to make Spock get angry and then never really address it again.
Sorry, but this is one of those things that pisses me off.
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To be clear, I love Michael and Book's relationship in the show and how healthy and communicative they are. That's rare to see in TV, especially to still have a compelling dynamic without unhealthy conflict, and especially for black love. I'm very glad that their relationship is the way that it is in canon.
However, in our little fanon sandbox, it could be fun to make them dangerously codependent. Particularly since ashburn was already a nightmare of codependency with Ash needing her in a completely unrealistic way and getting upset when she said "Hey, you tried to kill me. I'm gonna break up with you."
She could easily mirror similar behavior during the lost year without Discovery when he is her entire support system and experience the flipside of the coin. Or, he could become entirely dependent upon her after Kwejian is destroyed and she has to be like "Jesus Christ, again?" Or, both.
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