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theprinceandthewitch · 2 days ago
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#Why do people in the LGBTQ+ community moralize bisexuality?#It's because we are a group of people that has been deemed “inferior”#Why should they respect us as people when we are simply creatures acting on our own inferiority?#This is why you get non bisexuals and pick me bisexuals proclaiming bisexuals in a “het” relationship don't belong in their own community#even if the people in the “het” relationship are both bisexual#this is also why you get “brilliant” comments suggesting bisexuals go to DV organizations centered around helping gay people#wow Rebecca that is such an intelligent thing to say... I bet the gay people would sure love to hear bis talk about their “het”#relationships. Because you know -- bisexuals and gay ppl are totally the same and have the same problems [this is sarcasm]#your intelligence really is.... unique#I guess you also think it would be a good idea for bisexuals to talk about their “gay” relationships with straight people#see these mind games don't work on me anymore because everyone who says shit like this is actually a fucking loser#i don't need non bisexuals to lecture me on my non existent privilege... you motherfuckers haven't been on a date in 10 years#no one likes you because youre unpleasant to be around#but of course you will never see your current state of loneliness as something you are responsible for because you are a perpetual victim#it's much easier to blame your problems on someone else [ei: bisexuals] than to take accountability for your actions#and actually do the work to fix your fucked up life
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befuddledcinnamonroll · 9 days ago
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15 Day Bl Challenge - Part 4
Day 59 - What's a hill you're willing to die on when it comes to BL?
Lol, I probably have an unhealthy number of hills around BL. I think a lot of it is due to my age, and having grown up with ZERO good or fun representation in my media. "These kids today" cranky old lady thoughts, y'all. But for everyone's sake, I will try to keep this simple and not get too ranty.
Not liking something is not remotely the same as it being objectively bad.
Like all art, media is a subjective experience. It just is. You can make plenty of lists about what constitutes "good" and "bad", you can write long analytical posts, you can make valid points about writing, acting, and cinematography, you can bitch until the sun goes down, it doesn't change this. Art is subjective.
There may be general "rules" in terms of what is effective art, and what tends to speak the most to the largest group of people, but also every single one of those rules has been broken at some point in a successful piece of media.
At the end of the day, we all have our own distinct lens and distinct experience with what we are consuming.
No one is wrong for liking something you don't like. No one is inferior to you for their taste. No one is less authentically queer for liking what they like. No one is wrong for enjoying content you deem toxic. No one is wrong if they watch shows for reasons you think are unworthy.
Also, to interfans, please, please, please take the time to reflect on your biases before you slam the media of other countries. There's a lot of xenophobic/racist shit that gets put out there because people don't take the time to consider why they think the way they do.
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bitchy-peachy · 28 days ago
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I frankly think there's also a strong element of cultural Evangelicism present in the mindset behind Third Parties, and honestly a lot of other things that have been co-opted by the worst aspects of the left.
They don't really want to DO any of the work necessary to make their dreams a reality, because doing so would risk "tainting them with impurity" of the realities of such a thing. They'd have to make difficult compromises, talk and pull people into their group via understanding and compassion instead of basically acting like a cult, and not be so damn condescending towards those they deem inferior.
They don't want that. They view third parties, socialism, communism, worker's rights, etc. not as tangible things with complex histories and difficulties and consequences, but as their mythical "pure" belief system that will swoop in and stomp their enemies, kill the haters, and plop them at the top of the food chain without them having to lift a finger or actually care about the people they claim to stand for.
They want to sneer down from atop their throne (coughHeavencough) and praise themselves as the morally pure chosen ones who made the "right decisions" and who have no blood on their hands because they expect OTHER "lesser" people to make the tough sacrifices which they can then condemn while they pretend they themselves are blameless.
And if they don't succeed? well then it's ALL the filthy impure people's fault for not getting with the program of sacrificing themselves for the gain of the "right people"! It's NEVER their fault.
And that's why they won't do anything. That's why third parties, socialism, and the like can't ever gain any significant foothold for long, or actively sabotage themselves constantly:
Because frankly, a far too large chunk of the far left has been taken over by selfish egotistical assholes who will literally let us all die if they don't get what they want to the letter, with their name in bold to preen about how THEY'RE the saviors, even if it means destroying their own cause in the process.
I just got reminded of a quote that went along the lines of "You're so afraid of doing something 'bad' that you don't do anything at all."
A lot of these people acting morally superior with their lame useless 3rd party or non-voting stance really remind me of this.
They still fucked up because they can't be taken seriously, least of all now. They're weak, too emotional and they actually put people off.
They've said racist shit to me and my friends, told us to die etc and then push 3rd party voting because they wanted to punish democrats.
What they did was just punish the people. Politicians still are getting their fat cheques, genocide still exists, minorities are more fucked than ever in this country.
That's their grand fucking "accomplishment" with their 3rd party.
(Don't get me started on how they didn't even know how truly fucked up their "candidates" were. One of them was a fucking transphobe and another a deadbeat shit dad.)
Who tf is gonna listen to pieces of shit that act up like this and push candidates like those? We were already done with Trump as it is and they sprung more shit assed candidates for parties they didn't even build.
As long as they continue squatting on this shit, they'll get nowhere.
Also, I never see a "perfect commie party" winning any election in the future like these delusional tankies want.
Their bullshit is extremely unpopular in all sides and they're genuinely unlikeable people.
They act like privileged whiny brats. I just block them at this point cos I'm tired of rolling my eyes every time I see their shit.
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What’s your opinion on people who are mentally ill? By comparing religion to a mental illness, what are you trying to imply?
That we should treat people claiming to have knowledge of, and be in contact with, a divine creator of the entire universe who wants to take you to heaven if you believe, or torture you forever if you don't...
... as being on the exact same level as people claiming to have knowledge of, and be in contact with, an Invisible Pink Unicorn flying overhead who will take you to the Land of Chocolate when you die if you believe, or trap you in a line at the DMV for eternity if you don't.
There is no difference. They are the same.
Now, we can show compassion for the paranoid schizophrenic plagued by concern about the Invisible Pink Unicorn spying on her at every moment, monitoring her thoughts, terrified of being tortured by an imaginary being. But we don't need to pander to her or validate her delusions; we don't need to say that' because it's real to her, that makes it real; we don't need to play along; we don't have to accept laws being made based on the wishes of the unicorn; we don't need to feel compelled to believe in it ourselves, or even pretend to; we don't need to go along with the rituals of the unicorn-believer, nor accept being treated as morally inferior when we don't. We can say, no, what you're talking about is a figment of your fevered mind, you need help. And we can hope she gets treatment, overcomes this malady, recovers and joins us in reality.
Same with the person who believes in a god or gods.
Did you know that the DSM, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders for mental health diagnosis, has an explicit exception for religious beliefs in the definition of delusion?
Here’s how the DSM-5 defines delusions in the section "Schizophrenia Spectrum and Other Psychotic Disorders":
“Delusions are fixed beliefs that are not amenable to change in light of conflicting evidence. Their content may include a variety of themes (e.g., persecutory, referential, somatic, religious, grandiose). Persecutory delusions (i.e., belief that one is going to be harmed, harassed, and so forth by an individual, organization, or other group) are most common. Referential delusions (i.e., belief that certain gestures, comments, environmental cues, and so forth are directed at oneself) are also common. Grandiose delusions (i.e., when an individual believes that he or she has exceptional abilities, wealth, or fame) and erotomanic delusions (i.e., when an individual believes falsely that another person is in love with him or her) are also seen. Nihilistic delusions involve the conviction that a major catastrophe will occur, and somatic delusions focus on preoccupations regarding health and organ function.
Delusions are deemed bizarre if they are clearly implausible and not understandable to same-culture peers and do not derive from ordinary life experiences. An example of a bizarre delusion is the belief that an outside force has removed his or her internal organs and replaced them with someone else’s organs without leaving any wounds or scars. An example of a nonbizarre delusion is the belief that one is under surveillance by the police, despite a lack of convincing evidence. Delusions that express a loss of control over mind or body are generally considered to be bizarre; these include the belief that one’s thoughts have been “removed” by some outside force (thought withdrawal), that alien thoughts have been put into one’s mind (thought insertion), or that one’s body or actions are being acted on or manipulated by some outside force (delusions of control). The distinction between a delusion and a strongly held idea is sometimes difficult to make and depends in part on the degree of conviction with which the belief is held despite clear or reasonable contradictory evidence regarding its veracity.”
"Fixed beliefs that are not amenable to change in light of conflicting evidence" is also a good definition of faith. "Faith" is just delusions recast as virtues.
Thinking you know the will and have the ear of a magical wizard in the sky who grants you wishes and will carry you up to the clouds after you die certainly qualifies as a delusion. However, in the glossary, the DSM-5 qualifies the term:
delusion A false belief based on incorrect inference about external reality that is firmly held despite what almost everyone else believes and despite what constitutes incontrovertible and obvious proof or evidence to the contrary. The belief is not ordinarily accepted by other members of the person’s culture or subculture (i.e., it is not an article of religious faith).
No justification is given for this qualification. Whether it's accepted by other members is irrelevant to whether or not it's false. The Invisible Pink Unicorn doesn't become less of a delusion when a church forms around worshiping it.
"George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and Christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd." ― Sam Harris
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themainspoon · 4 months ago
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Came across a bell hooks quote about cultural appropriation that I love: "ethnicity becomes spice, seasoning that can liven up the dull dish that is mainstream white culture." I like it because I think it speaks to an idea that I've been playing with for a while, which is about what happens to a culture when it begins to be imposed and to become a dominant and omnipresent norm.
One of the ideological systems that informs how white "western" nations perceive "non-western" nations — as well as the concept of "western"-ness itself — is Orientalism. The idea that the world is split between the logical and advanced "Occident" and the strange, mystical, and inferior "Orient". These ideas of course served to portray White Europeans as superior to every other culture and ethnic group, and are core elements of ideas such as "the white man's burden". But I think an interesting thing happens when you define the other as strange and exotic, because while you mark them as inferior, you also make them deeply interesting and novel from your perspective.
White European cultures (specifically English culture) are constructed as a sort of "default state" (one that has been and is imposed on almost every other culture on earth through both imperialism and hegemony), and I think this imagined "defaultness" also results in these dominant cultures becoming deeply boring to those who live in them. You've constructed the other as strage, exotic, and compelling, and you've also constructed yourself as the antithesis of those other cultures. Everywhere you go you can find your language, your food, your art, and your clothing. This was all done on purpose, but this imposition caused these dominant cultures to become normal, uninteresting, and invisible to those living within them, a bland grey sludge that could be spread all over the globe.
The main joke about "British food" is that it's boring and flavourless. Ultimately, we kind of end up joking that It's not like all the interesting and unique food from "the Orient" (even if we never say it like that). It's boring because we think of it as standard, we call it flavourless because the ingredients that add flavour to those dishes (garlic, onion, leek, salt, pepper, and a ton of herbs) are not considered interesting and flavourful when compared to the "exotic" and "interesting" herbs and spices of the "Orient".
Anything that becomes the hegemonic norm also becomes boring, and so a process of appropriating things from the cultures that the dominant culture marginalised begins. People want to be interesting and unique, they need something that allows them to escape the boredom of being part of the dominant culture. Therefore, they begin to steal from the cultures they deem "exotic" and "unique".
I'm beggining to think that we need to stop believing what dominant cultures and identity groups have to say about themselves, because they constantly lie about themselves (and also to themselves). These dominant white cultures perpetuate ideologies based on the idea that they are superior, civilised, and universal. However, while these cultures do cast themselves as the superior hegemons and enforce that discourse on an international scale, the practices of cultural appropriation give them away, and reveal the truth under the lie of supremacy.
In reality, the dominant white cultures of the "western" world (and especially those in colonial nations) find themselves insufferably boring. they view themselves as plain and uninteresting, they become non-cultures, devoid of novelty or interest. This is why so many white people get those DNA testing kits, they hope to discover that they have some "exotic" heritage that would render them "interesting", give them a claim to any culture other than their own. I think that deep down, under everything it claims and does, I don't think it would be inaccurate to say that whiteness hates itself. It consumes comercialised and decontextualised versions of the cultures it marginalised through imperialism and colonialism for the sake of trying to regain a sense of the uniqueness and novelty it denied itself by becoming hegemonic and imposing itself on everyone and everything that it could.
I also just quickly want to acknowledge that I've conceptualised a lot of things a bit strangely here. I've written about cultures "talking" and in doing so I've kind of personified complex social structures for the sake of abstracting them to a point at which I can communicate my train of thought. Also I think that there may be an overuse of so called "scare quotes". But ultimately, this is a Tumblr post, and I think that it works well enough in terms of allowing me to communicate my thinking, and this isn't an academic article either so I think the standards can be (and hopefully are) lower.
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thatstormygeek · 1 year ago
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Donald Trump has been gaming this system since forever. it’s been his business model all along — to cheat investors and stiff contractors and then use the courts to his advantage, to drag everything out until his opponents give up or go broke.
which brings us to the question raised in the title of this piece: what kind of shithole country lets a corrupt criminal hell-bent on settling scores run for president? the sad answer is: ours.
Such a normal, functional nation
Congress got next to nothing done during the past year and could accomplish even less in 2024 as attention shifts to the November elections. House Republican and Senate Democratic leaders reached agreement on bills and resolutions they sent to the president’s desk just 34 times during the first year of the 118th Congress — making that session the least productive in decades.
Oklahoma Republican Rep. Tom Cole, chair of the House Rules Committee, said in late December he hadn’t heard what legislation would move through his committee this year, but doesn’t expect much....Cole said Democrats, who control the Senate, are just as much to blame for the low number of laws as Republicans, who control the House. But, he noted that it’s not necessarily a bad thing for Congress to be less productive than normal. “If you’re Republican, you believe in less government, and not doing something is sometimes a good thing,” Cole said. “Just because we passed a law, doesn’t mean it was a good law and doesn’t mean it has a positive effect. But again, I think it’s more a function of what the distribution of power is, how polarized the country is right now.”
Ah, yes, the "less government" pushed by passing a shitload of unconstitutional laws restricting abortion and discriminating against LGBTQIA folks. But I guess those don't count as "big government" because they are at the state level.
From movies, television drama, and popular culture, we have generally gotten the idea that the Nazi government was frothingly, explicitly, compulsively racist, and that its popularity, power and brutality were such that there was virtually no possibility of dissent without extreme punishment. The Republican party uses dogwhistles rather than explicitly saying it wants to murder Black people, Jews, and LGBT people (though, again, it’s been pretty explicit on that last.) It includes many people who clearly don’t intend to go out in the street with guns and shoot Democrats. So how can it be fascist?
There was not, Koonz emphasizes, any one point at which a single racist line was enforced. There were arguments about whether Jewish people were biologically inferior, culturally inferior, or theologically inferior. Some academics or officials even were what Koonz calls “yes, but” Nazis—those “semi-Nazis” Hamid refuses to believe in—who could, Koonz says, “welcome ethnic fundamentalism and economic recovery while dismissing Nazi crimes as incidental.” Nazis didn’t necessarily have to hate Jewish people personally. They just had to believe that the pure German volk had a great destiny, and that their loyalty lay with that volk. Once they agreed to that, the genocide took care of itself.
It's funny (in a not at all amusing way) how Godwin's Law used to be used to shut down discussions of discrimination and bigotry. You don't hear much about it anymore. Wonder why that is...
Substack has a zero-tolerance policy towards some things—they won’t platform sex workers or anything else they deem porn, for example—but political bad actors, apparently, they’re willing to give the benefit of the doubt. Responding to a group of anti-Nazi Substackers who wrote an open letter, Substack co-founder Hamish McKenzie replied in this Note, “We believe that supporting individual rights and civil liberties while subjecting ideas to open discourse is the best way to strip bad ideas of their power. We are committed to upholding and protecting freedom of expression, even when it hurts.” “…other people,” I’m tempted to add. Because from a short-term business perspective platforming Nazis doesn’t hurt Substack—unlike Twitter, there are no advertisers to cancel their ad buys. And one of the sacraments of modern Tech is that, unlike every publisher before them, digital outfits can somehow “publish” things without being responsible for them. In the eyes of the STEM folks who create the apps and the flacks who run interference, the code-only nature of digital platforms render them neutral somehow, uninvolved. Twitter or Facebook or Substack, they are simply providing an arena where the “best ideas” can fight their way to the top, and the techies make a clean dollar by charging the spectators admission. That’s not how any of this works, and if we didn’t know it in 2005, we sure as shit do now. To publish—on paper or via cable or pixels—is to vouch for, and spread, and allow to spread, and Nazi ideas have been thoroughly tried and tested and found to be destructive and evil. Nazi ideas get your audience killed. Every publisher knows this; it’s just that some publishers cynically think it won’t be their readers.
Lampoon’s writing was good, the illustrations were funny, but the snap and sparkle arose from the fact that we all knew—the writers, the illustrators, and especially the readers—that every page would upset Mom. That made the jokes a lot better; that was the Secret Sauce. When you read Lampoon you weren’t a reader—you were a member of a secret club of free men. Honest, devoted to Truth, unafraid of Mom. How much of MAGA is white men from precisely this era—Boomers and Gen X—who define freedom as precisely the feeling they got from reading National Lampoon at age 14? How many people hated Hillary Clinton precisely because she was Mom? And I get it. I’m 54. As a person ages, that sense of who-gives-a-fuck becomes ever-rarer, until it looms like Gatsby’s green light. So…a new magazine full of the writers and artists who used to give me that sweet who-gives-a-fuck? Sign me up! I got many emails from comedy notables, expressing excitement and support, and every single one of them mentioned this sense of freedom via outrageousness, how it was so powerful they still remembered it, how it determined their career, how much they missed it, how much they longed for it. And if some star making $10 million a year still feels hemmed in by Mom—not his Mom, she’s probably dead, but the Over-Mom—imagine the craving of some guy in Chillicothe, finishing out a drab career in IT.
The election of Trump in 2016 made my two-horse dance impossible; I had to let outrage go entirely, and leap to decency. The moment civility cracked and that man waddled through, the stakes were clearly too high to fuck around. I toyed with the idea of going “blue”—letting sex provide the outrage—and I still might, but that too has a ceiling on it. For one thing, places like Substack won’t allow it; the corporate mainstream may be okay with Day One Dictators, but exposed pudenda are definitely not acceptable. (For reasons, I must admit, I do not fathom.) But I don’t even need sex; were I in this solely to make a buck, it would be the easiest thing imaginable to turn The American Bystander from a mainstream humor magazine into a Buckley-ite peering-down-the-nose “satire” rag. It’s a genteel-looking print magazine; I’m a Yale guy who cleans up pretty good and will talk your ear off about Ancient Rome—think Lewis Lapham, only half as tall and twice as dirty. Shit, The American Bystander already sounds like the Cato Institute’s in-house dating Discord. Two hours after publicly pivoting right, I’d have three or four deep-pocketed reactionaries knocking on my door, looking to invest. I even know their names. The one thing the right-wing has never been able to buy is laughter; from Elon on down, it burns them that as rich and powerful as they get, nobody thinks they’re funny. Part of this is immaturity, but they also know how useful comedy can be. Comedians like to talk about how jokes bring us together—“shared humanity argyle-bargle”—but jokes are actually even better at defining who’s human and who’s not. Jim Crow thrived on racial humor, and when the Nazis were in charge of UfA, they made more comedies than any other type of movie.
Obviously I've been posting a lot about the substack thing, but just as obviously it's not just substack.
If you watched the hours of TV news coverage during an especially momentous week in August, there was little sense of that reality, and for long stretches of pundit blather, none at all — as talking heads gave earnest high school debating marks to candidates who are all but ignored by the GOP voter base. The disconnect deepened the next night as Trump turned what would surely be his comeuppance — his surrender at Atlanta’s bug-infested county jail for fingerprinting and a mug shot ― into an outlaw display of authoritarian force. It was a remarkable night of imagery over substance, yet there was little discussion of why this accused felon was getting a phalanx of dozens of motorcycle cops, comprising police who are drawn to Trump’s authoritarian bluster like moths to the light. Trump’s glowering mug shot instantly became the most talked about picture in American history — yet not one pundit was able to explain why tens of millions of everyday voters are so eager to return to the White House this man who attempted a coup on Jan. 6, 2021, or why his poll numbers rise with each indictment. I guess the 20th-century author and socialist Upton Sinclair really nailed it when he wrote, “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
America is entering its most important, pivotal year since 1860, and the U.S. media is doing a terrible job explaining what is actually happening. Too many of us — with our highfalutin poli-sci degrees and our dog-eared copies of the late Richard Ben Cramer’s What It Takes — are still covering elections like it’s the 20th century, as if the old touchstones like debates or a 30-second spot still matter. What we are building toward on Nov. 5, 2024, might have the outward trappings of an election, but it is really a show of force. What we call the Republican Party is barely a political party in any sense of the word, but a dangerous antisocial movement that has embraced many of the tenets of fascism, from calls for violence to its dehumanizing of “others” — from desperate refugees at the border to transgender youth. There is, in reality, no 2024 primary because this movement embraced its infallible strongman in Trump eight years ago. And there is no “Trump scandal” because — for them — each new crime or sexual assault is merely another indictment of the messenger, the arrogant elites from whom their contempt is the number one issue. These foot soldiers stopped believing in “democracy” a long time ago — no matter how big an Orwellian sign Fox News erects. If you watch enough not-Fox cable TV news, you’ll occasionally see an expert on fascism like New York University’s Ruth Ben-Ghiat or Yale’s Timothy Snyder explaining the roots of this American authoritarianism, or you can read a piece like Margaret Sullivan’s Guardian take on the fascist appeal of Trump-clone Ramaswamy. But then it’s back to your regular programming, including a desperate desire to frame today’s clash in the context of long-lost 20th-century democratic norms, and to blame any transgressions on a mysterious “tribalism” that plagues “both sides.”
It's this singular refusal to at least admit that something fucky is going on that kills me. We can all see it. Stop lying. Stop pretending that people existing and people calling for those people to not exist are somehow comparable speech.
Last September, Hanania wrote that the left gives him “a lot more free speech than I would give them if the tables were turned,” referring to the baseless right-wing belief that Twitter under pre-Musk ownership was “overwhelmingly liberal.” “If I owned Twitter, I wouldn’t let feminists, trans activists, or socialists post. Why should I? They’re wrong about everything and bad for society.” Keep in mind that these are the things he’s been writing under his own name and earning him praise from the likes of Elon Musk, J.D. Vance, Steven Pinker, Marc Andreessen, David Sacks, Peter Thiel, Vivek Ramaswamy, and even Substack’s founders. He’s been favorably referenced in the New York Times (and as mentioned above, has written for them), written for the Washington Post, and, well, you get the idea.
I mean, just, I dunno. It's like the idea of just not saying anything rather than spouting an obvious lie has been completely lost. Or maybe intentionally discarded. I mean, why not lie if you aren't going to get called on it, or nobody cares if you do?
Hallmark then flip-flopped, apologizing for pulling the ads and claiming they have been "a progressive pioneer on television for decades" and "committed to diversity and inclusion." Which is, of course, laughable to anyone who has even glancing knowledge of the channel's offerings. Running down this year's schedule of Christmas movie offerings is like a trip into an uncanny valley of shiny-teethed, blow-dried heteronormative whiteness, with only a few token movies with characters of color. It's like watching "The Stepford Wives," but scarier, since the evil plot to replace normal people with robots is never actually revealed. None of this should be a surprise, because Hallmark movies, as cloying and saccharine as they are, constitute the platonic ideal of fascist propaganda.
There's plenty of reason that empty-headed kitsch fits neatly in the authoritarian worldview. It's storytelling that imitates the gestures of emotion without actually engaging with real feeling. The Hallmark movie steers clear of the real passion or deeper emotion that tends to be the engine driving more artful fiction. Characters who have real feelings, after all, can prompt empathetic reactions in the audience, and empathy for others is the greatest single threat to the authoritarian mindset. And so schmaltz walks through the paces of "love" without touching on any of the messy but compelling realities of it. Instead of characters driven by real feelings, therefore, the guiding hand of "normalcy" pulls the characters along through narratives — and unsurprisingly, that idea of "normalcy" doesn't have a lot of room for the true diversity of American experiences.
I dunno. I'm in my mid-forties and I'm a little nervous that my suppressed rage storage seems to be nearly full. And I'm tired. Guess I'll keep putting one foot in front of the other, trying to help people and make the world better because that's all I know to do. I just don't really have any hope that it's worth anything.
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dianight · 1 year ago
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Sad that the internet is so hostile to women and cis women. Like tumblr at least does the thing where you get to choose (imagine!) what you want to see while everywhere else you are subjected to the metaphorical screams of people who think women are aliens or something.
Meanwhile you'll see idiots proudly declare that in spain we are so very tolerant of trans people, yes we are. Nevermind that the difference between not being transphobic and answering a poll saying that "you agree that trans people exist" as the highest possible level of support to count is massive.
I've been grinding poe for a while and occassionally I'll have the global chat active for hardcore reasons and read what people are saying.
Not like many people play ruthless hcssf in the first place, even less talk in chat. But I've had to ignore certain players because they'll repeatedly type the most insane shit.
The kind of stuff that I'd expect an edgy teenager to say for shock value, but for real.
For me to acknowledge someone's existence they must:
Understand that women are people. Seems simple. It is. Low bar. Yet. If someone talks about women as if they are another species, or inferior to men, or objects; that person is beneath me. They don't exist. Like reverse solipsism. Men who think themselves inferior to women can be tolerated as long as they understand the point.
Understand that LGBT people are people. A bit more complex. Lesbians are not for men to lust after[1]. Gays are not just a part of a joke or an insult. Bisexual people exist in their many flavours; a bi woman dating a woman is still bi, if she were dating a man she'd still be bi, you get the point, and viceversa, and all the colours you can think of[2]. Trans people exist and they'd like to exist in peace[3].
Understand that the us is not the whole world. If an usamerican talks about their experiences as if they are universal they must hold their breath for 1 hour. I wish not to care about what goes on that shithole but unfortunately many of their laws have effects on the internet I use thus it is every usamerican's duty to make the world a better place one frag at a time. They can start with themselves or the nearest billionaire.
Understand that anime/manga/novels and any other form of media that they did not grow up with is not inherently bad. Disliking anime because of a few tropes that some series have and generalizing it to and entire medium is racist. Using the word degenerate[4] to refer to yourself or others is insulting. Thinking that japanese people[5] are inherently pedophilic/incestous/rapey because of a few tropes is racist. Thinking that Japan is some magical place where they have unique values/better culture is still racist.
Understand that sex acts between consenting people[6] are none of anyone else's concern. Consenting people doing nasty things in their house? Cool. Consenting people doing disgusting things in some hotel/bathroom/alley? Cool. Consenting people doing kinky things in public? Cool. I'd personally find it distasteful, but still. People wearing revealing clothes, showing their bare chest or genitals, wearing collars or anything else deemed "fetish gear"? Cool. A society where consenting adults can do whatever harmless thing they want to do is what I want.
Understand that water, food, housing, clothing, education, entertainment, healthcare and others (!!!) are things that should be available for everyone for free inconditionally. Working together so that we can achieve these is the bare minimum that humanity should reach. If someone disagrees with this, or has some conditions, or some prerequisites to access them, or wants to play devils advocate for the many groups whose interests align against these: stick your head underwater and take a deep, deep breath.
Those are the very, very simple and easy facts[7] that I expect other humans that try to communicate with me to understand.
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[1] Identity stuff is complicated. We know who I am referring to here. Default characters. Cis white straight males. If someone identifies as a guy and gets with lesbians and everyone is happy, good for them.
[2] Identity Sexuality stuff is complicated. Can't really include enbys and other genders because it'd get long. Same for other sexualities. You get the idea.
[3] I do not speak for other trans people. But I echo what I've seen others say.
[4] Please it is on wikipedia for fucks sake. Not one to police how others use words but come on. The only acceptable use of degen is when talking about negative regeneration.
[5] Should say asians but I think in this particular instance it will stay like that. It applies to a lot of manhwa and manhua too. Could include a bit about hentai but I think that'd be its own post.
[6] Consenting adults with consenting adults. Consenting teenagers with consenting teenagers. Pretending it doesn't happen will not make it stop happening.
[7] Could also include other facts about skin colour (I'm white btw), religion (no thoughts head empty), sinophobia (China ok) and others that don't come to mind atm but I'm tired so good night.
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mysticalcoffeequeen · 2 years ago
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The term Karen refers to a Middle-Aged (entitled) White Woman who publicly overreacts often to the point of hostility over what is essentially a small inconvenience. Examples range from a coffee order missing one ingredient to calling the police on a POC for simply sitting on a park bench in her neighborhood. Karen’s behavior is one of selfish outrage, condescending, entitled & cruel towards others who have done very little to nothing to provoke such behavior. Even when angered, those with base maturity know when confronted with rejection, to swallow their pride and handle it differently, but Karen’s are a category of prideful mentally immature adults who do not take well to getting anything but their own way and avoid accountability for the very real harm they cause to others as a result of being confronted with a simple “no”! So there she stands, overwhelmed & throwing a tantrum that she is the one who been extremely wronged and abused in the situation that she should be owed an apology for, & not the barista or POC who’s day she ruined because of something she really could have simply left alone.
This is not about female hysteria as a whole. That topic has been tackled in things like women under extreme stress, have an unchecked mental illness, or postpartum psychosis. This is not about standing up for one’s-self or silencing women, as being vocal while demonized has been the topic of “angry black/brown woman” discussions as well as discussions about women setting basic boundaries. This is not about slurs either, collectively we have been called a lot of things if not worse to this day. “Karen” is a mindset and one carried by a distinct group of people who have been told, convinced & assured that they are superior, exceptions are to be made for them and those they deem socially inferior should adhere to their rules without question!
Gotta say though reading “Karen is a slur that carries major cultural implications” is a pretty wild & hilarious take as its basically in line with what a Karen would say.
Can we talk about the blatant misogyny behind the "Karen"- trend again?
Women are attacking each other with a random female name, designed to indicate there's literal modern female hysteria being portraited by a another woman, sometimes older one who's being "overly dramatic & assertive" about things that supposedly shouldn't matter. What's a more genius way to silence women further than a comedic spectacle shaming them collectively with a term synonymous to 'overreacting crazy woman'?
Males are exhilarated over this, they create masses of accounts dedicated to "Karen fails" where they film women of all ages and backgrounds standing up for themselves often if not always nonconsensually. This is all to feed their hatred of women. They specifically seek it to feed those emotions through those pages.
Everyone using this term for whatever context now, is perpetuating and normalizing this phenomenon as acceptable, normal content to consume AND CREATE. By accepting this usage we're differentiating ourselves from other girls and women saying we're not like the crazy women, we're sane like men.
Girls, think again the next time you're beefing with each other, because this dumpsterfire of a phenomenon is a slur that has MAJOR cultural implications for all of our rights and the ability to be heard. We've all already witnessed the power memes and internet slander has, overpowering even the actual laws. Let's not make this the next 'bitch' & have our granddaughters have to reclaim the language.
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[“While human sexuality has always been with us, a scientific discipline dedicated to studying it first emerged in the late 1800s, closely on the heels of the fields of biology and psychiatry as we now know them. While scientists may strive to be objective in our accounts, we may nevertheless be unwittingly influenced (to one degree or another) by the ideologies and beliefs that are taken for granted in our culture. During this particular period, it was widely accepted within all these fields that men of Northern European heritage (who just so happened to be the people carrying out this theorizing and research) were superior to both women and people of other ethnicities. And much of this early research was geared toward “uncovering” these groups’ imagined deficiencies and defects. Today, this body of work is often described as scientific racism, which is an apt label, although it must be said that many of the same researchers were also quite interested in examining (and affirming) other social hierarchies.
Based on now discredited methods (crude measurements of skeletons and skulls, brain volumes, and other superficial anatomical differences) and specious interpretations of Darwin’s theory of evolution (which was still a relatively new concept at the time), sexologists and other scientists of this period converged on an overarching narrative, which I will outline here.
First, these researchers claimed that Europeans were more “highly evolved” than other ethnicities, not only because they were the most “civilized” (in their humble opinion) but also because they purportedly exhibited the highest levels of sex differentiation—physical differences between women and men—which they presumed was a sign of evolutionary progress. They also believed that the sex differentiation that existed among Europeans was likely the result of men having become “more evolved” than women, as evidenced by the former’s supposed superior intelligence and self-discipline. In contrast, the imagined lack of sex differentiation in non-white ethnicities was attributed to the fact that they were “bisexual”—this was not meant to denote sexual orientation, but rather that members of these groups supposedly expressed a combination of male and female characteristics. A supposed lack of sex differentiation is also found in another concept invented around this same time, namely, “sexual inversion,” which referred to people who were externally male but had “feminine souls” (or vice versa). Sexual inversion was the proposed cause of homosexuality—also a new term coined by sexologists during this period—although in retrospect, many individuals who were labeled “inverts” would today be described as falling elsewhere along the LGBTQIA+ spectrum.
So to sum up thus far, late-nineteenth-century researchers placed themselves atop their own imagined evolutionary hierarchy, and argued that everyone below them was 1) “less evolved” (often described as “childish,” “savage,” or “primitive” in their accounts), 2) comprised of a mixture of male and female sex characteristics (and thus excessively sexual), and 3) lacking in rationality, reason, and self-discipline. There is one more piece to this narrative, namely, “degeneration,” a once widely accepted (but now discarded) theory claiming that more “highly evolved” individuals can revert to a simpler, more primitive state over the course of their lifetime, and ultimately pass those inferior traits on to their offspring. During this period, degeneration was many scientists’ go-to explanation for all sorts of behaviors that were deemed socially undesirable, including prostitution, criminality, poverty, mental disabilities, and, of course, sexual inversion/homosexuality. Whenever people of European heritage exhibited any of these qualities, it was typically presumed that they had degenerated—due either to their own personal failings or those of their parents—to the point that they now resembled the “lower races,” particularly in their lack of self-control and intelligence. And how, pray tell, did this degeneration “spread” throughout the population? Through sex, of course. These researchers routinely cited masturbation and promiscuity as causes and/or symptoms of degeneration. Even worse, in their minds, were sexual interactions with other degenerates (such as inverts and prostitutes) and with people of non-European ethnicities. Women were believed to be especially susceptible to being “corrupted” by these groups, given that they too purportedly lacked the rationality and willpower to restrain their passions and desires.”]
julia serano, from sexed up: how society sexualizes us, and how we can fight back, 2022
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seventeenlovesthree · 3 years ago
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Digimon Adventure Last Evolution Kizuna Relationship Analysis: How the dramaturgy keeps telling the viewer that Taichi and Koushirou are always (and have always been) connected.
More than a year ago, I wrote my very first analysis post on Digimon Adventure Last Evolution Kizuna after having watched it for the first time - and my initial verdict regarding the relationship between Taichi and Koushirou was that there was some kind of implied drift between them. Granted, the narrative keeps hitting the viewer on the head about how it’s not easy to keep everyone together throughout adulthood and that Taichi’s situation (and mental health state) specifically is causing him to keep a distance to (the majority of) the others. Some of these points will still be part of the following analysis - however, after having watched the movie several times now and with a lot of bias pushed aside, I noticed that they’re actually more connected than the narrative makes you believe at first glance. Let’s take a look at this. (Disclaimer: There’s a lot of interpretation on my behalf of course, I’ve tried to gather as much evidence for my claims as possible, but in the end, it’s also still a fanon interpretation of their relationship.)
First of all, it’s noticable that the actual group still defending Tokyo from materializing Digimon has decreased significantly - at least at the time the movie takes place. Besides Takeru and Hikari, we only see Taichi and Yamato being involved in the first fight against Parrotmon, while Koushirou is managing the logistics from afar - not only is he the one able to open gates to the Digital World at will by now, but he is also the one who provides everyone with the technology they need for their fights to turn out successful. Smartphones, headphones, the (prototype) goggles Taichi uses... It’s easy to see how he’s basically their sponsor and Taichi the “guinea pig” to try it all out - and he does so voluntarily. Thanks to this translation here, we know that Taichi took the googles without permission. So while the others are obviously using Koushirou’s gadgets as well, Taichi seems to be particularly interested in trying them out.
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As mentioned, the phones the Chosen Children are using were also made by Koushirou’s company; he’s the connector who manages the Chosen Children network, he is being on-call and has all his contacts, chats and calls ready if required. It’s his logo that continuously appears throughout the movie. And why is it notable that it’s there? Because he and Taichi keep communicating with each other through electronic means; headphones, phones, text messages. And while Koushirou also contacts Yamato and Takeru to gather them all in his office, making it appear like a rather formal “work arrangement”, meeting up like that seems to be something Taichi definitely enjoys ditching his adult obligations for. Taichi immediately shuts down Koushirou apologizing to them for calling them despite knowing how busy they are; he dryly says that it’s an emergency, implying that it should have been natural for them to come after Koushirou asked - but seeing how giddy he appears to be upon going on an “adventure” with his closest buddies again, it does give the impression that he welcomes it all.
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It seems to be something that boosts his confidence, so him reassuring Koushirou that everything will be fine is a nice change of pace - especially when you take into consideration that we’ve seen him being quite gloomy in previous scenes, unsure about his future, unhappy in his part-time-job, all alone in his tiny flat. Probably dealing with a lot of insecurities, self-doubt and maybe even inferiority issues - because even if it was never outright mentioned, a (potentially) subtle little nudge towards Our War Game tells the viewer once more that Taichi Yagami (understandably) doesn’t like it when smart people around him make him feel dumb - or when Koushirou actually interacts with people he deems much smarter than himself. (Perhaps - despite it being quite a stretch - he might even feel inferior towards Koushirou himself, who, being the CEO of his own company at the age of only 21, already has his life together for the most part, whereas Taichi hasn’t. And thus, we do not see Taichi confide in Koushirou throughout the span of the movie - which doesn’t mean that they don’t talk about personal issues at all, but Taichi seems to be more inclined to - superficially - mope about his future angst with Yamato, while still keeping the majority of his doubts to himself. Again, that’s mainly interpretation.)
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Back to the communication part: One of the things that has been a constant throughout all of Digimon Adventure was that Taichi is relying on Koushirou figuring things out, giving him/them the information he/they need to progress. And even during adulthood, that still seems to be a thing. Sure, the narrative always required Koushirou to be “info-dump-boy” who easily figures out what is going on (because plot), but no matter how bleak things appear to be and even if they don’t seem as close with each other as they used to be on an emotional level, these two still trust in and rely on each other.
Taichi asks him about where Menoa resides, stays on the phone with him to make sure he’ll definitely know how to get to the place Hikari is being held hostage at - because he knows he can trust Koushirou 100%. In fact, despite the implied (emotional) distance, he actually seems to know quite a lot about what is going on with him - implying that, after all, he’s still attached to him. This is not only shown by him being the one who talks about Koushirou being the owner of a company to Yamato, but generally in the way he continuously mentions or refers to him.
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Looking at Koushirou’s perspective, he will go as far as to completely commit to the cause and sacrifice himself for the sake of making sure Taichi (and Yamato and everyone else) won’t lose their partners. His facial expressions throughout the movie tell you how bitter he is that he hasn’t figured anything out yet to stop the departure from happening. 
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The novel-only part about “The Candle Of Life” eventually foreshadows that Koushirou is indeed willing to sacrifice himself (which is something he has always done): “Instead of taking things from people against their will, I’d rather give to them what I have before my end.” And that is exactly what he does - he manages to get the coordinates to the Digital Realm to Taichi before losing his consciousness, by typing on a pre-paid-phone behind his back like it’s the easiest thing in the world. Obviously, Taichi trusts in that information without a single shred of doubt - because it’s Koushirou it’s coming from.
And Koushirou himself? It’s not really a surprise that he - and Hikari - are the ones who latch onto Taichi while they’re being turned back into children. Because Taichi has always been among those people he’s been the closest with. My theory back then was that it may have been a subconscious action, fueled by the wish to stop Taichi from destroying this ideal world, in order to bring back old times, easier times, times in which they were much closer than they are now. But then again - is it really the case? Because the connection between them hasn’t really vanished. Koushirou - as shown above several times now - has always stayed in touch with Taichi; telling him about Digimon attacking the city, about trouble coming up, about his sister being in danger, always making sure he’d be okay and safe. (Which might also explain why he was so furious about Taichi taking the prototype goggles - since he has made goggles for him for several years now, it’s fair to assume that he wants his own creations to not be a safety hazard to his friend. Plus, Koushirou has always been worried about Taichi doing reckless things - even the stageplay picked up on this, repeatedly and with emphasis -, so this should not be surprising either.)
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And in the end - as much as Taichi relies on Koushirou, Koushirou always relies on Taichi too. Hence why he sent the coordinates to him specifically. Because he’d always call/contact him first. He has done so since he was 10/11 and still does so as an adult.
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I saw a post of yours that said you support planned parenthood and wanted to give you a heads up not to support them. The founder was racist
Hi there! I'd like to put a disclaimer on this post that while everything is backed by research, the base opinion is my personal opinion and it's absolutely okay if you disagree. So as always, take what resonates and leave what doesn't. Buckle in, because this is going to be a very long response.
This is a bit of a complicated and highly controversial topic. Planned Parenthood was founded in 1916 by Margaret Sanger. There's been a lot of discussion in recent years regarding the idea that Margaret was a racist ableist that supported the ideology of eugenics. Eugenics was an ideology that supported selective breeding in order to create a "perfect race." This further supported the idea at the time of fit groups of people with desirable breeding traits (upper class white people) vs unfit groups of people considered to be inferior (people(s) of color, different religious backgrounds, people(s) of the lower class, and people(s) with undesirable physical and mental characteristics.) Margaret Singer was a revolutionary of her time for women's health and advocated for women's contraceptives, rights to control her own body, and general sex ed and health. Birth control was condemned at the time because it was considered highly immoral and would lead to "the suicide of the white race." This ideology made it difficult for Sanger to promote her beliefs and when the "science" of eugenics gained popularity, she saw an opportunity to ally with them out of strategy to provide legitimacy to her own movement and to speak on her agreement with the eugenics movement of the "need to put an end to breeding by the unfit." Eugenists used this alliance to push contraceptives into black communities and Sanger went as far as to endorse the 1927 Buck v. Bell decision, in which the Supreme Court ruled that states could forcibly sterilize people deemed “unfit” without their consent and sometimes without their knowledge. It's still debated whether or not Sanger agreed with or opposed the eugenic ideology along racial lines, but it's widely accepted that, regardless of her personal beliefs, she did align with organizations that were explicitly based on white supremacy and paternalistic ideals of the time that worked directly towards undermining reproductive freedom and caused irreparable damage to the health and lives of generations of Black people, Latino people, Indigenous people, immigrants, people with disabilities, people with low incomes, and many others. Planned Parenthood has publicly denounced Sanger's belief in eugenics and has chosen to be transparent about her problematic behavior in or to better serve their communities now.
While Sanger was a revolutionary for women's health, she was also a product of her time and did not apply her progressive thinking towards racial issues. I do not condone or support Sanger's ideals regarding eugenics or her methods of gaining support and legitimacy, but I do support Planned Parenthood as a company. If we attempted to withdraw our support from every organization that had history condoning ideals we don't support today, our scope would be incredibly limited.
I am SO sorry for the long post, but information is important to come to your own educated conclusion. I am incredibly impressed if you've read all the way to the end.
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You know, at this point in current DC books is there ANYTHING that Cass actually gains as a character in a story from being part of Batfamily?
Her friendships have been erased (Tim) or twisted to ensure she is always seen as lessen and inferior to other partner (Steph, Duke). 
No one treats her as part of the family but something between an unpaid intern, creepy fangirl that is allowed to be here out of pity and Steph’s friend with personality of “responsible (read: boring) Asian” stereotype. She is certainly NOT treated as Bruce’s daughter.
Her entire origin and core motivation to be a hero have been mangled to erase her intolerance for killing because othertwise she could not coexist in one “team” with Jason, Kate, Damian and fucking Ghostmaker. Instead they made her entire origin and motivation revovle around Harper because they wanted Cass in Batfam and nothing beyond it. If you need to take away core aspect of a character to make them fit a team maybe that character should not be on a team?
Fuck, the whole REASON why she ever took on the bat symbol, which was because Batman was literally only person on the planet with as much hatred for killing as her, is gone. Batman who inspired Cass to become a hero was a man who was going to fire her on suspicion she may consider killing an option on the table, a man who would attack Huntress on sight because she kills people. Now? His no killing rule applies to him alone unless Harley Quinn writers wants to stirr up drama in her book. This is no longer Batman who would inspire Cass.
Relationship she had with Barbara is gone, Babs too treats Cass at best as unpaid intern she needs to boss around.
Cass is no longer a hero. She has no desire to save lives because that would overshadow Barbara. She is there because Babsgirl needs cheerleaders and that’s it.
Desire to be Batman? Gone. Not even recognized as a runner up by anyone, less alone Bruce.
Her skills are nerfed to the point she can no longer fight her way out of wet paper bag, losing to literally every character she fights with because writing her properly could derail the edgy “plots” and overshadow white people. Making her lose every fight makes, in mind of bad writers, the baddies look strong. In reality it makes her look weak and incompetent. And no, beating mooks doesn’t count, anyone in ficiton can beat hordes of ninjas, there is an entire tope about it. Alfred the cat could replace her in League of Shadows and nothing would change, ninjas would die like flies because that’s what ninjas in comics do.
Also, Tynion made Cass a killer, destroying core concept of her character even futher. So her compassion is gone too, as one does not work with the other, not for Cass.
Her disability is gone too because we needed to make her speak perfect english to make popculture references and read text messages.
Her being best martial artist? Informed ability with nothing to back it up at this point. Her being omitted from Lazarus Tournament (thus sending a message she was deemed not worthy to participate) while Damian was admitted also gives him more legitimacy than she has in current canon.
There is literally nothing she gains from being in the Batfamily. As bad as Teen titans books have been I think at least one of them would let her shine more than she was allowed to in any book since 2015 except Outsiders. Then again I wonder if damage done to her to push rest of the Batfamily isn’t so extensive it may be beyond fixing. At this point I fear killing her off may be more merciful than further debasement for sake of white people.
I mean, what DOES she gets from being in Batfamily at this point? Being infantilized for stupid groupchat jokes? being a backgroud prop to Steph and Barbara and maybe Ryan? Endless promises a Batgirls book that is clearly NOT happenning andan idea a book like this is coming may have been made up by fans altogether? Slowly turning into racist stereotype of a meek, submissive doormat that we have seen in Future State, an event that was supposed to show us what is DC’s “endgame” plan for all their characters and in which only Shazam and Wally West got more fucked over? Being in the background of group shots with white people or some shallow “family” moments? Gove me something.
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(pt 1) i really enjoy all your atla analyses & you've done a great job breaking down the usual arguments re how eip shows that kataang shouldn't have happened. i'm curious about your take on one specific argument that i just saw today, in an analysis of the show by a zker that was otherwise quite good and respectful (i know you've already talked about eip a lot, so no problem if you don't feel like rehashing). the premise: aang didn't just pressure katara in eip, he threatened her.
(pt 2) they point to when katara joins aang & asks if he’s alright: “aang: no, i’m not! i hate this play! katara: i know it’s upsetting, but it sounds like you’re overreacting. aang: overreacting? if i hadn’t blocked my chakra, i’d probably be in the avatar state right now!” the suggestion is he’s threatening her when he says ‘i’d probably be in the avatar state right now’ to describe his anger. i think this take exaggerates and oversimplifies it, but interested in your thoughts on it.
Hello my friend!! It is true I am Old inside and don’t like rehashing dhdlksjslks BUT your comments on my posts are always incredibly kind and insightful so I am more than willing to do a bit of rehashing for you 🥰 Besides! I’ve seen this general take before a few times and it’s always irked me for the exact reason you point out - it simultaneously exaggerates and oversimplifies the situation (and honestly that’s an impressive duality since it’s seemingly contradictory, so hats off to them lmaooo) - and now is as good a time as any to address it. So, for starters, let’s go ahead and get the excerpt they love to focus on so much:
Cut to Aang standing alone on a balcony. Katara enters and walks up to him.
Katara: Are you all right?
Aang: [Angered.] No, I’m not! I hate this play! [Yanks his hat off and throws it on the ground.]
Katara: I know it’s upsetting, but it sounds like you’re overreacting.
Aang: Overreacting? If I hadn’t blocked my chakra, I’d probably be in the Avatar State right now!
Here’s the thing about so-called analyses of this excerpt: in a manner extremely convenient to the poster, they never seek to contextualize this moment. (I mean, to do so would deplatform their entire “argument” - perhaps that’s why they avoid performing a full analysis?) So let’s avoid that pitfall from the start.
Firstly, below are some links to related posts; I’m going to do my best to summarize the most relevant parts, but for anyone who desires greater detail, I gotchu 😤
This post explains why EIP (the play, lol) is imperialist propaganda and is intended to belittle the entire Gaang.
This post explains how Aang never acted “entitled” to Katara’s affections, particularly in regard to EIP.
This post breaks down the infamous EIP kiss like Snopes Fact Checker, covering common misconceptions, important perspectives to consider, etc.
Alright. With that out the way, it’s time for some context.
Aang and Katara have this conversation on the balcony after watching 95% of “The Boy in the Iceberg,” a play chock-full of Fire Nation propaganda that demeans the entire Gaang in order to prop up the Fire Nation as superior (hence why the play ends with Ozai’s victory). Here is my general breakdown of Aang and Katara’s treatment in particular from a previous post:
- katara, an indigenous woman, is highly sexualized and portrayed as overly dramatic and tearful, because the fire nation objectifies women not of their own people and views them as less intelligent and less emotionally stable
- aang, the avatar, the sole survivor of the fire nation’s genocide of the air nomads who is incredibly in-touch with his spirituality and femininity, is portrayed as an overly-airy and immature woman. the fire nation portrays him with a female actor to demean him (like, that’s classic imperialistic propagandist tactics) and furthermore writing his character as a childish airhead reinforces the fire nation sentiment that the air nomads were weak, foolish people who did not deserve to exist in their world
In other words, these kids have just watched almost an entire play that preys upon their insecurities and depicts them using racist and sexist stereotypes about their respective nations. It is completely understandable that tensions might run a little high and that their interactions would not be as balanced as usual (Katara and Aang have a great track record of communicating well with each other, as it happens!).
So we have to keep that in mind when examining the aforementioned excerpt. But there are other factors to consider, too! Namely: they are kids. Children. Teens. Aang is 12, Katara is 14.
If we want to be scientific, a person’s brain doesn’t finish developing until they are 25, lmao, and the preteen/teen years are when the prefrontal cortex that controls “rationality,” “judgement,” “forethought,” etc. is still developing. This doesn’t mean Aang and Katara are irrational and make poor decisions 24/7 (obviously not), but it does mean that in an intense, highly emotional situation, like after watching a play that intentionally demeans them and depicts them as inferior, they are more likely to overreact, more likely to be emotional, and more likely to make mistakes. Like, I’m serious, lol. “Teens process information with the amygdala.” That’s part of the brain that helps control emotions! It’s why teens sometimes struggle to articulate what we’re thinking, especially in situations that require instinct/impulse and quick decisions, because we’re really feeling whenever we make those choices. Acting more on emotion. Our brains simply haven’t finished developing the decision-making parts, lmao.
In sum: Aang and Katara are both kids, not adults, and should be interpreted as such. This doesn’t negate their intelligence, because they are both incredibly smart and Aang is arguably the wisest of the Gaang, but they are human. Young humans. They have emotions, and we should not be so cruel as to assume they’d never act on them.
So taking that all together, we can now acknowledge the high stress Aang and Katara are under, understand why they might be upset (*cough* imperialist propaganda is hurtful *cough*), and examine how their youth might play into their emotional reactions. And funny thing - all analyses that come to the conclusion of Aang “threatening” Katara here do not usually bother with this context. I can’t imagine why!
And you know what, let’s add one more piece of context: Sokka states that Aang left the theater “like, ten minutes ago,” which is what cues Katara to go look for him on the balcony. The reason I mention this line is because to me, it suggests Aang knew he was more worked up than usual! He chose to separate himself from his friends so he could process his frustration! He did not take his anger at the play out on them; instead, he purposefully took time and space to be alone.
With that in mind, I don’t understand at all how Aang’s Avatar state quote could be interpreted as a threat? Canonly, Aang is someone who was aware enough of his frustration to separate himself from the others - yet the logical next step is him threatening Katara as a result? He knew his intense emotions were because of the play (which he says himself), so the logical conclusion is that he then pinned the fault on Katara? What?? Sorry, that interpretation has no textual basis, lmao. But I digress!
Aang tells Katara, “If I hadn’t blocked my chakra, I’d probably be in the Avatar State right now!” As you said, this is the line people point to in an attempt to justify their (baseless) conclusion that Aang is “threatening” Katara. So let’s bring in the two key pieces of context: imperialist propaganda and age. Given that Aang is 12, and given that Aang has just watched almost a full play that demeans him and everything his people stood for (and let’s not forget it also mocks his and Katara’s love for each other)…
His reaction is understandable. An exaggeration and needlessly dramatic, but understandable. He feels vulnerable and insecure and Aang is human. He is human and flawed and he overreacts here and I love that A:TLA shows how even our heroes, even people who are truly good at heart and in soul, can get overly upset (especially given the aforementioned circumstances!). Would Aang actually be in the Avatar state at that moment, had it been possible? Of course not! He’s young and he’s hurt and as such he says something dramatic to convey his anxieties and frustrations. The line is not meant to be taken literally, and seeing people do so despite all the factors that should be taken into consideration when analyzing it… Cue a long, tired sigh from me and so many other A:TLA fans.
And to be honest? I cannot fathom how people watch this episode and come to the conclusion that Aang is “threatening” Katara. To me, this episode - besides being a recap episode - is one that humanizes our cast even further. Aang snaps at Katara, kisses her when he shouldn’t (which the story appropriately treats as wrong). Katara pushes down her true feelings and retreats into herself, afraid to start a relationship with the boy she loves because she’s already lost him once before and can’t bear to do so again. Zuko further confronts the hurt he’s enacted upon others, especially upon Iroh. Toph practices being vulnerable and accepting vulnerability from others by conversing with Zuko. Sokka witnesses how others have erased his contributions and labelled him as nothing more than the token nonbender in the group. Even Suki learns that she is not the only person who holds a place in Sokka’s heart and that she can never replace what he has lost.
To watch this episode where our heroes must come to terms with how the Fire Nation deems them inherently inferior, with how they have more fights to overcome in the future with the Fire Nation than a single war, and to come to the conclusion that… that what, Aang is abusive? A monster? Irredeemable? That he would threaten his best friend, someone he loves in every way?
Wow. That says more than enough about the viewer, doesn’t it?
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hiraethbots · 4 years ago
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𝕳𝖎𝖗𝖆𝖊𝖙𝖍
(𝙣). 𝙖 𝙝𝙤𝙢𝙚𝙨𝙞𝙘𝙠𝙣𝙚𝙨𝙨 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙖 𝙝𝙤𝙢𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙬𝙝𝙞𝙘𝙝 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙘𝙖𝙣𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙧𝙚𝙩𝙪𝙧𝙣, 𝙖 𝙝𝙤𝙢𝙚 𝙬𝙝𝙞𝙘𝙝 𝙢𝙖𝙮𝙗𝙚 𝙣𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧 𝙬𝙖𝙨; 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙣𝙤𝙨𝙩𝙖𝙡𝙜𝙞𝙖, 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙮𝙚𝙖𝙧𝙣𝙞𝙣𝙜, 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙜𝙧𝙞𝙚𝙛 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙤𝙨𝙩 𝙤𝙛 𝙥𝙡𝙖𝙘𝙚𝙨 𝙤𝙛 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙥𝙖𝙨𝙩
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𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐟𝐢𝐥𝐞𝐬
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𝐃𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐢𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐧𝐠 | 𝐖𝐢𝐧𝐰𝐢𝐧
he / him 28 Oct 1997
24 y o Bi / Taken
was @/detectivexsicheng
most of the time very blunt
pretty straightforward but can talk a lot when he wants to (read: nags and complains when annoyed and stressed)
he's a pretty simple man, not one for anything too extravagant and over the top
one thing he can't resist however is : food
oh and boba milk tea
has a good sense of justice, would do anything to protect people
is taken by @seventeen-chatbot's Mingyu
belongs to Seoul Police Agency's Golden Time Team
faced the loss of his mother at a young age
aeri is his sister figure, touch her and you die
he's awkward at times but get to know him and he'll be a soft little squishy
talks like this tags are sicheng.exe
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𝐇𝐚𝐧 𝐀𝐞𝐫𝐢
she / her 9 June 1997
24 y o bi / crushing
face claim is @dull_ouuo on instagram
tsundere tsundere tsundere
she's called ice princess for a reason
but that's just because of the environment she was raised in
call her cute or flirt and you run the risk of either getting tazed or given a sick ass smackdown
she's weak for cute things and anything matcha flavoured though-- you didn't hear this from me
belongs to Seoul Police Agency's Violent Crimes Unit but occasionally works with the Golden Time Team
is currently single but crushing on someone
lost both her parents at age 6
she's pretty aloof and cold to strangers
but get past that tough shell of hers and you'll find a warm and sensitive person
that just wants love she rarely tastes
sicheng is her brother figure, touch him and you die
talks like this tags are aeri.exe
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𝐘𝐨𝐨𝐧 𝐉𝐞𝐨𝐧𝐠𝐡𝐚𝐧
he / him 4 October 1995
26 y o bi / taken~
a little shit, a great detective and a handsome dude rolled into one
belongs to Incheon Police Agency's Violent Crimes Unit, working with the Seoul Golden Time Team to catch a serial killer
is oftentimes very laid-back but when work calls he shifts personas
expect to find him serious and merciless towards most criminals
to others however, we call him a corrupt cop-- pretty hypocritical I know
will strike deals and help bad people if he deems it helpful to himself and his loved ones
happily taken by his beloved dancer, his kitten @m00n-mia-cb
lost his mom at 19, his dad was sentenced to lifetime in jail
considers joshua and seungcheol his family
every superior at his station hates him cause he never follows their orders yet still manages to solve his cases
seems uncaring but mess with those he cares for and you're in for a painful journey
talks like this tags are jeonghan.exe
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𝐊𝐢𝐦 𝐒𝐞𝐨𝐤𝐰𝐨𝐨 | 𝐑𝐨𝐰𝐨𝐨𝐧
he / him 7 August 1996
25 y o bi / interested
ex hacker and supreme lord of the keyboard
got picked up by sicheng and aeri when they assembled the Golden Time Team
belongs to Seoul Police Agency's Golden Time Team
he's still new to the police life but doing his best to be useful
cheery and positive, acting as happy virus
is very proud of his abilities, utilizes them to the max
may even pull you an illegal favor once in a while
his internet name is rowoon though he also goes by @lordglitchwoon
is currently single but interested in someone
talks like this tags are rowoon.exe
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𝐂𝐡𝐨𝐢 𝐒𝐞𝐮𝐧𝐠𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐨𝐥 | 𝐒. 𝐂𝐨𝐮𝐩𝐬
he / him 8 August 1995
26 y o bi / sNATCHED
leader of the Golden Ravens, a mafia group mainly based in Incheon
confident and level-headed, has a steady rack of patience so he isn't easily pissed off
but if you make him angry you're gonna regret that pretty quickly
he's sadistic and ruthless once needed to be and won't hesitate to get rid of anything or anyone to get his way
best friends with jeonghan and joshua, considers them family
has been boxed up and shipped to two lucky people 👀
does get help from jeonghan and joshua a lot, indebted to jeonghan for saving him back when they were younger and joshua always provided a safe shelter for him and his members
workaholic™ it's gonna be tough to catch him unoccupied or swamped with work but he can make time for those he deems worthy of it
talks like this tags are cheol.exe
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𝐇𝐨𝐧𝐠 𝐉𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐨 | 𝐉𝐨𝐬𝐡𝐮𝐚
he / him 31 December 1995
26 y o bi / simping crushing
was @/tattooartistjoshua
is a tattoo artist and stressed arts major college student
owns a tattoo parlor called De Lune at downtown Seoul, near the border that stretches into Incheon
don't be fooled by his multitudes of piercings, his tattoos, his leather jacket or his muscled arms
this bunny-faced man is nothing if not a softie
is currently single but is crushing very hard
gets dragged into jeonghan and seungcheol's shit most of the time, acting as middle ground for both
is the official tattoist for the Golden Ravens, being the only person to etch their insignia on as part of initiation process
he's a kind hearted and warm person, always being around to help no matter what the occasion
but despite his peaceful and docile nature he also has a mild inferiority complex due to his past
considers jeonghan and seungcheol his family, cross them and no matter how patient and calm joshua is he's shoving his tattoo gun's needle up your ass
talks like this tags are shua.exe
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𝘼𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣 𝙋𝙤𝙨𝙩 . . . under construction
𝙎𝙩𝙖𝙩𝙪𝙨 . . . under construction
✒️: @yanlee @iron-winwin @sydney-oc @adonis-jeonghan og rowoon (?) @/demon-seungcheol @/ceo-joshua
🏷️ : @1900s-cb @yvespunk @shin-haneul @purge-bots @militar-donghyun @black-x-swan-x-jisoo @yourchungha @vampiremomo @soft-magicxyujin @midari-jieun @ddlc-blackpink @yourhayoung @parkjiwoncb @spidermanxchan @thewolfpack-cb @princess-yeji @ateez-treasure9au-chatbot @urboys @androidbots @softie-yanan @soonyoungii @model-lucy @silverypurple-rosedlions @mafia-chae @badlands-ryujin @carnival-skteez @skz-bot @darkfaeskz @hernameisangel-oc @yan-svt @horrorlegends-cb @hbxchaewon @yourdaddychan @thewitcherhhj @daenerysolar @hybriddencb @spy-johnjsuh @witchy-ryu @doll-hyunjin @svtbrokenteam-cb @incubus-hwa @rentaboy-svt @influencerxcesia-oc [DM to be +/-]
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runabout-river · 3 years ago
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It's the Jet is secretly a Firebender AU but when Katara has him pinned to the tree with ice and calls him a monster he snaps, frees himself with his fire and starts accusing her of aiding the enemy, ALL OF THEM, and blaming their victims for the abuse they had to suffer through.
Jet starts throwing fire at her but not really to attack, just to show her his anger and all the things that are wrong with him and the world. He should have grown up in a happy Earth Kingdom family in a happy community but that was nearly an impossibility for him because the man who should have been his father was NOT and he didn't come about because his mother cheated on her loving husband.
And everybody knew about his dark conception, so even despite his parents efforts he always felt wrong about himself, always felt the disdain of the other townspeople directed at him. He was made to feel bad, to feel inferior and as a burden to the community. Everything that was wrong in society and every atrocity that was done in the name of the Fire Nation culminated in HIM.
And all of that was before they even knew he was a firebender.
His parents always taught him that the Fire Nation was the enemy but it weren't Fire Nation soldiers who attacked, belittled, abused and tormented him and his parents when he was little. So what if an Earth Kingdom town had to be sacrificed to free the land of the Fire Nation? They are collaborators! They refused the help the Freedom Fighters offered them despite all the things they did for them, for the freedom of the town, for nearly two years.
Katara feels his pain but she doesn't let it sway her from what she knows is right. He was willing to kill innocents and he is poisoning the minds of his Freedom Fighters, to which Jet has nothing to say at first than just to laugh.
Aang is there and Sokka comes back to tell everyone how the town and it's citizens were saved by him. Jet gets angry at him because how dare he just appear out of nowhere and sabotage his resistance efforts! Where does he think he gets the right to do that? He, who doesn't even fight in this war!?
Sokka has his arguments ready and he is sure that the other Freedom Fighters will side with him when they realize just how deranged Jet's plan and reasoning for his actions are...
But they are not on his side. At all.
Sokka tries to understand. He can't. Why where they all just so ready to sacrifice a town full of their own countrymen? "Are they," Pipsqueak asks. "The Fire Nation is so brutal and overwhelming that you can't just half ass a response to them," Smellerbea adds.
"The Earth Kingdom is sometimes just as bad as the Fire Nation," comes from Snears and for the first time Katara realizes... "You are like Jet!" and it isn't just Snears with the stony expression that gazes in her direction, nearly every Freedom Fighter present there is looking like that... Her, Aang's and Sokka's hearts just fall to the bottom of their stomachs.
If they thought, Jet starts to say, that him being a firebender is news to his crew, than they just have no idea how much suffering they share with each other because if there is one group of people as universally hated by both Fire and Earth...
It's War Children.
Nobody wants the Fire and Earth bastards. The Nation doesn't want them because they dirty the Fire blood. The Kingdom doesn't want them because they represent their utter failure at fighting against the enemy and how much rape and pillage they had to endure.
And nearly all of his Freedom Fighters had it worse than Jet ever had.
Snears was left with huge scars all over his body from his Earth family. At the start of winter when he was ten they just left him on the streets while traveling and they explicitly told him to never come back to them again or they would do worse things to him. The Freedom Fighters were the first community who ever embraced him with open arms.
Pipsqueak was held in a cage, just skin and bones, and forced to work day in and day out carving wood in a former refugee camp now ruled by Earth soldiers, till Jet one night broke his cage and his chains and physically pulled him out of there.
Longshot was in a Fire training camp for delinquent and "mixed" children after his mother sold him there at a young age. Those camps were not known for treating the children well and punishments and deaths were common. He started speaking less and less over the years and he didn't, couldn't, make any friends at all... till they threw a young Earth Kingdom firebender in there as well who became Longshot's first and only friend for years and later became his leader.
Smellerbea was forced to be a servant to a wealthy Fire family in the colonies, just like her parents before her. One day she attacked one their children in self defense and the injury inflicted by her was deemed so severe that they put her on death row despite being only 13. When she needed it the most it wasn't the Earth Kingdom army who came to her rescue but children like her.
And all those tragic stories only ever happened if the newborn infants weren't immediately thrown into a river, buried under earth or left in a forest like the Duke when he was little.
The firebending bastards of course were treated in an extra special way by the Earth Kingdom populace, this special way most often included a bath out of which the children didn't come out again. 'The child accidentally drowned' became code for 'they were a firebender' in the border regions of the Earth Kingdom and the Fire Nation colonies. If the parents were unwilling to do it themselves then there were always helpful family members or neighbors there to lend a hand.
Even when the parents didn't want any help.
"The Fire Nation only has one law in regards to the bastards they have produced in the last 100 years, and that's that any firebender of earth blood has to attend their special schools and become a soldier or they get executed if they refuse."
"And so the town I grew up in wanted me dead immediately or at least out of there after they found out I was a firebender. My parents refused both and you know what?" Jet's smile isn't the least bit friendly, it's also sad and tragic to look at but Jet is not there to inspire pity, he is there to air out his anger against the world and to justify is extreme actions against the Fire Nation.
"The townspeople, they were not wrong! It was dangerous to have a firebender child in their midst because the Fire Nation would have an excuse to come to town and extract that child - to the detriment of the town - and that's exactly what happened! They burned everything! Just to get to me!"
The last part was screamed at the Gaang, but Jet had mostly shifted his attention from Katara and Sokka to Aang at that point and for the first time he directly addresses the Avatar in front of him: "Where were you this entire time!? How could you let all of this happen the last 100 years? And why are you here right now fighting against me instead of the Fire Nation soldiers down at that camp?!"
There is not much of an answer Aang could give, while Sokka tries to make them see just how far out of reason their attack on the town was. And for the first time Jet gives in and admits that maybe it was too extreme, but he does not give in about being somewhat justified.
"If by some miracle you all manage to defeat the Fire Lord and the Fire Nation, then it's going to be all good for you. But for us!" he swings his arms around the forest to all the assembled Fire Fighters around them: "It will be just a small victory to be celebrated before the Earth army starts marching down this forest to attack us and drive us away from their land because we don't belong to them despite fighting the same fight with them!"
Not long after all the things that needed to be said were out in the open, the Gaang left the forest and Jet behind. "It won't be like Jet said. We'll make sure of it." Katara promises and both Aang and Sokka agree though they are all low on spirits at the moment.
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x0401x · 4 years ago
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Given Movie: Anime Eiga Interview
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The adult trio of “Given”, Nakazawa Masatomo, Eguchi Takuya and Asanuma Shintarou – finding out about each other’s appeal through proffering a deep love.
The sequel to the TV series that adapted Ms. Kizu Natsuki’s popular BL manga into an anime came in the form of “Given the Movie” and made its appearance in the big screen. Along with sensible expressions of emotion, this series depicts the circumstances of youthful love connected by music, capturing the hearts of the viewers. The movie portrays the “bitter and passionate love” between the band’s “adult members”, Haruki and Akihiko, as well as Akihiko and his ex-boyfriend, the genius violinist Murata Ugetsu, whom he continues to live with even after breaking up. Hence, this time, we have hit up Nakazawa Masatomo, the voice of Haruki, Eguchi Takuya, the voice of Kaji Akihiko, and Asanuma Shintarou, the voice of Ugetsu. What kind of appeal did they sense from one another after co-acting in roles where they had to proffer intense love? We had each of them discuss their thoughts.
Discovering the charm of the characters anew in a movie where the feelings of each accelerate.
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——The movie is about the romance between Haruki, Akihiko and Ugetsu. The thoughts that they had been concealing are exposed, so what were your impressions when you read the script?
Nakazawa: In the TV series, Haruki, the character I play, was thinking about “wanting the band to do well” and “what he should do for the band’s sake”, being a “sideline support” for Mafuyu and Ritsuka, together with Akihiko. Haruki and Akihiko are said to be part of the “adult group”, but the two of them have their own ways of thinking - Akihiko is the type that aims for good things by taking action using a detonator. On the other hand, Haruki is always calmly concerning himself with everyone, so that they can do things freely. Both of them listened to Mafuyu’s singing voice, were influenced by it and suffered changes, so I felt from the script that I could get a glimpse at these changes. Regarding Haruki, he started feeling his own loneliness more strongly, and while watching Mafuyu display his musical talent more and more, he also had a complex about being just an ordinary person who liked music a little bit. I felt like we were able to see what Haruki was carrying under the surface.
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——Were there any points where you felt the appeal of Haruki and Akihiko all over again?
Nakazawa: There were. Haruki never tells Akihiko that he likes him and does his best to hide it. It’s totally obvious, though... (laughs). Through Haruki, I felt that there are things you convey not with words but with feelings, and on the other hand, there are things that can finally be conveyed when you put them into words.
——Eguchi-san plays the role of Akihiko. Please tell us your impressions of the script.
Eguchi: I had read the original work, so I was looking forward to seeing the hearts of everyone from the “adult group” being moved and them putting an end to things. When I read the script, this is quite obvious, but I had many lines (laughs). Akihiko shows in it a part of himself that he never had until then, so destroying something like a sculpture of Akihiko that the TV series had warmed up was necessary work. Moreover, it was the kind of scrip that allowed for all kinds of fun, such as how long the monologues and narrations should be, so I felt a strong sense of compensation from it. During the recordings, I first tried throwing in what I had come up with. The team makes you want to create something together with them, so I felt like making up my mind and challenging myself. I was very happy to be able to take on the challenge.
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——When you threw it in, were you able to see a new side to Akihiko’s appeal?
Eguchi: “So he was THAT compassionate?!” was what I thought. Akihiko is always cool, so I wondered when his emotions would take a swing, but I think this was a sign that he was afraid of “changing the present”. In the movie, I had to carry out the job of Akihiko properly facing all sorts of things and doing a retake on his true feelings. He gave off more of an adult impression until that point, so I think I got to see a more realistic, young part of him.
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——Asanuma-san plays the role of Ugetsu, who continues living with Akihiko after breaking up.
Asanuma: There were few episodes in the TV series where Ugetsu showed up, but even in them, there are crucial scenes in which you can get a glimpse that “Ugetsu is this kind of person”. It’s exactly because he is a genius that he acts indifferent about anything other than music, gets fawned on in a genius-like way that makes people think, “If he says so, then there’s no helping it”, and has great interest in people like Mafuyu, whom he feels sympathy for. There’s a scene in the movie where Ugetsu and Mafuyu meet for the first time, and when I read the script, I felt that “Ugetsu approached Mafuyu with honest feelings”. It’s because he has sympathy for Mafuyu that he ends up telling him things that he can’t say to Akihiko face-to-face, such as “I love Akihiko to death”, and shows a side of himself that he usually doesn’t show to other people. It seems he speaks out his feelings when he’s with Mafuyu for some reason, which made me wonder if it isn’t Mafuyu who has the power to make people act like that.
——Ugetsu has a mysterious charm as a character. Was there anything you deemed as important when performing him?
Asanuma: It was my first time taking part in a BL show, but I felt that “Given” is a series that portrays emotions very delicately, down to the details. When performing, it’s exactly because the depictions of emotions are detailed that I make sure not to be “too theatrical”.
Love becomes more complicated as you grow older?
——In the TV series, we were able to see Mafuyu and Ritsuka’s high schooler-like romance, yet the movie is about an “adult love”, where they are “going through unfulfilling and agonizing situations, but no matter what, they like each other”. Was there anything you felt seeing their love?
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Asanuma: There are things that we end up complicating precisely because we have accumulated experiences as adults. It’s because we know about all sorts of things that we don’t want to get in the other’s way and feelings of inferiority towards the other are born. When you’re a child, you don’t think much about things such as “pulling away because you think too much about the other person”, for example. There are many things we have to face when we become adults, so we might turn the feeling of “romantic love” around in complicated ways.
Nakazawa: I think “being able to break up once and for all” is important in adult romance as well. Not clashing with each other like, “I can’t do this with you anymore!” and parting ways, but instead ending it with, “If that’s how it is, it might be better for us not to be together anymore” after learning about each other’s circumstances is also a form of love. I think that reflecting about not just the feeling of “love”, but also about what you should do to make the “we can’t be together anymore” that lies ahead into a reality is what adult romance is.
Asanuma: They’re called the “adult group”, but they’re not adults yet. Even I, who am in my 40’s, have yet to come across anything like an “unconditional love”...
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Eguchi: I believe this is valid for all kinds of romantic love, but I think it’s about being together with someone because you find that person to be an “irreplaceable existence”. And it’s because they’re irreplaceable that going out with them isn’t the goal, and the couple has to properly face one another. Also, when I looked at their romance, I felt it’s precisely because they like and are close to each other that there are words between them that they can’t say. They might have had a different relationship if they had conveyed those words, but there are words that can’t be conveyed exactly because this possibility exists. I think humans are extremely complex.
“Eguchi-kun is sharp!” – A casting that fit perfectly.
——What kind of appeal did you feel in each other’s acting and personalities through “Given”?
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Nakazawa: The way that Asanuma-san bears a “quiet intensity” when playing as Ugetsu is very charming.
Asanuma: For real!?
Eguchi: And you’re also too good at putting on the air of a genius!
Asanuma: It’s only putting on, though. I have to make sure not to take it off too soon (laughs).
Eguchi: It had me thinking, “The way he envelops himself in the air of a genius is just genius!” Asanuma-san can push and pull splendidly. I was thinking, “He’s so awesome” when I watched it.
Asanuma: There are times when I tend to explain things with my voice no matter what. Before, in a different work, the sound director told me, “The animation is already doing the explanation, so you don’t have to try to explain with your voice so much.” In works like this one, where the subtleties of the characters’ hearts are so detailed, I think it’s even more important to bear in mind “not being too theatrical”, without deeming it as an exception just because it’s a BL, but instead seeing it as a love pattern that could happen anywhere and performing naturally.
——What is your impression of Nakazawa-san?
Asanuma: Nakazawa-san is tolerance incarnate! He can be no one but Haruki.
Eguchi: That’s right. He gives off a “mom” vibe (laughs). He’s like that during the recordings too; Nakazawa-san himself is a very soft person.
Asanuma: And although he may disagree, “looking troubled” suits him.
Nakazawa: I disagree!
All three: (Burst into laughter).
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Asanuma: Since being troubled suits you, it feels like people gather around you, thinking that they “want to try and give you trouble” without any ill intent.
Nakazawa: That rings a bell (laughs). Indeed, I myself think that I have a Haruki-like side too. I also have a side that accepts basically anyone and any kind of comment... As for Eguchi-kun, if nothing else, he’s sharp! In terms of voice quality, his tone is low-pitched and solid, so the acting that he brings out is extremely sharp. There’s a fineness to it where it acts as a detonator, especially in “Given”, as if it will set fire, to his heart’s contentment, to anything that seems inflammable. He pulls off an acting that has an explosiveness to it, as he takes ahold of the important points while performing in a natural manner, so I have a lot of trust in him.
Asanuma: Eguchi-kun gives off a sense of broad-mindedness and security. Not because his body is big, though (laughs). I feel that he’s something like an emotional bodyguard. It was my first time in a BL series, but when I heard that Eguchi-kun would be the other party, I vaguely thought that “everything will go well”.
Eguchi: Thank you so much!
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