#In that sense it’s like i dont know how there could be a workable solution to destroying zionism as an ideology

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re lrb a huge portion of the zionist propaganda i have personally seen posted like on facebook and insta and stuff is concentrated very specifically on denying the concept of the innocent palestinian civilian. mostly just trying to manufacturing consent for the death of children. videos will be like “look at these palestinian 6 year olds saying how much they hate jews the entire population has been sadly brainwashed irreparably nothing to be done.” or that Fucking golda meir quote thats like “maybe we’ll forgive The Arabs for killing our sons but it’ll be harder to forgive them for ~forcing us to kill their sons~”. or stuff about how they’re Forced to bomb hospitals and schools human shields etc. most entrenched zionists really are not hemming and hawwing about history most of the time… They dont care that they’re killing innocent people whatsoever like it doesnt convince them because they just dont care. They consider it utterly acceptable in their moral calculus. i dont even think most of the time it’s that they dont see palestinians as people, they might, they see them as people deserving of death

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you've talked before about how the watchers are going to go extinct at some point in the future due to being competed out of their ecological niche by the listeners. which got me thinking. couldn't... something that might prevent that... be... whatever doc's machine is going to be? LIKE. don't get me wrong that would not be a good or workable idea for many, MANY reasons on ALL sides here. it's not like the continued existence of the watchers as a race is even something that literally any character in the fic, including and especially grian, even actually wants, like grian would be jumping for joy if you walked up to him and told him the watchers are gonna go extinct. but like. it's coming to me that the eventual endpoint of the fic is that grian's food issues are taken care of and he will be secure and well-fed for the foreseeable future, while the rest of the watchers as a society are doomed to slow extinction via starvation. which just. idk. makes me feel stuff.

Tbh i also feel things about this-- theres a very grim undertone to the whole au when you really look at it beyond Grian's experiences. It is, i think, at its core a quietly bleak concept, and i dont blame you for having some weird feelings about it. I dont necessarily set out to make those canon ofc, but sometimes the worldbuilding leads to these kind of conclusions, and its definitely very gut-wrenching when you really think about it

Ideally, yes, Doc's machine would be able to feed the Watchers-- though whether or not they'd accept that solution is a different story. I think the best way i can give some insight on this is via an analogy; think of, lets say....... livestock. You're a keeper of livestock, and one day one of your cows comes up to you and offers you a limitless supply of raw potatoes in exchange for not eating cows anymore. And like-- you could!! You could do that!!! Potatoes are nutritionally capable of supporting the vast majority of your needs, food-wise, but theyre just. Raw potatoes. They taste bad and they're ultimately very boring to eat day after day. And maybe if you're looking to turn vegan, you'd take this offer in less than a heartbeat. But your average person is not gonna wanna give up dairy or steak, or their livelihood. Its kinda like that-- the Players are a food source for Watchers, and barring that, a cradle for Watcher larvae.

I think ultimately Grian wouldnt like. Be jumping for joy at the concept of the Watchers going extinct-- i think his reaction would be far more complicated, marked by both compassion (he's starved-- he knows how terrible it is) and fear (they are the main source of his trauma). Like i just generally think his feelings on the matter boil down to "i hope i never have to see them again, they can go exist over there as far away from me as possible" if that makes sense. But i wouldnt say he'd be cheering for their deaths-- just that once its clear Listeners are competing them out, it'd be a foregone conclusion to him. A very objectively sad but inescapable inevitability :(

[yurionicebigbang]

okay heres that compromise i promised on dealing with writer overflow

ill try to make this short and sweet, but pls do let me know if im unclear bc im still pretty sick and what makes sense to me might not make sense to, like, a non-febrile person =‘)

once again, pls read carefully, theres a lot to take in

● heres a walkthrough of what im thinking:

i will post a form for participants who dont mind letting a second writer create based off the idea proposed by the artist. this form will be short and sweet and completely optional, likely just url and artist number if it applies, and will be available while im abroad between march 10 and march 19.

any artist/writer pairs that happen to be in agreement will be posted in a second claims document. this will be for a lightning round, probably only open for a week or less, for second writers, after i get back from europe.

if there are still writers leftover after that, they will then be relegated to first-choice pinch-hitter, and there will probably be a third claims doc set up for that so i can keep everything nice and neat. 

the last two claims rounds will happen in the background; the main claims pairings will already be confirmed and can get to work.

● here are some caveats to consider:

i mentioned in an earlier post that its unfair to force artists to take on a second writer, and its unfair to force writers to share if they dont want to esp after they claimed their artist fair and square (yes i know, timezones and all that, but no matter what timezone i post in someone is going to be upset). in order for this to work, artist/writer pairings both need to agree to allowing a second writer to create based on the story provided by the artist. the form is the solution i chose bc it can happen right away without confirming the artist/writer pairings, and its smth i can keep referring to (rather than smth like asks or messages, which can get lost....im a big fan of forms lol). >>an example of what i mean by this is such: artist 111 and katsukifatale1 are both okay with taking a second writer, and in the main claiming round they end up confirmed as a pair. they end up on the second round claim doc. artist 222 and katsukifatale2 end up confirmed as a pair, but only one of them filled out the form accepting a second writer, so they do not end up on the second round claim doc.

the writers who claim secondary will be secondary -as in, the artist/writer pairings in the current claiming round will be the main pairs, and its up to them to decide how they want to interact with the second writer. pairs can choose to work closely with the second writer as a trio, or they can choose to simply work together and let the second writer write based on the original ideas on the claims page. whatever they decide and are comfortable with is the name of the game. keep in mind if all three decide to work closely, you will need to coordinate things like the final posting date and the final submission between all three of you. it could get pretty complicated, but if you think you can make it work then i will help you.

this will absolutely cut down on the number of pinch-hitters available. it will. for sure. this is smth to think abt, bc we did have 40+ artists drop out during the wip submission process alone. i guarantee there will be more as the event goes along, and that most of them will be writers. it happens, and i cannot guarantee i will be able to find replacements. this is why some of you might consider staying on as pinch-hitters instead of second writers.

perhaps most importantly though, this second round can only take place after all artists in the current round have been claimed. its a really crappy feeling to go unclaimed while there are writers lining up to write for artists who already have someone, and it would be kind of unfair of me to allow that to happen. we all know what its like to participate in fandom, so im sure you guys get it.

● tl;dr

main round claiming will still happen. this form will be available for all participants who are okay with allowing a second writer and will happen in the background. after all artists have been claimed in the main round, the second round will begin, containing only those pairings who agreed on the second writer. the main round will be confirmed and can begin working together during this time. once the second round is confirmed everyone involved will be notified. the rest of the writers will be first-choice pinch-hitters.

in order for this to happen all artists must be claimed in the main round. there are some other issues that could arise from this but theyre all workable.

i know it might not be ideal to some of you. ive heard from many people who dont want any second writers at all, and ive heard from many who are okay with it. its impossible for me to please everyone in a way that is feasible for me as well, but this is my best compromise and what im comfortable with. hopefully this is an acceptable enough answer. 

you are welcome to let me know what you think, but pls do so in a respectable manner. i got a few asks the other day not fit for public posting and its not appreciated ;) i have turned off anon for now bc im too sick to deal with that kind of thing, but it will be turned back on after the weekend is over. i apologize for the inconvenience.