#I've been meaning to draw one of these hand kiss artworks I've been seeing a lot!
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"The only time I’ve felt at home is when I’m with you."
my latest Tavlor one-shot, Home, is now available on AO3 ❤️ it's an explicit work, please see the tags for detailed info.
[Home on AO3]
thank you once again to @rainyssafespace for the beautiful reference: [x]
title is a song by Mumford & Sons
#tavlor#bg3#zevlor#tav x zevlor#zevlor x tav#baldurs gate 3#bg3 fanart#bg3 zevlor#oc: saoirse#I've been meaning to draw one of these hand kiss artworks I've been seeing a lot!#i couldn't find the original pose so this is slightly different#thank you rainy for all your gorgeous photos <3#i hope you enjoy this as much as I did c:#i love drawing him and Raph in candlelight#baldur's gate 3
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My husband finally put into words for me something that has been the main problem with this whole Anti Gwynriel because of Gwyn's past narrative.
According to Anti's, it's not ok to ship Gwyn with Az because she's not healed enough and hasn't shown that she's ready for a relationship.
According to Anti's, fanart of Gwynriel in provocative positions are not appropriate because it's disrespectful to Gwyn due to her SA, that she needs to first give verbal consent before we're allowed to imagine what a HEA for Gwynriel might look like.
And at first, it almost feels like a gotcha for them because you question whether you're disrespecting real survivors by saying, "she doesn't need to give consent for us to ship them since it's a book." This statement is true, I don't think readers should be forced to abide by real world morals when it comes to possible paths a characters arc might take, however it makes you pause for a moment to question whether what you're saying is disrespectful to those who have been victims.
But he actually flipped that entire thing on it's head when he said, "if the issue is about consent, then why is only being applied to a SA victim? Shouldn't consent be applied to everyone?"
It was kind of a lightbulb moment for me because those Anti's never vocalize how it's wrong for people to ship Eris & Az, Mor & Emerie, Vassa & Lucien (SA victim), Lucien, Jurian & Vassa, the LoA & Helion (because at this point they are not a consenting pair), Nesta & Eris. There are a bunch of non canon, non consent ships in this series and nobody has an issue with those. Nobody takes up the crusade arguing that it's wrong for people in the fandom to imagine those pairings together or drawing fanart of them in NSFW positions. Most of the time they're celebrated but has Emerie consented to having a sexual relationship with Mor? All she did was call her beautiful and Feyre had done the same in ACOMAF. Why do they never call out fanart of that pairing? Or Neris after Nesta harshly rejected him? Where Eris is currently suffering torture at the hands of Beron and we've got no clue as to his sexual preference. Also, Elain only consented to a fully clothed kiss in the bonus (remember, she grew up with human morals which she still holds fast too, she didn't jump right into bed with Graysen), we have no evidence she wanted more yet there's plenty of NSFW E/riel artwork out there and I'm betting some existed before SF, before she even consented to a kiss.
The only time I've ever heard anyone argue for consent or argue against NSFW art is in relation to Az and Gwyn and the message they're sending is that only female characters who have been SA need to give consent before fans should be shipping them.
That's when the shipping agenda makes itself known because if no other non-canon / non-consenting pairing disturbs them to the point they need to create post after post surrounding how wrong people are for shipping them, then it's clear to see that it's only Gwyn being shipped with Az that they take issue with and when only E/riels make these arguments, it seems highly suspect.
Gwyn's SA is irrelevant in terms of consent because EVERYONE should have consent before engaging in physical acts with others no matter their past. However, Gwyn's SA should not be the weight dragging her character down, the scarlet letter on her chest that means the fandom isn't allowed to give her the same treatment that all other characters receive. Where we're free to imagine and create fanart / fanfiction / headcanons (even the NSFW variety) for any pairing that we desire, regardless of their past or preference, even those who have never expressed romantic interest towards one another, except for Gwyn.
Consent in the actual book will be important but consent having already been given in our imaginations so we can imagine possibilities beyond what is currently written is the right of any reader.
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I’m sorry I said some unpleasant things to you earlier.
Your answer made me think about a lot of things I hadn’t thought before, both about CLAMP and Clear Card ? So thank you
I'm going to reply to this one immediately because I've been thinking for the past hour whether to reblog that post again and reply to your questions, or leave it be as I had said 😅
I'm sorry if I came across as irritated too, but the reason why I (and I think the other fan you reblogged from too) feel so over the edge about this topic is because it's been very difficult lately to interact with certain corners of the fandom without slipping into a puddle of negativity feeding on negativity, over matters that concretely no one of us can do anything about.
Sometimes I have the impression people see only the "artwork producing" side of Clamp and forget that they are human beings too, with their own wishes but most importantly, reasons and circumstances we know nothing about. And I have the impression the ease with how fans insult them might stem from (temporarily?) forgetting about that. It's so easy especially on the internet.
I don't know what perception you have of Clear Card and how much of what's been going on reaches other sides of the general Clamp fandom, but in 7 years and half many things changed, and I changed my perception too.
It might be absurd to think about that now, but there was a period early on when I also thought Clear Card could be here only as a commercial opportunity and I couldn't feel the love in the story. Turns out, I was probably influenced by external factors but most importantly, I hadn't reached the core of the story yet. I hadn't touched what was one of the biggest thematics they would talk about and I didn't understand yet what they were trying to do with this series, what risks they've taken to develop and portray properly those parts (like creating new characters that had importance and influence on the plot as much as the main character herself).
It's been 7 long, bumpy and difficult years of complaints in & out the CCS fandom, and the English official translation didn't help at all since it skewed most of the portrayal of the new characters. Now the last volume is out and I'm checking the comments of the Japanese fans, and lots of people who had dropped the series for the reasons I told you before are now satisfied with how the series ended.
A character in Clear Card says "when given the reason to change, no one can ever stay the same" and that's something we really need to remember more often. People, things, situations change. And what initially was discussed as just a one-shot to promote the start of the anime project, quickly changed into a full fledged and complex manga series. Ohkawa was probably struck with inspiration for a good story and thought it would've been a pity to develop it only through an anime, she wanted for them to tell that story with their own hands.
I also want to quickly address something you said in your reblog that I hadn't seen before.
For a lack of a better word, "fetish" to me means everything that encompasses your inclinations when you read a story. Those that make you go 😍 about it. It can be anything, big hands, wide shoulders, even kisses or the request for a wedding: I've seen over the years the most disparate complaints and even insults, sometimes, over those things. Like how Clamp didn't know how to draw anymore just because they didn't stay stuck in the past with their 90's shoulders and their art style is constantly changing depending on the themes of the story. It should be something to praise them for, because they're evolving and always keeping up to date with the trends, they're not stagnant.
I'm not saying we can't wish to see those things in their stories, what I said is that we can't expect them to live and work in the function of satisfying those requests for us. They should be free to write and draw what they really want to portray.
If I was able to make you see another side of the situation, I can only be glad about it! Thank you for your ask.
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Hi. I've seen you reposting art by thefriendlypigeon. Just wanted to tell you that she draws explicit in*est and refuses to put a trigger warning on it. She's also besties with Magdalena, Latizze other Misha haters. She also ships Sam/Jack and said that she wants to draw smut of Jack offering himself to Dean and Cas on Father's Day. Now Kelios uses this as an excuse to claim that Destiel shippers are into ped* stuff. When Friendlypigeon is a win*est shipper and has been for a long time.
Hi. I need to state that I hate getting asks like this because I have been involved in the fandom policing thing and its utter bullshit. No one involved is righteous or “doing the right thing” regardless of what they think. Fandom policing is wrong and I have absolutely no desire to involve myself in it. Therefore I would prefer to not be dragged into any fandom wank or wars between fan factions.
I reblogged (not reposted as I don’t condone reposting others creations) a piece of art work of Dean and Cas because I considered the artwork beautiful and well done. I do not know the artist, but the art itself was wonderful. Should we really be condemning all art based on the shortcomings of its creators? This is a bigger conversation than anything within SPN fandom and frankly I’m not interested in diving into those murky waters right now.
I will just say this. I absolutely do not in any way endorse the likes of Magda, Latizze, Kamidox, Vinnie or Kelios. They are nasty, cruel, hate filled people worthy of nothing but our pity. They are best left ignored to wallow in their own hatred. I have far better things to do than concern myself with those sad individuals. If the artist in question interacts with them, then I only hope that they don’t get dragged into the hatred those vile individuals radiate. Anyone who involves themselves with such pure forms of hatred is in for a bad time. As someone who has experienced first hand the more hateful side of Destiel fandom, I know what happens when you get too close to people filled with hate. Don’t concern yourself with whatever bullshit Kelios and her cronies are currently focusing on. No one takes those idiots seriously. Block them, and move on with your life.
As far as wincest art goes, I quite obviously can’t stomach it. I have the very word “wincest” blacklisted and blocked across all social media. But I know plenty of people who are multishippers who are into it. Each to their own. So long as they aren’t pushing for incest to be mainstream, canon, or normalised in society, then I honestly don’t care what other people get up to in the privacy of their own bedrooms. I haven’t ever heard of anyone shipping Sam and Jack, or Jack with Dean and Cas *shudder*. That to me is just as disturbing as incest. I don’t understand it and don’t intend to even try to understand it either. By me reblogging the destiel art of one artist, that does not mean that I support everything else that artist might say or create.
I’m not gonna start some all out attack on people who are into fucked up shit. Because nothing I personally say or do is going to change that, and frankly, I came back to tumblr for a peaceful time away from the fandom wars of Twitter. I’m not interesting in attacking anybody. I block and move on. This particular artist has never done anything to offend me, and I have never seen offensive art by them. I’m not gonna stop reblogging beautiful works of theirs I find just because of one anonymous message either.
There are lots of messed up things in this world, but if we dwell too much on what others are doing we will only end up corrupting ourselves. My suggestion nonny is that you block this artist and blacklist their name. By blacklisting a persons url you are effectively removing them completely from your tumblr experience even if others you follow reblog their work. I have to do this with a well known destiel artist that is always being reblogged by people I follow for my own particular reasons - nothing against the artist themselves, just their artwork makes me uncomfortable and I don’t want to see it.
I’m not sure what you expected by sending me this message, whether you wanted me to publicly condemn this artist, delete my reblog of their work and tell all my followers to immediately unfollow them or whatever, but I’m not going to do that. Sorry to disappoint you if that is the case, I’m just not interested in the constant wars and drama of SPN fandom anymore. I just wanna reblog cute pics of Dean and Cas kissing whenever I can, and enjoy my remaining time in fandom whilst it lasts. Follow whoever you want to follow, reblog whoever you wanna reblog from, ideally tag accordingly as courtesy for peoples blacklists, and utilise the block button as often as you can. Above all things, be kind to others, and practice self care on yourself. If you don’t like something, remove it from your online life, and please consider why you might be going to other bloggers to “tell” on people you don’t like. All it does is cause more unnecessary negativity.
#fandom drama#fandom policing#man i dunno#please don't send me asks like this#I don't really care about what other bloggers are doing#so long as they aren't actually hurting people#and even then what do you honestly expect me to do about it#i am one small blog#i just want this to be a positive place#asks#anon#Anonymous
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Girl, I know probably I won't say anything that I haven't said already over and over, but I meant to rb again and rant and here I am 😭😭😭 I've been thinking of what to say about this artwork since you posted it, there's so much to say and not enough words to do that 😭💙 This is one of the most thoughtful and sweetest things someone's ever made for me. 💙🥺 And I know it could've happened to anyone else as it happened to me, but still, thank you so so so so so ♾️ much for making this gift for me from the very bottom of my heart, I cherish it an unbelievable amount and love it even more 🥺💙🌹And not only one, but two different versions (in my heart even more! Girl! 😭😭😭💔💔💔 You know what I mean 🥺💙) of this artwork. 🥺🥺🤧💙
You managed to put in a sole artwork so many things that pull at my heartstrings on a daily basis. Ugh I can't believe you drew Joker without make up, and not only that, but even with the rose!! 😭 This means to me more than I can say, I feel so spoiled by you! 🥺🥺🥺💙💙💙 Thank you for blessing my eyes and soul with the sight of him 💙 Arthur in the Joker suit without make up is something that I feel very close to my heart for so many reasons, and the rose aaahhhh I've so many thoughts about roses. 🙈 you somehow managed to put them all on this drawing. Ugh 💙🥺
I've been daydreaming of Joker without make up for months and months but my mind was never able to bring me to the image you conveyed in this artwork. He's so beautiful, so charming and romantic and beyond what I could ever imagine. 😭😭 Read more 🌹
The first thing I noticed as soon as you showed me this artwork were his wrinkles and the fine lines mapping his face. I simply love the way you drew them, one of my favorite things about him tbh. 🥺 No one has the kind of wrinkles he has, they make him Arthur. 💙 His laughter lines are carved so deeply in his skin, their extremities so prominent, the dark circles so clear in his skin and the puffiness below his eyes so soft and delicate. You have no idea how much this artwork makes me yearn to touch and kiss them. 😭😭😭😩😩😩 You captured the details of his skin wonderfully, I can feel them under my hands so clearly both with the make up and without, and this shows how talented you are 🥺
The expression on his face is SO sweet. I love how much his face change with or without make up, it looks almost like his features change with the make up applied and the colors give his face a unique expression, and yet at the same time his face is always the same and you can tell that it's always Arthur, always the same handsome man with gentle eyes and sweet smile. His gaze has a kind of shy gentleness that makes me lose my mind, both as Arthur and Joker, his eyes are so soft and his smile is so sweet. I love that the corners of his mouth are subtly bent upward 😭😭 the way he's inviting you just by the look on his face makes me so 🥴🥴🥴🥴
And the rose! 😭😭😭 The rose already on itself gives the artwork a wonderful atmosphere of romance and reverie, combined with the gentle look on his face i can only lose my mind. 😩😩😩😩 It almost looks like he's applying a gentle teasing toward you as he hands you over the rose, in this house we love a gentle teasing Joker 😩
His gaze makes him look charming and irresistible, and the rose in his hand accentuates it. 🥺
I love also how his whole frame changes with or without make up, as Joker he looks even taller? Like his dreams is blooming upward 🥺 I loved the way you gave him a different haircut when he's Joker. It's very subtle but I noticed that Joker got a few more strands of hair, his hairline longer, some few more sparse hairs covering his temples slightly more than when he's Arthur, and the soft stray curls Joker has around his forehead that Arthur is missing. I love this choice and I totally see why you did it 💙
This artwork is truly what my heart dreams about, so inspiring and truly all I could ever wanted, I don't know how to thank you but hopefully I will be able, in due time, hoping that the due time comes as soon as possible because I can't wait to thank you as you fucking deserve, you give not only me but this fandom so much every day with your art, your place in this fandom could never be replaced 💙💙💙💙
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
It’s almost Christmas time, which means I participated in the Secret Santa gift exchange in the Chuckletown Discord server again! My giftee this year is @jokerownsmysoul ! Merry Christmas Fla!!! 🎅🎁💖
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Sweet girl, this is one of the sweetest and most beautiful things someone's ever done for me. I can't tell you how much it means to me that you spent your precious time to make one of your beautiful artwork for me, I cherish your art dearly and you're one of the most talented people I know, it really means everything to me what you did. 🤧💙 You must know me very well because you put into this drawing everything I love and that represents me, it's perfect 😭😭 I'm a sucker for these homely, soft vibes and domestic bliss, for the feeling of peacefulness you get in sharing a home with someone; moments that are ordinary, but special nonetheless. The kitchen is a concept very dear to me for a lot of reasons, something that I've always linked to love since I was little and you captured these feelings flawlessly here, it's a very important part of my life and of myself. 🥺💙 And my italian inner self too 😂 Looking at this drawing I get a feeling of peace, warmth and serenity, and brings me back to beautiful memories, it's unparalleled. 💙 His expression is so tender, he looks content and comfy and it's priceless to see him like that, without any worries but just enjoying a dinner with someone he clearly loves. He has a twinkle in his eyes that melts my heart, and I've no idea how you manage every time to capture his emotions and this twinkle so well, he looks so happy and relaxed oof. 🥺 It feels like the person who's sitting across from him is talking about their day, and he's listening to them carefully as they eat together after a long day, when they finally can unwind and rest, a intimate moment where the world is cut out of their life. I can hear their lighthearted giggles, the amusement and coziness in the air and the warmth radiated from small convos, stolen bites, laughs and shared soft moments. This drawing is everything 🥺💙 And of course you drew him with the red sweater. Girl! 😭😭😭 The detail of this drawing are mind blowing let me tell you, and you captured the red sweater so well that I can feel the softness of its fabric under the palm of my hand. 😫😫😫 I love the loose strands of hair on his forehead, his wrinkles and dimples, the tenderness in his eyes, his beautiful smile and his crooked tooth cast in shadow. I'm head over heels for his wrist, too, it's such a tender part of his body, I love it so much idk why, and the detail of his tendons visible along his inner wrist makes me want to go wild. Must kiss and trace. 😭😭😭 I adore his hand leaning on his cheek as if he's in the middle of a convo and he's paying attention, completely relaxed and at ease. His hair looks so fluffy and soft, Arthur so warm and cozy. You gave him this disheveled look that makes me lose my mind, combined with the red sweater even more. 🥴🥴🥴 And you draw spaghetti so wonderfully, they're so realistic that I got hungry when I first saw the drawing I stg. 😂 The reflection of the glass is stunning girl, really the details of this drawing are unbelievable. And it's priceless to see him eat 🥺💙 he needs that, and it gives me a vibe of nourishment I love, but also because I'm dying to see the way he eats 😭 it's a ordinary gesture, but I want to see him eat so badly. We never got to see that in the movie. 🥺 To know him intimately that way, as he does ordinary things and surrounded by his habits, to see him eat, sleep, wash the dishes etc. 🥺 and I think that you can tell a lot of things about a person from the way they eat, it's private. 💙 Also, cooking for the people I love is one of my love languages and I'm dying to cook for him, it's always been a daily yearning anf daydream, so this drawing hits me in the feels. 👉🏻👈🏻🥺 You have golden magic in your hands, this drawing is everything to me, it feels like home. I can't thank you enough for that. 😭💙 You have a big and selfless heart and you're the sweetest 🥺😭🤧💙💙💙 this is one of the longest rambles I've ever done but can you blame me 😭🤧💙👉🏻👈🏻 not in a million years I'll be able to thank you enough oof. 😭 It's an honor for me to support you and to know you, and I love you too! 🥺💙
This one is dedicated to the one and only @jokerownsmysoul . Love you Flà! Thank you so much for your constant support and inspiration! 💕
#thank you ♾️♾️♾️♾️♾️♾️♾️#my fav#I just want to cook for him & show him that I care about him 😭😭#God why I can't shut up 😂 I'm such a dramatic clown#Anyway. Ily girl 💙🌺🌹🌞🌞🌞#Regalo
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