#I'm still drawing btw! I've just not really posted it online because it's bad for me mentally I think
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Anxiety PFPs!
*crawls out from my cave to present you these before scuttling away again*
#breaking my hiatus to post these cus... I dunno lol#she has my heart#Her girlfail rizz and tired eyebags have enthralled me#I'm still drawing btw! I've just not really posted it online because it's bad for me mentally I think#Anyway! I like this movie lots :3#inside out#inside out 2#inside out anxiety#inside out fandom
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For the last couple weeks I've been drawing logos / designs for local-ish (mostly NJ, some PA and NY) bands as warmups in the morning. Here's what I've come up with! Massive post below the break explaining each logo + where to find each band and listen to their music.
Teenage Halloween- a staple of New Jersey basements for probably about a decade now and finally getting wider recognition in the last couple years. Pop punk / power pop with a killer horn section. First time I saw them was in New Brunswick playing with Walter Etc. and Blowout. They played a killer cover "Build Me Up Buttercup" and my wife got a black eye in the pit. Recommended tracks: "Brain Song," "666," "Clarity." Their first EP is on a separate bandcamp page btw, check it out here it's great.
Sweet Pill - They will call themselves a Philly band but in my heart they'll always be from Glassboro. Definitely one of the more recognizable names on this list. Emo revival - early stuff is more twinkly, more recent stuff is heavier. All of it's great. Recommended tracks "Nephew," "High Hopes."
Shark Club - Central Jersey's finest. I'm very biased because I actually know these dudes and they did the music for my wedding. Some of the best pop punk you'll hear and the nicest people you'll meet. Recommended tracks: "Game Theory," "Bill Murray," "Heavens to Betsy."
Rest Ashore - My favorite band for the last (oh God I'm old now) eight years. From gut-wrenching emo ballads to virtuoso math-rock instrumentals they do it all. One time I got to sing vocals on "Lucy's Theme" at a house show- thank you Erica! Recommended tracks: "Hjarta," "Chinese Opera," "Devotion," "Soyuz Sweetheart." Too many bangers to name honestly, just deep dive their discography.
Morus Alba - First band I ever went to see at a house show and still one of my absolute favorites. Their music feels like the bridge between the best pitchfork, /mu/ alt rock bands and high energy basement emo. I mean that as a compliment and I hope it comes off as one lol. I should note that since 2019 Morus Alba has morphed from a band into an experimental hip-hop project so later releases sound radically different and basically disconnected from the earlier stuff. Also my favorite release from them, Live at Isabelle's, has been scrubbed from the internet but if you'd like the files just email me. Recommended tracks: "Skyscraper," "Human Resources," "The Goodnight Waltz."
Have a Good Season - another Jersey mainstay that's still going strong. Emo revival in their earlier releases, now with more 70s power pop influences in their newer stuff. See them live, they put on a fantastic show and usually play some great covers in addition to their original music. HaGS guys if you're reading this, please put your version of "Since You've Been Gone" online, I'm begging you. Recommended tracks: "Joseph / Shel Silverstein," (you have to listen to them together for the drop, so good) , "Gum, "Gleaux / Scab." Also, frontman Nic Palermo interviewed me once.
Elephant Jake - If you see any of these bands live make it EJ, they put on such a damn good show. Electrifying indie punk from the Empire State. Recommended tracks: "F.D.C." "Sarah Moyer," "Goodness to Honest," and of course you gotta learn "Sebastien Bauer" for the singalongs.
Blind Lion - Sadly one of the greats that we lost along the way. Defunct since about 2017. I only got to see them once but it was a great performance. Alongside their own stuff they played some killer covers of "Bad Moon Rising" and "Moonage Daydream." I had trouble doing a logo design for them because I actually really like the composition, if not the "Ed Hardy-ness," of their existing logo so what you see here are two separate attempts, neither of which feels entirely satisfying to me. Frontperson Larry Flately currently plays in Nematode and also handled production of Bradley Gardens joke hiphop group The Breakfast Boiz under the moniker "DJ Ova EZ." Recommended tracks: "Brumous," "Dinner."
Fighting Seasons - A band that I sadly found out about too late (via a sticker under the bridge in my town which has since been painted over). 2010s pop punk that packs a helluva punch, especially considering that I'm pretty sure the members were high schoolers for most of the band's existence. I think some members may have gone on to form Sawce (FFO Chon, Polyphia, that type of music) but I can't remember where I read/heard that so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Recommended tracks: "Fighting Seasons," "Oil on Canvas"
Milkmen- Another fallen giant, officially disbanded in 2019. Like Morus Alba, they played the very first house show I attended and their few releases remain on constant rotation in my home. Used to put on a great show and were one of the bands I always thought would make it big until suddenly they weren't around anymore. Frontman Ben Thieberger contributed guitar and vocals to Covid quarantine project Kin if you're looking for a bit of an extra fix but beyond that I don't know what these guys are up to these days, sadly. Recommended tracks: "Ramus," "Johnny Dangerously," "how sieves catch breeze," "K.O.T.H."
Stand and Wave - New York (now Philly) pop punkers delivering instant dopamine hits with every track. Another great live act, see them with EJ if you can! They often play shows together. Recommended tracks: "Convos," "Mrs. Dash," "Splashton Kutcher," "Michael Collins."
My Chemical Romance - You know who they are. While I was drawing all these other logos I ran a poll on Patreon to decide which famous New Jersey band should also be graced with a drawing from me. MCR won the poll by a hefty margin so unfortunately you won't get to see me do an illegible black metal take on Hoboken's Yo La Tengo. I ended up doing two versions: the one with the halo is the first, the one with the bats was the second. I tried to do something kind of thin and elegant with the first one and I don't think it's terrible but I also wasn't quite satisfied with it. For the 2nd attempt I tried to lean into the kind of pulpy, almost horror punk aesthetic of early MCR and I think that one looks better even if it's less original.
Anyway if you took the time to read through all this, thank you very much! And please support these bands! Also If any of the links aren't working please let me know.
-Logan
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do u have art tips (for like anatomy and face expressions and angles)? I was scrolling though your ACC and when I tell you I’m eating ur art, I’m actually digesting it as we speak, I love it sm 😭😭
TRACE!!!! IDC WHAT ANYONE ELSE SAYS. TRACE ART AND LEARN FROM IT. USING 3D MODELS IS OKAY ‼️‼️ PROFESSIONALS DO IT AND YOU CAN TOO ‼️‼️‼️
but of course, don't post it online or claim it as yours, that's just wrong 🫶
BTW THIS IS JUST WHAT I DO. IF ANYONE ELSE HAS SOME TIPS, DROP THEM IT'LL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!
art rules are meant to be broken-💥💥💥
i think i'm the worst person to ask for tips cause i don't follow my own guidelines. i've only recently started to use references but i'm usually too lazy to search for them. which is pretty bad since i can't really visualize stuff in my head (your artist has aphantasia)
when i do half body to full body poses, i just use 3d models and start from there. i usually adjust things to my liking after i copy out the pose. i'm still currently learning anatomy so idk what tips to give about it rn BUT i do have some tips
i think angles helps a lot with what mood you want to convey in a drawing. it may also help with expressions. you can use boxes for drawing different angles of the head. i do this when the angle of the head i'm drawing is hard to draw.
an example on how i used it:
another thing you can try is to learn an artist's anatomy style by drawing guidelines on top of a drawing like this:
see how everything is placed and what bodypart is line with what like: the eyes are in the same height as the tip of the ears, the elbow is line with the dip of the waist, etc.
just adjust stuff to your liking. your work doesn't have to be super anatomically accurate, if it is, there's a possibility that the pose might look stiff so change up some things and exaggerate them. just practice some angles, it'll become muscle memory in time.
if it looks nice, then it's good enough 👍
observe and redraw. it's just copying art styles i like and attempting to incorporate it into my own art. my art style inspos are wildwolf_group and donaldakron (i’m also absolutely in love with their lighting and shading) on twitter because the way they draw hair is so nice.
study art styles 👍 i like looking at their sketches and studying how they do specific things like hair and faces in different angles. pinterest is a huge help if you want art inspo. it's okay to copy poses from artworks but be careful to not copy it entirely if the pose looks complicated or unique, you might get accused of theft 😓 (it's brutal out here)
if you want more art tips, i recommend watching bluebiscuits's videos on youtube. speedpaints have also helped me a lot in the past (we need to bring them back <///33) i also recommend watching art streams. i spend a lot of my time on twitch. it helps understand how an artist draws and may also provide inspo.
some art streamers i frequently watch are: uqi32, yyebuan, meanddeadlines, eo58, mikamuse, Teikki_, hazmatEN, jianrouVT, manda, KandaEm, neg_illustration, AmefuRin, owohiropon, shengtaki, thekansta, pixzli, gravitydusty. I KNOW IT'S A LOT BUT I'M ON TWITCH 24/7 😭
there's also user-cm2co1hw2u (twitter: pdman2) and kuzuvine (twitter: ksk535) on youtube
that's all for now. if some of you have more questions (whether personal or art related) just ask away. i don't bite :)
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GOBSHITE'S ADVENTURES - PART 3
(PART 1 & PART 2)
8) La discussion civilisée se poursuit
Sit down, your favorite story about dumb chump is about to continue.
After the long, tiring, useless and hollow debate from the 2 earlier parts, the same old claptrap wheels continued to grind by new response from chucklefuckle:
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✉️ CHUCKLEFUCK: I have yet to hear a Reason behind the decline, so far (REALLY?), all I hear is Excuses, and entertainment can go both ways, but to be fair, it’s probably in the Genes by now and I don’t mean Mine, so I highly suggest you take these conversations seriously instead of being either selfish, lazy or/and greedy. Why do you claim my project is free then when it is in fact a Collaboration? Again, the only type of persons who would say such a thing before even hearing my offer out are those who are selfish, lazy or/and greedy, TBH, I really wish you aren't one of them, the MLP Fandom is infested with too much already and so far, 1 in 200 or 300 are even close of being worthy of the title Brony, believe me when I said so, I've tried. Don’t think you’re the only one I confronted about this, and admittedly, most of the people in Fandom really are Criminals, they just follow the thought/trends of “Since there’s many people are doing it so it must be Legal” when it’s not, however, I do not believe that ALL the Fans of the franchise are bad people, Mostly Yes but not All, lastly, if the OC’s truly are Original, as in NOT “Inspired” by other Copyrighted Franchise then that’s okay, in terms of Laws and Legalization that is, now the only questions is the Intentions behind them.
Confirming you’re indeed not from the UK so that the Laws about Copyrights wouldn’t affect you aren’t Justified Reason enough? Don’t lump me in like the rest of them Fake Artist Wannabe, unlike them, I have been a good Law Abiding Citizen, if you want to draw then draw, I’m not stopping you from doing what you want but I don’t see how and/or why that should be posted if you’re just doing it to show off if it’s related to an Existing Franchise. You called it Harassing, I called it Asking, if you want to play it that way then go Rob a Bank then if you’re fine gaining money Illegally, you Thief (lmao), if you want to call what I'm doing as Harassing, then I can call what you're doing as either Stealing or Extortions. Says the one who’s using MLP for nothing more than Profits, you’d know a lot about Manipulating Techniques now wouldn’t you? I’ve told you, I’m no stranger to Hate’s and Accusations. I’ll accept that as a Compliment then, knowing I do struck a nerve of how true it is that you’re indeed only making MLP Arts for profits, you’re welcome to Prove me wrong BTW, if you can that is. The same Cartoon where you’re or the rest of those Fake Artists trying to take advantage of by using their name 's and Popularity to gaining Profits Illegally? I’d say that’s a very popular Cartoon and Characters, are you in Grade School BTW? Because then these arguments would make so much sense, and I don’t mean me included since I am already old enough to have a Job. Just being clear, there are people that think I like to delay replying just because I can, but I’m not that low nor Free of time. I didn’t, like I said, you’re the one who’s being Dramatic and making things Personal, all I ever wanted from anyone is their help to make this project of mine a reality, I didn’t say you aren’t a “Great Character” but you aren’t Proving to be one either based on all of your declination of my offer/project, BTW, I’m from Malaysia so English isn’t my first Language. If that were true, you wouldn't be posting those MLP Pics online and demanding Moneys for them now would you? Or is there another reason behind the Posting and Profiting of MLP Franchise? I've told you, we still have a VERY LONG conversation ahead of us.
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Sure thing.
These chats were good entertainment for me and some of my friends but god honestly, one can take only so much stupid for one day/week/month. I swear, the arguments between me and my 2 year old niece about drawing to the wallpapers or throwing diapers out the window have had more fuel in them than this shit.
My lack of fuel was present on the response I farted for the garbage:
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✉️ SOAP: Aren’t gonna even argue about this shit since nothing seems to go trough your skull. This shit is getting slowly just tiring and annoying. I did you a favor and removed all of my art from my account so you can sleep your night with dry sheets without need to worry about me gaining a half penny by posting them on public or cartoon ponies being misused. Horay!
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I kind of lost my interest on inkbunny at this point (partly thanks to chucklefuck and partly because it really wasn't site for me), so I decided to remove the art, wipe off the profile page junk and other content and planned to remove my account at some point.
9) final chapter where little red riding hood goes home and 3 little pigs are turned into ribs
I received one more response before I kind of gave up the hopeless ass debate since shit was getting just fucking tiring and the argument had turned into bizarre shittery I struggled to even follow.
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✉️ CHUCKLEFUCK: There's something wrong with Everyone, you and me are No Exception, I don’t believe in something called “Perfection”, anyway, you’re the one who claims my messages are “Entertaining”, not my fault you decided to push someone’s who simply won’t give up without a Good Reason first AND that are Very Passionate in MLP and Arts their buttons. You do actually, you posted those Pics to gain attention, now you have Mine, and I don’t let someone who uses MLP for their own Benefits off very Easily. In short, I’ll treat you the same way you have/will treat me. you posted those MLP pics without thinking of the consequences, and you want to talk about dangerous now?
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I have heard of the serious ass consequences about uploading pictures of Donald Duck bonking Scrooge to the duckrump, but never abt the severe consequences of uploading/crafting pony arts. Spooky!
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✉️ CHUCKLEFUCK: Seeing them in person makes a lot of difference than arguing with them online, by the sounds of it, maybe you should take a walk in the Real World instead. You did YOURSELF a favor, we both know you’re not doing this to save anyone but yourself, if you are then prove it, you really think deleting those MLP Pics mean they won’t exist anymore? If so then you’re even more Naive than I am.
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Gobshite apparently decided that I removed the art because I wanted to hide my cartoon pony shaped war crimes against humanity and jumped into some wild ass conclusion about my motives and how I can't hide from the chucklefuck and shit.
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I know you exist BECAUSE of those pics, I know you can do MLP because of those Pics you posted, if not then you won’t even hear from me in the first place but now you do, and how’s that “Half Penny” working out for you? Also, This is the Internet, just because you delete them in Inkbunny doesn’t mean they’re not available elsewhere, like for example:- https:// twitter.com/ saippuaku It's typically a weakness that all of those who enjoys attentions which normally have Over-Inflated Ego would have. You can also delete them there if you wanted to, just know I have Full Screenshot of that entire Page, don't believe me? here's the proof - https://mega.nz/folder/UOxAwbQA#P5-bk3tLXO5kKPtLdPN8lw For what it's worth, I really hope you're not one of "Those" type of People.
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Sure thing.
Right now the link goes to empty folder but at time it included screenshots of my social media accounts full of my ponycrimes (art).
At this point shit turned kind of creepy. Arguing like fucking idiot is one thing, but archiving my shit as proof of something (ponycrimes) was something else.
Friend, who I updated about the clodpole's replies, was starting to get actually lil concerned about chuchklefuck (again turbo secret name):
Being lil tired of this shit as well, I decided to follow friend's advice with lazy route and banned chucklefuck's account. Honestly, I wouldn't have minded to leave fuckface to argue alone on private messages since I had no plans to stay on the site, but honestly, this goofer was digging blood from his nose as we say here.
Of course blocking fucklecuckers account didn't stop the parade. Chucklefuck had to return once more to poop his last brilliant comment behind other username to say something that would make me feel like idiot (and him feel like he achieved something with this nonsensical debate).
Sure thing.
Eventually I removed my account and got rid of the asscrab.
Out of my morbid curiosity and because im lil asshole, I wanted to test something. I made new account with some smooth kawaii name and told friend to draw me some notorious mlp pony that I posted to my new turbo secret account.
For fucking no one's surprise, this account soon got lil too familiar message from our old friend, chucklefuck (account doesn't exist anymore so i arent gonna censor shit):
Replying to this shit could have brought up another brilliant 6 page long debate but we have got enough of that shit so no thanks.
For no one's surprise, chucklefuck's accounts were soon banned from inkbunny. I was little surprised no one had kicked the moron out of the site earlier if the level of the debate was as shit as it was with me. Dude had account on art site only to garble and harass people drawing mlp art.
TL;DR: In the end, I haven't seen chucklefuck since the banhammer did its job and good so. Lets never meet again, schlong. Also fuck u.
The lesson in this mess of a story is A) If someone grinds your gears or rustles your jimmies, don't be scared to block the asshole B) you don't owe people shit C) draw ur own ass content instead of weaseling that task for some strangers by calling the imho questionable division of work "collaboration".
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I'm the anon who sent you the long message that apparently came off "pompous & infantilizing" and more to your followers.
I find it interesting that that message sparked such a flood of defenders, when I did not send it in bad faith at all. From your answer it seems I'm lacking context so sorry if I took some of your statements the wrong way, but nonetheless I just found the parental love addition strange and reacted to that, that was all there was to it. I clearly stated (three times) I'm not taking any issue with your headcanons.
By saying they are far removed from canon I did not mean to say they are "too unrealistic" or something is wrong with that, I literally said the opposite. I meant just that, that factually, this will not be a common interpretation for someone who is familiar with the source material but not your blog. This is not a statement that I made with any judgemental value and I thought I made that very clear but apparently not.
So I'm sorry for the additional ask.
Have a nice day.
Thank you for the response.
I was fully aware you said there was no issue with what I drew, but the way you wrote everything else sort of negated that statement. At least that's how me and many other people saw it.
If someone finds what I drew strange or confusing then they could always just... block me or ask me about it (and btw I expected people to be confused, otherwise I wouldnt have labeled it "non-coupling" as soon I posted it lol)
Someone did ask me about it, and you seem to have already seen that response, yet you still felt the need to send another message basically implying that an explanation wasn't enough (turns out it actually wasnt enough because people said I was lying and in denial) and that my explanation was weird too? Which is whatever I already ended up clarifying that, English is not my first language and I type things with the help of a translator (I wish people could actually keep this in mind. I only type in English because it'll reach a wider audience and it's the language most of my followers know. Often I have to google words people tell me online, or I ask my friends fluent in English to explain things for me)
You can say "that's not what I intended" but that's how it came across... you wrote a lot of nice words while also saying it was understandable that people were ganging up on me over a drawing, it seemed patronizing.
That's why me and others took offense to it, but I think it's difficult to tell tone through text so I don't want to keep nitpicking this any further. If you say you had no ill intent then I believe you.
The following will just be me adding more context and not necessarily aimed at you: Again I understand the lack of context of my account can make people confused about my art, Ive made that clear many times.
The art I made where I said "if your parents didnt love you then it's obvious" was a direct response to people who were mocking me specifically for tagging the art as "non-coupling" because they didnt believe me. They got the context and decided I was trying to hide a fetish because a kiss on the cheek was "obviously shippy". They proceeded to compare this to drawing NSFW of Mob and Reigen by labelling it "non-ship" as if it was comparable to tucking a child into bed, that's what upset me. I did absolutely nothing to these people, I dont know them, if they said this privately I wouldnt care but it was public, and they also targeted another friend of mine for no reason.
All Im gonna say is that my drawing shouldnt have caused this much controversy in the first place. I labeled it "non-coupling" as soon as I posted it, which should've been enough honestly. It's not like I posted porn or anything like that, I got the idea from something Ive experienced in my family as a teenager and I could easily google stock images of the exact same scenario to use as reference, like I really didnt think it was that bad.
Anyways I think I've explained myself many times already. Im not gonna be hostile and say to people "roh t9awed dont ever send me anything else related to this" but just.. check if Ive already answered your question so that it doesnt end up being repetitive. If you have a question about this that I havent answered yet, then feel free to ask.
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Sometimes I really struggle with the fact that my focus is actually my own original fiction but I don't want to post it online here because most only care about fandom and fan works...think I've only shown one friend any original writing of mine in the past like 6 years, painstakingly copypasted into discord a while back (sorry Francel, I still haven't continued the story I was showing you XD).
Sometimes I find self-published stuff from other people and find I have no interest. Or the writing's bad or unedited and I struggle already with reading stuff these days anyway. Like...is that me? Am I also like these people? Would I also engender the same reaction if I were to self-publish? Or even send in my writing to literary agents? Moreover, do I want people making fanworks of my stuff and getting the characterization wrong or making up things that aren't there because my writing isn't good enough for them and they have a bone to pick with me when all I'm doing is writing something I want to read and just happened to be marketable? I get that this is not often the case but I see people constantly bitching about this or that in a published work these days and just feel like I would ignore everyone completely so I don't have to deal with it. I'd be a terrible famous author. I'd also hire a team of lawyers to make sure no one makes some shitty hollywood derivative of my work that white washes and sanitizes everything until 150 years after my death, but I mean that actually seems like a smart thing to do these days if you don't want some asshole director coming in and saying 'what if the protag was some white dude and it was just a clone of conan the barbarian because i really wanted to direct conan the barbarian but they didn't let me!' (if you know you know) (i know a lot of lawyers btw so if i were ever in this situation i'd have a clause that lets me shut the whole thing down, like fuck that guy and his ego, he made a terrible movie and there's a reason they didn't let him take over conan the barbarian)
It's the same ol problem I've been wrestling with since first joining ff.net when I was 14. At least my family likes my writing. When my grandma was alive she totally shipped some of my characters together, which was hilarious. I think she'd enjoy the stuff I wrote after she passed. My parents probably wonder if I've quit entirely...
Well, since making it off duloxetine I've been a lot more motivated to write and draw. We'll see if I can get back to it. Will I share it with the world? ...only the fanfic, probably. If i ever get famous you'll know it was me because somehow dragons are involved when they normally aren't and there's one character with social anxiety who speaks in run-on sentences when flustered. Possibly it's the dragon with social anxiety. Also i've escaped the confines of tolkien-esque high fantasy and have no orcs or ogres or dwarves or elves. I'm tired of seeing those. oh and also tired of humans. you know what, next thing i write will be about birds. and dragons. bird dragons.
'add tags to help people find your post' go AWAY tumblr I do not wish to be found, i wish only to exist and occasionally be glimpsed from a distance by someone who respects me as a proper cryptid
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Hey thanks for reblogging so fast, I did in fact have a lot more tags that Tumblr cut off. Honestly not sure if the cutoff puts me in a better light sorry heh
I have been called out for being too mean before. What tends to happen is I have really good dramatic ideas for things to say in the moment and then I'm like "well, I'm used to people not hearing me before I bring up the gravity of the situation sooo... maybe dramatization is justified?" But that's never worked out for obvious reasons.
I'm really sorry if I came off as needlessly cruel btw. I don't want to have anything bad to say about you guys, genuinely. As a Marcy kin, as well as mayybe a Sasha kin but on my betterment path (btw not in the manipulative cheerleader side of her or even the team leader side but in the "I have opinions all the time, and if I'm not in control at all times, I'll go crazy! it's actually kind-of exhausting" type, mainly because of autism abuse(?) trauma- but like, that's not begging for sympathy it's just an explanation), as well as a sapphic who likes to imagine being loved, I completely understand why the trio are favourite characters, esp with how comparitively uncomplicated most of the side characters seem to be. With a cast so large and all.
I'm sorry I went too far, honestly I'm really just trying to make a splash at this point due to current issues and I'm really sorry I said something that made you feel bad about liking characters or the writing of the show. Believe me, I know how it feels for comfort characters to be ruined by a hater.
Lastly, sorry that I went off on you, I genuinely did not guess that you were a Sprig enjoyer. Terribly sorry about that, honestly. It's just... did you forget? Forgive me for assuming negative things about you based on nothing. I also don't blame you if you forgot that one moment before posting, nuerodivergent brains are just like that sometimes. (also remember how Sasha sacrificed herself at the end of s1 with the iconic red moon shot, which was when the fandom started being open online. So, also canon window-throwing moment kiiinda? Like the setting and intent is different but like, does it still count?) Bottom line is forgive me for being mean to you with no basis.
Actually I'm doing a PS. thing because it's worth mentioning: I'm not bringing up current issues to justify my being a bully or anything. Just as an explanation for the bad things I've done. It's honestly hard to tell where to draw the line between constructive criticism and ruining other people's comfort characters. I absolutely do not want to give any people like me the impression that they are doing something bad by making content about a character they can relate to and their happy ending, since I get enough of that irl and I do NOT want to be the next link in the chain.
So... I did some mental reframing and my problem is that I'm obsessing over characters who are basically tertiary characters and rarepairs in the minds of the greater fandom once again and making it out to be a bigger deal than it is, as I'm kinda pissy about this non-issue specifically since this is The Frog Show and I feel a bit more entitled than usual, yeah sorry I'll stop I am way more in the wrong than I was lol I'll shut up (please don't feel like you have to beg for me to come back I explicitly am not trying to manipulate you into feeling guilty with this last one btw since I have had to defend myself on this front)
"And the random ass crossover question of the day is—!"
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In The Case Of Shipping. Queer Ships and Straight Ships
A topic I will never shut up about. Before I start I will admit, I am on the queer side of fandom a lot more often than I am on the straight side and I will be speaking from that perspective. If you have another perspective to share with me, please do so respectfully.
Shipping will always be something that gray to me. I like shipping culture and enjoy certain communities around certain ships, but people getting way too defensive about it will always be something to drags me emotionally. It makes me sad especially when it's people who are like me. Fellow queer shippers trying to explain why certain things between two characters can be seen as queer coding and then being called delusional by people who are either willfully ignorant or simply don't understand the point of queer coding. That's not to say queer shippers are without fault, however. We do have a really terrible tendency of calling people who don't like our ship homophobic and ignoring characters from other media that ARE actually written to be queer, in favor of continuing to argue that there are next to no queer characters in the content they like. While they are scarce they are not non-existent. Not to mention, a decent amount of character portrayals do tend to be very extremely sexual and can be found in places that they do not belong.
That being said straight shippers aren't without their faults either. For starters, I don't really see this being brought up, but they also like to portray characters in very sexual ways as well. Particularly, male characters, with a popular means of sexualization being centered around predatorial behavior towards one of the female characters, or being a C H A D. Again, I personally don't have a particular issue with this, but just like queer sexual content, it does not belong where anyone can see it. Straight shippers also have a bad habit of calling queer shippers p*dos and perverts, even for the most inoffensive gay fan content imaginable.
With so much tension heating up between two groups, any interaction can come off as an attack even if that wasn't the intention. We queer shippers tend to get sensitive when someone has the opinion that our ship isn't real. Now sometimes we are justified in getting annoyed with these people as some of them will go out of their way to find joke posts and innocent fan art of a same-sex ship and pull that line, even though that wasn't really the point of the original post. However, even in people's own spaces when they aren't going out of their way to attack us, we still get offended. What gives? So let's take a tweet that's similar to what I'm describing:
(obviously, this is a fake image, I'm just using it to get my point across)
Now on its own, there's nothing wrong with this tweet. In general, there's nothing with this tweet. It's just showing frustration with people making every relationship a romance even if two characters only interacted for a few minutes. That's true. Shippers do enjoy pairing two people together, particularly men, who don't really interact with each other. Here's the thing though. This is an argument that's very popular and one that's been used by some not-so-well-meaning people.
Alright, it's sad people hours now, sorry sis. So for a good amount of queer people who are online or are big fans of fiction, fandom has been a big part of their lives. Shipping, in particular, holds a special place in many queer fans' hearts as, even though it's pathetic, ships were a lot of people's first exposure to genuinely queer content focused around queer characters. It would be through this shipping that a lot of people would find friends who were into the same media and fan content. Some of these people would grow up together and eventually find out that the other was queer. Some of these people would go on to have romantic relationships with each other, and because they meant because of a ship, would go on to continuously celebrate it as if it were real because part of the reason their romance is real is because of that ship. Sometimes people will hold certain ships dear to their heart because they were able to use them to not only find other people like them but explore their own sexual and romantic orientation via fan fiction and fan art.
The attachment to fictional, non-canon relationships would be met with consequences, however. A lot of people would become TOO immersed in their ship and would start to get into debates with straight shippers. Many of which were, unfortunately, homophobic or queerphobic in some way. A lot of the arguments these people would use were a lot of the arguments used today. "Said ship isn't real, you're delusional", "That wasn't the writer's intention", "Stop forcing your ship onto other people", "Two people can't be friends anymore".
It's when you look at it through this lens:
That the fake tweet above starts to look like it was trying to say something a bit different:
Now is this what the tweet is actually saying? Probably not. TityMaster69 might be someone who has faced harrasment from shippers innocently trying to vent out their feelings, but because many people with malicous intentions have said the exact same things and used it as an excuse to speak ill of queer people in fandom, it FEELS a lot more mean-spirited than it might actually be. To add to that, many malicious people have used the reactions of queer shippers as a means of giving a pass to genuine queerphobia inside fandom outside of shipping:
The screenshot ARE real this time and in are relation to this btw:
https://twitter.com/samelCamelCase/status/1382846776806412290
Now to be fair StarVolt358 did apologize to the person who retweeted the post, but the fact that they even brought it up at such an inappropriate time does still prove my point because, in a way, they did bring it up to draw less attention to the queerphobia in the KH fandom.
Stuff like this has led to queer shippers being berated and attacked by straight shippers in the community, even though in some cases they can do more damage than the people they're calling out. Let's not forget when Reylo fans doxxed and harrassed the actors because they didn't like whatever happened in the Rise of Skywalker, or when Sokai fans harrassed the voice actor SpuukyLIVE on Twitter for joking that the scene in kh2 when Sora sees Riku again was gay.
As I do not have a lot of energy, there are a lot of nuances I've missed, like many people who like queer m/m ships being straight teen girls and not actual queer people or queer people who like straight ships. This was, however, just a post to get my full thots out there. I'll shut up now.
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Alright y'all, it's ranting time! :
So who here has come across a certain creator on YouTube who goes by the name of Mari Akutsu? (I think that's how you spell their name?) Anyways, yes, I have been subbed to them for a while now, and it seems that I've come across some, well, issues surrounding their actions online. What issues? Well, it seems that they've done some extremely shitty things to a young 13-year old. This includes (alleged) doxxing, harrassment, falsely claiming that said 13-year old was stalking them, releasing an entire 530-something page document about the minor (including recordings of the minor's own voice), all because the minor in question thinks that Mari shipping adults and CHILDREN together, was weird. Some of the other things she's (allegedly) done, include drawing children in sexual situations, glorifying abuse, and shipping siblings with each other.
Let me reiterate that all the things that I have stated above are alleged, since I have no real proof of these claims. It is ok if you don't believe me, but I'm just trying to make sure that people are aware of the situation, and I don't in any way condone harrassment or death threats being sent to the individuals in this situation. And no, I don't believe that Mari is a pedophile, not without proper proof of this, but that does not change my opinions on her in a positive way. If this is really what she's done, then she's still a disgusting person nonetheless, and I don't think that she deserves a platform.
Oh, and I almost forgot to mention that she (allegedly) deleted her Twitter because of harrassment. Which is kind of hard for me to believe, just judging by her response to the situation (which I'm going to get into in a moment.) Is it possible? Yes, yes it is, and I don't want to insinuate that she hasn't been harrassed by people because of what she did. But it seems like her Twitter would be one of the best places to find proof of her bullshit, so actively deleting the account instead of just privating it, seems a bit, um, suspicious?
Now, you would think that if she was going to address what she's done, she would properly explain her actions to the fans who don't know about what she's done, and that she would properly apologize to the child she harrassed! But of course, she did NOT do this, and instead, addressed the situation without including some important information, and made herself look like the victim. (Btw apparently she's about 27 years old, so that just makes this situation even better! /s) Here are a couple screenshots of the response and her initial reaction:
I understand that it might seem like she's genuinely sorry at first, but there are some very, well, interesting, details that should be looked at. These details will be outlined in red. Feel free to ask me any questions that you might have about the situation, including why some of these details are outlined. (Sorry for my bad outlining skills, so if you want to see the full, unedited posts, you can find them on Mari's YouTube Channel. Please don't harass her though!)
Final Thoughts: Mari Akutsu was someone who I thought was genuinely cool, and I really liked her videos. But this is unacceptable, and until I can see some proof that she was innocent the entire time, I'm going to be keeping this post up in the hopes that people will start to inform others about the situation, in the hopes that we might be able to keep other minors safe, and that Mari will learn from this situation, give a proper apology, stays away from minors from now on, and become a better person! (If all of this is true, of course.) Finally, I hope that the victim is doing ok, and that people will give them more support. Thank you all for coming to my Ted Talk.
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