#I'm sad and rewatching Hawkeye

[trappper-johnathan]

The MASH time loop but it's Don't Hug Me I'm Scared style in that all the characters are stuck in the loop but they take turns being aware of it ((the phrase "passing the consciousness around like a blunt" comes to mind))

Cause there are certain episodes where it seems like some of the characters have more clarity of the situation than others. An example off the top of my head is Trapper in Mail Call with his "it's continuous" comment. Now consider his actions in that episode vs in Dr. Pierce and Mr. Hyde where he says Hawkeye is turning into a fruitcake cause of his breakdown. If you look at it through my view, his different attitude is because he's not quite aware of the time loop in Dr. Pierce and Mr. Hyde. He also has another big moment of clarity in Cease-Fire, and is the only character in that episode who is aware of the time loop. He doesn't get his hopes up cause the war isn't ending. It will continue on and on and on and they're all gonna remain right where they are.

@thebreakfastgenie has an analysis on Henry Blake knowing he's doomed to die in Abyssinia, Henry, but I also think Radar knows. Obviously he's emotional about Henry leaving, which is why he cries when they salute each other, but that last part of the episode in the OR when he comes in to break the news, it struck me as a little odd. Yes, people show their grief in different ways, but his body language and the tone of his voice kinda stuck me as...disappointment? Or at least an emotion along the lines of disappointment, almost like he was kind of resigned to it. The way his body sags and the way he says it with a sort of bone-tired sadness rather than a fresh wound makes me feel like he knew it was going to happen. Because it's happened before. And maybe that time would have been different, but no. Henry never makes it home, no matter how many times they do this. And he just... He just wishes it didn't have to be that way but it is. And he's gotta be the one who tells the others.

I think it's safe to say that Hawkeye is the one who is conscious of the time loop most often (The Late Captain Pierce is a great Hawkeye Sees It episode), but sometimes it feels like even he doesn't see it. I would say that the episodes in which he's the most out of character are the ones where the veil is thickest.

That's sort of where the DHMIS thing comes in for me, where he (or any character, really) will say/do something that makes the viewer go, "Hang on, that's not quite right." Cause when that happens it almost feels like the character is being puppeted by someone/thing, and so of course they would do something they wouldn't normally do, because it's not actually them. Now that's getting kind of deep into the time loop thing, where it's not just a strange phenomenon occurring, but instead some outside Being manually controlling the story.

You could say that the writers are the ones who keep them trapped in the time loop. You could even say it's the viewers, too! When I watched GFA and I finished crying my eyes out after Hawkeye was flown away at the end, my immediate thought was "I should rewatch the show from the beginning" and my second thought was "If I start back at the beginning, I have continued the loop and Hawkeye never makes it out of Korea." Which made me cry a little more tbh, but it also kind of made me laugh. Here I am, rooting for this tortured man to get back home and get well, and then I'm going to start back at "Korea, 1950. A hundred years ago" and put them right back where they began to suffer over again.

ANYWAY, back to what I was originally saying: they're all stuck in the time loop, and they're all aware of it but at different times and to different degrees.

[majorbaby]

decided it was as good a night as any to watch MASH (1970). i was going to take detailed notes the way i've been doing during my current rewatch of MASH (TV) but the purpose of that has been so i have stuff to refer back to when creating fanwork. about halfway through the watch i decided it wasn't worth all of that, but i did still make some notes about what i liked and didn't.

the bad

i'm starting with the bad because it had a really big effect on my experience of watching this movie. no need for bullets because it's the one thing, but the one thing is really bad: the misogyny. given, i have a very weak stomach for sexual violence on screen, particularly against women, but like, under no circumstances would i recommend this movie to anyone without a very heavy-handed content warning.

i'd been forewarned against it but i still underestimated how bad it would be. it was cruel and it left such a bad taste in my mouth i don't think i can rewatch, and if i ever do, i'd skip the offending scenes.

don't be fooled by the number of things on my "good" list. i'd trade 'em all for there to be less of the bad.

the good

genuinely touching opening credits. the MASH theme is immortal. beautiful shots of the compound. i'm gushing about it because i've worked in editing/motion graphics and i love a solid title sequence, this is one of the best i've ever seen

this movie hates christianity in general, but distinguishes catholicism from protestantism. i thought that was interesting considering MASH (TV)'s Frank is prejudiced against Catholics, something that is characteristic of a more rigid flavour of white supremacy that racializes people who would normally qualify as white (e.g. Italian and Irish Catholics). pointing out the difference tells me this movie is aware of evangelical christianity being the chief religious influence on American public policy, including foreign policy

this movie really hates the army, it could just stand to do better at hating the ideologies that prop up the army as well

hawkeye will call any man "babe" or "baby"

trapper john and his mysterious parka of assorted sundries

that's another thing. this movie is really gay, which does not absolve it of its sins

"Captain Pierce, did you call me?" "No, my name is Hawkeye"

Mclean's Henry Blake is way more likeable than movie Henry Blake, but the similarities are all there

i need to talk about the tone of this movie. so going back to the title sequence, part of the reason i like it so much is because it perfectly establishes the tone of the entire movie. larry gelbart once said that the title sequence to MASH (TV) "prepares you for what you are about to watch" and while I agree with that statement completely, I think it's doubly true of its film counterpart. there's this melancholy feeling that persists throughout the whole movie. kind of depressing tbh, despite how boisterous and silly the events on screen can get. there's a lot of mood lighting, quiet conversations. outside it's eternally overcast. when i think of it and compare it to MASH (TV) I understand why Robert Altman hated the show so much. tonally, it's completely different. when you hear the japanese cover of "happy days are here again" in the movie, it feels especially ironic, rather than lighthearted as it can be on MASH (TV). "my blue heaven" sounds even darker. but inspite of the gloom that pervades the movie, it's never quite as tragic as the objectively tragic moments on MASH (Bless You Hawkeye, GFA, Sometimes You Hear the Bullet, Guerilla My Dreams etc). the ending really nails that sad, but not too sad vibe.

once again, oliver jones is the hottest surgeon at the 4077th

elliott gould is a close second

trapper and hawkeye are in love... to everyone's peril. gay wrongs. so many gay wrongs in this movie.

did you think i was done talking about how in love trapper and hawkeye are in this? hawkeye, trapper and duke are supposed to be something of a trio in this movie, but as soon as trapper arrives duke is third-wheeling constantly. hawkeye says to trapper when he meets him, "do i know you from somewhere?" and a slow smile spreads across trapper's face later, while tossing around a football, hawkeye catches a pass from trapper and recognizes him by it as trapper does a slow walk towards hawkeye with his hands in my pockets good god, be still my piercintyre loving heart: trapper: [describing a pass] lucky your mouth wasn’t open or it would’ve got stuck in your throat hawkeye: baby! why it’s trapper john mcintyre!

we are never having the casual sex on MASH debate ever again, hawkeye settled it in this movie: (the) lieutenant dish: hawkeye, you have to remember, i’m married hawkeye: i’m married. i’m happy. i love my wife. if she was here, i’d be with her dish: i’m very happily married hawkeye: there is no question to loving anybody, it is a question of only helping.

[thelastgenderbender]

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Blog directory

So this is only my technical main (due to Tumblr Circumstances, i won't bore you) but I do actually have a lot of blogs, some of them relatively active.

@levil0vesyou is my personal/misc blog, I also sometimes call it my main even though it never was on either account

@quarks-pussy is my star trek blog, despite the url it's not 18+ or purely nsfw

@selfrighteousflowers is my cartoon blog (only cartoons aimed at younger audiences tho, adult cartoons go on the misc nowadays) and also lazytown

@dmitri-ilyich-volodin is my podcast blog (also also Cabin Pressure sometimes)

@thebitchlapin (formerly at-the-thistlespring-tree) is my Dimension 20/Dropout blog

@eating-your-beans is my NBC Community blog (and also Mythic Quest)

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@not-a-sesame-street-sideblog (added Nov 5th '23) mostly dormant (as of Aug 24th '24)

@transwomansambeckett Quantum Leap (the original one, tho theoretically the reboot would go here too if I watched it) blog (created Nov 18th '23)

@move-over-nine-its-fifteen-time Doctor Who and adjacent media (added June 23rd '24 but existed for a while, I just failed to consistently update this post)

@faggot-md House MD blog (same note as above)

@shortkingchilchuck Dungeon Meshi (same note as above)

@ghoul-for-lucys-dad-2296 Fallout, mostly show so far but I've started playing 4 now so y'know (same note as above) (mostly dormant as of Aug 24th '24 tho I'll use it again if I ever get around to playing New Vegas)

@2-dead-boys-and-1-sad-psychic Dead Boy Detectives (same note as above)

@lines-in-your-trailer Scott Pilgrim, not particularly active (same note as above)

@watchingiasiptoimpressmycrush It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia (same note as above)

@grape-flavoured-wizard I honestly don't know how to explain this one either. (same note as above) (dormant. sorry)

@your-creepy-old-guy Beetlejuice but specifically and exclusively the musical version. Not really more than two or so reblogs from other blogs of mine yet but maybe next time I rewatch my favourite slime tutorial of it I'll start posting properly (same note as above)

@hawkeye-mpreg Mash, obviously. Like the trek blog, not actually 18+ despite the url (same note as above except midnight passed in my time zone so now it's June 24th)

@lassiesloveoflarping Psych blog (added July 6th '24) and I do blame @/under-loch-n-key personally /pos

@hashtag-dads (added Oct 11th '24 after being un-shadowbanned) Dan and Phil blog because I felt it might start being annoying to my personal blog followers how often I post about them there

@fun-burakhovsky-vacation (created and added December 31st '24) Pathologic blog. I haven't finished P2 yet (and don't really plan on playing 1 tho I ofc watched hbomb's book report many times) and 3 isn't out yet but the characters have already moved into my brain rent free and I need somewhere to put posts about them

I have a ton of other side blogs, both on this and on the old account, some of them are simply saved urls, (tumblr made me delete those and then some because they think people still use this site so I'm not allowed to "hoard") some are discontinued and some are secret for a variety of reasons - though I assure you, those reasons are mostly comedy.

I don't exactly have a dni per se but if you have shitty views or I otherwise don't like you, I might block you lol

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[onekisstotakewithme]

I was tagged by my dear friend @hondagirll so thank you Steph 💜

last song: technically I was listening to 1989 TV on the way home from class today, but when I first saw this tag, the last song I'd listened to was "pure as the driven snow" from ballad of songbirds and snakes so we'll go with that.

currently reading: "An Evil Love" by Geoffrey Wansell, about Frederick and Rosemary West 😬. I'd like to say I read more during the break. I did not.

last film: oh boy. Probably Die Hard? I know I rewatched You've Got Mail recently, which I think was after that, but time is blurring together for me.

currently watching: skipping around s4 of MASH for inspiration reasons. Will (hopefully) start a west wing rewatch soon, as soon as I make up my mind on what other sorkinverse show I'll watch.

currently craving: inspiration.

currently consuming: a coffee. sadly, my first of the day.

three ships: CJ/Danny, BJ/Peg/Hawkeye, Kirk/Spock

first ship: the first ship I wrote for was an extremely rare pair from Lost (Alex/Karl)... I don't remember the first thing I shipped ever 😅 which is probably for the best since I'm sure the answer would carbon date me as on the young side.

favorite color: purple!

currently working on: "Close to the Heart" (in an epically slow fashion), along with the Seekrit Wedding Project for The West Wing. I'd like to be working on pres!CJ but :// (picking a research-intensive story to work on while also being in grad school was a bit of a silly choice, hence why it's stalled out. apologies to all my readers. I'm sad about it too).

tagging: literally anyone who feels like it!

[stevishabitat]

I never watched any of it until 2021, with the exception of the Netflix Marvel series, which weren't even considered "real MCU" at the time.

I pirated the first season of Daredevil on a friend's recommendation, but was kind of turned off by the unexpected level of violence. When I actually subscribed to Netflix a few years later, I tried it again and fell in love. Watched all three seasons plus the Defenders. Then watched Jessica Jones, and Luke Cage. (could not get into Iron Fist or the Punisher, sorry white boys)

In 2021, I literally binged the whole of the MCU so I would have context for a rumored Matt Murdock cameo in Spider-Man No Way Home.

Then watched Hawkeye because I always kind of liked the concept of the one totally non-powered guy in the Avengers who has a family back home and just seems to keep getting pulled into shit.

Subsequently, I watched the Loki series and fell hard and fast into the fandom.

I was kind of broken by season 2 of Loki and will have to prepare myself for a rewatch, but it was really excellent, just sad.

Echo was absolutely fantastic. My kiddo really enjoyed The Marvels more than most other MCU stuff (kiddo is now a major Goose fan).

So yeah, I'm showing up at the party after everyone else has left. But damn, there are still good snacks!

Just curious...

Doesn't matter your opinion of it, just pick the one you last actively decided to watch (even if you didn't finish it)

My sister and I were wondering, we know there was a huge drop off after endgame, but it's been a while since then.

[elgascreamslikehell]

How to get you're hit the hard bottom

I'm rewatching m*a*s*h

Cause yes, my autistic depressed ass can't hold anything I've watched less than thousands of times.

And that though from the nowhere.

If Henry would have stayed in Tokyo in 1x09, he won't be on that plane...

And he would stay if Hawkeye and Trapper could at least try to stand Frank Burns ...

So... The source of all sort of problems is major Frank Burns.

I mean I've been sad over this for twenty five years now what the hell

[maggicktouched]

I'd love to see Yelena like actually working in a scene where we know she's specifically utilizing her widow training. Because I cannot tell if the loveable little sister personality we all love about her is partially her personality or a complete ruse or who she actually is. I'm invoiced to think it's the last one bc the MCU isn't great at writing female spies lol. Like we as an audience were always made to feel like we knew and understood Natasha and her motives. There was zero complexity to MCU Nat. So it's probably the same for Yelena, but I'd love to see more of her doing spy things.

[nimuetheseawitch]

Hawkeye/BJ, and BJ for the character

Hawkeye/BJ| send me a ship and I will tell you:

when I started shipping it if I did: a little over a year ago during the MASH rewatch I was doing with my partner. For whatever reason, I hadn't even thought of it before then, but once I did, it was everywhere.

my thoughts: they're cute, they're stupid, they're idiots in love, and they're a hot mess. I have so many thoughts on them, and my opinions are changing constantly

What makes me happy about them: no matter if it's romantic or platonic, they really do care about each other. Their friendship isn't always healthy, but they care deeply and it shows.

What makes me sad about them: is it cheating to say the war? The whole show is sad and funny and sweet, and the sadness is kind of integral to the whole thing.

things done in fanfic that annoys me: giving BJ the emotional intelligence to figure things out on his own. I just don't think he'd get there without some sort of external help.

things I look for in fanfic: banter. BJ and Hawkeye have distinct voices, and I love when a writer gets them right. I also love pining, but that's just one of those things I've always looked for in fanfic for any fandom. Pining is my thing.

Who I’d be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: BJ/Peg and Hawkeye/Trapper. I'm also comfortable with Hawkeye ending up alone or with someone not in canon - it seems right for him. I'm also pretty down with a lot of other potential pairings for Hawkeye, but I like BJ/Peg (I also love BJ/Peg/Hawkeye).

My happily ever after for them: growing old, protesting Vietnam, providing healthcare for those in dire need through a free clinic, abortions, and HIV/AIDS care. I don't think they can come back from Korea and just do surgery - they will feel the need to make a difference.

who is the big spoon/little spoon: BJ seems like a big spoon kind of guy, but I also see Hawkeye just becoming an octopus in his sleep and then there are no spoons, just an incomprehensible tangle of limbs.

what is their favorite non-sexual activity: laughing. Anything that can make them laugh, from bad jokes to pranks. But the important part is the laughter.

BJ| Give me a character & I will tell you

One thing I wish would happen/had happened with this character in canon: I will never get over his complete failure of an apology in Period of Adjustment. He should've dealt with that shit better, and Hawkeye shouldn't have let it slide.

my OTP: Punnihawk because I want BJ with Hawkeye, but I don't want him to leave Peg.

my crossover ship: I have never considered a crossover pairing for BJ. I was mentally scrolling through shows in my head, and the one that amused me most was Wilson from House. I don't think I actually ship this, but they would be funny.

a headcanon fact: oh man, my headcanons are all over the place with BJ (and often conflicting). I guess one of my favorites is that I actually do think he lies. I think he realized that he's halfway across the world with a bunch of people he may never see again, and it's a chance to try out new things, so he lies a little because it doesn't feel like there will be any consequences. My favorite version of this would be lying to patients to try to connect with them better.

How I feel about this character: gosh I have so many feelings. I love him, I hate him, I want to pummel him with angst, I want to send him care packages that make him smile, I want him to figure his shit out and make Hawkeye happy.

All the people I ship romantically with this character: Peg, Hawkeye

My non-romantic OTP for this character: also Hawkeye

My unpopular opinion about this character: I don't know if this is unpopular, but I don't think he's gay. I used to be vehemently against this, but I've come to see the logic of the comphet/repression theory with him (and I do enjoy a Hunnicutt lavender marriage). I just don't feel it. I'm very on board with bisexual BJ.

Thanks for the ask! As always, I really enjoyed thinking about these things. Some specifics are starting to fade for me about all of my strong opinions about BJ, so it may be time for another rewatch. I think it's been almost a year now since I've done anything except watch some comfort episodes (A Night at Rosie's, my beloved).

[believerindaydreams]

so apparently instead of having a refreshing nap I am having thoughts about Why I Don't Rewatch The M*A*S*H finale

cut for thoughts that are quite dark but not more so than the actual show? idk

cos it's like. We have all this Hawkeye angsting and sadness and whatnot when it's like. this is not even remotely your story. it's the mother's story. how dare you sit there with a martini getting mental counseling about a horror that isn't even yours

and it's not quite Hollywood's fault- they are throwing up their hands, admitting "we cannot push the limits of the Other any further. We don't know any more than you do. We just make pictures."

And like, that's maddening.

but also I only half believe the story, I half think that Hawkeye sat there and smothered a baby because it doesn't quite follow even at the end

and I'm angry with that version of the story as well, because one of the truths of colonialism and occupation is that it makes the victims do terrible things, and that's too stark a truth

And then I think about eleven years of this show and Hawkeye being aware of it on a certain kind of level that the regulars like Margaret simply Do Not Notice and it's like a morality tale, a story of Job's patience, where a doctor kills a baby to make this terrible war end and it finally ends but his hands will never be clean again

and I don't like that story either

which brings us to Charles' subplot and the culmination where he smashes the record because this is all so, so pointless

and I don't know what to do with any of this

except write a Tumblr post apparently

[hhawkeye]

*chanting* mash! blorbos! now! mash! blor-

alright. so so so many people sent me this. here we go

blorbo (favorite character, character I think about the most): you think it's gonna be hawkeye, right? wrong. it's trapper. every day of my life i think about trapper and what would have happened had he been part of the later seasons and had some more Character Moments. i dont think there would have been room for both him and bj in the show of course and despite popular belief i would not get rid of bj for Anything, but i do think about trapper and what potential was there for a deeper dive into his characterisation and motivations tbh. in a technical sense bj does fulfill more of the blorbo characteristics but when i think about him its with malice in my heart

scrunkly (my “baby”, character that gives me cuteness aggression, character that is So Shaped): honestly idk if there is one! if we're talking aggression obviously bj but it's not about him being cute. however he is Shaped. sometimes hawkeye makes me like my god i need to crawl into the tv and wrap a warm blanket around him but other times. Well. Anyway,

scrimblo bimblo (underrated/underappreciated fave): again i dont know that there are many characters who are underappreciated on mash (or at least within the mash circles i am in bc i follow correct smart people) but honestly i was thinking about how early seasons margaret really is like... not underrated but whenever someone just starts watching the show and theyre like, oh hot lips, and i have to take a second to be like... who? not that i forget they call her that, but i forget they pretty much only call her that, and i honestly think she really Isn't That Bad in early seasons, and i love her growth throughout the series, but so does everyone obviously. remember the talent show when she sings my blue heaven. i love her. i really really love her and she does on many levels stand up for what (she feels) is right and she has lessons to learn of course but i love the moments where you get a glimpse of who she'll be in later seasons and it makes me so <3 idk. it might just be because i rewatched so recently but i have a lot of feelings for early seasons margaret and i think she's a really interesting character tbh

glup shitto (obscure fave, character that can appear in the background for 0.2 seconds and I won’t shut up about it for a week): i feel like spam lamb really is my glup shitto in every single possible way and thats fine. that's fine.

poor little meow meow (“problematic”/unpopular/controversial/otherwise pathetic fave): hes not problematic unpopular or controversial unless youre a right wing freak but the ONLY answer for this is of course hawkeye. the man the myth the legend. THEE poorest little meow meow on the planet. he literally could be the original poor little meow meow. are there any characters so unbelievably sad and pathetic that precede him? i dont know

horse plinko (character I would torment for fun, for whatever reason): haha umm nobody because im normal and wouldnt torment people for fun, unlike some people who i wont name 🙂🙂🙂

eeby deeby (character I would send to superhell): genuinely ok this is mean and i know there are definitely worse people but my answer for this is potter. i just dont love the guy. he's FINE and he has great moments but every time he gets on some high horse about something i'm like yeah but you're a career army man though soooo. i love harry morgan and think he plays him well but i just cannotttttt get behind potter as like. A Guy. i think there was potential there for an interesting and compelling story about yknow joining the army young and being manipulated and used by it but i dont think late season mash was in a place where it could outright be like hey fuck the military. so

[icameheretowinry]

So, as someone who also loves MASH (watched it in syndication and bought the whole series on DVD), so you have like a top 5 favorite episode or moments? If so, what are they? And how did you feel about the finale? I have been told that my dad did not like the finale and some old family friends also said it wasn't... Good. Me? I'm conflicted. I do see the pros and cons of what happens but you might be the only generational peer I know. So your opinion means a lot to me.

Wow! I was not expecting this ask, but I’m so glad you sent it. To be honest, it’s been a couple years since I sat down and rewatched the whole series chronologically, but I think I remember it enough to answer your question. (That, and I went through each episode summary to jog my memory.) 

I decided to go with my top 5 favorite episodes. (Specific moments just felt too… specific?) These opinions have definitely changed over the years, and they may change when I watch the show again, but for now, they’re as follows: 

Season 1, Episode 17: Sometimes You Hear The Bullet

This was the first episode I remember seeing Hawkeye vulnerable. Some later episodes with Sidney attempt to dive into his mind when strange reactions arise, but they always felt a bit forced in my opinion. This episode, on the other hand, was simple, yet devastating. Colonel Blake’s quote sums it up perfectly: “There are certain rules about a war. Rule number one is that young men die. And rule number two is, doctors can’t change rule number one.” This episode really sets the tone for the whole series. There’s going to be a lot of humor, but we’re not going to let you forget where these characters are. 

Season 4, Episode 18: Hawkeye

This episode was masterfully written. Hawkeye gets in an accident, and then must talk constantly to the Korean family who takes him in, in order to stay conscious. It’s the only episode of a sit-com I can recall is entirely a monologue, yet it never feels boring. Hawkeye’s character is at the forefront with his humor, but always in the background is his intelligence and concern for his wellbeing. It’s an episode that truly showcases both sides of his character in a way that is both natural, and funny enough, entertaining. 

Season 4, Episode 24: The Interview

I must say that the atmosphere of this show is always perfect, but this episode was especially so. Shot in black and white, it really doesn’t feel like anyone is truly acting when the journalist interviews the cast of characters from the 4077th. It seems like it’s more of a documentary segment than an episode of a military sit-com. As someone who comes from a journalistic background, I now appreciate the unique writing in this episode more so than I did when I was young. MASH was all about unique episode formats, and this is one of its best examples. 

Season 9, Episode 5: Death Takes A Holiday

I’m not a crier, but this episode did it for me. As funny and serious about political/societal issues as this show was (many of which are still very relevant today), sometimes, things were just supposed to be sad, because that’s the way things were. The moment Hawkeye stood up and changed the hands of the clock, I lost it. It’s a gesture that speaks more than any dialogue in the episode, but it completely broke my heart. Mike Farrell’s writing/directing talent really showed in this episode. 

Season 11, Episode 5: Who Knew?

Like the first episode I mentioned, this is another where the audience gets a “surprising” amount of humility, vulnerability, and honesty out of Hawkeye. It’s a heartbreaking realization to some that someone could be so rich on the inside, yet never share it. Not judging others based on many circumstances is a theme upheld throughout the show, but this is really the first episode where it forces the 4077th to look at themselves a little more closely. As it turns out, someone they perceived as distant, was actually in awe of their work, and unfathomably kind. Just a little shy. Hawkeye admits that’s he’s like her, but openly shares with those he cares about just how much so. It doesn’t feel forced, cheesy, or weighted. It feels like honesty, showing through the wisecracks. 

Honorable Mentions:

Season 1 Episode 2: To Market, To Market

Season 3 Episode 5: O.R.

Season 3 Episode 11: Adam’s Ribs

Season 4 Episode 4: The Late Captain Pierce

Season 6 Episode 7: In Love And War

Season 6 Episode 15: The Smell Of Music

Season 7 Episode 10: Point Of View

Season 7 Episode 20: CAVE

Season 8 Episode 11: Life Time

I know a lot of these episodes are more serious or deviant from the normal structure, but I just want to stay that I love all the humor, but these are moments that stick out to me. 

The Finale: 

To be honest, the first time I saw the finale as an adult (about 4 years ago), I thought it was perfect. In retrospect, maybe as someone older, more cynical, more critical, more observant, or more of whatever else, I do see its flaws. Hawkeye’s breakdown is described but never shown. Hawkeye is belligerent, as was his character, but it seems overdone. BJ’s grand goodbye also came across as very cheesy. 

However, I love the idea that Hawkeye finally hit his breaking point, because it was a long time coming. It could’ve been executed so much better, but the lead up to it was FLAWLESS. I just wish the aftermath was better. BJ and Hawkeye were close, and shared many vulnerable moments, but I think leaving it at a huge and wave would’ve been best. (Even though the message looked good to viewers.) 

In short, I’m also conflicted about the finale. I think there are aspects of it that could’ve been done better, and some that were incredible. But ultimately, there’s a reason 106 million people tuned in to watch it. This show had a special place in a lot of people’s hearts, so no matter how the writers chose to end it, I think that’s the most important thing, that it meant something to people. 

Ngl, I’d be a liar if I said I didn’t get emotional every time I watched that “goodbye” fade away with the iconic series music. 

I really hope this answered your question(s), and that I did this masterpiece of a show some justice. 

THANK YOU for this ask! 

[illuminannietv]

for those of you who haven't seen the new hawkguy show on disney plus, this is from that

It is not a new starkid musical which was my first thought, and now i'm sad and want to rewatch that batman superman thing, which is the only valid superhero media (besides thor ragnorak)

ROGERS: The Musical

[khrim2213]

what's the fucking wrong with me??

on Jan.1st.2021 I spend whole afternoon and night to rewatch captain America Ⅲ, the avengers infinity war and endgame.

now it should be a time to sleep,and I just couldn't calm down,my entire mind just immersed in great grief.

oh there is AT LEAST ONE THING made me happy:Loki get the tessract and ran away.

anyway,can't sleep.

I'm sorry that it took me two years to seriously think about the next direction of mcu.

OK I haven't really think about this thing:I actually noticed that in the end of the endgame movie,there wasn't any word about"the avengers will come back"

Let's sort it out. The first Avengers,Tony dead,cap gets old,Thor traveled with star-lord,nat dead,hulk hurts one arm,hawkeye live with his family.

it seems that there are no "avengers"anymore😭(I know that's sad)but there is still some "super-heros",like Peter,Dr Strange,Sam,bucky and so on...And the first Avengers also had the desire to pass it on(cap passed his shield to Sam)so maybe marvel wants to start a new series just like"avengers",but different from them(?)

or there is no AVENGERS anymore.

The process of searching for the original stone is like connecting some basic fragments of Marvel in the past ten years,for us.

like,they helped us to memory,and told us it's time to say goodbye...

btw it seems like that bucky already knows Steve would stay at pass and spend the rest of his life with Peggy...and I heard that in agent carter series there is another man who fall in love with her...(that's complicated)

actually if Dr Strange,Peter,Sam,bucky,wanda,antman,T'Challa and others composition the second generation of The Avengers,I would love to see that,but I think they(directors or sb. else)wouldn't allow...

They dug too many holes,they didn't fill up,but dig more.

I knew that people should always look forward,but I just,I mean in the time period which my childhood and teen memory,they are the whole meaning of "superheroes".

I just don't want them die and disappear from peoples' memory like this.

what a sad night without sleep...

and maybe I should rewatch The AvengersⅠandⅡtomorrow...

don't worry,

*still looking forward for TFATWS and Loki series*

[nimuetheseawitch]

going real basic here but: Mash, Hawkeye/BJ, Hawkeye

001 | MASH

Favorite character: tonight, it's Father Mulcahy (other nights it's Klinger)

Least Favorite character: Zale

5 Favorite ships (canon or non-canon): Charles/Donna, Punnihawk, Klinger casually with everyone (specifically Trapper and Henry), and Klinger/Soon Lee (these are just my top 5 today - I love so many of the available ships)

Character I find most attractive: Margaret

Character I would marry: Donna

Character I would be best friends with: Hawkeye

a random thought: Klinger is so great, and I keep on thinking about Klinger and maybe he's actually my favorite now...

An unpopular opinion: BJ isn't gay (I don't actually know if this is unpopular, but he loves his wife AND Hawkeye)

My Canon OTP: Klinger/Soon Lee

My Non-canon OTP: BJ/Hawkeye

Most Badass Character: Mulcahy

Most Epic Villain: Flagg

Pairing I am not a fan of: Charles/Klinger - I could probably enjoy it, but currently not a fan (I don't have any feelings on it really)

Character I feel the writers screwed up (in one way or another): They didn't give Margaret nearly enough for so long. Eventually she got more, but she never got enough.

Favourite Friendship: Margaret and Hawkeye

Character I most identify with: Hawkeye. It's cliché, but he's a main character who we can all enjoy projecting onto.

Character I wish I could be: None of them. God, they're all miserable.

002 | Hawkeye/BJ

When I started shipping them: Honestly, not consciously until like my 10th rewatch. And then it was pretty much immediately. That double-take in Welcome to Korea

My thoughts: Do you want me to write an essay? I have so many thoughts that I've written more words about them than I wrote in my Master's thesis (technically - I may have more words in my thesis if you include my appendices of code. There were so many lines of code...)

What makes me happy about them: right now, when they get all excited about research together. They get all nerdy and study and are all cute, and then they build a kidney machine from the Sears catalog.

What makes me sad about them: so much. They are fundamentally tragic, and it's part of why I love them.

Things done in fanfic that annoys me: cavalier divorce with Peg. Divorce was way harder in the 50s. People would move to Reno for 6 weeks in order to speed it up. And it would be safer in a lot of ways for them to stay married. But also I totally get it. It's not a terrible shortcut.

Things I look for in fanfic: banter

My wishlist: what does this even mean?

Who I’d be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: BJ could end up with Peg, but I like him ending up alone. If Hawkeye ended up with anyone from the show, it could be Trapper. I'm also happy with him ending up with someone else entirely. I want him to to be happy.

My happily ever after for them: there are a lot of options, but I'd love them to open up a San Francisco clinic that serves the queer community.

003 | Hawkeye

How I feel about this character: I love him, he's complicated, he has so many problems, and I want to torture him and comfort him.

Any/all the people I ship romantically with this character: BJ, Peg, Trapper, Klinger (former - I like them best as exes who have formed a queer support network), that one guy who goosed him in that season 1 episode, Tommy, sometimes Mulcahy, honestly everyone ever.

My favorite non-romantic relationship for this character: Klinger! Their friendship is pure and perfect (except for when Hawkeye's an ass about Klinger's swag decorating the office)

My unpopular opinion about this character: I honestly don't think I have an unpopular opinion about him.

One thing I wish would happen/had happened with this character in canon: I wish he had kissed a man other than Frank.

Favorite friendship for this character: Margaret

My crossover ship: I have never thought of any crossover ships. But he will hit on anyone, and no one is good enough for him.

[thebreakfastgenie]

I don't even know anymore the rules don't mean anything I just want to talk about all of these. But I think I consider the canon of Designated Hawkeye Pierce Mental Breakdown Episodes to be, like, Dr. Pierce and Mr. Hyde, Hawk's Nightmare, Bless You, Hawkeye, and GFA. So you're good.

Fallen Idol is so good but I cannot bring myself to rewatch it because everyone yelling at Hawkeye just makes me sad. I know he crossed some lines but also I feel like no one really notices that he blames himself for Radar getting hurt and is spinning out about it. And it's not like he was without points.... "people look up to you" so he's just supposed to?? Be responsible for everyone's morale??

Also side note about Fallen Idol I guess Alan Alda (in addition to hitting the Hawkeye/Radar relationship with a hammer for fun) was like, wow they drink all the time, what if one of them drank too much and couldn't do surgery, which like. Okay but it raises more questions than it answers, Alan. Hawkeye does not appear drunker in Fallen Idol than any other Hawkeye gets wasted episode. Anyway.

The towel snap/punch is House Arrest and yeah!!!! Yeah!! There's something there. Genuinely amazed he lands that punch because every time he threatens to hit someone I'm like you have the build of wet linguine. The problem with House Arrest is it's one of those earlier episodes with a hmmmmmm B plot that ties into the resolution of the A plot, but the Hawkeye punching Frank bit is so. Like yeah Frank had it coming but the fact that he actually crossed that line and that the last straw was that towel snap. And iirc he looks super tired in that scene like he's just done.

The naked walk in Dear Dad is one of those early season things that's like. It's just sitcom antics when it happens, but then the show goes on and you get to know more about Hawkeye and you're like wait. And then he just lays it all out in the Interview. The Interview as a breakdown episode is like... this is very legit take, but I think of The Interview as a category of its own. Most of the breakdown episodes are about something happening to make him Worse so he's not able to control/hide his issues. The Interview is very explicitly Hawkeye describing, when asked, what things are like on a regular basis. With the Interview it's just him admitting it's always this bad, this is the baseline.

I'm getting (wonderful! but) predictable answers on that post so here's another question. What's your favorite Hawkeye Pierce mental breakdown that's not a Designated Hawkeye Pierce Mental Breakdown Episode? Like, Depressing News, Peace On Us, etc.