#I'm playing The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles

[tgd-sideblog]

Lmao at Ryunosuke going to trial in 2:3 knowing basically jack shit about the events related to his case because he dedicated the majority of the investigation segment to seeking out personal gossip about Van Zieks

[owlphaace]

Oh so Capcom managed to make a protagonist of an ace attorney game who is even more imcompetent than Phoenix Wright?

This is painful

[alynnl]

Maybe I just haven't gotten far enough in TGAAC but I noticed a contradiction... (Spoilers ahead)

I'm talking about The Reaper's Curse again because I noticed how the story has changed around it, gradually.

At first, it seems like Barok van Zieks has such a high conviction rate (getting a lot of people condemned to death) - but when you get McGilded acquitted, he gets killed anyways because literally anyone who is on the dock against Van Zieks is marked for death.

Fast forward to the final case of the first Chronicles game. It's revealed that neither Van Zieks or some supernatural entity surrounding him killed McGilded. Ashley Graydon did it completely on his own as an act of revenge. He saw an opportunity for murder and took it.

But despite this logical explanation (along with a later conversation Ryunosuke has with Van Zieks about the identity of the Reaper that points to the criminal underworld targeting their rivals and blaming the chalice-hurling prosecutor) - the Reaper's Curse is still looked at as paranormal. And the only way to escape it is to leave London (or rather, England itself.)

It's all very strange.

To me it's like if someone's home was apparently being haunted by a ghost, and they were seeing and hearing things that weren't there. Then they went out to buy a carbon monoxide detector and heard it beeping, but still believed a ghost was causing the problem and moved to a brand new place the next day.

Was Soseki truly in danger being in court twice against Van Zieks, so he had no choice but to go back home?

Is Inspector Gregson correct thinking Gina is in danger too? Is the surprise trip he's planning to France justified?

And...since I read spoilers, does Professor Harebrayne really have to go back to studying in Germany?

Those three aren't part of the criminal underworld, so it doesn't add up.

I'm still banking heavily on the "long con" and "someone setting up Barok to fall as part of a Big Master Plan" theories, and wonder how close I am to the truth.

It might be a while before I reach it though...

[fishylife]

should i give detective layton another shot

[kirchefuchs]

I've finally started playing The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles at my sister's insistence, and I'm loving every bit of it.

Anyways, here's a meme I definitely didn't finish drawing at 3 am last night :]

[jamorbital]

Mailbag III ✉️

Wow, there were a bunch this time. Thanks everyone!

@theloramir:

Me! 😷

If that doesn't count… Hmm. Cynthia from Pokémon? Or maybe Tifa?

@scout90-again:

I've been interested in it for as long as I can remember. Even when I was really little, I liked to tie up dolls with string and put pieces of tape on their mouths. A bit more on that in an earlier ask here.

(MORE UNDER THE CUT)

@noteverysaurisadinosaur:

Uhhh... I'm gonna say... Golden Toad. I like Dodos too, but I'm guessing that's the "everything but country and rap" of this question.

@directivexero:

Aw thanks!

Lately I've been slowly making my way through The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles! I play it in bed each night to settle in before I go to sleep. It's like a good book. The fickleness of the jurors always makes me laugh.

Another recent one I liked: Thank Goodness You're Here! It's basically a little interactive animated movie. Matt Berry is in it. I once saw it described as "Untitled Twat Game"

Deadly Premonition is the worst game I've ever played by conventional standards, but I'd still recommend it because it's bad in really fun ways. Bring some friends and a case of beer.

I like games that provoke a strong reaction. I'd rather play something like DP than a "good" big-budget game that's smooth and pleasing but not all that memorable.

Also on the topic of weird games: This is the secret best channel on YouTube. The more you watch, the better it gets. I mean idk, maybe other people don't see it and I'm just deranged. Still though. I've cried laughing at some of these.

@patientbard:

Summer! Lots of happy memories from childhood. I like to swim.

@nixalegos:

I don't often try to go for a specific texture, but when I do it can be tricky. In real life I love soft jersey knit fabric. Despite my best efforts, I haven't been able to nail it in 2D in a way that really scratches that kinky itch.

In general, my drawings rarely come out the way I pictured them in my head. (I think that's how it is for most artists?) If it's looking really off then I might redraw a character or body part from scratch, but for the most part I just go with the flow.

@accretion-disk-anxiety:

To eat, crab; to not eat, turtle.

@damianblack:

I'm not really into furries, but I like furries as people. They seem like fun and I admire how welcoming and liberated their community is.

For a while I've had "draw an anthro character" on my bucket list. I think it'd be a fun challenge and drawing a gag for an anthro snout could be hot tbh.

@onidrills:

What was that thing from Jurassic Park with the big neck thing and the venom? Dilophosaurus?

Aw man...

@goodboynijian:

Thank you!

For proudest: Maybe animation loops?

They're not as elaborate as some other stuff I've done, but seeing an animation come together just feels so satisfying.

For hottest: I gravitate toward a certain weirder type of piece where I draw myself (or "myself") with super-exaggerated proportions and/or humiliating captions:

It feels exciting to just go totally off the wall. I get turned on not just by drawing these, but also posting them. I guess it's kind of a public humiliation/exhibitionism thing. (Actually, that's exactly what it is.)

I used to put them up on Twitter, but it got a little too weird and embarrassing. Now I keep them behind the safety of the paywall.

@t-oppenheimer:

Smash if that counts! I used to attend locals weekly and was decently competitive at my peak. I stopped going in 2020 due to covid and never got back into it after that. I still play with friends here and there though. I'm a Wolf main. 🐺

I've also done a little SF6, but I'm still in The Cursed Zone on that one.

@microfoamgaglover:

Yes

(old pic!)

Thanks again to everyone who sent in questions! I'm feeling better now than I was this morning. If I didn't respond to you, it just means I couldn't think of anything interesting to say. I appreciate it all the same.

[rivalsforlife]

Ace Attorney 456 Tokyo Game Show Information Masterpost

Since I haven't seen all the information collected in one place, this post SHOULD be a comprehensive review of everything revealed today - though please let me know if I missed anything important.

New Trailer and Release Date

We got a new trailer for the 456 collection, which covers (most of) what I'm going to say in this post, and a release date of January 25, 2024!

New Features

Language Support: These games are now available in seven languages: Japanese, English, French, German, Korean, and Traditional and Simplified Chinese, along with voice dubs for each of these. These are some of the first times some of the games (in particular 5 and 6) are officially translated to many of these languages.

DLC: The previously DLC-exclusive cases Turnabout Reclaimed and Turnabout Time Traveler will be added to the game for free, along with previously DLC-exclusive costumes. You can dress up Phoenix in the Tigre outfit from the beginning!

QOL: As well, any of the quality of life features from the Great Ace Attorney Chronicles have been added to the 456 collection. This includes an episode/chapter select unlocked from the start, so you can skip straight to your favorite sections, autoplay and story mode, and a backlog/history to review recent text.

Art Gallery: The game will also include an "art gallery" which includes concept art for the games. This will also include special artworks commissioned exclusively for this collection, some of which are unlocked after beating each game and unlocking each trilogy.

Orchestra Hall: There is also an "orchestra hall" where you can listen to what seems to be the full soundtrack for all three games (though I haven't verified this), along with orchestral tracks from the 15th anniversary and 2019 orchestra concerts.

There are also two new "trilogy exclusive" songs: "Apollo Justice - A New Era Begins! 2024", and "Trucy's Theme - Bring It In, Everyone". The new "a new era begins" remix might possibly be what they're playing in the trailer. "Bring It In, Everyone" is distinct from Trucy's main theme, "Child of Magic" (listed earlier in the soundtrack list), so I have no idea what that one will be like.

Animation Studio: This new feature allows you to play around with character models, setting up different backgrounds and sprites and settings, to create whatever scene you want. This doesn't seem to have a text feature, so it just seems kind of like a worse objection.lol but with 3D sprites. (Although I'm sure the objection.lol people will find a way to rip the models in like... five minutes of the game's release)

Preorder Information

It seems we overseas people will only have the collection available digitally, but Japan seems to have physical copies along with a lot of preorder bonuses! You can find the official page here.

This includes the following:

Game Software: You can order this standalone, or with the other preorder goods, or seemingly just the goods on their own without the software included.

Original Drama CDs: Two new drama CDs are being developed for this collection! As far as I can tell, one involves the Gavinners attempting a one-night-only revival of the band (which goes poorly...), and the second involves Taka fleeing the courtroom.

Evidence and Items Set: This includes ten pieces of evidence available from the games, along with some original illustrations. As can be seen above, this includes things like the photo of Apollo and Clay from Dual Destinies, six ID photos of major characters, and a signed poster of Klavier.

As well, a new sleeve box drawn by Takuro Fuse, the character designer for 5 and 6.

That should cover everything, but please let me know if I missed any news!

[r3d-d34th]

I hate how my parents and I recommend books and shows to each other- not for a serious reason, but because there will be things like Persona 5 and The Great Ace attorney that I KNOW they'd love if only they weren't video games. Like, I know you will love this story. I know you will love these characters. But It is impossible to get anyone over 40 with a salary to play a video game. And the p5 anime sucks ass.

I wish there was an anime adaptation (A GOOD ONE) for the Great Ace Attorney Chronicles. Please. My mom will love the mystery and My dad will love Herlock sholmes, he's basically the 11th doctor. PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU.

[cyanrendipity]

Since I was done with Yakuza and I've really been in a gaming mood I started playing The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles (which apparently I bought in 2022 and never played)

And it's so cute!!!!! I love Ryunosuke, the character animations are all amazing! I love how much personality there is in how they move, the fucking weak table slams and the wide eyes darting around <3

I love Ace Attorney, if I'm still in this gaming mood when I'm done with this one I might go back and finish the others, I think I stopped on first third of Dual Destinies? Pretty sure I lost that save file tho

[spadedarmor]

HELPPPPPP!! I JUST BEAT THE TRILOGY AND IM GONNA START PLAYING THE GREAT ACE ATTORNEY CHRONICLES!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAA I LOVED THE TRILOGY SO MUCHHH!!!!

From the beginning, my favorite character was already Miles.... Then, moving forward, I learned more and more about him. Really, about all of them. I'm never going to get over how amazing these games are. Starting with the character development to just the concept as a whole.

These games will forever be in my mind. I had so much fun playing and just the anticipation of it was exhilarating. My family can agree that I would stay up until like 4 AM just to beat a case.

Ace Attorney is just awesome. I really recommend it to others. It's such a good mystery game. It's so hard to explain to people though because it's a game about lawyers 😭

For people wondering, I'm going to be playing Apollo Justice soon. I was told to wait to buy it, so we'll see what happens at my birthday party.... 😁

Thank you Capcom for this amazing game series with such amazing characters!

All I'd like to say as a conclusion is...

[inspector-montoya-fox]

You know sometimes i like using my tumblr as like a brain rot bank? Like a time capsule for thoughts and opinion that cater to no one but everyone is welcome to enjoy and partake. And today i'll be doing just that because i have finally finished The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles. If you've been following me for a while you know that this is lowkey monumental because (a) it means that i have officially played all Ace Attorney games, and (b) i have been struggling to finish these two games since their bundled release three years ago. So, i just wanted to share some general thoughts, some tier lists, and feel free to let me know what you think if you read what i have to say!

Ok so, my main takeaway from playing the two games is that... Dr Courtney Sithe is a bad bitch deserving of the same praise as Franziska, Lana Skye, Justine Courtney, Dee Vasquez and Calisto Yew. I genuinely love her so much. Miss Buttplug Hair got her PhD in being a girlboss and i'm so upset she was only in one case. For such a cool character with an amazing design, she was criminally underdeveloped. Same goes for my other fav, Rei Membani. Soon as it was mentioned that Professor Mikotoba and Judge Jigoku were on their way to the UK, i was one hundred percent sure she'd accompany them, and i was ultimately disappointed. To have her right next to Susato on the game's cover art and give her such an amazing takedown of Raiten Menimemo... and then just not have her be anywhere else was such a shame. I need more Dr Sithe and Rei !

The rest of the games' characters were a bit of a mixed bag with some obvious (and some unexpected) stand-outs. Here's my tier list:

Notes:

The biggest surprise that came when i was making this is how high i placed Herlock. I started off hating him so much and then he just suddenly grew on me so quickly, i hadn't even noticed. One of my favourites for sure.

I think we can all collectively agree that we have, at some point in our lives, embodied Pop Windibank... poor guy...

I don't know what Kazuma's deal is. He starts off as Ryunosuke's Mia Fey before um... just becoming a jerk? Why does he have beef with his best friend who was literally mourning him for almost a year? Can't lie though, the bitch looks hot in his white uniform.

Some of the jurors made a bigger impression than actual characters/ witnesses, just by having cool designs. Mainly the green lady, who rightfully earned her spot in the third tier after i found out she's supposed to be a reincarnation of the teacher from PLvsPW !

Eggert Benedict or whatever the fuck that rich breakdancing asshole is called, cannot be a final villain i'm sorry. Seriously, what were they thinking?

The two redheads are such a shameless rip-off of the Skulkins. Two ruffians taking the witness stand for the game's climax AGAIN !? And during the credits, they pose in their prison cell with "Gossip" in the middle the exact same way Eggert and the Skulkins did in the credits of Adventures, like no thank you.

I love how my overall bottom 3 are an annoying str*ight couple and a child.

If Stronghart wasn't in the second (very coveted) tier, he'd be in the bottom of 'like !' because he was ok. It's blatantly obvious he's the big bad from the second he's introduced but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Also, i need him and Damon Gant to have a fat titty bounce-off.

Moving on to criticisms, i can't help but feel like the fact that Shu Takumi decided to split his original script into two games only served to hurt the entire project. Because, for starters, each game has a different feel and the two don't match. Adventures is reminiscent of PLvsPW, Takumi's whimsical and eccentric love letter to the UK that hinges heavily on exposition. Resolve, on the other hand, is a bit of a mix between its predecessor and traditional Ace Attorney, its cases focusing more on driving the narrative to its conclusion rather than experimenting on the classic formula (as with the first game). It also echoes aspects of the first Investigations, bringing in diplomatic immunity, international relations, "tracking down and going against the head of the evil organisation" (the Reaper storyline is very similar to the Yatagarasu one). Personally the two vibes don't mesh, even when Resolve tries to latch onto Adventures with Memoirs of the Clouded Kokoro, for example.

Then, the pacing in both games is all over the place. Adventures is just so unreasonably and unashamedly long-winded and slow, it's the reason it took me literally three years to get into it. The game repeats the same lines of dialogue again and again until they're made painfully clear, subsequently making the player (or at least me) feel like an idiot who needs to read the same thing 13 times in order to get it. This, coupled with the fact that actual gameplay was almost nowhere to be seen and that progression in the courtroom almost always relied on not pointing out inconsistencies but pressing the witnesses adjacent to the one testifying, made the game such a slog to get through. And once the game started to pick up, it was over before i even knew it and in a very unceremonious fashion no less. In comparison, Resolve is very streamlined, albeit a bit too fast-paced. With the exception of Memoirs, which felt like shameless filler, it's clear that they wanted to waste zero time and crammed so much stuff into the episodes, to the point where it became difficult to keep track of everything going on. Because, keep in mind, the second game was tasked with tying up all the loose threads from the first one.

This leads to my final criticism regarding the split: inconsistencies and unresolved mysteries. I think it reads as careless writing when questions keep sprouting everywhere and their answers are reserved for the final two episodes of the second game. Even Unspeakable, a final case, introduces mysteries tied to the overarching narrative just for them to be shelved until Twisted Karma, leaving the player with a sense of dissatisfaction when the game ends. Not only is it frustrating to keep track of all the unsolved mysteries, a chore which good writing would not expect from the player, but it also has you questioning whether or not some of them will get answered at all. Why was the selection of jurors obviously rigged? Why did Van Zieks stop appearing in court five years prior? Where did he lose his gun in Twisted Karma? Why didn't Stronghart assassinate Madame Tusspells as well? Why is Kazuma fully exonerated after admitting to his involvement in the assassin exchange? I grouped the unresolved mysteries with inconsistencies as one problem because the latter is a result of the former. The majority of mysteries spills over from the first game to the second, giving way to different phrasing, details getting glossed over and the plot's consequences getting ignored. There's a very apparent shift in Gregson's character, for example, going from uncooperative and rigid in Adventures to more forgiving and helpful in Resolve, all the while his misconduct from Unspeakable is seemingly forgotten and met with zero ramifications. There's also the government's secret message about the assassin exchange Herlock deciphered at the end of the first game, which sets up the second game nicely but then doesn't get mentioned until the very last day in court. Like, come on now. It feels like Resolve continues Adventures' story without wanting to acknowledge it because, in the grand scheme of things, McGilded and Eggert Benedict seem to not matter at all. And then there's Memoirs, which... Inconsistency City, honestly. This episode's lack of impact on the overall story allowed it to be literally anything else. It's such a bizarre choice to have it be something which only achieves in taking away from the first Clouded Kokoro case! Like ok, i can get behind it being a case no one wanted to talk about so it didn't make the first game. I can turn a blind eye to the inconsistent character development and timeline, whatever. But it absolutely drives me nuts that, for an Ace Attorney game where the murders are explained in full detail, they couldn't stay consistent with the direction Olive Green was walking in. Hate. Loathe. Get it away from me.

That pretty much covers it in terms of complaints, because otherwise i enjoyed my playthrough quite a bit actually. I know i've just spent like 3 mega-sized paragraphs complaining but the games have great elements as well. The Deduction dances are easily the best thing about the gameplay, especially when you didn't see them coming. They were so much fun to play, very animated and cartoony with amazing banter, and effortlessly accelerated the investigation segments. Equally, i loved Judicial Findings. Undoubtedly my favourite part of the courtroom sections and a welcome change of pace. I tended to stall a lot because the jury's music fucks so hard. While on the topic of what i liked, Ryunosuke and Susato's chemistry rivals what Phoenix and Maya have going on. Susato leaving at the end of Adventures was a genuinely effective point in the plot, even though i knew she'd be back.

Now, let's take a closer look at the episodes. Here's my overall tier list of all Ace Attorney cases, the Great Ace Attorney ones being highlighted in yellow:

Notes:

Blossoming Attorney gobbled the rest of the girls right up (a court-only episode, no less). They gave us Susato gameplay, what more can you ask for? An amazing case. Gay Women in STEM !!

Return kinda strikes a nice balance between the different feels of the two games i mentioned before. You've got exposition and world-building with the whole Great Exhibition, turn of the century mad science thing, but also classic Ace Attorney with tracking down Drebber (very Matt Engarde's apartment) and Madame Tusspells as just some witness (very Lisa Basil). A very fun case right before the clusterfuck of mysteries ensues. Also, Dr Courtney Sithe !!!!! Girl you're such a star and you don't even know it spit in my mouth

Was tempted to put Unspeakable in the second tier but i think it's earned its high placement on its own merit and not because of personal bias. It's a great case. Maybe not for a final one, but it's still great. It tries its hardest to tie up some loose ends before the game ends and that's worth something.

Resolve of Ryunosuke is objectively better than Twisted because i could not give less of a fuck about the purple guy's headache and Espella Cantabella selling firecrackers, but they're both very much one single package. Extra points to Resolve of Ryunosuke though for having its villain sit at the judge's seat. That was neat.

The two Clouded Kokoros are giving stinky Bri ish culture with the whole apartment building background, like Ribena, bad teeth, rusty Union Jack, horseshit breath at the pub, you awrite luv? Slander, i'm sorry.

Slightly unrelated but when i was making this tier list it became so obvious that Investigations 2 is the crown jewel of the franchise. Like it has two cases in the top 5, how can you even argue against that?

Arriving to a conclusion, i'd say both games belong on the same level as Apollo Justice: a blend of good and bad. My experience playing the Ace Attorney franchise has followed this trend of attaching each game to a pivotal moment in my life. I finished the first game while i was still a soldier, Justice for All during my first year at university, Dual Destinies during Covid lockdown, Investigations while helping my parents set up their shop one summer. So i know i'll look back at playing The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles right after handing my dissertation very fondly. In other words, despite not quite sticking the landing, it's left a very pleasant aftertaste. Thank you for reading!

[sunchaserwings]

Incoming rant about The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, Herlock Sholmes from The Great Ace Attorney, and the BBC Sherlock (no major spoilers ahead I promise).

A preface before I begin; I was never a big fan of Sherlock Holmes or any adaptation of the stories. I've seen Elementary although I was very young so I only have the vaguest of memories of enjoying it, and my roommate had me watch a couple BBC Sherlock episodes when I was a tween/young teen. My mother claims she tried to get me into Sherlock Holmes but I'm rather skeptical. Anyhow, onto the story.

Back in March my boyfriend bought me the Ace Attorney games for my birthday which included the Great Ace Attorney Chronicles (or Dai Gyakuten Saiban for those who are still stuck on the pre-localization names ;p). I was on my flight home from my birthday trip after I got the news my manager fired my brother while I was out of the state and figured why not, I'd start playing the first TGAA game on the flight. I'd probably enjoy myself and I couldn't sleep.

Second biggest mistake of the year (first biggest was trusting Les Schwab to do my brake job). I. Was. Hooked. I played the first case and fell in love with Kazuma instantly (he's so Zero shaped!). I played the second case and realized that calling him Zero shaped was way too accurate. We all know what happened there. Most important to this rant, I met Herlock Sholmes (more on my opinions on him later). I could barely put the game down but I had to take a break due to finding a new job and getting adjusted. I ended up finishing the game in June or July, one of the two. I finished the final case of the first game in one long 12 hour gaming session it was that good (my back didn't thank me though).

Now, the man of the hour: Herlock Sholmes. I didn't think much of him initially. He was simultaneously charming and annoying in the second case but as I played more he grew on me. I cried when the start of 1-5 happened. He clawed his way up into like the top 7 favorite characters at the time. The ending of the game with him playing his violin made me bawl my eyes out. I. Loved. This. Game.

It took a few more months to start and finish the second game. In between Adventures and Resolve I played Skyward Sword, Minish Cap, and some others so I had a healthy break. I came back to play Resolve and finished it like two months ago. It hit me in the gut just as hard as the first game did although there are a great many things I'd tweak and do differently. But Herlock Sholmes... man, he's not my favorite but he's up there underneath Kazuma and Van Zieks.

Anyhow, I finished the game but the hyperfixation had started and would not let me go. I've never been one to go out and seek fanfiction due to... personal stuff but I had a feeling I didn't want to go probe the depths of AO3 yet for fear of crying. I started a graveyard shift at my job which severely limited my ability to talk with people about stuff and also there's so many major spoilers but very few people I knew had played the game. A thought occurred to me, however. What about Sherlock Holmes audiobooks? I have an auditory processing issue which has made listening to audiobooks hard but I decided to give it a go. Perhaps it would satiate the TGAA hyperfixation hunger.

I found the ones produced by Magpie Audio, expertly narrated by Greg Wagland. Go check him out, he has over 77 videos of Sherlock Holmes audiobook recordings and all of them are a minimum of 40 minutes, often times far more. I went through over 30 hours of audiobook in a few weeks listening to these. Sherlock Holmes is such a good character and I can understand how and why he took late Victorian England by storm. And you know what the best part is?

Herlock Sholmes is the most faithful adaptation I have personally seen as a character of the original Sherlock Holmes.

They got so many of Sherlock's little idiosyncrasies right and you can tell the entire team were genuine fans of the books. I listened to Mr. Wagland's narration *and I saw 221B Baker of the games*. Especially the jack knife impaling the communications to the mantle being referenced in the game? The sheer mess of the flat? It's so good!

My roommate (whom is also a Sherlock Holmes fan) noticed my newest hyper fixation that spawned off of TGAA and that reignited his Sherlock Holmes obsession. He was a fan of the BBC Sherlock and now recognizes it was not a very great show but it's a comfort media for him nonetheless. He just dragged me into rewatching it and... okay, it's playing into a lot of inaccurate Sherlock tropes I don't like but goddamn Martin Freeman carries the whole show. I love his John Watson because it feels like a reasonable version of a modern, younger Watson. He feels real in a way. I do like the fact that even in the first episode, it's established that John and Sherlock can make each other laugh and smile just like in the books. I don't forgive them calling Sherlock a sociopath, however (speaking as someone with a brother that has been diagnosed with being a high-fuctioning sociopath). He's AuDHD to the max and deserves recognition in that department.

All of this to say, I can trace my current Sherlock hyperfixation back to Mega Man. Finding Mega Man in 4th grade led to watching the Ace Attorney anime in late 2021 which led to playing The Great Ace Attorney and that led to listening to Sherlock Holmes. I don't know why I decided to make this post but maybe I might start live blogging this shit? All in all, this is going to be a wild ride.

[jinxedshapeshifter]

I think I might’ve figured out why I'm going so insane over The Great Ace Attorney compared to any previous games I've played (this actually includes any game I've ever played btw, not just Ace Attorney). Everything’s been set up since the first game.

Kazuma says he has something important to do in England but never gets the chance to tell Ryunosuke, so Ryunosuke goes to England in his place. In the first game, Sholmes mentions a dark truth about the city of London. The Reaper of the Bailey mystery is mentioned in the third case of the first game and continues throughout the duology.

Adventures and Resolve are intricately connected, which isn't something you get much out of game duologies because it's something that can be hard to plan, especially when you have different release dates (with Adventures being released in 2015 and Resolve being released in 2017). The fact that they're two parts of one story means that it's better to play them back to back (which is what I've been doing and it adds a lot to the experience).

It's such a unique gaming experience, let alone for a visual novel/point-and-click game, and I am quite sure that's why I'm going so insane over it. It's a completely different experience from the original Phoenix Wright trilogy (which isn't interlinked as heavily as The Great Ace Attorney duology; I can't speak on Investigations or the Apollo Justice trilogy because I've never played Dual Destinies, Spirit of Justice, or the Investigations games).

The more drawn out mysteries make it to where you're losing your mind as you play it. This is compared to the other games:

The mystery in the original Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney is why Edgeworth has become how he is. This mystery is figured out by the fourth case.

We do get a more connected cross-game story in Justice For All and Trials & Tribulations, but it still feels a little disjointed because Morgan Fey's bullshit doesn't come up much.

In Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney, you have the first case where you get Kristoph convicted of murder, then it isn't really talked about much in cases 2 and 3 (aside from Klavier mentioning it's why he went back to prosecution after 7 years) because it's not relevant, then we get Kristoph being accused of murder again in case 4, and because there's not a whole lot of build up to it in cases 2 and 3, it doesn't hit as hard as it could have.

In The Great Ace Attorney duology, you're getting hints of everything throughout both games. The Reaper of the Bailey situation, Susato being sent back to Japan at the end of episode 5 of Adventures, Kazuma "dying" before he can explain why he wanted to go to England in the first place, Sholmes's comment about the "dark truth of the city of London", and all of it is interconnected.

I haven't even finished the duology yet, I still have the last part of episode 4 and episode 5 of Resolve to finish. It's fascinating that I was able to glean why The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles feels so massively unique (aside from the setting) from the other Ace Attorney games. The mystery is much more drawn out, and it means the payoff is better.

[alynnl]

I began TGAAC case 2-3 last night.

It didn't surprise me that a murder (or even an accident?) happened at the Great Exhibition. But what I didn't expect was Lord Van getting ambushed! It makes sense that a prosecutor like him would have a lot of enemies, but I didn't think he'd get in an actual fight with them.

The fact that he let Ryunosuke into his office is one thing, but then the two of them having a whole "man-to-man" conversation is another! Ryunosuke was genuinely concerned. And Van Zieks demystified the rumors about him being The Reaper by shrugging his shoulders like "it's just the criminal underworld doing its thing."

He's willing to risk his own life and reputation so that the crime rates will stay low.

And then he even asked about how Soseki was doing, which was a really big surprise for me.

It looks like this next case is about to get personal for Van Zieks because…

One of the leaders of the criminal underworld is the victim

And one of his friends is accused of the murder.

I think there's going to be a ton of Van Zieks lore on this third case and I can't wait to see where it goes.

I also know (thanks to official art and fanart galore of Prosecutor Kazuma Asogi) - who the silent masked apprentice is, but I want to see how TGAAC's story handles the big reveal.

Would it also be too much to ask to bring Susato back too? Iris is great and all, but I want to see her reaction to… well. All of the above!

[folkdances]

hiiii my darling ^_^ just out of curiosity….if i WERE to start playing ace attorney. what game should i start with and roughly how much time would i need to invest in playing it ? :)

HI JULES i would suggest you start playing with phoenix wright: ace attorney because that's the first game in the series and also (IMO) one of the best ones so if you enjoy playing through it you'll probably like the rest too ^_^ plus it sets up the, you know, entire rest of (minimally) the trilogy.

i don't think i'm very good for giving a time estimate though 😓 i think maybe 2-3 hours per case? i googled it and most places say something like 60 hours which is definitely not true lol i think it's more something like ~15 especially if you're a fast reader.

if you have a 3ds you can get the games off of hshop, and if you have an android phone you can use @prosecutors-gambit's collection of apks linked here (hi stefan). if you want to play on your laptop you can just download the roms also off of hshop i believe and play them on the citra emulator (this is what i did when i had a chromebook, too!). you're kind of screwed if you only have an apple phone (piracy) games-wise but you could cheat and watch the anime which covers the original trilogy (pw:aa, justice for all, and trials & tribulations). @key-lime-soda compiled the (subbed) version of it on a google drive here, but the dubbed version isn't very hard to find.

(if you want to do things legally, you could buy the games off of steam, on your switch, there's app versions on the play store and app store, i think probably xbox one, or you could shill like 500 dollars for a game cartridge for the ds.)

there are a lot of games though so i'll list them out chronologically here. for your perusal:

the great ace attorney chronicles - takes place in victorian london and follows phoenix's ancestor, ryunosuke

phoenix wright: ace attorney - aa1

phoenix wright: ace attorney - justice for all - aa2

phoenix wright: ace attorney - trials and tribulations - aa3

miles edgeworth: ace attorney - investigations - aai1

ace attorney investigations 2 - prosecutor's gambit - aai2

apollo justice: ace attorney - aa4

phoenix wright: ace attorney - dual destinies - aa5

phoenix wright: ace attorney - spirit of justice - aa6

bold = "mainline" games

???. professor layton vs. phoenix wright - crossover game that kind of floats around outside of the timeline

if you want the official timeline, capcom put together this little webpage :-)