#I'm mostly vegetarian but will eat fish to be polite

[culmaer]

there's another interesting distinction that could've been made here. French has separate words for 2 types of vegan :

végan·e describes a total vegan lifestyle. so not eating any animal products, and also not using any animal products, eg. no leather shoes or wool sweaters or beeswax candles

while végétalien·ne describes the vegan diet. not to be confused with végétarien·ne which is vegetarian as in no meat, but eggs and/or dairy could be oké

[jittyjames]

bored out of my mind at work bc it’s the week before christmas and no one ever comes and i’ve cleaned this whole place top to bottom and i still have to fucking babysit it so i bring you….

what the jesusi would order from subway brought to you by your local sandwich artist (and why)

(no one will have ham or bacon bc THEYRE JEWISH. and don't fight me on this. i'm the expert.)

2012 bway jesus

he gets the philly steak because it’s the first thing on the menu and he gets frustrated because he doesn’t know how to work a subway without mary and judas (this happens more often than you’d think.) he gets it exactly how it comes on the menu but is dissatisfied bc he doesn’t like green peppers and didn’t realize they were there. he still tips. he inevitably fucks up every time he comes into the shop and ends up dissociating until it’s time to pay. but also buys a pack of the raspberry cookies for mary and judas!!!

arena tour jesus

a vegan, so he get the veggie delight! he gets it on wheat bread with no cheese (but the bread warmed!) and then he gets all the fresh veggies. lettuce, spinach, tomatoes, cucumber, onions, green pepper, and black olives. he also gets with olive oil, red wine vinegar, and a sprinkle of salt ✨but he WILL be getting a bag of crisps to go with it. a super chill customer who is really polite, but not overly bubbly to the point it’s grating. orders quickly and promptly leaves. tips, but makes sure to do it in cash so it won’t go to the company.

2k jesus

he would get the mexicali. it’s indulgent and earthy and rich. it’s a lot. and this jesus is a lot. also everyone who gets this is super nice and they know what the want. mexicali people are good people. he gets it with provolone cheese instead of pepperjack and has them leave off the onions and adds banana peppers. herb and cheese bread! because he’s extra! he does not tip but it’s bc he doesn’t know tipping is a thing at subway.

(okay i admit this is mostly bc there''s a guy who looks just like him who always gets this one even though its not on the current menu. i still make it for him. and that just has the vibes of glensus.)

1973 jesus

this dood is just classic. like yeah. this guy would eat fish. he would get the most basic sub you can think of. and it’s tuna. and everyone thinks he’s wrong for it. but he likes it, so it’s okay. he’s a whole grain guy and he doesn’t get cheese or sauce on it. he’s a cucumber and olive man. that’s it. he’s the type of customer that leaves the employees going “…huh.” he’s the type that just appears at the counter and you didn’t even hear him walk in. he will also always start at the wrong end. but super nice and easy. you learn his order and can make it as soon as you see him. super polite. not very talkative. he tips in coins.

2024 dutch tour jesus

sweet onion terriyaki chicken. the best one. he has the best taste. (this was my fav one before i went vegetarian.) it’s savory but also pleasant and light and it’s a nice little treat. and he deserves a nice little treat. i think he’s a flatbread fellow. for veg he would get spinach, onion, green pepper, and a light glaze of the sauce. maybe he would even add some pepperjack cheese bc he likes a diverse flavor profile! heated and not toasted bc he likes the bread soft like him! the type of customer the employees love getting because he’s always polite and kind (and pretty)! will also tip! this guy walks in and you'll tell your coworker “oh, i'll get him!“

50th anniversary tour jesus

a cutie sweetie pie. he just gets something quick so he can get back to it. he's been getting the same sandwich since he was a child and came in with the virgin mary. just a plain turkey and american cheese (get it for the american tour) on italian bread with lettuce and light mayo. never tomato though. if he gets tomato by mistake, he will politely pick them off and give them to someone else. but more recently, he's been indulging and ordering one of the soft pretzels with honey mustard to go with it. considerate and polite customer who will chat about music with you while you make his sandwich. (you'll slip him a coupon bc he's adorable.) forgets cash, so he doesn't tip but he will most definitely thank you profusely.

2014 Swedish Tour Jesus

straight up just gets that terrifying footlong cookie. It smells amazing (so does he) and they're both intimidating as hell. he straight up walks into the store with his shirt unbuttoned and his sunglasses on. you've never seen anyone brave enough to actually buy this, but if anyone could do it, it's him. he would not eat an actual sandwich from the store. the idea freaks him out. your overly flirtatious coworker will try to ask him out. he'll laugh. then he'll ask for two forks (will he share with judas? mary? he hasn't decided yet.) and tips a surprisingly large amount that makes your jaw drop. you will be googling him to see if he's a celebrity afterwards. but no, he's just like that.

[ittucc-aidwwab]

#01. On Eating [Comments Personified]

For context, I joined a climate change discussion Facebook page (where I see mostly Americans commenting/sharing). I shared an NYT article with no comments onto the page. Food being a very cultural/personal thing will of course generate some interesting discussion.

The Article,

...was an interactive NYT article on “How to shop, cook and eat in a warming world” published on the 30th of April.

Moskin, Julia, Brad Plumer, Rebecca Lieberman and Eden Weingart. 2019. “Your Questions About Food and Climate Change, Answered.”. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/30/dining/climate-change-food-eating-habits.html?smid=tw-share.

Facebook comments are...

Great. Just great.

These are two of the comments I received:

About the article

Look, it asks questions that make sense, and has some answers. Plus it's interactive.

Quiz in the section "What kinds of seafood should I eat?"

Quiz in the section "Is food waste a big part of the climate change problem?"

Comment 1

"Eat when you're hungry. The climate will change. That's all you need to know."

Comment 2

"why would anyone give up eating the food they like to make the world into a colder, less pleasant place where politicians have absolute power and there is less vegetation"

My Opinion on the comments

[Note: I am not the most informed. I’m open to being wrong on the internet. Isn’t that the fastest way to get a right answer?]

Reading this, I doubt the first commenter even read the article. 🙄 Honestly. Nobody said: “stop eating”. As a hypocrite, the things that i cook for myself are not exactly great on the environment, but there are alternatives. Meat-free Mondays are a thing. Go complain about vegans elsewhere.

The point of the article is that the carbon footprint of some foods are bigger than others, and there are ways to reduce our individual footprints. Like red meat? Eat less of it. Like fish? Eat sustainably sourced.

Our Changing Climate did a great video essay on “Here's why we need to rethink veganism”. Yes, being in a meat-eating country is a sign of prosperity. Yes, I’m living the good life. I drink ‘fake’ milk (from soy/nuts), but I’m no vegetarian. The definition, the identity is too specific in a western world.

I miss being in Malaysia where people can choose not to eat certain meats (for mostly religious purposes) and people will respect that. No one will hound you for being “holier than thou” for not eating meat. Of course that being said... my family always told me:

“If you can’t finish it, eat the meat”.

I can agree with the second up until the politicians part. What does that have to do with diet? Is there a trope that politicians eat only gastronomical wonders like shark-fin soup?

NYT's Comment section

JFR Since I have accepted that the climate is slowing changing for the worse, I'm now reading this article about the food I love and what I'm eating is bad for the climate and I'm guilty of ending the world due to my love of eating. Is this article for real? They must be kidding, right? They can eat all the grass they want, I'm not. The self flagellation of these people are beyond belief...

  John Going vegan or vegetarian is the only method of personal, individual climate impact that requires no actual lifestyle change (other than accepting new foods as part of one's diet). No one has to move, switch jobs, stop driving, change schools, stop flying to meetings, shop obscure stores, etc. Every supermarket in America has non-meat and non-dairy foods in abundance. Getting hung up on rejecting the notion of this personalized change since it seems like a morality crusade is a poor excuse to not bother making said change. This is the one method every person who wonders "What Can I do?" can actually can start today, right now, and continue for the rest of one’s life without any other lifestyle alterations required.

There are a few others who endorse a more extreme stance: not eating meat entirely.

Where it breaks down...

See the “CLIMATE-FRIENDLY RECIPES” section? The article’s recipes work don’t take into account food-mileage. “Green Shakshuka With Avocado and Lime” wow, avocado dishes just doesn’t work here, does it look like I, a student, am made of money? Every supermarket ad in Perth already do a “Buy Fresh, Eat West” campaign, the only thing is that there is an encouragement to meat eating through agricultural subsidies.

I understand the two commenters’ discontent in the article: food is comforting, how can an article ask us to give up what we personally like?

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