#I won't get off that soapbox anytime soon

[redlightofdawn]

being taken over by the urge to write superbats set to the beats/themes of total eclipse of the heart

[becauseimanicequeen]

I'm going to build on this post with notes on the timelines/realities after watching:

Episode 4

(Btw, I wanted to do a flowchart of the scenes divided into what I thought were their different timelines, but I haven't had the time. And since I got an offer to participate in a project with a couple of other artists earlier today, I will need to focus on painting from now on until around springtime next year. So, the flowchart won't get done anytime soon (if ever). But, I digress...)

Again, I'm just "thinking out loud" in this post to figure some stuff out, so I might occasionally ramble.

Anyway...

Let's start with the most telling part that there are still different timelines going on (but that things might be changing and becoming more revealing)...

Time

There was an absence of clocks in this episode, at least in the big obvious ones like the one on Great's wall and the clocks at the hospital, etc.

Yet, there were a lot of clocks/watches in this episode and they spoke so loudly to me that I couldn't ignore them even if I wanted to (which I didn't).

I will look at some of the clocks/watches from some key scenes and rant about what I see.

(Disclaimer: I'm sailing the gray seas with this show so I'm watching it with shitty quality, which means that I can be wrong about the times on the clocks/watches. If anyone who doesn't sail the gray seas with me notices that I'm incorrect about a certain time (or several), feel free to share (preferably with images) so I can course correct and keep developing my thoughts on what I think is going on.)

We've previously seen that time within an isolated scene or sequence is coherent in the show. An example is the first scene with Korn and Tonkla (in ep 1), which I wrote about above. It makes sense that Tonkla wants a second round at 08:55 pm after Korn arrives at the house at 07:15-ish pm.

The moments when we've seen inconsistencies in time are in separate scenes that were still supposed to follow each other chronologically (like the whole sequence from Korn arriving at Tonkla's place to him dropping Great off after the family dinner, which I wrote about above). They were completely different in terms of the time displayed on clocks/watches but they still had a chronological flow.

Both these aspects exist in this episode as well. Interestingly enough, it's in the same scene.

If we look at episode 4, it makes sense that Korn was at the bar feeling sorry for himself at 06:50 pm:

And that he and Great spent about 2 hours drinking until he was drunk enough that Great could snoop through his phone:

That seems very plausible, doesn't it?

But, the wild thing is that even though Great exists in a totally different time, since his watch shows 03:20-ish when he arrives at the bar:

Great's time also makes sense because it's consistent throughout the scene as it turns to 03:50-ish while they're still in the middle of drinking:

Am I overanalyzing things?

No.

Let me prove it to you.

*Stepping onto my soapbox*

Let me show you what makes me stay on my agenda that all the clocks/watches in the show are set intentionally to the times they show.

As we could see in the image of Korn's phone above, it says 09:10 when Great tries to open it. But, the small clock at the top left on Korn's phone says 11:02 when Great snoops through it:

Btw, that's just Great continuing to see this anomaly when he's alone, so that makes sense too.

But then, when he sends the text about Nan's location to his own phone, Korn's phone still says 11:02 at the top:

But the text he just sent to his own phone was sent at 09:12 pm which is the "real" time in this scene according to Korn's time:

So, class, say it with me:

It's in the fucking details!

I swear, there must be someone (or several someones?) in the crew whose job is to make sure all the clocks/watches show the correct time in every scene and every take. And that person deserves a fucking raise!

In other words, the clocks and watches matter in this show.

*Stepping down from my soapbox*

Now, let's get back to the differences in Korn and Great's times because, in this scene, it seems like they exist in totally different times even though they are in the same scene together and interact with each other, which is something new.

We've seen them in the same times before. For example when Korn dropped Great off after their family dinner in the 1st episode and Korn said that the clock on Great's phone looked correct to him.

We also saw it when they were at the same bar in the 3rd episode. While Korn was waiting for Great, he looked at his phone, which said 22:32:

Then he had a chat with Samarn, Great arrived and they had a chat about Great's condition, Korn left for the bathroom and was attacked by Tyme, Great went after Tyme, they struggled for a bit, and then Great's watch showed 11:00 or 11:20-ish (I can't quite tell which because the skies are unclear on the gray seas, lol):

If it's close to 11:00, couldn't it just be Great's time anomaly? Sure. But he only sees that when he's alone. Even talking to Korn over the phone earlier in the same episode, asking Korn about what time it was, changed 11:01 on his wall to 09:31:

Anyway...

Great and Korn have definitely been in the same times before, but that seems to be changing (even when they're together).

(This might just be an isolated incident to visibly show that there are different timelines. But I personally think it has more significance than that. I'm just not sure what that significance is, yet.)

Why could it be that the times are different in this scene?

Could it be because Great is having an OOBE and this is just happening in his head as he's dying? Sure.

Could it be because Great already has issues with time and his watch just does what it wants to do? Sure. But, so far, it's only stayed at 11:00-11:02 when he's had issues with time before (and during his 4MPs, but this is not one of those times).

But, what if it is because Great and Korn exist in different timelines/realities and are bleeding through into the other person's timeline/reality, similar to the way the cat and Dome bled through into Tonkla's reality?

Or, if I spin off on a theory I had in my theories post after the 4th episode (the theory that Tonkla and his timeline are at the center of all of this), characters like Korn and Great might be spinning on different orbits around Tonkla. Korn is closer to Tonkla while Great is on another orbit that's further away. Korn is the middleman existing in both timelines/realities while Great is distant/separate from Tonkla (at least for now).

If that's true, it could make sense that Korn and Great are in different times even though they're in the same scene.

My obsession with time in this episode doesn't just stop there, though. There are also the scenes after Great helps Nan escape.

Chronologically, Nan's rescue is the same night as Great gets Korn drunk and collects the info he needs. I'm basing that on Great wearing the same clothes during the rescue as he did at the bar with Korn.

Therefore, since we're following Great, let's look at the time from his perspective for a moment.

Let's say that Korn's time is ahead of Great's. That could make sense since we've seen Korn be ahead in the sequence where Korn is with Tonkla and then drops Great off which I've written about above. Korn left Tonkla at around 08:55 pm and dropped Great off at 07:13 pm. So, let's say Korn's time is ahead of Great's.

Let's also say that Great arrives at the bar at 07:00 pm (I'm basing this on their text conversation seen on Korn's phone in the pictures above, where Korn got Great's last message saying "Chill bro" at 07:00 pm). He grabs Korn's phone at 09:10 pm, which means he's been there for 2 hours and 10 minutes.

So, if Great's watch shows 03:20-ish pm at 07:00 pm, that means it's around 05:30 pm for him when he grabs Korn's phone. Chronologically, then, anything after 05:30 pm is when he rescues Nan. Considering how dark it was outside when he rescued her, it seems logical that it would be during the dusk/nighttime/dawn.

Unfortunately, we don't get to see any clocks or Great's watch during the rescue (and with my shitty quality, I can't see if his phone displays any time when he's sent Nan's location to Tyme either). So, all I have to go on is when Nan gets to the hospital. One of the staff members there wears a watch that says it's 06:55 (I'm assuming this is pm):

That doesn't really make sense to me considering how dark it was when Great rescued Nan. It could be 06:55 am instead, of course, but that would give Great 13 hours to get changed out of those glaringly white clothes between leaving the bar at 05:30 pm and rescuing Nan. But he didn't. So, I'm not sure I'm agreeing with this chronology.

Let's continue anyway, just to see where I end up with this.

After Great and Tyme drop Nan off at the hospital, they speed through the darkness in Great's car. (Btw, I'm anxious every time he drives that red car with the 4 on the license plate because I feel like he's going to crash and be the one that dies this time around (if it's even possible to die in your OOBE visions?). But, I digress...)

We only see them drive through the dark, both before and after the scene on the bridge.

Then, as they start making out in what looks like a glamping tent (probably somewhere out in the countryside), Great's watch says it's 02:00:

Suddenly, that could make sense again according to Great's time. Because, if Great is still in his own time from the bar, it would mean that it's 02:00 am here. That would also mean it took him 7 hours to drive somewhere so he could fuck that doc in a tent. I mean, no shame. We all have our priorities.

But, I just... It feels off to me.

Even though the times are intentionally inconsistent in the show, they still make sense in their own way. And this doesn't.

I still feel like there should be some consistency in Great's time, especially in his own scenes. And I just can't see why he wouldn't change his clothes if he had 13 hours on him or how it can be that dark (when he rescues Nan) between 05:30 pm and 06:55 pm in Thailand in August.

So, let's go back again and assume that Great's time at the bar is am rather than pm. This could make sense because we've already been shown and told that he likes to drink and be at bars, so arriving at a bar at 03:20-ish am is probably normal for him.

Now, let's do all of this again...

Since Great's watch shows 03:20-ish (which should be am now) at 07:00 pm, that means it's around 05:30 am on his time when he grabs Korn's phone. Anything after 05:30 am is when he rescues Nan. That seems more logical, considering how dark it is outside when he rescues her.

Also, another detail that supports this is the blueish light that shines through the glass wall where Nan is being held.

Sunrises generally have cooler tones (like blue) than sunsets (which are warmer). And we previously saw a yellow shine earlier during the day when Korn was there.

So that's a small detail that supports Great being in the am hours.

Again, unfortunately, we don't get to see any clocks or Great's watch during the rescue, but we still have the staff at the hospital who wears a watch that says it's 06:55 (this time I'm assuming this is am to keep some consistency).

Great could, logically, ditch Korn at the bar and help Nan within that hour and 30-ish minutes (it obviously depends on distances between the places, even though we all know that boy loves to speed, and it's not like he didn't know where his dad's old warehouse was).

Then Great and Tyme drive through the dark, which makes sense in the am hours, and they start making out in the tent at 02:00 (which, if he's still in his own time from the bar up until now, it would mean it's 02:00 pm). It would still mean he drives for 7 hours to the glamping site.

(To be honest, those 7 hours seem a bit too much for me. But maybe it takes that long to drive to a glamping site from wherever the story takes place? I have no idea. Or, perhaps time has done a number on us again and it's another timeline? I don't know.)

If we look at things from Korn's time, however, that's when shit gets interesting...

According to Great's watch, this whole sequence from arriving at the bar at (his) 03:20-ish am (which is Korn's 07:00 pm), to kissing Tyme at 02:00 pm, takes 10 h and 40 minutes. That means that Korn's time, at the same moment that Great and Tyme kiss, would be 05:40 am.

I'll say that again...

That would mean Korn is at 05:40 am.

The time when Great ditched Korn at the bar to rescue Nan (at least in Great's time).

What does that even mean? That whatever Great did during that time is reset somehow? That it won't affect Korn's timeline that he rescued Nan? That Korn will never find out that Great rescued Nan because she's been shot by Samarn in Korn's timeline? That none of it matters? That Korn's still drunk and thinks his younger brother took a selfie with him only a moment ago and is still in the bathroom?

I have no fucking clue... Yet.

But I do have to say that the whole bar scene made me really excited because, as far as I can remember, this is the first time we got to see two times being parallel to each other with the help of looking at the actual time within the scene. Great and Korn were existing in two separate times even though they were in the same scene together, interacting with each other. That was really interesting.

Now, let's stop talking about numbers and move on to another topic...

Tilting Camera Shots

I mentioned this briefly last week (in the post above that I'm adding this to) and wanted to add some notes about it here because I've noticed that they're using this technique more frequently the further into the show we get. (Btw, this technique probably has a specific term I don't know about, so I'll keep calling it tilting camera shots.)

Here are some scenes where it's used (there are more examples throughout this post as well):

It seems like it's being used for Great, the characters that are closest to him (Tyme and Korn), and, perhaps, those who are most affected by the changes he's making in his OOBE timeline. Because they do show up more the further we get into the show and the more things Great changes.

I also get the feeling that the tilting camera shots are being used to show that the "world is turning upside-down". Or, perhaps, the turning of a clock (if it will swing around completely, at some point, similar to the one in the garage when Great and Title were fighting in the 2nd episode).

Tonkla and Win are completely left out of this (other than, perhaps, in their sex scenes when the camera moves around, but that doesn't count for me). At least so far. It would be interesting to see if/when the camera starts tilting for them as well. That's when I know that timelines are starting to merge in ways that will have me question if there's an open wormhole or a black hole or something somewhere that has shit leaking through from other dimensions. (This won't happen though. I think...)

So, before I lose my mind here, let's move on to my final point for this post, and that's:

Before vs After the 4MPs

It was pretty clear in the first three episodes that there were inconsistencies in the environment around Great before vs after his 4MPs (which I wrote about above). That happens in this episode as well.

The first time Great has a 4MP in this episode is when he and Tyme are arguing at the hospital. Great is just standing there, leaning against the wall outside the operating room, next to the painting, waiting for Tyme before the 4MP:

And Tyme sees Great before the doors close behind him:

After the 4MP, Great is standing in front of the painting while Tyme sees him when the doors are already closed:

Before Great's second 4MP in this episode, Nan is sitting directly under those bloodstains that look like fingers:

While, after Great's 4MP, when he comes back to help her, she's not sitting directly under those bloodstains that look like fingers, but more in the middle, surrounded by the bloodstains on both sides:

These are only small changes, just like the ones in the previous episodes. But they still exist, and they make me wonder if Great actually saw all these things happen in his real past (and I mean all the events he's now changing due to the 4MP). In other words:

He hit Manee and drove off

He bumped into Tyme and left

He saw Title kill Dome and didn't stop it

Tyme approached him at Uni and Great walked away

Tyme confronted Great about Nan and Great still didn't know anything

Great saw Samarn shoot Nan and chose to run away

Previously, I thought some of them might be the result of his changes during his previous 4MPs (like running into Tyme just because he visited Manee at the hospital who he made sure got there after he ran her over the second time). But what if he experienced/saw all of them in the real past too? That could be why the environment after the 4MPs is different than before it happened, to show that the new reality is visibly different.

I'm not sure about this, but it is some food for thought.

So, what does all this lead me to believe now that we're halfway into the series?

That the timelines will, probably, merge more, we'll see more differences in times in the same scenes (mostly if Korn and Great are present together, and perhaps between Great and Tyme as well), the camera shots will continue to tilt/spin, and we'll continue to see differences in the scenes before and after Great's 4MPs.

I also still believe that we're seeing at least 3 timelines:

The present timeline

The 4-minute timeline.

The real past/Tonkla's timeline (which, going forward, may have more moments from the other timelines bleed through into this one).

We're halfway into the show, and some puzzle pieces are starting to be laid in place, but there are many more left before I can figure this thing out.

I can't wait for the next episode.

Is it Friday, yet?

The Timelines in 4 Minutes

Since the Olympics are finally over, and I have three episodes of 4 Minutes to go on, I thought I would spend some time trying to figure out the timelines.

I'm someone who figures out what I want to say by writing it out, so this post will most likely be me "thinking out loud" and drawing conclusions as I go, and then, at the end, I'll have a clearer view of the timelines (hopefully).

(This is most likely going to be one long-ass post, so beware.)

Let's start with some initial notes before I dive into the fun stuff.

The contents of this post may be influenced by some of my theories (pre-premiere theories, episode 1, episode 2, episode 3), and I might come up with new ones as I write this post (they will be highlighted in purple so possible readers of this mammoth post can choose to ignore them if they want, lol), but my focus is primarily on the timelines themselves and, perhaps, on the passing of time throughout the episodes as well.

As I start this post, I believe there are 3 timelines (which are subject to change as I continue to write):

The present timeline, which is what starts off both the 1st and the 2nd episodes (these are events from the future from our current vantage point).

The 4-minute timeline, which is where Great changes things (I've previously called this the OOBE timeline, since I believe Great is having an out-of-body experience and is "reliving" his past).

Then there's a possible third timeline (I've previously thought it might've been the real past, which showed us events that actually happened in the past paralleled with the 4-minute timeline) but I'm most unsure about this one, so I'll just call it the 3rd timeline until my thoughts are more clear about it.

Now... Where the hell do I start?

Time

It might be a good idea to start with the clues that there are different timelines at play and then dive deeper into the episodes to figure out what's happening.

Besides the obvious clues that Great is sent back in time when he has his moments of the 4-minute phenomenon (4MP), there are other clues that different timelines are at play.

The first clue shows up in the Korn and Tonkla scene from the 1st episode and all the way through to the scene where Korn drops Great off at his place after their family dinner.

This is where I'll be crazy about the details (but I'm a hundred percent sure they matter, especially since this whole show is about time), but if we look at Korn's watch when he arrives at Tonkla's place, it says 7:15-ish pm.

Later, when Tonkla wants a second round, it says 8:55 pm.

Then they get interrupted because Korn's dad wants him home for dinner. They have their family dinner, and then, when Korn drops Great off at his condo after dinner, Korn's watch says 7:15-ish while the clock on Great's phone says 07:13.

(Great already has issues with time, which I believe is the effect of him having a cardiac arrest at 11:00 in the present, but the time anomaly in this particular sequence is different than Great seeing 11:00 and counting when he's alone.)

This whole sequence is meant to be the same day Great hit Manee with his car. All of them (even the dad and Great's mom) are wearing the same clothes they wore when introduced throughout that very same day. Yet, the times on the visible watches and clocks tell us something strange is going on.

(Could this just be me overanalyzing the watches and clocks? Sure. But the interesting thing is that the time is still consistent in the sequence with Korn and Tonkla. It would make sense that they talk, then fuck, and then lie there butt ass naked and cuddling for a total of 1 h 40 min. And, again, considering this show is about time, I trust that the creators have been meticulous about those details, even if it means changing the time on the watches and clocks for every new take if needed.)

Considering what I wrote above, I might start calling the 3rd timeline Tonkla's timeline, because I feel like it revolves around him.

Either way, I will focus on the 4-minute timeline and the third one in particular because I don't see a possible 4th one right now (I might by the end of this post, though, lol).

The question is, then, how we can determine which scenes belong to which timelines. I will get to that further below, because first...

Let’s look at some more details I’ve noticed.

Blurry Edges

One of those details is the dreamy, blurry edges (I'm sure there's a technical term for this, but I have no idea what that might be, I'm just guessing that they're adding it in post-production, but don't quote me on that). Much of the show has a dreamy feel overall, but I'm talking about the blurry edges in particular.

I've noticed blurry edges in the following scenes:

When Great feels iffy in the elevator (ep 1)

I'm pretty sure there's some of it happening in the scene when Tyme is treating Manee, both in the ER and in the OR during the surgery (ep 1)

At the family dinner when Great's mom tells him he should go see Manee at the hospital (ep 1)

When Great feels iffy at the hospital before his second 4MP (ep 1)

When Great is sitting in Title's car talking about where View is (ep 2)

I'm not sure about this one since it's hard to tell because it's dark, but it might be used in the scene where Title beats the shit out of Dome (ep 2)

When Great brings Dome into the hospital (ep 2)

When Korn is having a meeting with Fasai and her dad (ep 2)

When Great feels iffy and has his fourth 4MP at the basketball court (ep 3)

When Win reads through Tonkla's brother's social media posts and comments, which is a memory of him doing it (ep 3)

And I'm pretty sure we're getting more of this since there were scenes in the trailer that had those blurry edges as well, for example:

The pattern I'm seeing with these scenes (if we exclude the first scene in the elevator, Korn's meeting with Fasai, and Win's memories, the latter might've had blurry edges just because it was his memory, btw) is that each scene has something to do with Great's 4MP, before the rewind and/or after the rewind.

(Perhaps the reason for the blurry edges showing up in Korn's scene is because he's the possible third character that's having an OOBE. And if this theory is true, there's a possibility that there's yet another timeline/reality/perspective present that entwines with both Tonkla's and Great's timelines.)

There are also the tilting camera shots (mostly showing up in scenes with Great), which I might get into next week as I continue to build on this post.

But, what does all this with the blurry edges mean?

I have no fucking clue.

Perhaps it's just meant to show that things aren't what they seem. Perhaps it's meant to show which characters are experiencing OOBEs (Great, Tyme, and possibly Korn)? Perhaps it's meant to show moments that are affected by Great changing them through his 4MP? Again, I have no fucking clue, yet (but it might start to get clearer as we get more episodes).

So, moving on...

Different Realities/Parallel Worlds/POVs?

There is another aspect to this whole timelines discussion I'm having with myself that I want to bring up. And that's the clues I've found that support the possibility of different realities/parallel worlds/different point-of-views. I'm not sure what to call them, yet.

So, let's dive into the moments I'm referring to and try and figure it out.

The second time Great experiences his 4MP, he goes to the ER's front desk and we're shown the nurse's actual desk where there's a clock that we're supposed to focus on because it's telling us that time will do weird shit again.

The moment Great has been sent back in time (after being in Manee's room), he's standing in the same position, looking down at the clock on the desk, and realizes it's happened again (just like when he hit Manee). However, this time, the things on the desk are different.

The time on the clock is the same, but the mirror is in a different position, 75 has turned to 74 (I'm not sure what these numbers mean), 77F has turned to 76F (which I'm guessing are Fahrenheit degrees), and the pink, blue, and yellow papers are lying on top of the folder the second time around.

If Great was sent back in time to the exact moment he was in before he went to Manee's room, the things on the desk would've been in the same place, right? So, he might not even have been sent back to the reality he was in before this 4MP happened.

Another clue is the sunrise and the sunset artworks on the wall at the hospital. We often see them by the entryway:

Then, in the 2nd episode, it looks like at least the right one is hanging outside Manee's room (which we've seen isn't anywhere near the front desk since Great had to walk around a bend to get to her room in the first episode).

Could they have more than one of those artworks in the hospital? Sure. So, take this with a grain of salt.

(Btw, I find those artworks so fascinating because sunrises are usually cooler (more blueish) while sunsets are usually warmer (more red/orangeish). But from our perspective, looking at them straight on, the warmer artwork has the sun setting in the west while the cooler artwork has the sun rising in the east. And, since the eye in left-to-right reading cultures often automatically goes from left to right, it's interesting that the sunset comes first and then the sunrise. Perhaps it's to show that the world is turned upside down now that Great is having these weird experiences. Or perhaps it's to show that the time between the sunset and sunrise will be important for Great and Tyme since Great watches Tyme pass those artworks (from sunset to sunrise) the first time he has visions of them having sex. But, I digress...)

Another set of clues is in the scene with Great and Tyme sitting on the bleachers by the basketball court and Great has another 4MP in the third episode.

The first time we see this wide shot, there are 5 people (excluding Great and Tyme):

4 of them are wearing white shirts (one with a darker cardigan), and they sit on Great's side. One wears a blue shirt and sits on Tyme's side. This is where Great asks Tyme why he didn't call before coming to the University.

As they continue to talk (and the camera shot is closer to them), you can see the top of the head of a girl walking towards the bleachers. There's also another person walking by, waving, but he's walking right past them rather than towards the bleachers.

Then, as Great thanks Tyme for the Thai tea and gets up to leave, we get this wide shot. The only difference here is that the girl who walked towards the bleachers is now sitting next to her friend. That seems logical, right?

But, then Great has his rewind, and he comes back to the moment where Tyme reminds Great to get his wound treated. Great tells Tyme about his precognition and Tyme tells Great that he will consult with one of his doctor friends. Then, as Tyme stands up to leave, we get this wide shot:

The two girls at the bottom left are in the same position but the girls two steps above and to the far left are different, the boy and the girl next to them are new, and the boy with the white shirt to the right is the same boy that sat on Great's side previously.

Coincidence?

Well... After Tyme tells Great that he can call him Tyme rather than Doctor, and Great says that they should grab something to eat after he gets his wound treated, we get this shot:

Now we're back to the original two girls to the left, there are new boys wearing black on the bottom left, and the boy in blue is back again. That's a lot of moving around in such a short time.

The only things that stay consistent in all of the shots are the bags (except for one of them) and bottles.

So, what's going on? Is this another one of those things that happened at the hospital where Great was sent back to a reality where things were different from the reality he was in before the 4MP?

Is the show giving us different perspectives? For example, Great's perspective before his 4MP, Tyme's perspective when he says he'll talk to Den, and Great's perspective again when Tyme has left? That could work for the hospital example as well since it was from Great’s perspective before the 4MP but turned into Tyme’s after the 4MP as he asked the nurse at the front desk who the guy that bumped into him was.

Or is the show just underlining how strange everything is during the 4-minute timeline (and Great's possible OOBE)?

Well, the latter might not be it because clues like this don't just show up when Great is around.

In the first episode when Korn comes to Tonkla's place, Tonkla's laptop shows he has something blue and yellow on his screen:

Then the screen is black as if it's been turned off:

Later, when it cuts to them lying naked on the sofa, it's just white:

Also, notice how the small spotlight behind the desk is positioned differently and pointing in another direction on the desk than in the first image above.

Could it be that Tonkla simply used the laptop and moved the lamp between them having sex and lying there? Sure. Again, if we look at Korn's watch from the beginning of this whole sequence (7:15-ish pm) to when Tonkla wants a second round (8:55 pm), we know he had 1 h 40 min to rearrange things and do stuff on that laptop.

But, you know, unless the house is on fire, who would move from that spot on top their sugar daddy who is lying there deliciously naked? And especially to do some stuff on a laptop? Fuck technology (the not-so-good kind of fuck) and fuck your sugar daddy instead (the deliciously bad kind of fuck). We all know Tonkla wants to. But, I digress...

Take this detail with a grain of salt if you want to (or a whole fistful). For me, though, this shows that there's a possibility that changes and inconsistencies like this aren't just happening around Great. And (to my crazy mind, at least), that it might be two timelines showing up throughout this particular sequence between Korn and Tonkla.

24 Hour vs AM/PM Clock Settings

And on the topic of inconsistencies... Another thing I want to point out is the inconsistencies with the digital clocks when it comes to them being 24-hour clocks or set to the am/pm thing.

The hospital seems to have a 24-hour setting in some cases:

But not in others:

This could be in the morning, of course, and the darkness outside Manee's window might just be because of the thunder/lightning storm (but I still think it's night rather than morning).

And then we also have Great (who, to be fair, has a special relationship to time in this show), who sees 11:00/11:02 both in the morning and at night:

And the am/pm thing is on his phone when Korn drops him off:

Even though his phone seems to have the 24-hour setting:

More than once:

But, again, Great clearly has issues with time and clocks/watches. So, this might just be a way to show how confusing it is to him.

But, what if it isn't? What if it's an indication that several realities are entwining? (Okay, I feel like I'm going with the term "realities" when it comes to this.)

My Timelines So Far

So, what are my conclusions after watching the first 3 episodes?

At this point, I think there are 3 timelines:

The present timeline.

The 4-minute timeline.

The real past/Tonkla's timeline (which is meant to show us the real past events that happened, most of it from Tonkla's perspective).

Having Tonkla's timeline be the real past is possible considering the inconsistencies in time during the Korn and Tonkla scene and then the Korn and Great scene in the 1st episode.

And before someone says this doesn't make sense because of all the missed calls Korn has (if anyone is still reading this, lol)... Well, that's because Korn exists in both timelines and the scene when he looks at the missed calls in that bathroom in the 3rd episode:

Could be the 4-minute timeline rather than Tonkla's timeline (the real past). That could make sense because all we've seen of Tonkla since Korn told him off over the phone is him waiting by his phone for Korn to call.

We never saw Tonkla call Korn again after being told off.

On the flip side, if Korn is in the real past when he looks at those missed calls in episode 3, it would make sense that when he wants to call Tonkla while he's waiting for Great at the bar (in the 4-minute timeline), the icons on the top right of his phone are different from the phone he looked at in the bathroom:

(Am I getting too crazy about this? Yes. Do I care? No, because it's fun.)

Could he be using different phones? Yes. Could those icons change depending on where he is and what settings he's using? Sure (I'm not familiar with Samsung phones so I have no idea what most of those icons mean). But it could also mean that we're seeing Korn in different timelines in these two scenes, which makes it possible for Tonkla's timeline to show us the real past.

(I personally prefer the option that the scene with Korn looking at the missed calls is from Tonkla's timeline (the real past) while Korn almost calling Tonkla in the bar, and then smiling at his phone as he's going to the bathroom, is from the 4-minute timeline where Tonkla's brother (who I believe is Dome) hasn't been killed.)

Also, I think showing us the real past is a smart way to show us what leads up to Tonkla beating the shit out of someone.

(I believe that scene is from the real timeline, and whoever he's beating with that rock, might have an effect on the things that are happening right now. I'm not sure what kind of effect, though. Perhaps it's a possible third person experiencing an OOBE and "living" in the 4-minute timeline. Perhaps Great is going through this OOBE to prevent that murder from happening after he wakes up (if he ever does). I'm not sure at this point.)

So, that's where I'm at with the timelines after 3 episodes.

And, when it comes to the inconsistencies in certain scenes, the easy answer is that they are just meant to show that this whole 4-minute timeline is an inconsistent mess of (what I believe to be) Great's OOBE.

But, I would personally find it more interesting if these inconsistencies (like all the people around Great and Tyme changing in that scene at the basketball court) are evidence that there is more than one character experiencing an OOBE and that the inconsistencies shown are there because the characters have different perspectives of the events happening.

Now, I had planned to make a flowchart of the scenes in each episode divided into the three different timelines I've written about above. But, I want to get this post out before the 4th episode drops tomorrow, and I just don't have time to make the flowchart before that (or enough images left in this post to fit something like a flowchart in it before I hit the pesky limit). So I'll wait with that chart until next week instead (when I'll continue to build on this post in a reblog).

Waiting to create and post the flowchart until after the new episode tomorrow also gives me another episode to nerd out about. It's a win-win for me.