#I started with NTT and read pretty much chronologically up

[fredricwertham]

The fight in N52 Nightwing 30 is pretty much ground 0 for cynical interpretations of Dick’s relationship with Bruce and it wouldn’t have gone over nearly as poorly as it did if happened in the preboot era. In preboot, Bruce & Dick were equals. This was established through Dick’s time as Batman during prodigal, which ends with him chastising Bruce for his emotional immaturity [picture of Bruce’s face superimposed over the Robin costume in the good soldier memorial], and re-established during Reborn, which ends with them cohabiting the cowl [picture of a Bruce & Dick standing next to each other in the same costume]. Everything that takes place between Dick & Bruce after Dick was reclaimed by Bat editorial takes place in the context of an egalitarian relationship in spite of the fact that Bruce had previously played a parent, mentor, whateveryouwanttocallit role in his life. This is true no matter how bad it gets between them. Dick had also established strong relationships with other characters in and outside of Gotham, including ones who matter outside of his solo title, meaning that Bruce wasn’t his only option. It was his choice to stick with him.

However, the underpinning rationality of N52 Gotham is that editorial wanted to put Bruce back in the role of undisputed patriarch/sole protagonist of Bat-stories. Technically, this is a trend that started during War Games (the first big Bat event after DiDio took over, and which removes both Dick and Babs from their leadership positions among the group) but was disrupted by Bruce’s death & Dick’s subsequent stint as Batman.

In any case, N52 stripped Dick of his post-crisis accomplishments in order to reinstate the Bronze Age status quo. He’s younger, we never see him achieve much of anything concrete, and most importantly he doesn’t have any of the social connections that defined his predecessor. The only person N52 Dick was close enough with to be shown mourning his death on the page is Alfred. And there is just… an enormous difference between that fight scene taking place between Batman and an almost-but-never-quite 30 year old who’s lead his own team (critically, the NTT Titans were a deliberate counterpoint to the Justice League as opposed to a JLA Jr.) and is more respected (or at least better liked) than Bruce by many of their peers, and the same scene taking place between Batman and a socially isolated 20-ish who’s only recently moved away from home, hasn’t done much of anything with his life, and seems to have trouble forming close relationships.

And then there’s this tertiary aspect where the audience can’t pretend it’s taking place in the same continuity as preboot (although King et al. reference and rely heavily upon preboot events throughout Grayson) because the whole plot depends on the people not being able to connect Dick to Bruce’s, whereas preboot trained its audience to understand that knowing Nightwing’s (or DickRobin’s) secret identity was as good as knowing that Batman was Bruce Wayne. Eg. in the first Batman/Deathstroke crossover, the comic establishes that Slade and Wintergreen are on friendly terms with Dick in order to explain why they know Bruce is Batman.

[argentinpantsuit]

Complete Teen Titans Masterpost And Reading Guide -

This is mostly a passion project of mine about The Titans! The general consensus I have seen on this website is that their history is confusing and people don’t know where to start so …. This guide includes ALL pieces of Titans Media.

Even the ones that just include some of the core members on different teams because I want to and related series. I want to be as through and complete on this as possible.

(I dont include the JL: No Justice and ODYSSEY JL(2018) thing when they were taking on their role or something mind numbing along those lines because… its JL & i didn’t really care and frankly who does ? But it’s before the tom taylor titans run so I wanted to preface with that. )

Just to start this is all my opinion and you can really begin wherever you feel like it if you want to !

TEEN TITANS (1966)

before you read the Teen Titans (1966) series you should read

- Brave and The Bold ( 1955) #54 and #60 if you want to read right from the start chronologically!

- Showcase #59 before Roy joins the team

The Original Team of the TEEN TITANS was a series that ran through the 60’s beginning in 1966 - 1973 and had a comeback in 1976. It had 53 issues.

The original series consisted mostly of Robin ,Wonder Girl , Kid Flash and Aqualad with many a cameo from other teens.

You can either read the OG Series but its completely optional it’s pretty outdated and silly but it’s a fun ride even then. In my opinion its best to leave for after you have been endeared to the character’s.

Teen Titans (1966) reading list.

( Orange = optional ! )

Teen Titans #1-20

- The Brave and The Bold #83

Teen Titans #21-31

- The Brave and The Bold #94

Teen Titans #32-34

- World’s Finest Comics #205

A warning for this one read all these at your own discretion alot of these are very much products of their time, so I feel obliged to put a warning for racism at this point.

Teen Titans #35-39

- Brave and The Bold #102 and #149 after the series ends.

If you really enjoy the Silver Age Teen Titans there are also team-ups in Detective Comics #402 , Batman #241-242 and a small one in Detective Comics #474.

And the Teen Titans lost annual , teen titans spotlight #21 , silver age teen titans (1-4) & a story ( worlds oldest teenagers ) in the 80 page Flash giant are all silver age styled teen titan stories.

Alternatively just read TEEN TITANS : YEAR ONE.

Some Issues I recommend from the OG Series

- #1 #2 #12 #53 ( last issue )

NEW TEEN TITANS

NTT is arguably the seminal run and its best an absolute mustread. ( at it’s worst ….)

- DC PRESENTS #26 ( totally optional)

- The New Teen Titans Vol. 1

#1-40

- BEST OF DC #18

- Tales of The New Teen Titans ( #1-4)

- read the 1st annual after issue #25

By Issue 40 the series rebrands to

- TALES Of TEEN TITANS

This continues on from issues #41 to #58 it runs alongside NTT VOL.2 but is set 6 months before.

Read annual 3 as Part of Judas Contract !

- NEW TEEN TITANS VOL.2

#1-49

- TT Spotlight Miniseries (1986) !!

- There’s also a new teen titans : drug awareness special at some point ( it’s its …. Certainly something)

NEW TITANS

By this point they remembered that “hey these guys aren’t teens anymore ” and thus renamed it to NEW TITANS . This series started off well enough and quickly devolved into arguably one of the worst runs I ever read.

New Titans #81 is part of War Of The Gods and Annual 7 is part of Armageddon 2001 ( don’t bother ) annual 8 is part OF YET ANOTHER EVENT . Again don’t bother.

It’s pretty much highly recommend giving it up at #70 regardless .

-THE NEW TITANS

#50 - 100

ECTERA -

- running alongside NEW TITANS by 1992 was TEAM TITANS a series so awful I cannot recommend to you in clear conscience but if your a completetionist ( trust me I get it ) It’s there ! It also has an annual.

- TITANS SELLOUT SPECIAL (1992)

- Deathstroke The Terminator

Not strictly a titans related series but I begrudgingly put it here because they show up in here sometimes and also rose gets her start here. But don’t read more than you have to because its. Such a shitty comic 😭.

(Also Jade bombs Quarac in these pages and that gets mentioned alot later )

- NEW TITANS : MELTDOWN

The last decaying remains of NT walks on like a zombie on acid but by #100 all of the NTT crew is gone ( well most Mirage Donna as a Darkstar ect ) and leave to be replaced by an all new government sponsored Titans team lead by Roy.

- NEW TITANS

#0 (ZERO HOUR don’t worry about it) - 130

( IF YOU WANT CONTINUITY FOR KORY Showcase ‘94 #11 )

Theres a secret origins annual someone complained at me about on twitter so ? Theres that too I suspect its the Secret Origins Annual Vol.2 #3 but I will read to see if not.

NT ended with a whole 11 annuals. Alot of crossovers and dip ins to be read side along Donna also shows up in darkstars alot and Kory in Omega Men and Cosmic odyssey its a whole thing none of its obligation.

Ok so I am aware that they aren’t strictly Titans series (it happens after NT ends) BUT PLEASE TAKE a minute to read

The Arsenal Special!! Its a short single issue and BRILLIANT !! It informs a-lot of his character later on as well as of course the actual Arsenal Miniseries.

ALSO THE TEMPEST (1996) a absolute must read also informs basically everything about Garth and arguably his best story ever … just take a minute and read these if you want !!

(Theres also Kyles GL run which features Donna heavily when they were dating or DC Girl Frenzy Donna Troy special #1 or the whole 1996 NW run but they are more complicated and I am getting a bit off track) thats a whole another comic reading guide 😭.

Before the Titans (1999)

TEEN TITANS (Take 2)

Ok so in the 90’s DC decided to start the TT from scratch ( huh see how long this’ll last )

This all new team was comprised of 4 half alien teens and a freshly deaged Atom. It didn’t last very long and while I am VERY fond of it (look at my @ and pfp ) AGAIN you don’t HAVE TO read it ( PLEASE DO). Either way I am putting it in the red.

TEEN TITANS (1996)

#1-24

Also a few specials ! And 1 annual.

(They also show up in Chase at some point but they dont really do much )

Titans Beat #1

Impulse/Atom DoubleShot #1

Robin/Argent DoubleShot #1

Superboy/Risk DoubleShot #1

Supergirl/Prysm DoubleShot #1

New Year’s Evil : Dark Nemesis #1

JLA/TITANS : THE TECHNIS IMPERATIVE #1-3

Absolute MUST-READ . Literally one of my favourite comics of all time . Also essential because it kickstarts a certain run..

TITANS (1999)

One of If not the best run on Titans ( don’t @ me ) It slowly loses momentum after #26 but I still generally LOVED it . Stellar A++ Titans content !!

( you can also read the Beast Boy #1-4 miniseries prequel . But unless you really love Bette and Titans West it’s not worth it )

TITANS (1999)

#1-50

Also TITANS Secret Files and Origins !!! ( ♥️♥️♥️ )

After #14 you can read Titans/Legion Of SuperHeroes : Universe Ablaze (2000) crossover

YOUNG JUSTICE

OK OK NOW I know THIS ISNT A TITANS OR Teen Titans run but this gen WILL eventually become TT 2003 ( 😒 ).

-Young Justice (1998)

It’s great.

(Minus peter david’s general nonsense)

YJ/TITANS : GRADUATION DAY

Oh brother. Ok so I am pretty salty about this whole comic but it’s essential and has some good moments soo yeah read Graduation Day.

OUTSIDERS/TT SECRET FILES AND ORIGINS please read this after Graduation Day It’s heartbreaking and I love it dearly it’s beautiful !

TEEN TITANS 2003 - ( until OYL )

After the unfortunate events of graduation day the aforementioned YJ Gen ( - Anita and Greta 😞) and the OG NTT Crew ( Vic Kory a deaged Raven ) join to become …..

TEEN TITANS ( 2003)

( I have mixed opinions on this run some think it a masterpiece some think it awful I generally think it’s…. Fine ? Well not fine but give it a go I guess I recommend #2-26.

- #1-33

After #33 OYL hits

OUTSIDERS 2003 -

Ok so this run isn’t really…. a titans run but it has fantastic Roy and Dick characterisation and KORY JOINS LATER AND SO TECHNICALLY-

#1-33

Read Annual 1 before #46

Don’t bother after Batman shows up unless your really invested.

POST - OYL TT 2003

Ok so I basically consider post OYL TT ‘03 to be a totally different team because… well it is . All of the NTT crew leave and are replaced by a handful of cameos and eventually like Rose Wilson and Kid Devil and because at this point half of the YJ gen is well…dead . It was pretty awful at this point though I find the character interactions endearing. This series remains like that until N52 .

They have crossovers with Red Robin aswell as Wonder Girl Vol.2 .

#33-100

OUTSIDERS & Teen Titans 2003 ECTERA -

- DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES READ TERROR TITANS . Unless you really love Rose..( like me..) abysmal book.

- RETURN OF DONNA TROY ♥️♥️♥️ !!!! Excellent MUST READ !!!!

- TEEN TITANS : COLD CASE - seriously don’t read this if you don’t have too.

-RAVEN (2004)

Miniseries written by Damion Scott.

- TERRA

Miniseries written by Palmiotti with art by Conner.

- TEEN TITANS : Spotlight on Wonder Girl.

- Outsiders/Checkmate

- Teen Titans/Legion Special (2004)

- Wonder Girl Vol.2

THEN - TITANS EAST SPECIAL !!

DC SPECIAL CYBORG #1-6

I really like this mini!

TITANS (2008)

After all the bullshit THEY ARE BACK TOGETHER AGAIN YAY !!!! To bad there’s so much shit going on OUTSIDE of the Titans that ends up fucking over the characters. E.G Bruce dying so Dick has to go be Batman and …. Hell . Fucking Rise Of Arsenal. If you know what happens in that book well you know that Roy ends up relapsing and going down a much darker mindset.

Series swings between being really good and being a mischaracterising MESS.

TITANS ( 2008 )

#1-23

By Titans #12 the Deathtrap crossover starts it goes like this.

TITANS #12

Vigilante #5

Teen Titans #70

TITANS #13

Vigilante #6

But eve why did you put it’s end at 23 when I know for a fact that goes on for #38 issues ????

Oh boy .

Titans : Villains for hire Special #1 before #24

TITANS ( 2008 ) : VILLAINS FOR HIRE.

So at issue 23 DC had the genius idea of taking the Titans and …. turning them into a mercenary and hitman group lead by Deathstroke himself ( why ? I wish I knew.) Filled out with hitman and villains and …. Roy who was now really dark and #edgy . Whatever It was bad and a wannabe secret six .

#23-38

Also check out the Robinson JLA run after this.

It isn’t a strictly Titans team obviously but it feels wrong not to add it here.

Teen Titans : Blackest Night

Teen Titans : Brightest Day

However they’re was almost light at the end of the tunnel …. Jericho ( Joey Wilson yes he IS ALIVE ) seemed to have plans to assemble a new TITANS team and reunite their family and Roy well it seemed he was on a path to redemption he was almost there close to moving to recovery and healing and he could do it with—

N52 . POST FLASHPOINT ERA.

The N52 was bad isnt a particularly outrageous statement but IT WAS EXTREMELY bad in relation to the Titans. Bluntly put none of it ever happened and the only titans ( TEEN TITANS ACTUALLY) that had ever existed were the TT2003 guys . Just them. Fab Five never existed. NTT never existed.And all of the other og TT guys were …… WALLY never existed. Donna was a one note villain Garth was a baby I think… Dick was …. There I guess.. ROY was a dumbed down alcoholic with no purpose other than to gawk at how cool and oh and ahh at Jason Todd . ( KORY …… truly just awful what happened to her ).

- TEEN TITANS N52

They have 2 series . Read at your own peril they’re better if you pretend that the characters aren’t supposed to be … like the characters that they are . ( scott lobbell shouldn’t of been allowed to touch a pen ) Raven isnt as bad as she could’ve been so I will give it that. But Lobell is a sexual harasser so if you are going to read it try and 🏴‍☠️.

There is also RHATO (2011) which I only add because they vaguely alude to some kindof titans team and they have Roy and Kory. But I tell you from the bottom of my heart that this book is so abysmal ESPECIALLY if you cared about Roy and Kory at all. Truly just terrible and not worth anyones time ( also written by Lobell). I will never touch this book again.

-STARFIRE (2015)

Kory got her own solo book which is…hm. Of everything they could do with a kory solo book. It was bland and imo mediocre but hey give it a try.

REBIRTH ERA !

- TITANS HUNT

Wally’s BACK BABY ‼️

-TITANS VOL.3.

is exactly what I wanted in the first half and then falls on it’s ass and burns like a trash fire . recommend stopping at #20

#1-40

Justice League : No Justice- happens around this time and it was trying to create a new status quo ( uh-huh DC AGAIN ). But you already know from my ramble at the start about that shit.

Teen Titans Special #1 before

TEEN TITANS VOL.3

( also as your reading this read JL #54-55 for context in TT #27 )

“Yeah sure put the 11 year old in charge ”

THAT IS NOT DAMIAN I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. The series starts with Damian leading alot of the OG NTT guys like Kory and Vic + Ace and then it later just becomes Damian + Emiko + Ace and a couple other guys like Crush .

Drowned Earth happens ( not important) but it happens at #28 . They have a crossover.

TEEN TITANS / DEATHSTROKE : Terminus Agenda ( it’s a vol )

- TITANS : Burning Rage

#1-7

- Titans Academy

Kindof dips into the show 2003 stuff w red X so you may be a bit confused but it’s fun to an extent.

-#1-15 (ongoing)

- TITANS United

- TITANS : BLOODPACT

I love both of these Bloodpact in particular and it gives me Dickkory back aswell !! Good story and stellar art !!

NIGHTWING #100 - 104

To explain what is going on.

- TITANS (2023) Ongoing

#1-9

Also TITANS:BEAST WORLD I guess 🤷‍♀️

-Titans: Knight Terrors.

Mid at best and I am being kind. #1-4

- Tales Of The Titans

A miniseries but so far the best Titans content we have gotten IN A WHILE . ♥️ ( sorta…..kory..)

#1-4

ECTERA -

(ones I didn’t know were to put)

- New Teen Titans GAMES !

stellar art an standalone (?) dubiously canon graphic novel by Marv Wolfman and George Perez !

-TITANS AND NTT CONVERGENCE

worthwhile and exactly what’s on the tin ! Love these gave a happy ending to the Post Crisis universe !

- Teen Titans : Smallville

I am the only person who has ever known this comic existed. Its so ass and has nothing to do with the actual titans comics but oh my god does anyone remember this anyone can anyone

- Teen Titans Earth:One

really cool raven design.

- Teen Titans : Worlds Finest.

wonderful art by Dan Mora . Story is fine.

- DC PRESENTS THE UNCANNY X-MEN AND NTT CROSSOVER.

This food is so fucking good Lois.

- TITANS : Paper Scissors Stone

Virtually nothing to do with titans but I remember liking it !

- Theres also Teen Titans : Beast Boy and Beast Boy loves Raven & Robin but its very much a show 2003 based comic and I hate it so bad.

- The Teen Titan 2003 show and TTG comics

- TEENY & TINY TITANS

So cute. 😭

OTHER MEDIA -

- TEEN TITANS ( 2003 THE TV SHOW )

A solid adaptation of … most of the characters please don’t go into this show and come out expecting the same from the comics. Did a lot of good for Terra’s character and influences ALOT of public perception. Just … don’t be annoying about the comics after watching this .

- TEEN TITANS GO

YES IK IK BUT ITS AN ADAPTATION AS WELL DON’T COMPLAIN.

- TITANS ( TV SHOW)

….I wouldn’t recommend this show too anyone EXCEPT Titans fans who want more content of the team it’s it’s an experience. ( FUCK YOU FOR DOING THAT TO DONNA )

SO YEA. Feel free to question me if I have forgotten any I don’t have spectacular memory lol. (probably forgotten some useless event again).

Happy reading ! !

[blackbatcass]

just read all of NTT and came out of it a huge donna fan but i have no idea what else to read for her. perez' wonder woman? titans 99? kyle rayner shit? give me donna recs please

omg hi!! you have come to the right place<3 congrats on finishing all of ntt by the way that’s such an accomplishment. the short answer is…pretty much all the things you said lmfao. there are lots of reading guides out there- I know I have a few in my donna tag, the ones I used were made by @/senorscotty- that will be comprehensive lists of her appearances but I’d be happy to give you a roadmap. My own personal recs for must-reads would be Titans 99 and the return of donna troy miniseries.

If you want to follow her story on from ntt chronologically the next thing to read would be darkstars (for donna specifically starting at #21), but feel free to skim some of it because that series is… not the most engaging lmfao. around this time there was also some back and forth with green lantern as she and kyle start their relationship so you can read those side by side if you want. she specifically appears in green lantern (1990) #58-59, 61-62, 68-69, 70, and 73-75. after the darkstars disband really the only place donna was hanging out was gl, just as a civilian- this is from issues 78, 81, and 88-90. A lot of these are just small cameo appearances but are necessary if you’re interested in keeping up with her and kyle’s relationship. those last few issues are very important for her though.

The next important donna rec would be Wonder Woman vol 2, specifically issues 123-136. This arc reinstates her as a superhero & aligns her with the amazons again, so going on from there she appears pretty often in the rest of that WW run! I would definitely recommend it for Donna, and it’s pretty easy to go to places like dcu guide if you want to know specifically where she appears.

JLA/Titans #1-3 comes next, and then Titans 99 after that! I’d recommend reading the whole thing, it’s only 50 issues and it’s a good time. Directly after titans comes the titans/young justice graduation day special, and obv her next appearance after that is the return of donna troy mini.

That’s about the buffer for my donna knowledge unfortunately! I am definitely not up to date on her post-2005 appearances but like I said there are lots of guides that should have that info for you. I hope this was at least a little bit helpful lol!

[coolgirl]

how do i start reading about the batkids i’m really overwhelmed help

fuck it if I know… probably the smartest way to tackle it is to follow this list, which pretty much covers the vital Batman related arcs. PERSONALLY, I don’t care about reading about all the batkids, I just picked my favorite ones and just.. read everything I could about them (and lucky for me my favorite batkids don’t have thousands and thousands of comics so ! yay!) here’s some reading orders I made (except for the Damian one)

Jason Todd

Stephanie Brown

Cassandra Cain

Damian Wayne

Duke Thomas

Okay so, if u wanna read it in some kind of order, heres a bit of a general chronological-ish list thats probably innacurate bc i haven’t read all of these and the ones i did read was.. a long time ago. anyways, i hope this is useful, and again, imo its not necessary to read everything in order, but this might help to know a bit whats the timeline of some major events i guess? also i’m definitely going to be editing this post as people point out the mistakes rip! 

(the batkids i added to this timeline are the ones that have active roles in rebirth atm, Dick, Barbara, Jason, Helena, Tim, Stephanie, Cass, Damian, Duke, and the basics of Azrael, Kate, and Luke because i love them)

Dick’s time as Robin (that i have no clue how it goes but uuuh read Robin Year One / The Long Halloween / Dark Victory / The New Teen Titans up until #53)

Batgirl: Year One  

Birth of the Demon and Son of the Demon (here’s the original comic about Damian getting conceived)

Jason time as Robin (post crisis) stop before death in the family

Nightwing: Year One 

Batgirl Special #1 - The Last Batgirl Story 

unfortunately… you gotta at least know a bit of what the killing joke is about

NOW read death in the family… two blows one after the other, If you’re reading the trade that includes a lonely place of dying DON’T read that yet

now you can read the rest of the new teen titans up to #59

now A Lovely Place of Dying, which is Tim’s introduction. 

rest of ntt if u wanna

NOW for oracle!barbara you can either read the suicide squad comics as a whole, which includes little hints of her coming back, or you can skip to  issues #48 and #49. Then The Batman Chronicles #5.

Huntress Vol. 1 - Helena Bertinelli’s introduction

NOW! Steph’s introduction happened on Detective Comics #618

Stephanie’s list, if you’re following the whole list stop at Robin #70 (Tim’s solo is really good to know about them)

Azrael vol. 1: Fallen Angel - Azrael’s introduction

Batman: Knightfall - you know the infamous pic of bane snapping batman’s back like a stick? here it is.

Nightwing (1996)

Young Justice (1998) (NOT the one based on the tv show)

Birds of Prey i would say.. up to #7 

Batman: No Man’s Land

now it’s Cass Time!  Batman #567 was her introduction, and Detective Comics #734 n Legends of the Dark Knight #120 are vital to her story.

Batman & Huntress: A Cry for Blood / Huntress: Year One

Titans (1999)  

Batman Gotham Knights (2000-2006) is a good comic for batfam interactions

Rest of Birds of Prey ig

Teen Titans (2003)

Batman: Hush

Batgirl Volume 1 up to #52

War Games (when Stephanie dies rip)

rest of Batgirl

Batman Lost Days / Batman: Under the Red Hood 

Robin #172-174 (2008) steph comes back!!

Batman: Batman and Son He (Damian) is here babette

Batgirl volume 2 (2008-2009) and  Batman and the Outsiders (2009) are good cass comics up to #14

Robin/Spoiler Special (2008) 

Batman R.I.P. 

Final Crisis

Batman: Last Rites

battle for the cowl SUCKS the only important thing to know is that Dick is Batman now

Batman & Robin (2011) up to #12

Batwoman: Elegy 

Batgirl (2009) up to #14

The Black Mirror is a really good bats dick story.. or so i’ve been told

Red Robin

Batman: Return of Bruce Wayne #1-4 

Batman and robin from #13 to #14

Batman: Return of Bruce wayne #5-6

Batman and Robin #15-16

Batman:The Return 

Batman INC. (2011)

everything else in Batman and Robin, and Batgirl

Gates of Gotham #1-5 (2011) 

OK NOW.. N52. So new 52 was the reboot and it basically just took everything i just mentioned and threw it out of a fucking window. Changes: Barbara is Batgirl again, Cass and Stephanie didnt exist in this timeline for like four years, somehow Jason isnt such a dick, i think Damian didn’t get so fucked over, and uuuh i have no clue what happened with Dick and Tim but i think their whole story with their teams (teen titans / titans / young justice) got incredibly fucked over. Almost every single member of the Batfam (that didn’t get booted from this contuinity) got either a solo or a team book, which are. super good to start, reading order be dammed, but the batfam went through a lot of shit (court of owls, the joker, bruce kinda died, jim gordon became batman, bruce didnt remember anything, dick kinda died and got exposed but came back as a spy, damian died, bruce lost his mind, they kinda went to hell, damian came back, dozens of robins ran around, etc etc etc) so im gonna try to order it as best as i can T__T

Batman, Vol. 4 (Secret City) / DC Comics: Zero Year / Batman, Vol. 5 (Dark City)- Okay so, this wasnt the starting storyline for New 52 but its basically the basis of the batfam and co and introduces Duke and Harper so it’s kinda vital.

Ok so here you can start reading the first volume of.. any of the titles lol. Red Hood and the Outlaws / Batgirl / Batwing / Nightwing / Batman and Robin / Teen Titans

Batman: The Night Of The Owls  

Batwoman (2011-2015) 

Batman INC up to #6 - im gonna be honest this run fucking sucks but uh important stuff happens here

Nightwing / Red Hood and the Outlaws / Batgirl / Batman and Robin / Batwing / Teen Titans Vol. 2 (approx the issue #9 of all these runs were included in the Night of the Owls crossover)

Death Of The Family - this one.. bad.. but ig its important

Nightwing / Red Hood and the Outlaws / Batgirl / Batman and Robin /  Batwing / Teen Titans Vol. 3

Batman INC #7-8 - okay so. Damian’s death. 

Requiem / Batman and Robin: Requiem - the aftermath of Damian’s death. The first one isn’t collected afaik so i liked you to a reading order if you’re interested 

Nightwing / Red Hood and the Outlaws / Batgirl / Batwing / Titans Vol. 4 (here’s Luke Fox’s introduction!)

Forever Evil - the one where shit happens to Dick that i think leads to Grayson and all that spy bs

Yeah.. Grayson now (vol 1-2) - Helena gets re-introduced here!

Red Hood and the Outlaws / Batgirl / Batwing / Teen Titans Vol. 5

Batman Eternal - where Steph gets re-introduced

Batman and Robin: Robin Rises

Batman Endgame (Batman #35 -#36, Batman Annual #3, Batman #37- #39) - Duke is back!!

Grayson Vol 3 

Superheavy (Batman #41-44 / Detective Comics #41-46) - ok so Bruce is gone and now Jim Gordon is Batman.. just nod and smile

Ok so now, Red Hood and the Outlaws and Batgirl don’t get involved in any big storylines anymore, and Teen Titans started from #1 again. 

Teen Titans Vol. 1-2

We are Robin Vol 1 

Batman and Robin Eternal - where Cass gets re-introduced 

Robin: Son of Batman Vol. 1

Red Hood/Arsenal Vol. 1

Robin War 

Grayson Vol 4

Teen Titans Vol. 3-4

Red Hood/Arsenal Vol.2

We Are Robin Vol. 2

Robin Son of Batman Vol. 2 

Super Heavy Part 2 (Detective Comics #47-52 / Batman #47-52 )

OKAY SO. Rebirth is a continuation of New 52, but with some changes bc almost every single damn character got.. lets say nerfed, and people didnt like it so they’re slowly bringing back some elements from pre 52. Here basically just read whatever whenever unless you wanna get into like. the metal event. then i would recommend you to start off the bat with that to get it out of the way as some comics have tie ins. Then heres where the kids appear

All-Star Batman (2016-2017): Bruce and Duke 

Batgirl (2016): Barbara and sometimes Dick

Batgirl and the Birds of Prey (2016): Barbara, Dick, and Helena

Batman (2016): originally Bruce and Duke but now its the Batman and Catwoman show

(if you’re interested in Duke i would say to read those two first as it explains where his character stands on Rebirth)

Batman and the Signal (2017): pretty self explanatory

Batman/Shadow (2017): Damian appears sometimes but.. i heard Bruce is a dick to him here so fuck it

Batwoman (2017): Kate and Julia 

Detective Comics (2016): Cassandra, Azrael, Kate, Tim, and Stephanie

Nightwing (2016): Dick, and sometimes Damian and Helena. 

Red Hood and the Outlaws (2016): Just Jason except for the annual that had Dick too

Teen Titans (2016): Damian.. baby boy leads a team

Titans (2016): Dick

Super Sons (2017): Damian team sup with Jon Kent (Superman’s kid)

and finaaally.. some elseworld stories (basically aus) that have cute batkids interactions

Tiny Titans (2008-2015)

Lil’ Gotham (2013-2014)