#I need to rewatch little white lies tbh
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I joined the Starkid fandom around 2011, disappeared around 2017 and properly came back like a few months ago and as you can imagine itās crazy different now but itās been the best thing being apart of this wonderful community again and Iām feeling a bit nostalgic so I thought Iād list the things I remember from when I first joined. (I would have been 11/12).
ā¢ The StarkidWiki mainly being lots of fuckyeah_____ pages for the actors.
ā¢ Me making one for Meredith because I loved her in starship and couldnāt believe she didnāt have one.
ā¢ Being obsessed with Joe Mosesās āPotionās Master Cornerā series.
ā¢ When MTV went and visited Starkid during the making of Starship (mainly about Darrenās involvement as he was on GLEE by then).
ā¢ Everyone wearing or wanting pink sunglasses.
ā¢ The old space themed logos.
ā¢ Having fan-art from all the musicals on my IPhone 3G, like Pigfarts, Umbridge, Tootsie Noodles etc.
ā¢ Listening to all the music on YouTube like the very potter soundtracks and even compilations of everyoneās vocals.
ā¢ Boy Toy always getting stuck in my head.
ā¢ Watching Me and My Dick at like 12 because I wanted to have seen every musical.
ā¢ Joe Walker revealing Brian and Meredith were a couple and everyone freaking out.
ā¢ Watching all the Space Tour and Apocalyptour challenges.
ā¢ The excitement surrounding the announcement of AVPSY.
ā¢ Seeing Jeff Blim for the first time as Sweet Tooth and being like wow this man is amazingly talented, then seeing him as Aragon in AVPSY and being like wow this man is talented and hot.
ā¢ Watching the videos of the HMB cast do panels in their costumes at the 2012 Chicago Comic and Entertainment Expo (and Sean Astin as āDylan Saundersā??).
ā¢ Being excited at all the Starkid cameos in Chris Allenās short film āOMGā.
(I canāt remember as much from 2014-2016 and this list got long and boring š«£).
#I need to rewatch little white lies tbh#sorry I went on a bit lol#my life got messy in 2014 hence the lack of stuff from that period#starkid#starkid productions#starkidproductions#oldstarkid#meredith stepien#avpm#avps#avpsy#starship#space tour#apocalyptour#hmb#Jeff Blum
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i will never be over the way this show has continuously tried to frame bellamy and clarke as heroes and good people, or the way the fandom has almost completely embraced and supported that narrative
the amount of times iāve read ā[clarke] saved everyoneās ungrateful assesā makes me seriously consider turning evil. like arenāt yāall bored? donāt you have a different sentence you would like to say for a change?
i want to talk about this but i probably donāt remember a lot of the details of this show so if im forgetting something or get something wrong i apologise, but i never have any desire to rewatch past s2.
clarke isn't even the hero of her own side, she took power of them using the military force of the grounders, someone elseās people, sheās forced them into alliances without their knowledge that werenāt in their best interest (while she literally had no idea what they were even going through because sheād abandoned them after upsetting their entire political structure, and this leader sheās bowing to is responsible for the slaughter of their children, has broken an alliance previously with them, has hung the threat of genocide over their heads, and who isnāt even wanted in power by her own people- dragging skaikru into that conflict, too), sheās sacrificed them and whatās best for them in order to cater to/concentrate on the grounders newest demands or pursue her own personal mission, sheās lied to and patronised them, sheās abandoned them and surrendered them to die while they were under her protection and responsibility, and in Book 2 (and these arenāt her people but in canon sheās their leader anyway apparently despite trying to blow them all up a few days before...) sheās abandoned them again, and is speaking for them without consent or any connection to whatās happening with them again,.........her inner circle/her āfriendsā have to be extremely careful to remain important to her or on her team or theyāll be sacrificed, harmed or become acceptable losses to whatever her newest goal is too (but hey at least she says she cares about them) all while acting very āwoe is meā about the whole crushing weight of responsibility she shouldnāt have.
but sheās the hero, sheās beloved, sheās special, she has relationships that were never built, she and only she saved everyone again and has all the lines telling us so no matter how dishonest those statements are.
like this is where i personally see what you said in your ask most: when it concerns clarke.
bellamy on the other hand...i donāt place him at all on the same level as clarke when it comes to this. clarke has privilege that bellamy just never had as a character. and i think that does probably play into why i like him.
him being a hero to the delinquents/the 48 is completely believable to me. he was the original leader, he got them through a tough time, he chose to put himself on the line for them, and heās the one who stayed. i also think itās reasonable that fandom might romanticise him this way because he is one who has been shown to value the one life as well as the many of his people, a guy doing his best and making big mistakes along the way, a mixed complex bag of good and bad, i find him very likable and i love the toxic/pained/vulnerable ones lol but more than anything i find him to be one of the more interesting/entertaining characters on the show (Book 1).
we also see him torment himself with his own mistakes instead of just having other people do it for him/remind him like we see happen with clarke- and we all know fandom loves equating that with a āredemption arcā and as much as i personally dislike seeing pity parties i do like self-awareness and responsibility in characters that goes beyond a 3-second-long puppy dog look or straight dismissal of someone elseās pain, and for the most part bellamyās expressions of this donāt come across as demanding sympathy from others but from genuine self-loathing and an honesty to himself, internalising the effects of his actions/childhood.
i know i personally prefer The Flawed Protector over The Tortured Saviour nobody asked for (same white male hypocritical moral hero in a womanās body).
i donāt believe in assigningĀ āheroā to any of them though like thatās the whole entire point of the show lol āthere are no good guys.ā and i also think a major chunk of fandom/shippers have warped bellamyās character so much that it isnāt even him anymore, so this man theyāre celebrating as a hero/good person isnāt even bellamy sometimes.
all of the genuinely āgoodā and kind people are dead.
i don't think i'd say bellamy was ever framed as a hero. like he was just never important enough to be, heās just not put into those positions (despite being the male lead), clarke is. as the protagonist ig. bellamy...heās the protector/knight of the heroes, but not the actual hero himself (applies to octavia too i think, where she acts and he reacts).
like take mount weather, clarke becomes empowered by herĀ āwanhedaā status, bellamyās (and montyās) part in that is lost...clarke is ābearing it so they donāt have toā (rme) which simultaneously strips the other boys from claiming the āvictoryā of saving the 48 while still leaving them with the guilt, like it suits how i see clarke perfectly that sheās the only one to refer to the genocide (and shutting down the CoL, i realised) as āiā while monty and bellamy say āweā and it was clarkeās actions that got them to that point in the first place, but this is one of those times sheās clearly The Protagonist. if that makes sense lol.
bellamy is on the opposite side to clarke in s3 and s7 and he needs to be moved to her side in order to be on the ārightā one. now i donāt agree with that one bit mind you (when it comes to s3, idc about s7 lol) and i didnt see it that way but imo thatās how the show wrote it, to the point he was either demonized endlessly by fandom or woobified in a way that denied him his own agency. during s5 i donāt i think anyone was framed in a good light. i can see this applying in s6, though- where he was his absolute worst self yet, betraying his own development, failing at every point to ādo betterā despite claiming it, but still was given that reasurring line that they did better and saved people and was in that āheroicā position i guess? but is that because he was back to being clarkeās āgood little knightā tho? (but do we claim s6??? do we really??? do we claim it ladies???)
s6 was 100% dedicated to making clarke look good/like a 'good' or sympathetic person. the bodysnatching plot (and the s6 sheidheda plot because if it was supposed to be about bellamy and address his s5 actions he wouldāve been present to experience/observe those consiquences himself but he wasnāt lmaoooo. instead it was to tell the audience āactually clarke was right last season and hereās another reason to feel bad for her and how those ungrateful bitches were treating herā) has no other purpose for existing. clarke's character has consistently been elevated at the expense of everyone else's. but im not sure the writing did a very good job convincing me she was a good person if it was trying to do that LMAO like my interpretation of her is so fitted to canon, and no amount of throwaway lines telling me how good she is did anything to change what i saw yk? and in s6, combined with being patronised by the writers, i found her to be at some of her most obnoxious.
i donāt agree with placing bellamy and clarke in the same boat tbh. like they just come from completely different places and come across differently, especially in the way they interact with other characters.
in my experience this fandom (on tumblr) is extremely skewed in favour of clarke, like ive never seen a fandom so obsessed with their protagonist. thereās A LOT of clarke stans who stan her for being one of those ādeserves better :(ā characters, selfless and heroic, and support that view that sheās the superior character, entitled to other characterās devotion, love and validation yet doesnāt have to reciprocate any of it. the CL/BC ship war was just a bunch of people fighting over clarke, who deserves her more, which character is more toxic to her, which other character would 100% be her bff supportive of that relationship, treating her as a passive whose actions donāt take affect. im not sure how much i blame the writing for that because if so many of us are capable of recieving her character in this way then...why arenāt so many other people? how is there such a massive disconnect between the ways we see her?
and imo a lot of the bellamy love in this fandom comes from shipping him with clarke too rather than being because of who he actually is.
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Sex, Intimacy and Buddie (better known as I have a lot of feelings about this show, some of which are related to the before mentioned topics) - Part 4
Ciao, ragazzi,
i bims, die Kriz and I will be your tourguide today. (Yes, weāre on first name basis now, congratulations, kid, yaāll earned it!)
Okay, so I rewrote this intro like 5 times by now. 3B has been so hard on me in a way that the rest hasnāt been. While I was writing 3A I had so many thoughts and ideas and conclusions from the get go, my main worry was to fit it all in and to make it coherent. And it took me a while to get there with 3B - but donāt worry, my friends, I did not disappoint and it is just as long as part 3, despite Tim Minear Ā personally coming to my home and vibe checking me for saying he had daddy issues. Which is fair, tbh. Sorry bro, Iāll stop calling you out like that. (No, I wonāt.)
Also if you need a āquickā refresher of what happened so far or you just forgot, here are:
part one - part two - part three
And also, the usual spiel:
This meta was supposed to be a lot shorter and only talk about how both Buck and Eddie use sex to distract their respective partners from whatever topic they actually wanted to talk about but since I decided to rewatch the show to make sure I donāt miss any such scenes, it has exploded a bit and taken on more topics
I should also mention that I am a Buddie shipper and while I tried, you will find several references and arguments for the ship in this Meta, not all of which necessarily call for a romantic pairing but just: These two are deeply connected and you cannot look at one without discussing the other and they are each otherās strongest emotional connection.
I should also preface this by saying that the whole of the 118 has some obvious intimacy / commitment issues except Bobby (which is sort of surprising) but *John Mulaney voice* we donāt have time to unpack all of that!
On another note I cuss a little in this Meta because my parents let me listen to TicTacToe as a small child and after that it never stuck that cussing is wrong so, uhm, parental supervision is advised or something
This Meta will so far have FIVE parts now. The original plan was to do three, one for each Season, and have it organised by episode so you could technically follow along (which is still true), but due to personal reasons, also known as *feelings*, Season 3 had exploded disproportionately and for readability reasons I have split it in three parts - there is part 3 which ends with the Christmas Episode, part 4 which spans what aired of 3B so far and the final part 5 which will include the final and my conclusion, if by then I am able to form thoughts again / still
Alright you guys, drumrolls please: part 4 (also called ā*butterfly meme* Is this growth?ā)
Episode 3.11:
I wanna be honest with yaāll, Season 3B is sort of a mixed bag for me, because while yes, all the episodes have been great viewed separately, they just feel so ā¦ separate from each other, and with 3A having so many episode-spanning arks, itās a bit of a letdown to return to the standalone episode format. Especially because it makes the whole two steps forward one step back thing so much more apparent as it feels like what happens in one episode has no consequence for the next. It felt a little like they burned through too much in 3A already and didnāt know where to go from there. Which is also true for me, so maybe I should stop judging.
Anyways, Iāll stop bringing the house down now.
Letās continue with: Donāt you just love stan-ing two adorable, complicated badassĀ firefighters? Yeah, me too.
Also, I wanna see the Doc again. Tim, can we? He could be friends with Frank? We could see them have tea and talk about those dumbasses at the firehouse? (And also legs, since, you know, Frank only has one?)
And also the bank guy, Harrison was fun. (This whole episode was.)
And I know it has nothing to do with Eddie or Buck or Intimacy or Sex (okay a little with those) but I do wanna point you to that damn meatball scene, because itās so chaotic? First, why are all the ingredients laid out on the table but Maddie is making balls already only to then cover them in water? Look, Iām basically vegan (haha, how long do you think Iāve waited to shoehorn this in here) and havenāt cooked meat since I was ā¦ fourteen, probably? And even to me that just seemed wrong! Not to mention AFTER touching raw meat, Maddie only cleans her hands with a towel before opening the door? You used to be a nurse, Madeleine / Maddison! (Do we know her full name? I feel like we donāt.)
One thing I really love about 3B (so far) is how happy and settled my main man Edmundo Diaz is. Itās in the eyes, you guys! I donāt know if itās a Ryan thing or a deliberate acting choice but whatever it is it translates well (haha, well, yeah, weāll talk about that one later) into his character and it really makes you feel like Eddie is so much better. Like for all the analysis of Eddie Iāve been doing, I didnāt notice how much colder he grew since the beginning of Season 2 until this episode came and suckerpunched me with the warmth in his eyes. Good god, proceed with caution! Oliver could call me right now and say āLook, Buddie isnāt real, I just keep getting lost in Ryanās eyes.ā and I wouldnāt even be mad, Iād just be like āHowād you get this number?ā. (It was Tim, wasnāt it? Damn it, we talked about this, mate! I wanna meet his cat, not him!)
The episode doesnāt hold a lot of relevance in terms of this meta (aside from some parallels Iāll talk about in a moment) but I still want to discuss it a little bit because it means a lot to me. I just love Howard āChimneyā Han with all my heart.
I wanna say something controversial now because weāre 500 words in and I feel like I havenāt made you regret reading my rambling yet, so here is controversial thought of the day #1: All these fucking characters are grey as fuck except Howie. Howie is good to the bone. He is the goodest boy. He is so gentle and sweet and non malicious and yes, I am including Evan in my list of grey characters because he pulled some SHIT! Okay, a little bit of shit. Things have been *implied*! (I donāt even know anymore. Maybe heās just off-white or something.)
And whatās the worst my best friend Howard āChimneyā Han has done on this show? Lied to his girlfriend a buncha times so she likes him better? I lie all the time. I just lied to my mother 5 minutes ago (Yes, Mom, Iām working on my thesis.)! And Howie just lied to make someone like him better. Thatās not bad, thatās horrible self esteem!
Which brings me to another thing I wanna say because thank you, Jennifer Love Hewitt. If anyone from the cast gets to call me, itās you, because you clearly had your thinking pants on when you took one look at Chimney and said: I want that one! You a real one and I will name check you on my way to heaven - not, that theyāll let me in, but the thought counts?
Now, lets talk about those parallels I mentioned before:
The Hans vs. the Buckleys.
Now, we still donāt know a lot about Mr. and Mrs. Buckley and what exactly made them bad parents (though Iām firmly team a little neglectful but not abusive) but we know a lot about Mr. Han.
One thing of the bat I wanna mention is that this episode confirms that Maddie at least had a hand in raising Buck - which doesnāt actually have to mean too much, because based on JLHs age, her relationship with Dough and the way their sibling relationship is played itās safe to assume that Maddie is supposed to be between 5-10 years older than Buck (assuming she started nursing school after High School at around 18 / 19, which I think takes 4 years in the US? And she was an ER nurse for 8 years, making her AT LEAST 30 in Season 2, but considering how she emphasised that Buck noticed something was wrong with Dough even as a teenager and she met Dough at 19, Iām gonna assume Buck was younger then 16 because Dough wonāt have shown his abusive tendencies right of the bat, so probably about 12 / 13, making Maddie like 6 years older than him? And since we DO have a definite age for Evan, Maddie is probably around 33 in Season 2 (which also works because they wanted to put her and Eddie in a relationship and Ryan Guzman is in his early 30 as well). And look, as the youngest child of two people I would call more than adequate parents I can tell you: older siblings always have a hand in raising you, especially when the age difference exceeds 4 years. One of my sisters is 5 years older than me and I was more scared of telling her about having a bad grade than I was of my parents, soā¦
Anyways, back to what is actually happening in the episode and how it both parallels and contrasts the Buckleys and Hans.
Like Maddie and Howie are the older siblings and Buck and Albert are the younger siblings, yet Buck and Howie are paralleled as are Maddie and Albert. Also, Howie resents his brother for the relationship he assumes Albert has with their father, but Maddie recognises that Buck probably had similar experiences growing up as she did. Of course one could argue that Howie and Albert never had a relationship before while Buck and Maddie grew up together, but look, Maddie was in an abusive relationship for quite a while and hadnāt been in contact with her brother for 3 years prior to Season 2 but itās safe to assume they didnāt have too close of a relationship before that either, or the Buck we know would have gone to Maddie to investigate and find out why she dipped. Soā¦
(Despite all of this, Maddie knew she could come to her brother for help in Season 2 meaning one, our boy is such a good boy always and the Buckleys canāt be all bad if Maddie knows she can count on her brother, meaning she didnāt think her parents screwed him up too much in the time since she moved out and gradually left his life. Just another thought.)
I also love how her firm believe in the strength and meaning of familial relationships triggers a shift in Howie. Please keep this in mind for when we discuss 3.16 in a few minutes, friends.
Also that kitchen scene has all my heart. They really said kitchens are a Buddie thing now, didnāt they? (Also from a non shipper perspective, Maddie and Buck are just the sweetest and for a TV show actually fairly realistic siblings. At least if I compare them to my siblings and I.)
Also in terms of the actually topic of my metaās: this is our first indicator that Eddie considers the 118 his family. And we have another moment of Chimney seeking reassurance / being open with Eddie. I love that they have a friendship like that. (He was so excited about meeting Chimneys brother as well. A little bit puppy and like another reason why Evan and him are friends. (As if we need more)) Also love that Eddie is secure enough to voice these feelings!
(Eddie really does seem so healed in this episode? So open? And happy? Damn, Frank, you know your shit! My man had some growth.)
Now, for some sidenotes to round off this episode, because I have some and I wanna share them:
On the Buckley parents, I think the episode wants to imply that they had plans for Buck? Maybe career wise? Because in the pool scene he says something along the lines of: āSometimes you have to put / get a little distanceā and since itās been implied that Buck is also from Pennsylvania or somewhere close by, we can assume that he was talking about himself here. Like he moved all the way across the continent.
Iām also just gonna throw out a prediction for Season 4: since Nia is only a foster child and like 2 years old, itās safe to assume that she has been only recently taken in. While I do not know the US-Foster system, I do have some knowledge about the German system, so Iāll just predict that either one or both of the birth parents try to get their child back.
Or they just sort of forget about all of this by Season 4.
And I really really really dislike the cancer storyline and how the show is handling it, at least in this episode, specifically in regards to May, who in my opinion, has been both written and treated by the show as someone younger than 18 here, only for the show to then turn around and go all: wow, such an adult, look how wise she is. So awesome. Like nah, son! 3A has shown that she is much maturer than she was treated in this episode.
And Eddie finally got to say āseen this beforeā again. I feel like he says that a lot. Should I start a counter for that too or do yaāll just wanna think about him naked for a bit? (I know, you guys, I know! Should I befriend someone who can make me a bunch of gifs of shirtless Eddie I can pepper in every time we get to heavy around here?)
Episode 3.12:
Ah, yes, āFoolsā! The one episode I have to say I can not look at without wearing my shipper goggles. So be warned.
Which is why Iām gonna start with the elephant in the room: Ana Flores.
Now, Iāve seen (and maybe liked / reblogged / queued / drafted (Idk anymore, Iām up to 600 posts in my drafts, 300 in my queue and like 300 liked / reblogged already)) an interview with Ryan Guzman where he talks about Ana and how he isnāt sure yet wether they are heading for romance and how it needs someone incredibly badass to get through Eddieās defences, because Eddie is barely over his wifeās death and yeah, that!āØLook, if youāre here, Iām gonna assume you have read the other three parts of this āmetaā and therefore know that I am a proud member of the Shannon Diaz - defense squad and will fight anyone who says a bad word about her. And you will also know that I attribute most of the stupid things Eddie did in 3A to the fact that Shannon died. So there. All caught up.
Now, as for Ana Flores herself (and Iām writing this after 3.16, so who knows what happens next): She might be in Season 4 (I think the interview said something about it or she tweeted something) but I donāt think it has been confirmed yet? So considering what Ryan said they probably wonāt end up in a relationship by the end of Season 3 (again, please remember when I am writing this).
Iām not gonna comment on the actress aside from saying, damn, I wish that were me! Other than that? I donāt really care about actors unless I think they are hot and then itās more of a: uiiii, me like-y. (Madeleine Patch, call me!)
As for the actual scenes, well, I have mixed feelings.
On the one hand side, as Iāve said before, I work with children and the idea of dating the father of one of my babies is just plain wrong to me. So there is that. Morally speaking that storyline would be trash. (And very OOC for Mr. āMy son needs to be protected above allā)
Then of course there is whatās actually happening between them which, one, from the get go she seems to not reciprocate Eddieās advances (he keeps telling her to call him Eddie, she keeps calling him Mr. Diaz). Also that whole speech about horses? Yeah, I know youāre an english teacher but Ƥhm, what? (Put it on the list, Tim, I need answers!)
To sum it up (and explain why I brought up Shannon aside from how much I like her), I donāt think itās headed for a romance quite yet? They may be playing the slowburn game, but I think it was more like Ali in Season 2. Because as @greyhello pointed out to me in Part 2, Ali might have been there to show us that Buck was ready for a commited relationship and it had never been Abby that made him like that, just as Ana is here to tell us: hey, Eddie is finally accepting his wifeās death and maybe, possibly, some time in the near future, ready to date again. Probably. Weāll see.
Aside from that, I actually think a little crush could be something healthy and healing for Mr. control issues. But, again, weāll see.
So, elephant addressed. Now letās move on.
Sidenote: I feel like the parent-teacher conference made Eddie really regret so many of his life decisions. Someone needs to tell Buck so he can make a million puns from here on out and drive Eddie crazy.
(Sidenote: Carla said ābig blue eyesā! You know who has big blue eyes? Ah, now Iām just clowning.)
Now this episode returns to the Season 2 formula of giving Eddie and Buck similar storylines:
Because while Eddie meets someone he could potentially be interested it, Buck is also made aware of his single status and the fact that he hasnāt dated in a while.
I do think Buckās stance in this episode was both curious and familiar. Familiar because it reminded me a lot of Eddie in 2.04 and I think, just like Eddie did before Shannon came back, right then Buck is closing himself off from making connections, be they physical or emotional, because he got hurt too much.
Which is why I call it curious. Because I can not decide wether I consider his behaviour growth or a step back. In Eddie it would definitely be a step back, but in Buck who had been so willing to take any chance for physical intimacy just for the sake of a connection in Season 1 to now at least seem somewhat settled in himself and comfortable with what he has does feel a little like growth? (Then again 3.16 shows us he is just scared of getting hurt again, so probably just covering up is depression.)
Also, again with the kitchen! That puts us at five (?) scenes of Buddie talking about each other or with each other in a kitchen setting (six, if you count 3.03). Now Iām probably clowning myself real hard right now, but whatever!
But I do wanna point out how comfortable Eddie and Buck are discussing Eddieās parenting struggles, which just shows how much he trusts him.
Now I know, I myself have made a textpost about Eddie discussing his parenting struggles with literally anyone, but yaāll know I was kidding, right? It isnāt actually true. In canon he talks with exactly 5 people about Christopher:
They are Christopherās therapist in āTriggersā, Carla, Hen, Lena ā¦ and Buck.
Now, here comes something interesting: For Carla and therapist, it is literally their job to help Eddie with his parenting struggles, but all the other scenes? Connected to Buck. Yeah. That.
Look, the Hen scene in the Christmas episode literally involves Buck and as Iāve said both Eddieās and Buckās reaction here heavily implied that Eddie has had a conversation with Buck about his fight with Chris before telling Hen all about it.
As for Lena, again, she is *literally* there as a substitute for Buck. She uses his locker. Her name is taped over his - and that is actually such a nice visual, that I wanna talk about it real quick, because Iāve seen it called disrespectful a few times and I donāt agree.
One, the fact that they left the āBā: funny af, someone from set dressing is probably laughing themselves silly about this and is allowed to call me now; also a constant reminder whoās locker and place she is actually occupying. Also how she can never really fully replace him, she canāt cover the hole he left fully, he is always there, lurking.
Two, the fact that it is tape: tape is slightly see through. It is temporary and easily removed. Tape is just a quick, momentary fix. Tape can be taken off / away without effort.
So to sum it up: Thereās no one he trusts more with his son.
Which is also why Buck is there at the end: because Buck is who Eddie trusts. Buck is who Eddie goes to when heās struggling as a father. Buck is who Eddie wants by his side cheering Chris on. I mean, they are literally pushing him together while Carla films (stands on the sidelines, ready to help as needed, but not fully a part of their family unit).
So, to go back to the elephant in the room? Right now Iām not at all worried about Ana Flores.
On another note itās also one of the last real Buddie scenes we got in 3B so far and while I do understand that there just wasnāt any storyline for them to do such a scene organically, I am very worried about what it could mean. Because I still remember when Teen Wolf stopped putting Tyler H and Dylan in scenes together because people kept screaming queerbaiting.
I donāt want that to happen here. I love Buddie and what it could represent but Iāve also written too much about their respective characters AND their connection by now to disregard how meaningful they ALREADY are and how important even as a platonic pairing they are. Because they make each other so much better and proof that straight man can have deep connection with each other and how two flawed people can help each other heal in a way that I donāt think any other relationship in this show shows.
Back to the episode, though. The ark between Christopher and Eddie here is truly beautiful and I love the way we see Eddie growing as a parent. And I think the show wrote those scenes so well and they felt truly natural and were incredibly important, both for Eddie and Christopher.
I do think, as much as I love Christopher always being Eddieās number one priority, no matter who Eddie ends up dating (yes, even if he dates Buck) we need to see a bit of a shift here. (Also, just in general, because Christopher will grow up, even if heāll never be as independent as a fully abled bodied child might someday be.)
Eddie needs to learn to let go of control and of Christopher a bit. Look, a partner will never come before Christopher for Eddie (unless Chris is like in his 40s and has moved out and is living his own life. And even then itāll be close.) but in order for anyone to ever fit into his life he needs to make a little space at the top and that includes taking away a bit from Christopher.
(Also just selfcare reasons, you guys, parents need to learn that itās okay to sometimes think about themselves! And we already saw Eddie break once cause it became too much, how easy do you think that can happen again?)
Sidenote: We all know Buck built that, right? Heās been shown again and again to have some mechanical / maschinary (?) understanding plus fairly interesting problem solving skills.
Episode 3.13:
I love the locker room scene. Firstly, itās a definite reminder that these three have bonded a lot and itās such a sweet familial scene.
Also Eddieās advice: yet another hint that heās healing from Shannonās death.
Compare it 3.08 and the conversation Bobby had with Eddie. There are no definite callbacks or anything like it, but it is very very very obvious that Eddie is talking about his dead wife here. Who he told he loves her in her last moments. So there.
Now, as for the healing part, could you imagine 3A!Eddie saying something like that to anyone?
Even in 3.03 or 3.06 with Buck, the person he lets himself be the most vulnerable with, there are still always terms and conditions with his words.
He trust no one more with his son, which, okay, is what the scene was about and what has the highest priority in his life but still, his trust isnāt bound to himself, itās bound to his son, not to himself, not something he has in general for Buck, but something he has for Buck in regards to his sonĀ - that Eddie trusts Buck with himself is only ever implied.
He forgives him - āalso what it means to be a part of a teamā. Eddie sort of impersonalises his forgiveness here, he doesnāt forgive him because heās Buck and heās Eddie, he forgives him because they are part of the same team.
With Eddie there is always a wall.
But here in the locker room there isnāt. Itās just: if you love her, tell her, cause you might not get another chance - Eddie certainly doesnāt have another chance to tell Shannon.
And okay, you might say, isnāt that kind of a condition as well? Saying āI love youā because tomorrow isnāt promised? And sure, it kind of is. But Eddieās also basically saying: once upon a time I told my wife, who art now in heaven, that I loved her as she was dying and then I got real mad at her and the world after because she left me and she was planning to leave me anyways and now Iām here and Iām over that and Iām just glad I got to tell her āI love herā one last time. Iām no longer angry.
Growth, you guys.
Episode 3.14:
I feel like the writers read some of yaāllās Buddie fanfiction, realised how it mischaracterised the relationship between Buck and Chimney gets and said: not on my watch!
In other words: If Eddie and Buck are different sides of the same coin, Buck and Chimney are the same sides of different coins. They share so many traits and experiences!
Now, this episode. Man, you guys, it really has me stumped. Part of me thinks it doesnāt have relevance and part of me keeps going back because it thinks it does?
Oh man, you guys, Iām lost. I donāt know.
All right, executive decision: no relevance, just another drop on the breakdown-stone that is 3.16.
Someone please tell my manās boy they need him!
Episode 3.15:
Fun fact to start yaāll off: this was only the second episode I watched somewhat live being a little new to town and the first I saw without spoiling myself on tumblr. So it has a special place in my heart any way you look at it.
(But then again this episode also involves several of my nightmares: drowning! being below earth! Being in small enclosed spaces! Being buried alive! Huge amounts of mud that will not leave your clothes and fingernails for the next six hundred years!)
Also, uhm, did I say āFoolsā was the *one* episode I could not look at without shipper goggles? So Iām contradicting myself. It happens. Move on. (Yeah, or repress it and join a fight club! Also name check me with your therapist, please! We may have breakdowns but we do them healthy around here!)
Because these fuckers went off! Whew! Iām serious, after watching the episode I sent a clip of that scene to my roommate and asked to rate how platonic this was. Which she did not. Because she doesnāt know math, apparently. - My point is, she sees it and she doesnāt know the show.
In other news this episode convinced me Oliver is pulling an Andrew Robinson (and yes, I know he said it was in the script but then Andy also followed the script, soā¦).
Sidenote: Eddie is the oldest, right? Damn, for some reason I thought he was the middle child. He has big middle child energy.
(Also why they namedrop Galveston like that? I googled it an itās just a town? Why, Tim, why?) (At this point he is just torturing me, I know it. This feels personal.)
Anyways, this episode, you guys! I have thoughts! (And they are very hard to put in order so please excuse any jumping around at this point.)
The birthscene is great and can we just for a moment think about 25 year old Eddie hugging his mother in law so very lovingly? Heās so happy here. So soft. (Also Iām about to turn 25? I would not be able to deal with being married right now either?)
And yes, this episode confirms that Eddie has killed people, and while I know it was selfdefense, I just, itās very weird to me because these characters have become so real to me, so to see one of them kill without a care is kinda off-putting. (This is why I will always consider Eddie grey and why I can never consider Buck white - because he had been planning on joining the Seals meaning he had to consider the possibility of killing and has probably learned to kill (Do you think thatās why heās so non aggressive? because he knows he could take everyone down?))
Iām just gonna come out and say it: anyone who says Eddie isnāt impulsive has not watched this show. In fact Iād even say he is more impulsive than Buck.
Yes, Buck will do weird and dumb shit on a whim because the thought just crossed his mind and it sounds good and he doesnāt think about the consequences, but just does it. (I could make a case that our boy has ADHD but this is not what this meta is about)
But Eddie? Eddie is impulsive in his reactions. Everytime he is in distress (emotional not physical) he stops thinking about consequences and just starts reacting. Especially if itās about a child!
Shannon is pregnant - lets sign up for the army.
Our child has a developmental disorder - lets stay in the army.
My parents want to take away my child - lets move halfway across the country.
(Not allowed to talk to your best friend? - lets go streetfighting.)
Eddie probably thinks these things through to a point and he mostly has a plan, but he is so reactionary. He is like a raw nerve and thatās what makes him impulsive.
Itās why, instead of letting them pull him out enough until he can radio, Eddie cuts the fucking line. Because this is a child, this could be Christopher and Eddie needs to be enough to save him.
(Are you crying yet?)
Iām not gonna talk about Afghanistan except to say: ah, Eddie. My man, you are enough! Always!
(But maybe that was his guilt over killing talking? Maybe he does feel bad?)
Also why did the woman emphasis āStaff Sergeantā like that? Was that an indicator that Eddie got promoted?
Also Eddie the fucking boy scout / alter boy / goody goody two shoes trying to get up because of a superior office despite lying in a hospital bed (and not even having been cleaned from his blood yet, urgh thatās gotta itch!)
Sidenote: in light of 3.16: do you think Eddie still talks to Mills, Binder, Norwahl and what all their names are or do you think that would be too hard for him? Iām leaning toward not talking but I really liked Mills (she reminded me of Buck and Lena, tbh.)
And now, for our regular scheduled program: Shannon and Eddie.
First of all I loved all of it. I loved that we could really understand why Shannon left. I love how much they clashed but still had those little moments of recognition.
And look: The juice box scene was very rough. Eddie is likely currently suffering from PTSD, definitely having a culture shock and here is his wife who is barely holding on as well and she just wants to leave, she canāt deal anymore and both of them are so desperate and wow, just wow. Kudos Ryan and kudos Devin Kelley, Iām sad we wonāt see you again, but I do hope Iāll see you somewhere else one of these days!
Iāve talked about their relationship a lot already, so Iām not sure if I have any fresh takes but I will remind you of a few you already know:
Eddie is not in love with Shannon after Afghanistan (havenāt decided yet if he was in love with her in the birth scene)
Shannon *needed* Eddie to open up to her just as much as she needed to be open with her
Eddie was not able to be emotionally intimate with his wife
they cared about each other very very much and I do think they tried
they are family (remember what I said in part 2 about Eddie talking to the 118 about Shannon? This here proof that he definitely defended her actions at some point to them as well)
Shannon was in an impossible situation with her mother and a special needs child and likely burned out and just ā¦ she needed someone to have her back, which Eddie couldnāt because he himself was suffering from PTSD at that point
Iām still mad as fuck, they killed her off! If they give Eddie any other endgame romance that isnāt Buddie without like two seasons buildup after killing off HIS WIFE I will riot!
Which brings me to Eddie and his parents which was rough, you guys!
Look, as someone who worked with children I can see where his parents are coming from in that scene but also wow, just wow.
How cold and insensitive and fuck, no wonder someone is repressed as shit, that was horrifying and I really canāt talk about this more than to say this hurts and also explains too much about Eddie. (Can we have the locker room three bonding about having horrible parents in Season 4, please, Tim? And can Buck come too? We could do it at the loft?)
As for his conversation with Christopher, obviously it was cute as fuck and also I love how he began the conversation talking to his child like every adult male I have ever met talking to a kid about something he knows will go over itās head (āItās like weāre talking about completely different people.ā). (Okay, maybe not just adult males. Maybe we all talk like that around children sometimes. I know I do.)
I really liked how they reinforced once again that Eddie wasnāt a natural at being a dad (compare how he holds his son to season 1 Buck who most definitely knows how to handle a child (And now Iām wondering if him being good at it was always planned or a āOliver did a great job the first time we had him interact with a child so we decided to make it a traitā-thing. Damn you, Tim, for making me think so much!)) but became good at it because he was willing to learn and he cared! Dads of the world (also Moms, we arenāt all super duper either) take note!
That being said the conversation also left a bit of a bitter taste in my mouth because, one, it felt a little petulant of Eddie to turn around and leave for LA, the way it was presented here and two, Christopher at that point didnāt understand yet what Eddie was actually asking him about and it felt a bit like manipulation. Please everyone, do not consider a conversation like that consent from a child. Any adult can get a child that age to say anything they want because children just want to be liked (Itās why when children are involved in criminal proceedings itās so hard to interview them because children follow every suggestion because they think this is what the adults want them to say.).
Now, letās talk about puppy!boy for a second!
In 1.05 Buck tells Abby: āno one is good when itās personalā - well guess what buddy boys, this one is very personal for one Evan āBuckā Buckley, thank you very much, that boy is losing it.
Okay, letās compare it to the episode before and then two episodes later:
Now, obviously the situation with Maddie was a little different. Mainly because this was a hostage situation and he realised (because Seal training, remember?) that there wasnāt a lot he could do to help her right then but then again ā¦ neither was there in Season 2 when Maddie was in danger and he still acted far more frantic in the car with Athena than he did here? Like the only stupid thing he did was drive a little dangerously this time?
And of course, two episodes later we see Bobby react when Athena is in danger and while we donāt see him be frantic we do see him get ready to kill someone, so, yeah!āØ It could of course be inconsistent writing or deliberate to keep the attention and worry more on the people in the call centre but since they havenāt pulled anything like that before Iām leaning more into my clowning.
I mean, we also have to consider that Buck was Eddieās lifeline here, he was supposed to be the one to get him out, so he feels extra responsible but then again we have Hen make this comment about having two cut lines, which of course says that Hen thinks that one: whatever reason Eddie had to cut his line will definitely be considered a just as valid reason by Buck to cut his line but also: BUCK WOULD DECIDE TO DIE DOWN THERE WITH EDDIE. Sorry for the yelling, but no, I do not think Buck acted out of character in 3.14.
(Which is very irresponsible, you guys. You are fathers! What happens to Christopher when yaāll die in a well somewhere in fictional California? I can not live in fictional California! I will not be taking care of your child, Buddie! Figure it out yourself! No. We are done here! This conversation is over!)
(Okay, not quite, because I actually donāt think that would be realistic! More realistic: Buck giving Eddie his harness so he can get pulled out first and then dying down there alone.)
Like Iāve said in the at the beginning: Oliver might be pulling an Andrew Robinson. It might have just been the way they thought Buck would act if he lost Eddie while being responsible. It might have been fever making him delirious (which, btw, kudos! Because you can hear how sore his throat was and omg, that shirt hurt!)
Never mind I found the heavy focus on Buck in an episode about Eddie fairly curious - which is why now itās video-talk time!
First: I will not bear Shannon slander around here! Yes, she was in way less scenes than Buck, but the actress also was never a main character, so yaāll need to remember there are like 2 scenes of them as a family. And they probably didnāt have the time, money and energy to film some just for a montage - especially considering that the three of them have hardly been a family together, because first Eddie was gone and then Shannon, soā¦
But yes, we do have to admit that Buck was in most scenes, and yes, we do have to consider the implications of this which are: Buck is definitely a vital member of the Diaz family and when Eddie says: Iām always gonna come home to my family, this now includes Buck and I hope we see him tell him that at one point in the final cause I need him to!
And then of course there is also the radio scene in the beginning (which lead to one of my proudest tumblr-moments to date in form of this post!) which did ease us into the concept of Bucky-boy being a member of the Diaz family! So it is canon now?!
One thing I wanna point out about the school scene in the end in regards to this is that little boyās question. Sure they used it as transition to calling Christopher his good luck charm but, uhm, why did they have Buck ask about it in the beginning then? Why have this sort of unnecessary callback to the beginning of the episode unlessĀ they want us to remember Buck?
Something to ponder for the next week, I think.
Also the episode sort of reinforced my believe that we donāt really have to worry about Ana Flores. Sure, this scene was also a chance for Eddie to redeem himself in front of a teacher he screamed at just a few weeks prior but the only interaction they had was her asking that question at the end and Eddie hardly looked at her.
(Also, if they really wanted to reinforce Eddie being interested in her, they could have had Carla make a dig about it in the beginning, even with Christopher there, but they didnāt, which to me confirms that they donāt really know what to do with her yet.)
At least Ryan was finally taking his shirt off again, I know thatās like catnip for yaāll.
Episode 3.16:
One thing that really confuses me is how many people seem to think this episode points out only how important romantic relationship are and I donāt see that?
I mean, I see that itās one of the points that is being made but I donāt think itās the only possible reading of this episode.
To me it was about connection and family more than anything.
It begins actually with Eddie (the person most connected to Buck) being the first person to decline Buckās invite, not in favour of spending time with a romantic partner, but because he has a prior commitment with his son! (And several other people, including, but not limited to, at least 2 other nine year olds. For Eddies sake I hope less than 5 or that Carla is around because he is a single father and children unionise by nature.)
And it continues with Buck by forming a connection to Red and then bonding with Maddie.
And can I just say, before we delve more into all of this, how proud I am of Evan āBuckā Buckley after this episode? Just look at him!
This is Buck at his lowest, lower even than during the lawsuit, because back then he had something to fight against, which he doesnāt have here. Because he canāt stop other people from leaving him (that is the whole point of the episode after all) and what does he do? Instead of going full on Buck 1.0 and just finding the nearest interested person to form a meaningless physical connection with to substitute for the lacking emotional intimacy he craves so much, he goes to a bar alone and befriends an old man. And spends the rest of the episode bonding with him. And bonding with his sister. And addressing his issues, both with his sister and his family. That is huge!
(Which is why Iāve decided him not wanting to date? Symptom of his deeper issues, yes, but also a sign of growth.)
And Iāve seen some people on my dash talk about how, compared to most other 911 episodes, this episode has a fairly bleak ending, which one I agree with, two think is actually a theme with Buck centric episodes, but three donāt actually mind / think is a bad thing? Itās fairly realistic after all.
To get personal one second: I remember being a very idealistic 20-year old intern working in the foster system five years ago and my mentor, who was less than 10 years older than me but fairly badass teaching me something that technically is a well known proverb but that I, a idealistic 20-year old, had not actually understood until I worked there and saw it myself: manchmal muss man den Karren an die Wand fahren Ā - translation: sometimes you have to let the trolley drive into the wall, which means sometimes you have to let things play out till itās natural end before you can help. Or to use an english proverb: Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom.
And this is what Iām thinking - no, hoping - is happening here. Because, look, you donāt just solve like 20 or more years of abandonment issues in one episode and considering what a big part of Buckās character from the moment we met him they have been, that would have been unsatisfying to watch anyways!āØWhat we need right now, in terms of Buckās storyline is catharsis. A cleansing. Buck needs to get to his worst (which I think he did or he will, once he talks to Abby) before he can begin to get better, can begin to heal, can begin to learn that he is not alone. And that is not a bad thing!
And yes, I know our boy is suffering and we along with him because we all love Evan Buckley to death but sometimes you gotta let things break so you can fix them instead of just putting tapes over the holes you see (haha, see what I did there?).
As for the episode, here we go:
I wanna start with something else real quick which is Henās subplot which I found important. Because they addressed that hey, she went through a trauma not to long ago as well and maybe she is not as okay with it as we thought?
Also it shows Bobbyās double standard again, but then I think he would have reacted differently if the guy had died and it was evident Hen realised she should never pull a stunt like that again. And maybe Iām giving Bobby a bit to much credit right now. Urgh.
I do wanna say, while Chimney seemed fine at the end with what went down we did see his reaction in the next episode and honestly he is mad, itās just that Hen is his best friend and Chimney lives on the principle of forgive and forget so there.
Now I do really like the rope rescue scene because it was badass and also because Eddie seems so done in the beginning and Bobby just looks at him like: well, heās not doing it alone and heās probably not gonna cut his rope!
(Also notice how Eddie cut his rope willingly but Buckās was cut for him? What does that mean? - For reals, I may see the connection but I canāt yet make out the meaning.)
But I did appreciate Henās comments about them being their best guys a lot! I kind of want an episode like they used to do on Star Trek were they focus on background characters and give us the way everyone probably sees Buddie as some kind of superhuman supermen who pull the craziest stunts and somehow make it!āØAnd now, letās get into Evan!
First of, I now Cindy was meant as a parallel to Abby but I also think to Ali because Abby didnāt leave because she couldnāt handle the fear but Ali did. So there, a sort of Ali Martin mention! Thanks for listening, Tim.
But of course with everything else Cindy is quite the parallel to Abby from the way she just left and Red never really got closure, just like Buck.
What is interesting though is that Red, different to Buck, doesnāt want closure. He wants to remember the good times and imagine what could have been. (This could of course be due to the fact that his life is about to end.)
Buck on the other hand side really craves closure, and look, I know when we first learned she is definitely coming back I was really unhappy about that, but since then we learned they run into each other which makes it fine to me. Because I thought weād have another instance of Buck running after Abby for validation and I did not want that. But heās not actually running after her, itās just a coincidence so Iām happy for him getting a chance to have closure, finally.
And this is were I think the episode proofs that itās not about romantic love as the only way to be fulfilled, first because after talking about Abby Buck asks āDo you think Iām lonely?ā which is not about romance at all (had they wanted to make it about love it would have been: āDo you think Iāll find love again?ā or something). Also the conclusion of this episode is Maddie telling Buck he is different to Red because he has her (and in general those scenes between them, yes, they were also about Abby because she was another person Buck has been left by but just like they mention a best friend in terms of people Maddie left behind it is not about the romantic aspect, it is about people he loves in general), because he has a sister and she wonāt leave him again - so there, familial love! The pinky swear! The importance of family. (see 3.11)
Also had it really been about love you know what would have happened since then? Weād have seen Buck calling Abby! Maddie would have said something about Buck still being young and having time to meet someone! Instead Abby and Buck run into each other by accident and Maddie makes a pinky swear to never leave again, so yeah, I just think sometimes we need to wait for how stuff plays out before we judge.
Now of course I wanna mention the pool scene as well.
Firstly, I know we already traced a lot of what Buck says at the end back to Eddie and the grocery store but did yaāll here Chimney say: āSeems like your making this about yourselfā and Bobby implying the same thing, so yeah, I wonder if it was them quoting Eddie or if this is what everyone is supposed to be thinking or if it was just a setup for the breakdown at the end.
Also letās talk about Eddie real quick here, because I found it really weird that they didnāt reference his platoon from Afghanistan here? Like they could have easily have him say āIām not in the army anymore but I still talk to my old platoon.ā, especially since we MET them one episode before. So either they didnāt think of that, they wanted to reinforce the fear Buck has or Eddie may just be as lonely as Buck?
(Guess which way Iām leaning?)
(Look, children are great but they are no substitute for friends and adult conversation, just saying!)
But I love how hard Mr. Stoic and emotionally unavailable tries to reassure Buck, tries to be there for him. And also did yaāll notice how, once Eddie speaks for the first time Buckās focus never strays from him. Hen and Chimney and Bobby talk as well but it seems as if Buck never looked away from Eddie. (Which, definitely get that, he looked good here.) Also how Buck stresses the āThat better not happen to usā - man, what conversation could he be referencing? Man, I wish I had memorised this show by now so I could tell you about two scenes that happened in 3A between Buddie where the topic of us was emphasised a lot but alas I donāt and I canāt.
What the pool scene also proofs once more is that the 118 just like an actual family has a lot of communication issues because Hen and Chimney not being in contact with Tommy or so is a completely different situation but because of their bad communication they donāt realise that this is something they need to explain to Buck because they think this is about Red.
Bobby doesnāt get it either tbh.
But we all know who does, look, I said it about 3.03 and Iāll say it now: Eddie knows Buck. Eddie understands Buck. And Eddie is on the path of realising that Buck needs him to say the actual words and not just let his actions speak!āØAnd my my if all of this pays off I will be one happy camper! (Hums Rihanna āWe found love in a hopeless placeā)
On a sidenote I hate that Red pegged Buck as a hothead because he really really isnāt! Heās just excitable and sometimes struggles with expressing himself and that frustrates him!
Also I never noticed the apartment had an outside area? did we know this? There is a grill?
Also really would love to see Gigi / Dana Strattford again, I liked her, sheās pretty! (But not like to date one of my guys, Tim, kay?)
(Also whats Officer Williams up to these days? Asking for ā¦ a friend?)
And to round this episode up: Oliver still looked so sick at times and they put a lot more makeup on him than they normally do? Usually you can see the slight scaring on his face but this episode you couldnāt but you could see the tears / snot mixing with all the makeup when he was crying and honestly, not his best look! (He still makes it work, though! Just saying, I miss 1.02 / 3.02 / 3.03 Buck, I know these episodes hurt but visually they are peak!)
Episode 3.17:
Was that episode amazing? Yes.
Am I still cackling about Oliver Stark having too much leg? Yes.
Did I love the Frank mention with all my heart? Yes.
Was Michaelās meet cute in an elevator less gay than any Buddie scene we got so far specifically any in 2.01 also known as their meet-ugly? That was a rhetorical question, you guys.
As for that comment I wouldnāt put too much stock into it. I mean, if youāre a single guy and you get invited out to fifth wheel at a double date with your sister and her boyfriend and his best friend and her wife, no matter how close you are, you will feel awkward so of course you invite the other single guy who happens to be your best friend who happens to be part of the friendgroup AND the team youāre working with making this a definite team/family/work - outing.
That being said: it took me 23h to come up with a reasonable explanation for this comment and I did scream at my laptop and pause the episode after it was made and I have been thinking āBuddieā confirmed about 100 times since then!
Also, they just spent a shit ton of time together, right? Like, if Buckās there than so is Eddie and if Eddie is there than so is Buck and Iām clowning and not calm anymore!
Maybe āBuck invites Eddieā can be our always?
In other news this episode has absolutely no relevance for anything, but I love it deeply.
And we made it you guys! It was slower going but it worked!
Thank you to everyone who read so far and thank you to everyone who has been liking and reblogging and commenting! I donāt think Iāll ever be able to express how much this means to me!
(Also please keep doing that! I too am an excitable puppy looking for validation!)
Now, to tag:
@angelcamael, @greyhello, @ipleiade, @the-family-we-choose-118Ā @chimbuckleys @sevensoulmates
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Roswell New Mexico - Live Rewatch - Ep 3 -Ā Tearin' Up My Heart
What matters is the science
The power to heal or harm. Hhhhmm, I wonder who else that might apply to in the future?
Hey lab rat!
Subtle, Liz. Real subtle.
No, he's not just stressed Liz
It's all a plan to get Max to get his gear off.
His heart isn't racing because he's scared of Liz. Neither of these people has a subtle bone in their body.
Die Jesse Manes Die
Hey there Kyle.
Alien hunting buddy, four war hero sons.
"Are you calling Alex faint of heart?" You go Kyle.
Die Jesse Manes Die
See now I think this is where Jesse made his biggest mistake. Threatening Kyle's life is one thing, but threatening his friends. That just kicks his protective side into high gear. Especially when it comes to ALex who he feels he owes. Probably gets his competitive side going as well
OMG Kyles face as Jesse walks away.
"I don't need an Airman, I need a Valenti"
"The light show whenever I feel anything" Yeah, we know what your talking about Max
Yeah, we know why you didn't Iz and Michael about the experiments.
So that's a yes then.
"Please don't touch me". Oh, that's gonna hurt the feels
Busted. Not sure how I feel about that shirt Iz is wearing though. I think we might be trying a bit too hard for the New Mexico aesthetic.
"We have a connection, we did, I think" Not too sure there Max
OK, now that's just mean Iz, with the Kyle/Liz hookup.
Especially when you know it's gonna hurt Max.
Now here we have on rewatch the first scene where I'm not sure if it's Iz or Noah??
Where she talks about his hand print on Liz's chest, just seems a bit Noah like??
Which would also explain the meanness?
Arguements about who knows each other best and relationships built on lies.
That's a set of criteria where everyone is on pretty shaken ground at this stage.
Max as golden retriever or X-file. Kyle being all caregivery. Fuck, I would give anything to see him in a nice white shirt. Sorry, I digress.
Provocation. Another theme we see again and again through the show.
Not a fan of this whole treasure hunt storyline tbh
Yes Kyle, we all love Max because he's tall.
OK Nancy Drew"
Fuck, you cannot just cut to THIS scene like that. Fuck me.
The song, the hand caressing that skin.
Fuuuuccck
Once again I am not emotionally prepared.
"Your awake"
"You staaayed"
God, such little dialogue that just tells us so much.
That Michael isn't used to Alex being there in the morning. That he leaves.
The way Michael looks over at Alex. So soft and happy.
Alex's barely there smile as he looks at Michael.
They just break my heart these two.
Fuck me.
The physical intimacy in this scene is just.... I don't even have words for it. It's so soft and gentle and ...
Michael's face.
It's just such an amazing scene especially for a queer couple.
The chemistry these two have as actors is insane.
God fucking damn it Isobel.
And fuck here it comes.
"it's just Isobel"
"Does she know about us?"
"would it be so bad if she did?"
"Yeah"
"Nah, don't worry about it"
Fuck me. Michael goes from being so happy to being someone's dirty little secret in seconds.
Now I'm pretty sure that's not what Alex thinks, but that's sure as shit how Michael interprets it.
All his insecurity and self-loathing just brings his armour back up.
oh shit yeah
It applies just as much to Alex as well.
The thing that hurts to the most is that Michael is so resigned to it. Like yep, this is how it always goes.
And I think that might apply to not just Alex, but other people he sleeps with. Good enough to fuck, but not good enough to be seen with. And that's just fucked up.
Especially for someone like Michael who is so tactile. That his way of connecting with people is so distained.
And Alex's face. He know's he's hurt Michael, even though that wasn't his intention.
But as they say, about paving the road to hell.
Tbh honest, I didn't notice until it was discussed in another channel that this ISN'T the morning after "I never look away" and that the Airstream has moved.
I blame opening the scene with all that golden skin. It's very distracting.
I offer that line as public domain to any fic writer that wants it!!
God how I hate that Michael is probably alot of people's dirty little secret. Fuck them.
"He's letting Liz experiment on him"
"Please say sexually"
Not gonna lie. THat is one of the best lines ever on tv.
Also Michael with no shirt.
Also if they ever get Michael in a nice white button up I'm gonna die.
Yes I have a white shirt kink.
Iz's face. :laughing:
Kids, kids kids. Have we learned nothing?
Plans involving Liz never end well.
Secrets, always about the secrets
Mix cd
Clues, Nancy Drew
Teen melodrama is our thing.
So cheeky Liz. It's a good look on you.
Liz is wearing armour lipstick.
Of course Maria is coming on the treasure hunt.
Cam buying Max a first edition. Nerd boner. Don't ever change Cam.
Max, max, max. It's not the time.
Don't dig into the past. HOld onto the good memories. Exactly the advice Kyle gave Liz last ep.
And he doesn't listen either. Lucky he's so pretty.
I really hope we get to see the hold your hair while puking, slash your exe's tires Rosa in S2. It's such a great description by Maria. Gives a great sense of the real Rosa.
"She's isn't what leftover in the dirty crevices of this town." That is such a great line - gives a great insight into Maria.
which in no way makes up for that fucking powder blue skivvy he wore!! Jesus that was ugly. So I need more white shirts to balance it out. Bonus points for linen.
But more likely on Kyle than Michael, not that I wouldn't be cool with that.
Ophiuchus
Liz's don't lie to me face.
And here we go with more heart break. THis show never stops.
I love so much that in this fandom a dark green and black flannel shirt is what constitutes the "slutty" outfit.
I love that he is alergic to buttons.
Scared of not being the number 1 person in Max's life. Tbh. he's not wrong.
Michael and his touching people to check in with them.
Annnd here comes the start of more pain.
Not to be shallow, but Alex's outfit in this scene is interesting. I know we haven't seen him in civies much yet, but even so this stands out. It's such a light palette. So different to the dark colours we've seen before and everything that we see him in after.
A reflection of the lightness he feels from reconnecting with Michael? That disappears after the drive in and never really returns for the rest of the season?
Maybe? I lean towards more unconscious choice.
A willingness to be seen?
Which then is picked up later with his "can't be seen with a criminal" comments.
?
Where he goes back to not standing out, even in civies
Gods, the looks on their faces. They just love each other so much but Alex is still struggling.
Alex's smile when Michael sits down.
Kyle you are so gonna get busted.
Your mum is the sheriff dude.
Seriously Max. take a fucking chill pill.
I know it's the overpower but seriously. How do people not notice?
Yes Kyle, this massive over reaction is about Liz.
OK, I know Kyle is doing it on purpose, but that is cold.
Kyle, Kyle, Kyle, alot of people want to hit you, don't encourage them.
And even if he was human Max has height and weight on him as well.
That smart arse smirk of Kyle's.
Damn, Jenna looks good with her hair like that.
Damn Kyles eyes.
And Kyle's little puff after Max leaves. He knows how close he came to getting his arse kicked in some way.
Die Jesse Manes Die.
Alex, ALex don't listen to the evil man. Please!!
And what about Michael, sitting so close to the man who mutilated him? Any person would have trouble keeping their cool.
Knowing Jesse is around is one thing, but what must it do to Micahel to see him like this?
"Can't lie to a psychic, hmm mmm"
Liz, spying on Max and Cam is a little bit creepy. Jealous much?
Not sure why Iz sees Rosa when trying to influence Liz??
Oh, Rosa's saying the lines she says to Iz later on after Noah is exposed.
Run and puke face.
Don't be a douche MIchael
Might not be a high school crush. More paralleling.
Max, don't be a dick to Cam. More than just try. And don't make it sound like a burden for fuck sakes.
"xenophobia sells more tickets"
I have Maria boot envy
And here comes the heartbreak
"I was dating a Chad"
"All the Chad's end up being Chad's"
That is some grade A dialogue right there.
Poor Diego
2 min break, I need a hot drink to stop myself coughing.
BRB
Could be. Might also be that Noah's blocks are weakening?
You go for it Cam.
Oh OK. Max you fucking dork.
OMG Liz, not cool.
Cam shutting this shit down right now.
Max making possibly the worst life choice ever seen on tv
Kyle Manuel Valenti!
And the most shit I'm busted face ever seen on a grown man.
Kyle why did you say love triangle? Don't say that.
Totally, he's hopeless but extra hopeless when your Mum is sheriff.
Sheriff Valenti has Jesse mans sussed out.
Tbh, I feel Max's pain as Liz reads out that letter. I found some stuff recently that I wrote at that age. OMFG, it was pretentious and oh so serious.
I like the hot sauce homage to OG
And then Liz just goes all in.
Don't do it Alex.
Fair warning I'm about to say some stuff about Alex that people might not like.
"I'm an airman, I can't be with a criminal".
Gods, Alex, no. You just let your Dad win.
You just told Michael he isn't important.
"All my life, the system has put me at the mercy of ciminals"
This line. FUck me.
Just another example of Michael flat out telling people the honest, painful, fucking private truth about his life and people then just blowing him off.
He just does it over and over again and then people have the fucking gall to say "we didn't know" How the fuck did you not know?
From anyone else it's bad but from Alex? Alex who knows Michael, who knows Michaels life, who has seen more of the cruelty of the world than anyone else in the show, from Alex it's a betrayal.
Yep, and using that as an excuse just compounds it. Because he's using the actions that Michael takes in order to survive against him. Compounds that betrayal.
And for me, if any action by Alex could be described as being a dick move, it's this one.
And I know why Alex does it, I really, really do, but fuck, it's still really, really bad.
And, And, all this happens in Michael's truck, his home, that Alex fucking knows he lived in during high school.
"Just trying to survive it"
Again, truth.
Not live, not escape. Survive.
Exactly.
Yes, he is Michael.
Fuck no, Alex. You don't get to say that. You don't get to blame Michael for your choices.
And Michael's sigh. Not even disappointed. Just resigned. Same ole, same ole.
Fair cop Liz. You don't really think Max killed Rosa.
But I'm also sorted glad they didn't make Liz into the sort of person who dismisses her own experience and world view just because she likes someone.
Max, it's not you place to decide what Liz can handle.
"That's what everything is about for me". Max, Max, Max. I'm impressed you could say that without coming off as a creepy stalker type.
You know what Max, now would be an excellent time to come clean about everything, just sayin'.
true
Noah, Noah
"I knew what I was marrying into" we now know what an understatement that was from Noah.
Gotta be honest, telling your husband that someone else is your person is a bit harsh.
You have two unhappy brothers Iz, pay attention.
True, but also Michael's abuser as well? I sort of read it as they both know the other isn't OK and they just don't talk about it with each other?
Noah, I'm trying really hard to block out that you are not a good guy.
Maria - "Max is so harmless" and Liz's face.
Kyle, Kyle, Kyle.
I really like how they actually have the smart person (a doctor) actaually be smart? He knows Jesse has power.
Paul Ryan comment
He cooperates just enough. Though I think part of that is he still doesn't trust Max.
Oh yeah
Max loosing his shit
Shut up Jesse, just shut the fuck up.
Yeah, not subtle but still good.
Overall not a bad episode.
As I said, not really a fan of the treasure hunt storyline.
I'm really happy with the way they handled Kyle dealing with Jesse. Again another example of a storyline that would drag out for seasons on other shows.
More backstory for Alex and Michael. My poor boys.
Love Maria giving us a more balanced view of Rosa. Who I am really looking forward to seeing in S2.
Yep, so many examples of how out of the loop people are keeping Maria. And we know it's just going to get worse. I really need for them to give her an opportunity in S2 to really rip into everyone for keeping her in the dark.
And Jesse fucking Manes. Just about everything he says makes sense. He's actually right about aliens. Even right about there being bad ones. But we also know that he's a violent, vindictive dick.
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So some of this is right, but a lot of it is actually less dark than tiny probably depressed ninja was thinking! Also, for context, at the time I was coming up with the idea I
1) had no way to rewatch the show on demand
2) was very interested in those aus where Danny gets captured by the guys in white or other shady large organizations for long periods of time
3) didn't really ship any main pairings for reasons I had not examined at the time, and mostly was kind of slapping two characters together going SURE WHY NOT
So to be honest there wasn't a ton of thought in terms of matching plot to the actual episode.
(I stand by the last two points still, for different reasons now. Like ghosts in the closet by myaibou is one of my top favorite fics of all time, and tbh sam and Danny are still more interesting in general as friends to me)
But general gist was that the guys in white have connected Danny Fenton to Danny Phantom, and think he's impersonating a living person despite being dead. This is actually something they could possibly theorize in canon, what with reality trip and them chasing Gregor thinking he's phantom in the actual episode? They don't want to just out and out capture Fenton, on the off chance that they're wrong, and also because if they're right the kid clearly has support from some annoyingly loyal friends and family, so they need a way to get close to phantom and disappear Fenton without raising suspicion.
Enter Elliot!! I think at some point I considered the idea that he could be a higher up's kid, but mostly he just kind of shows up from somewhere. In the same way that the normal American military has super shady recruitment practices and training programs in high school, (and I'm pretty sure other orgs can hire high school interns in real life), the guys in white, already in a position to get around a bunch of normal regulations, have hired and trained a teenage spy. Elliot, for his part, is fully brainwashed at first going "yeah for sure all ghosts are bad the government is always correct about everything and there's nothing wrong with me basically being a child soldier!!! āŗļø Anyway I'm going to go lie and manipulate my peers because some dudes twice my age who aren't competent enough to catch more than one or two ghosts at a time told me to."
They have him go after Sam because they think Danny's possessive of her, and because if they can make him focus on her and drive a wedge between Danny and his friends at the same time, it becomes super easy to capture him!
So they do that. Like they fully succeed, capture Danny, and forge a note from him saying he's running away from home because he's so upset about Sam and "Gregor", so that nobody will look for him in the giw's clutches, and Elliot then reveals himself to Sam and Tucker a bit after that as a fake (he doesn't really talk in his normal voice or act like himself, but he's not as dishonest as he could be considering how many blatant lies he's telling them), and claims he's gotten bored with Sam because she's "like, obsessed with that geek guy who totally disappeared on you". He then goes home to wherever he lives near the giw headquarters and gets permission to go see phantom locked up, because he's got pretty high clearance already and also he helped capture him!! Let him laugh at the terrible ghost he helped capture!
The guys in white, while Elliot has been tying up loose ends and wheedling his handlers for clearance, have very quickly realized that Danny is a bit different from the ghosts they captured before. He doesn't separate from Fenton ever, and he requires food and sleep and a bathroom and generally a bunch of stuff a ghost shouldn't actually need to maintain their power levels? So their hypothetical about him possessing Fenton might have been wrong, which means they're working super hard on setting up ways to... Investigate him more.
Anyway, Elliot finally visits Danny in his tiny little cell, expecting to get to gloat at the powerful ghost he helped capture, and he finds Danny Fenton, way more haggard than he was before, sitting on the cot super close to the thick glass/ghost shield wall at the front of the tiny cell, eating a small portion of the cheapest food sold at the facility cafeteria.
And Elliot is still in high school, he's not exactly an expert on ghosts, or death, or anything, but he didn't think ghosts could eat? And he thought they'd get Phantom to stop impersonating a human by now?
And he hates ghosts, like any reasonable human, but Danny spent the entire time they interacted in Amity Park glaring at him with a burning passion, and he's a little younger than Elliot, and if he's really a ghost then that means he's dead? Which is kind of a lot to deal with on its own, but there's also the fact that the guy looks. So small, and defeated, and miserable. It's been less than two weeks.
The kid is still breathing. Elliot doesn't want to think about what that means. He looks up at Elliot suddenly, like he just noticed him after ten minutes straight of staring, and suddenly he looks furious, a flush rising to his cheeks (that shouldn't be possible, he's supposed to be dead?), and Elliot is falling over himself apologizing and trying to leave and trying to figure out if there's anything he can do to fix this all at once.
He goes back the next week, maybe to convince himself that Danny's actually inhuman and evil, maybe to try to find something helpful to do, maybe just to assuage his guilt, because none of this was his plan and a lot of it was a powerful organization taking advantage of a kid eager to do something good and helpful, but the same gullibility that got him recruited in the first place is definitely causing him to fully blame himself anyway. Danny has noticable wounds by the time he comes back, and the same intensity in his glare, and he fully dedicates himself to getting Danny out of there as soon as they lock eyes the second time.
*pulls out au I used to roll around in my head at age 12 where gregor/elliot was actually working with the GiW all along, and then almost immediately became a double agent when he realized Danny was half human* but what if we did this again
#sorry this kind of turned into fic#they start having romantic feelings like a full decade later after they finally escape#never really nailed down plot points beyond that#like the escape methods and circumstances and what exactly happened to danny in the meantime changed regularly#at one point i think i had them create Danielle as an experiment and as danny got weaker and therefore less useful as a lab rat?#which moved up the escape timeline so instead of escaping in an ideal situation it was Danny and Elliot and a full toddler/5 year old#on the run from the government#having just blown up a government facility#where were sam and tucker and jazz for this? very gullible!#like completely out of character gullible!#i don't ascribe to ghost obsessions as a common thing but i can see why characters in universe might#so i kind of had them going 'oh Danny's obsession was Sam and he made up guys in white stuff to try and break up her and Gregor '#'and when that didn't work he ran away instead'#and then Sam and Tucker felt so betrayed about this that they didn't look for him as hard as they could#and by the time they attempted to look harder the giw had already managed to hide him from the boooomerang and such#jazz just is not the most competent solo ghost hunter so she's putting her energy into trying to help her parents search for human Danny#and then the reunion usually went something along the lines of (spiderman meme) You betrayed me a decade ago!!
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you think this is a game anon? you send in 1-99 iām gonna do 1-99 so HERE WE H*CKING GO
ā1) Sexuality?ā
bi! even tho iām not attracted to many boys (and i actually only seriously like one) i still consider myself to be a groovy bisexual
ā2) If you could meet anyone on this earth, who would it be?ā
any of the monkees! but also paul mccartney!
ā3) Grab the book nearest to you, turn to page 23, give me line 17.ā
hereās an excerpt from the nearest book,Ā āāthe everything reading music bookāā:Ā āThe terms measure and bar can be used in place of one another - they mean the same thing.ā very educational!
ā4) What do you think about most?ā
itās probably pathetic but i probably think about story concepts the most! either that or monkees stuff but sometimes they can be the same thing
ā5) What does your latest text message from someone else say?ā
my latest text is from my dude sean a.k.a joj-n-ringo who said that he sent me loads of asks about nwa but somehow i didnāt get any of themĀ
ā6) Do you sleep with or without clothes on?ā
always with! sleeping naked is weird and plus i hate my body and donāt wanna look at it SKJALKJAKLHDKSJLKN
ā7) Whatās your strangest talent?ā
i dunno! i donāt really have any weird talents!
ā8) Girlsā¦. (finish the sentence); Boysā¦. (finish the sentence)ā
girlsā¦are neat! boysā¦are also neat!
ā9) Ever had a poem or song written about you?ā
no oneās ever written me a song but iāve had friends write me poems before! itās nice and i love it
ā10) When is the last time you played the air guitar?ā
hmā¦ā¦whenās the last time i listened to joe walshās lifeās been goodā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦probably then!
ā11) Do you have any strange phobias?ā
i donāt know if it counts as a phobia but i get really bothered when i see shirtless pics of people and their ribs are visible like idk what it is but eeeee i donāt like it
ā12) Ever stuck a foreign object up your nose?ā
not that i can remember, lmao
ā13) Whatās your religion?ā
iām not like a diehard religion fanatic but i was raised christian and still sorta stand by it yknow
ā14) If you are outside, what are you most likely doing?ā
looking at the area around me, even if iāve seen the place a thousand times, iām always just lookin around lmao
ā15) Do you prefer to be behind the camera or in front of it?ā
it depends! mostly i like being in front tho jdhbkjfhdjfls
ā16) Simple but extremely complex. Favorite band?ā
the monkees! those four idiots have my whole heart
ā17) What was the last lie you told?ā
my mom asked me if i did my homework yesterday and i lied and said i did it at school BUT I DID DO MOST OF IT THERE SO WHEN I BROUGHT IT HOME I DIDNāT HAVE A LOT TO DO
ā18) Do you believe in karma?ā
i guess so! what goes around comes around iād suppose
ā19) What does your URL mean?ā
itās named somewhat after my favorite anime character tomoko kuroki bc i love her and sheās a big mood
ā20) What is your greatest weakness; your greatest strength?ā
i think my greatest weakness would be that i jump to conclusions without any reason yknow but i think my biggest strength would be either my writing abilities or my ability to sorta see through people and see exactly what type of person they are
ā21) Who is your celebrity crush?ā
davy jones !!!!!! i love him so much !!!!!!!!!!
ā22) Have you ever gone skinny dipping?ā
hELL NO i would never iām way too modest for that sjsklaskjdkbfnj
ā23) How do you vent your anger?ā
usually i talk to someone about it whoād understand but sometimes when i donāt want to bug anyone i just scribble it all down
ā24) Do you have a collection of anything?āi have a record collection! and a cd and tape collection, i mostly just collect music stuff kshsjlbsjk
ā25) Do you prefer talking on the phone or video chatting online?ā
i donāt really like either but i prefer talking on the phone!
ā26) Are you happy with the person youāve become?ā
not entirely
ā27) Whatās a sound you hate; sound you love?ā
i hate the sound of babies screaming like i donāt hate children but uGH it kills my ears and a sound i love is the sound of tambourines! i love those lil things they do a good noise
ā28) Whatās your biggest āwhat ifā?ā
what if itās all for nothing (this could apply to several things)
ā29) Do you believe in ghosts? How about aliens?ā
i dunno about aliens but i think there are ghosts! iād love to be friends with a ghost like. imagine
ā30) Stick your right arm out; what do you touch first? Do the same with your left arm.ā
with my right i touch my phone first! and with my left i touch my 3dsĀ
ā31) Smell the air. What do you smell?ā
it smells likeā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦..air
ā32) Whatās the worst place you have ever been to?ā
i dunno iāve never really been anywhere super terribleĀ
ā33) Choose East Coast or West Coast?ā
uhhh east?
ā34) Most attractive singer of your opposite gender?ā
DAVY JONES OF COURSEEEEE
ā35) To you, what is the meaning of life?ā
to give it meaning
ā36) Define Art.ā
art is whatever you make it tbh, something that inspires
ā37) Do you believe in luck?ā
i guess! even tho i have the worst luck ever
ā38) Whatās the weather like right now?ā
cold and windy it SUCKS
ā39) What time is it?ā
at the time of writing this answer itās 8:37 pm!
ā40) Do you drive? If so, have you ever crashed?ā
iām too young to drive so iāve never done it bsjhklskjdvbfjdsk
ā41) What was the last book you read?ā
i admit i write more than i read but i believe the last time i read a book was yesterday when i was reading one of my how-to-read-sheet-music books from the library
ā42) Do you like the smell of gasoline?ā
i can tolerate it but i wouldnāt want to sit and smell it for hours
ā43) Do you have any nicknames?ā
not really! if you gave me one thatād be neat
ā44) What was the last movie you saw?ā
last time i watched a movie was when i rewatched the beatles movieĀ āāhelp!āā itās a rlly good movie i love it
ā45) Whatās the worst injury youāve ever had?ā
uh once i broke my arm in kindergarten but i think thatād be it
ā46) Have you ever caught a butterfly?ā
like in a net? no but iād really like tooooo i think itād be neat
ā47) Do you have any obsessions right now?ā
MONKEESSSSSS IāVE BEEN HYPERFIXING ON THE MONKEES FOR NEARLY A YEAR NOW I JUST LOVE THOSE FOUR DUMBASSES ESPECIALLY THE SHORT ONE THAT TALKS FUNNY
ā48) Whatās your sexual orientation?ā
iām a girl! born a girl and i have stayed a girl since. wild
ā49) Ever had a rumor spread about you?ā
not that i know of sjhskdksl is that a good thing??
ā50) Do you believe in magic?ā
perhaps itās out there and someoneās just keeping it to themselves WHICH WOULD SUCK BC GIVE ME SOME MAGIC YOU FUCK
ā51) Do you tend to hold grudges against people who have done you wrong?ā
i forgive but never forget
ā52) What is your astrological sign?ā
since i was born on november 8th iād be a scorpio!
ā53) Do you save money or spend it?ā
iām terrible at saving money but iām a wiz at spending it
ā54) Whatās the last thing you purchased?ā
my monkees shirt! i love that thing even tho it was 90 dollars on etsy but lemme tell ya itās 90 dollars well spent
ā55) Love or lust?ā
love !!!!!!!!!!
ā56) In a relationship?ā
in my daydream universe iām the lovely intelligent wife of davy jones but in reality iām a lonely bitch skjfhdsjflsj;fdkk
ā57) How many relationships have you had?ā
i had a boyfriend for a week in kindergarten but only because he recognized me from sunday school and iāve never had a relationship since
ā58) Can you touch your nose with your tongue?ā
no and i canāt believe people can do that but some people canāt like HUH
ā59) Where were you yesterday?ā
i wasnāt anywhere near the crime scene officer i swear
ā60) Is there anything pink within 10 feet of you?ā
on my desk next to my coaster is my pink rubber bracelet with a peter tork quote on it! and thatās not very far away so it counts!
ā61) Are you wearing socks right now?ā
the only time iām not wearing socks is when iām in the shower so yes
ā62) Whatās your favorite animal?ā
the red panda !!!! i love those funky little dudes !!!!!!!
ā63) What is your secret weapon to get someone to like you?ā
i really would not know my dude i mean just being myself i guess?? bold of you to assume people like me
ā64) Where is your best friend?ā
probably at their house being the greatest best friend ever
ā65) Spit or swallow?(;ā
i think when youāre brushing your teeth you literally have to spit you canāt just swallow that shit what the fuck if i find someone who does that iāll ascend
ā66) What is your heritage?ā
i donāt really know! i mean iām about as white as a piece of paper so
ā67) What were you doing last night at 12 AM?ā
i told you before officer i wasnāt out doing illegal actions ((nah but seriously i was watching youtube i think))
ā68) What do you think is Satanās last name?ā
bofa
ā69) Be honest. Ever gotten yourself off?ā
honestly i never remember where my bus stop is i always just look out the window and see my house and iām like oh shit time to skidaddle so i mostly rely on the bus driver for that. thanks bus driver
((yeah))
ā70) Are you the kind of friend you would want to have as a friend?ā
i think being friends with me would be alright maybe!
ā71) You are walking down the street on your way to work. There is a dog drowning in the canal on the side of the street. Your boss has told you if you are late one more time you get fired. What do you do?ā
man fuck that guy iām saving that fuckin dog then iāll just show up with the dog and everyone will think itās so cute that i wonāt get fired. problem solved!
ā72) You are at the doctorās office and she has just informed you that you have approximately one month to live. a) Do you tell anyone/everyone you are going to die? b) What do you do with your remaining days? c) Would you be afraid?ā
i guess everyone would already know but iād finish everything iād need to like writing projects and stuff, iād make sure iād do everything i need to before i had to dieĀ
ā73) You can only have one of these things; trust or love.ā
where thereās trust thereās love so trust!
ā74) Whatās a song that always makes you happy when you hear it?ā
looking for the good times by the monkees never fails to make me smile! i just love davy a lot
ā75) What are the last four digits in your cell phone number?ā
7644!Ā
ā76) In your opinion, what makes a great relationship?ā
a good relationship starts with a good friendship yknow. you have to be able to love and appreciate the person youāre with and accept them the way they are and not try to change them too much. and it also sorta all relies on trust. if you can trust who youāre with, youāre good to go. and if you feel like youāre unable to call them out when they do wrong or if they do/say something really bad and you just let it slide then thatās not good in a relationship iād say
ā77) How can I win your heart?ā
be nice
ā78) Can insanity bring on more creativity?ā
maybe just a small, small amount but not a lot
ā79) What is the single best decision you have made in your life so far?ā
deciding to listen to the monkees tbh bc !!! i love em !!!! have i mentioned this !!!!
ā80) What size shoes do you wear?ā
like size 11 or somethin like that
ā81) What would you want to be written on your tombstone?ā
ābury me shallow because iāll be backā
ā82) What is your favorite word?ā
my favorite word would probably beĀ ālovelyā bc itās so fuckin !! good !!!!!!!
ā83) Give me the first thing that comes to mind when you hear the word; heart.ā
i always hear the word in davyās voice and the way he says it LKDSLSKS he goesĀ āh a h tā itās cute
ā84) What is a saying you say a lot?ā
āit be like that sometimesā
ā85) Whatās the last song you listened to?ā
everybody wants to rule the world by tears for fears! listening to it as i answer this actually
ā86) Basic question; whatās your favorite color/colors?ā
blue! really any shade of blue but especially light blue!
ā87) What is your current desktop picture?ā
iāve said monkees too many times in this post but. them
ā88) If you could press a button and make anyone in the world instantaneously explode, who would it be?ā
the president bc he sucks
ā89) What would be a question youād be afraid to tell the truth on?ā
if someone outside of the internet asked if i were gay i think iād be a little scared to answer bc yknow my whole family is homophobic and all that and sometimes you never can tell who is and who isnāt
ā90) One night you wake up because you heard a noise. You turn on the light to find that you are surrounded by MUMMIES. The mummies arenāt really doing anything, theyāre just standing around your bed. What do you do?ā
introduce myself bc even if iām scared iām not about to be impolite
ā91) You accidentally eat some radioactive vegetables. They were good, and whatās even cooler is that they endow you with the super-power of your choice! What is that power?ā
time travel !!!! they call me TIME TRAVELING PRODUCE AISLEĀ
ā92) You can re-live any point of time in your life. The time-span can only be a half-hour, though. What half-hour of your past would you like to experience again?ā
maybe a half hour of my first concert! it was a blast
ā93) You can erase any horrible experience from your past. What will it be?ā
developing depression
ā94) You have the opportunity to sleep with the music-celebrity of your choice. Who would it be?ā
DAVY FUCKIN JONES but would we still see eachother afterwards is the question
ā95) You just got a free plane ticket to anywhere. You have to depart right now. Where are you gonna go?ā
manchester, england !!!!!!! i really want to go and i actually kinda wanna move there someday
ā96) Do you have any relatives in jail?ā
not that i know of i sure hope not lmao
ā97) Have you ever thrown up in the car?ā
once a long time ago
ā98) Ever been on a plane?ā
never bc my mom is super scared of heights and scared of planes and tbh i kinda donāt really like planes i prefer boats
ā99) If the whole world were listening to you right now, what would you say?ā
iād say listen to papa geneās blues by the monkees and listen to mike nesmith goĀ āyeeeeeehawwwww !!!!!!ā
this took me an hour thanks anon
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No More Dream - BTS
(Here me go kids!!Ā
What...
Whhhhhy????Ā
Poor guy :/
He looks 15? Why is he driving a bus? Donāt bus drivers need a special license? Heās also too attractive to be driving a bus ... Also hold onto the steering wheel with both hands please! At 10 and 2! thatās where your hands should be!!! Not holding on to a post for support!! Although if I had a bus driver like that I would probably be holding onto a post for support too..Ā
FFS
Welp thatās what usually happens when you canāt drive...
How are they not all beating him up for almost killing them??? This was their debut M/V! They almost died before they debuted!!Ā
There are so many things I want to say. Like I had to stand up and pace a little to organise my thoughts and decide what to say. this is just such a ... thought provoking image ... So firstly, WHAT. A. LOOK. lol poor guy. Also were all the other good names taken? Was there nOTHING ELSE???? let me guess... does he ... perhaps... rap?? poor guy
The fckin bus driver guy!! He looks so seedy here. If they changed it from J to G he would share the same name as my favourite alcohol - Gin... I wish I had a big bottle of Gin with me right now tbh
Like that one white kid at school that tries to actĀ āganstaā and tough but has no idea what theyāre actually doing and maybe almost offends people but is usually a softie on the inside just seeking acceptance.Ā
Who is doing this voiceover btw?? He sounds like heās trying reaaaaaal hard to be cool. js
Hottie alert! Do the kids still say that?? idc heās hot. Just got major Mulan flash backs to Li Shang. I was in love with Li Shang.
Another tries-to-be-though-but-is-actually-squish! heās a cutie though... pretty sure heās my friends bias???
Take. Me. Now. thanks
His into was so short it was like an afterthought, poor thing! He looks cute and emo thoughĀ
Okay so false startĀ
Here we go kiddies!
oh my god yesĀ
oh my god he;s so cute look at his baby face and his skin loOK AT HIS SKIN I JUST WANNA SQUISH HIS CHEEKS AND TELL HIM HOW GOOD HEāS DOING
this fuckin guy ... why is this not a meme??
Hey look itās Gin - who makes me want GinĀ
I just want to know why?Ā
This one... is a SNACC
āI wanna big house, big cars & big ringsā lol same bro same ... heās smol and cute but also pretty cool
Okay so the pinup girl head scarf thing has ruined itĀ
So ... he does rap ... big surprise ...Ā
LOOK AT HIS SKIN!!! So cute
Heās a cutie
cAn ThIs OnE bE mY bIaS??
Baby raps too??? Youāre doing so great honey!!!!
Iām so torn between hating him and feeling sorry for him because he was probably forced to do this...
SquishĀ
Honestly loving the dark/black theme and I love the outfit coordinationĀ
lol memes but remember when everyone used to say sweg? this reminded me of that dark time. Iām bringing it back
He reminds me of my Gin thirstĀ
Look at that eyeliner!! heās so squish though the voice at this point (2:23) definitely doesnāt match him...
Despite the questionable fashion choices I like this guyĀ
Honestly... seems fitting...Ā
Definitely my favourite! Heās so cool and I love his hair like this and the forehead and unfĀ
~ gin ~ alcohol ~ gin ~ alcohol ~ gin ~ alcohol~ gin ~ alcohol ~ gin ~ alcohol ~Ā
I knew his voice would be higher...
You can be fined if you donāt wear a helmet. Whereās your helmet boi??
I was likeĀ āOHMYGOD ABS!1!!ā and then he turned to the side and you could see all his ribs :(( also look at his seedy faceĀ
Look at that lil hoe go!!!Ā
Was there actually a point to the school bus? Like a deeper meaning in the lyrics? Or is it just there to set the scene and kinda look cool? Because donāt they just use those yellow school buses in America? Were they trying to appeal to an American audience all along?? Is this how they won those Billboard awards? Because theyāve secretly been appealing to an American Audience all along?????? #BTSconspiracy2k18Ā
f*ck me please
That was actually really coolĀ
THOSE VOCALS THOUGHĀ
Is it bad that I want to punch him?
Annnnnnnd itās over.Ā
(Lemme just rewatch it without the pausing )
Okay so Iām going to rate this 7.75 star fish out of 11.5.
I actually quite enjoyed this M/V. I liked their style and I liked the song. Iām actually quite a fan of Korean hip hop and Korean rap already so this seemed like a kind of Kpop Khip hop mix. In terms of debut M/Vās I feel like this is one of the good ones.Ā
Thank you for joining me on the start of my trip down the fckin rabbit hole journey of discovery!Ā
Feel free to request :)
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For the film asks, @jimtheviking gave me 3, 9 and 11. Thanks Jim!
3. An actor/actress youāve seen in more than 8 movies? Name the movies.
*cracks knuckles* letsdothis. James Purefoy, I can say without a doubt, is someone I have seen in more than 8 movies. And you know they're going to be _quality_ films. I don't even need to include TV movies in this list to make up the numbers :D
Let's start with the good, shall we?
1. A Knight's Tale: the fluffiest Black Prince who only speaks in innuendos (christ even before the line about 'withdrawing early' I'm collapsed in fits of hysterical laughter on the floor) with a big old smirk. He just wants jousting! And justice for jousting! Not v historically accurate tbh but he wears that weird split leather floor length coat and a white shirt so I will forgive him everything.
2. Solomon Kane: wait, you thought I meant *good* good movies? Heh. Evillest of pirates promises never to kill again to prevent his soul being dragged straight to hell, is forced to go on murderous rampage to save Pete Postlethwaite's daughter. Also there's plague? Witches? He... Pulls himself off a crucifix?? So much black leather. Bonus west country accent. Excellent stuff.
3. Ironclad: the most accurate bit of this movie about the siege of Rochester Castle is where King John blows up one of its towers using pigs. But James Purefoy has a Very Large Sword and seems to be playing some weird Templar fanfic version of William Marshall? He has a band of merry men, he cleaves some people in twain (no, literally, it's a Very Large Sword), Kate Mara is unsurprisingly into that. The guy from the 13th Warrior is a blue-painted pagan mercenary from Denmark who John somehow has some leverage over? Oh yes and King John is played by Paul Giamatti. Delightful. Did I mention that Brian Cox gets fired from a trebuchet at his own castle while shouting 'no surrender!'?
Now the bad...
4. Resident Evil: what's there to say? He's quite pretty in that grey t shirt but zombies are boring and he ends up deservedly getting his face eaten off. I feel there may be some sort of undead interlude but I wasn't paying attention by that point. At least Mila Jovovitch is great.
5. Vanity Fair: idk maybe I need to read it, but I felt this movie wanted us to like its characters too much for something that was meant to be a satire. He's tragically dumb and comes to a tragically dumb end, and I shouldn't have been sad about it because damn I wanted to root for Becky but... Somehow... No?
6. Maybe Baby: I WATCHED A BEN ELTON MOVIE ABOUT MAKING BABIES FOR YOU JAMES PUREFOY. I DID NOT ENJOY IT.
The ugly:
7. Mansfield Park: not really 'ugly' for the film per se, I have enjoyed both adaptations I've seen and it's not an Austen I've read so haven't formed any strong opinions. Anyway, he's Tom Bertram the son of the slave owner and I think he just lies about being feverish a bit so Fanny can discover his drawings of the atrocities on the plantation.
8. The Wedding Tackle: lolololol I remember next to nothing about this. It's very 90s. The Lads don't want to be Tied Down (unless it's in that way you know what I mean hurrrrr) and her from the later series of Ballykissangel is in it. Mark it down for a rewatch. I was lucky ("") to find it on VHS in my local library before.
9. George and the Dragon: I have seen this more than once. There's a dragon poop joke. I think it's one of those where the dragon isn't evil? The dragon upstage all the other cast, who cannot act because Patrick Swayze is demolishing the scenery and it's too distracting. Our noble hero plays the innocent ingenue. It does not suit him.
10. John Carter: fuck I almost forgot! I want to love this movie, I want to so much. But it drags. on. so. long. James's finest moment is getting a piggy back from John Carter as he leaps through the Martian landscape: his little face is so happy! It singlehandedly makes up for Ciaran Hinds' grimace of continual confusion because his hair and his epaulettes match so closely. And sadly I rarely get to that point of the movie because I have given up from boredom long before. Oh yes, and James wears a skirt and crop top armour, with very fetching swirly red tattoos. V pretty.
So tbf his better stuff is from TV: really good things are The Mayor of Casterbridge (though dodgy Scottish accent alert!), Beau Brummel: This Charming Man, and obviously Rome. Hap and Leonard is his only current project I'm keeping up with, and season 2 was fantastic.
9. The most aesthetically pleasing movie youāve ever watched?
Oh, tough! Recently I think it has to be Blade Runner 2049. The colours! The composition! But particularly the soundtrack and the use of everyday sound in combination with each other.
I think aesthetically I'm quite easily pleased with movies. I find it easier to pick out animation that really stands out: Song of the Sea and Princess Mononoke are my favourites there, and Persepolis of course.
11. Your favourite movie genre?
So I think this is a really hard question, I am both very picky and very not picky. I won't see something *because* it's a particular genre, but I may avoid something if it's marketed as a rom-com (look my 'not like other girls'-ness is very ingrained and this is a part of it I have not felt the need to re-evaluate, partly because I don't like the cynicism of the marketing or the tropes of the stories. I'm thinking of very specific things here, you know: white background, red or pink title writing, two or three white people looking adorkable). Can I cop out and say 'action'? That covers everything from superheroes to Con Air to shite medieval stories right? Or 'drama' because that covers everything else? Anyway down with arbitrary genre distinctions, boo, Jim, booo!
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Someoneās stomach still hates her, so itās BREAD NIGHT instead of sushi night but HERE WE GO
lol cheryl. for just one tiny moment, i bet a couple kids were ready for a columbus style defamation and dressing down, but not our cheryl. nope. sheās just taking another opportunity to be the live action pacifica northwest.
āthe southside kids are fine, but their parents are FURIOUS.ā iām gunna need more than that mayor mac- why? are the southside kids studying too hard now that they have real books? does sweetpeaās mum have to drive him all the way across town to his new school every morning? if the city shut down the school and absorbed these kids into the other district, the district buses would have to come to them, yes? so why would Mama Sweets driving him??? I NEED MORE DETAILS MAYOR MAC.
a neighborhood party for both north and southside. but the serpents are hired as security. do you see the problem here folks???? i mean- obviously not every single southsider is in the gang, but they are a good chunk of the people youāre trying to integrate into the community. so..... whatās really happening.... is a party of northsiders........ with southsiders as The Help. ......great plan i canāt wait.
thereās something really hilarious about the marked height difference between archie and hiram and archie is enjoying every inch of it- deep, deep down inside while he tries to figure out what the fuck is happening in his dining room.
me @ Hal: youāve got the personality of a brillo pad go out in the garage or something
chic is chillingly cavalier, which is just how i want him, but betty brining upĀ theĀ ācresent moonsā on her palms was ham handed and awkward come on we were doing so much better with dialogue recently
this guy canāt possibly be legit thereās no way a trained agent of anything would trust archie with a can of pringles
there is just so much in the gang checking out bettyās picture of chic. kevin thinks he looks hot and maybe familiar because kevin likes pretty, hooded eyed bad boys who probably have a switchblade in their back pocket ((me too bro itās okay)). veronica calling himĀ āthe omen.ā betty sort of expecting but not knowing how to react to her friends thinking her long lost brother is a babe. also summarizing her current home life perfectly in how alice is being awkwardly infantizing and how hal is being definitely not chicās biological dad and pissy about it. excellent. all excellent.
bettyāsĀ āhanging out with toni? cool. thatās coolā face is just... so betty.
āoldest living serpentā SHUT UP i bet heās adorable i canāt wait
āyour dad doesnāt like meāĀ āwhat? no!ā veronica is suddenly a worse liar than betty and that is SAYING something
veronica references the movieĀ āfoxcatcherā which i both want to see and donāt want to see and have been waffling about for over a year. anyone care to swing me on it?
varchie is lying to one another and it is all going to blow up so terribly
hoooooolllllyyyyyyy shhhiiiiitttttt. i see. this is a topical episode. and tangentially personal. i went to school near the dakota borders. i have friends who spent weeks at the pipeline protests. but also um.... why do i get the sense that for some bizarre reason, this is going to be jugheadās narrative....... *SIGH*
i need about twelve drinks right now. but also did i nail it with that columbus reference or what?
((fun fact to lighten the mood: my city is working on getting a statue of christopher columbus replaced with one of prince because he was from here and heĀ ārepresents us betterā. bless this midwest))
*HEFTY SIGH* mayor mac. i genuinely want to see more of your adulterous but charming affair with papa keller but you keep fighting tooth and nail to stay on my shitlist
kevinās porn watching has solved a mystery that shouldnāt really have been a mystery to anyone? i thought fantasy fulfillment was pretty fuckin clear. also, kev, WHY ARE YOU WATCHING PORN IN POPāS WHAT THE FUCK BRO WHO DOES THAT
Archie: *jake peralta voice* why does everyone keep touchin my butt?
IS THE SHERIFF THERE TO WATCH KEVINāS TRYOUT HELP MY HEART DONāT YOU *DARE* BE SHADY PAPA KELLER DONāT YOU BETRAY MY BOY
KEVINāS GOOD. KEVINāS A GOOD WRESTLER. MY LITTLE HEART.
none of these boys better make ANY comments about kevin wrestling or i will come after them with A BAT
this is a much needed self esteem boost for kevin- being better at something traditionally masculine than archie, the all american boy and I SUPPORT HIS PRIDE I JUST WANT YOU TO BE HAPPY KEV EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT CAM BOYS AT A PUBLIC DINER YA WEIRDO
this is an A+ sweater from betty holy jeez contender #1 for outfit mvp
bets did you watch a bunch of your brotherās sexy vids? holy jeez i need to feel better so i can have a drink ARE YOU ENJOYING THIS ESSAY I KNOW YOU ARE
kevinās writing a gossip column now? i both love and hate this. give me a sample of it and i will swing one way or the other
āthis is a story we need to tellā close jughead. this is a story you need to help the right people tell. as support. not the main voice. please tell me that is on its way. (i doubt it)
also i feel like the writers came up with this history of the gang, shall we say, quite a ways after casting of the gang.... not that the gang has to be all direct descendants of the tribe but.... still.Ā
kevinās going to help archie practice cuz heās the best of all of us. also itās going to make him feel good about himself and i donāt begrudge him that in the slightest.
āyou donāt really think this could be long term, do you?ā chic you were living in a hostel where people get stabbed/their stuff stolen- how is that long term?
itās a repeat but i think this is the first time this season weāve heard a characterās original song? i miss the pussycats. i missĀ āwe tell our own storyā divas of color. i honestly kinda missĀ āi wanna be a musicianā archie tbh. the music in general has taken a definite turn this season and i like all the retro but god the s1 soundtrack was SO damn good and atmospheric
Hiram has mastered the painfully overt backhanded compliment in a way i would have scoffed at two years ago but honestly i know people liek this now and itās a nightmare.
lol veronica and archie turn this into the cold war of in-law relations.Ā āiām glad youāre not man enough to wrestle archie makes me feel like my daughterās virtue is safe with youāĀ āoh yeah well i think archie is hotāĀ āyeah and we are TOTES comfortable kissing in front of you because our relationship is TOO HOT TO CONTAIN SO THEREā
*long, loud groan* oh my gggaaaaawwwwddd hal
that being said i kinda feel the same way about the narrative doing this weird displacement where Chic replaces Polly as the Problem Cooper and Sweetpea and Fangs are splitting up the threads of Joaquinās storyline like come on writers either get your actors back or write something new- donāt just rework existing threads of character and plot for new faces.
kevin stop looking so eager we know hiram is a babe okay but thatās your friendās dad
kevin and chuck both know enough about wrestling to know hiram is being a dick and not demonstrating for the sake of demonstrating. i mean- i donāt know shit about wrestling and i could tell that- but i have the benefit of knowing the narrative
āGet the message?ā no hiram i think youāre being a tad too subtle. try farting on him.
TONI. THATāS MY GIRL. FINALLY. THANK GOD. i was so scared this storyline was going to let jughead be this painfully white without acknowledgement but here we go. thank god. jughead has been whiter than i am recently and that is SAYING something.
okay so josieās mad at veronica now which means we donāt get a pussycat reunion? DID THEY LOSE MELODY AND VAL TO OTHER GIGS??? JESUS RIVERDALE HOLD ON TO YOUR CAST ((iām just assuming. i donāt know if polly and joaquin and melody and val and smithers all have other acting jobs keeping them from doing riverdale- itās just it doesnāt make sense narrative-wise so i assume itās a scheduling thing))
ācameras arenāt here, jackie oā thatās my girl
āthe old ways die hard it seemsā SOCIAL COMMENTARY
i love this wrestling plotline for many kevin reasons, but one of them is it gives and opportunity to show kevin interacting with a male friend. theyāre obviously making a better effort to make him more than theĀ āsassy gay friendā but this is one i feel a lot of people would miss. weāre used to gay men befriending women and being romantically involved with or lusting after men exclusively. but kevin and archie are friends! and we love them both! kevin jokes around about archie being hot and neither of them are uncomfortable! archie goes to kevin for help with something kevin has more knowledge/skill at! if i remember right archie was the first one to call joaquin kevinās boyfriend! they are bros! and this is just really nice!
also how did i not notice kevin is ridiculously buff before? did he beefcake up between seasons or did those sweaters just slim him down a lot somehow? woops better go back and rewatch season one again to check. god what a chore.
chic is AGGRESSIVELY questioning bettyās intentions because we arenāt aware enough that he has TRUST ISSUES
i still donāt know how i feel about any of this and i keep swinging back and forth onĀ ādark bettyā from episode to episode depending on what theyāre doing with it
āi took care of her while you were in prisonāĀ āexcuse meā OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT HERE LIES ARCHIE ANDREWS DUMB BOY GOOD BOY SWEET BOY
i really need to know what veronica knows about her parents and how she is biding her time and handling it because the writers are just not throwing her a goddamn bone lately other than to occasionally call out toxic masculinity
honestly i feel like i donāt understand hiram. maybe because iām not a blindly competitive douchenozzle. but like- surely laying things out so bullheaded and aggressive canāt be a better strategy than lying in wait and learning what you can? he could pretty easily wreck their relationship- those two keep screwing things up between them anyway. it canāt be that hard to be subtle buddy ((hiram is a gryffindor. nell is a slytherpuff. nell does not understand lion people.))
we see more hints of veronica faking the koolaid drinking with her parents. but is that truly what hermione wants? who is real? season one or two hermione?! i must know!!!!
*jughead continues to make this about him* toni: āi thought you were apologizing.ā thank god for tony. give her her own narrative and stop making her only scenes be about jughead one way or another. sheās got such potential
for all that i still think the narrative is still going to find a way to keep jugheadās feelings at the forefront of this plot thread, there was some good delivery onĀ āi had no right.ā a kid realizing for the first time that just because he feels really strongly about something, does not mean heās universally in the right on the subject. i know so many grown ass adults who donāt know this. iām just really hoping not just jughead as a character takes a step back for a bit, but the narrative lets him and uses the room he makes well.
of course hiram invites veronica thinking archie isnāt going to make the team
slap his butt ronnie
so which chuck are we getting today god only knows because his redemption never saw any continuation or closure beyond gettin flirty with josie so i have no idea if it was genuine
Me, who knows nothing about sports of any kind beyond that i like it when Klose does the flippy: Wrestling is an aesthetically stupid sport
weāre all acknowledging how very uncomfortable and surreal this is for veronica right? watching her boyfriend grapple with the guy who publicly humiliated and harassed her a few months back? but in like- aĀ āsportsman behaviorā setting? very weird.
was that archie realizing he was being tested? is dating a lodge like converting to judaism? gotta be denied three times and persist?
alice is being so painfully stepfordy and iām frightened and intrigued by the moment when the other shoe will drop and chic sees the alice cooper we all know and love to hate and hate to love
again- iām really shocked that like- no one read between the lines on what chicās livelihood came from
āhe has to go and you know damn well whyā *clutches pearls* oh good heavens hal what reason could that possibly be??? i havenāt the foggiest
PENELOPE IS LIKE AN AMALGAMATION OF EVERY DISNEY VILLAIN EVER IN THIS SHOT IāM DYING
OH SHIT. OH SHIT. VERONICA AND THE PUSSYCATS.
like on the one hand, that was a fucking power move and i kind of just have to give props for the sheer audacity, but on the other hand PEOPLE NEED TO STOP CUTTING JOSIE OFF FROM ANY AND ALL SUPPORT SHEāS JUST BEING MANIPULATED AND ATTACKED ON ALL SIDES AND I NEED HER TO BE OKAY BECAUSE SHE HAS FAR TOO MANY FEELINGS IN HER BIG BROWN EYES
oh god oh god this is too fucking real i need a drink but iām still sick fuck this is real. fuck. toniās face. cuz honestly sheās tough but you can tell sheās not used to the spotlight and it took all her courage to get up and be the voice of the protest only to be derailed and minimalized fuck let this girl have more to do than occasionally be the voice of reason to jughead and the serpents.Ā
BAHAHAHA is hal going to sleep with penelope to get back at alice for having a kid with fp back in highschool jesus christ this show
iām reserving judgement on the chic plotline until it progresses more but right now iām just kindaĀ ā....huh.ā about it
oh betty. oh honey. oh babe.
āThat was the old meā archie has been through fiveĀ ānew meās in the past month. i mean this is obviously to get on hiramās good side, but still itās hilarious.
oh of course. they couldnāt just let this fucking go could they. gotta frame the serpents for something else. or not! maybe it was the serpents! doesnāt actually matter. either way mayor mac, lodges and papa keller are going to be the absolute worst about it.
can we get back to being a gothic mystery show next ep? please?
Episode Scorecard:
Number of Sick Beatdrop editing sequences: none. it seems theyāve abandoned this, sadly, along with the rest of the season one soundtrack and editing style. which is a shame.
Do I Still Miss Joaquin: please just imagine wrestling matches with Joaquin dragging all the other teen serpents along with to be the loudest, rowdiest, Team Keller-est cheering section riverdale has ever seen. Kevin is equal parts pleased and mortified. cheryl and toni are dating by now, so cheryl makes them all tshirts. they all have no fucking clue how wrestling works. they love it.
Episode Hair MVP: jugheadās bangs were corkscrewing again- like mine do when my hair air dries just right. i live the curly/wavy combo life too juggie. i know itās hard.
Episode Outfit MVP: bettyās felted floral sweater- tho iām still perplexed by the collars on this show. someone in wardrobe has a signature and i donāt begrudge them- iāve just never seen collars on any outfit anywhere like these ones
#riverdale spoilers#long post#nell liveblogs#unsubtle highschool suburban gothic of my dreams#riverdale season 2#there was no fp this episode which is a crime
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