#I mean it’s from a bbc breakfast interview lol
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historyartthings · 28 days ago
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Now this is a terrible screen recorded clip - you can see me checking the time stamp a couple times. you’re welcome - but the youtube video I got it from now seems to have a whole chunk at the end (including this scene) removed?? so it’ll have to do unfortunately. the only thing cut off here is when Cromwell remembers himself and starts joining in the clapping.
there’s a little of the context for the press release image of Jane in her red and gold dress. But look at that - thomas disnae seem happy!
(Spoilers I guess? If you’re not wanting to see anything other than the stuff released in the trailer. But it’s only like 5 seconds long)
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alarrytale · 1 year ago
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Hi Marte, I'm a new fan from 2020 onwards, and I just discovered your blog, which is a fantastic resource. So first, I want to say thank-you for keeping it up all these years. I was reading it late into the night and was surprised to see you talking about H in 2013 having a promotional contract with the BBC, and it seemed like you were saying that his friendship with Nick Grimshaw was also promo. Did I understand that correctly? Was that a theory back in the day? As I haven't heard about this idea before. I thought their friendship was fully genuine, and I have read lots of speculation about whether or not they might have had some disagreement. If I have got two ideas mixed up, my only excuse is that your blog was so good, I was reading it until 3am.
Hi, anon!
Thank you, and you're welcome!
About Nick and Harry. No, it wasn't a theory back then. They were genuine friends and a very large group of people thought they were actually together (Gryles). It seemed organic back then and Nick was unproblematic and openly gay so most of the fandom loved their friendship, up to a certain point.
It's not until much later when you look back at that time and reflect, that you see it for what it was. Mutual promo. The very public friendship started when Nick was confirmed to take over the Radio 1 Breakfast show, the most coveted dj spot, the most listened to in the UK, and with the youngest audience. BBC thought that Nick was cool and popular and would bring in tonnes of young listeners. He did because half his listeners were 1d stans listening to hear him tell stories about Harry. I listened in every single day, and so did half this fandom. He had Harry on his show multiple times too, ribbed him and hinted that Harry was gay. Nick also had 1d on, one member at a time, and they played their favourite songs and did an interview. The close connection with BBC and 1d bought Nick a lot of listeners and gave 1d loads of promo. Harry was also now a part of the London cool young celeb crew. It was an image boost for Harry. It was a really fun time.
I think Harry looked up to Nick as a gay mentor. He was openly gay and was very free spoken. Nick is just himself, is very funny, super relatable and with a big personality. He also had a big celebrity friend group and namedropped all the time. I think Nick and Harry genuinely enjoyed their friendship, even if the circumstances making it so was forced and contractual. I think there was jealousy on Louis part and the blind items suggested Nick and Harry were sleeping together, paired with half the fandom turning from being larries to gryles stans probably didn’t help. Nick could be very flirty with Harry sometimes too. Right in front of Louis. Nick and Louis' personalities clashed too, they're too much alike (go read some Tomlinshaw fan fiction and you'll see what i mean lol). There was always an underlying tension there between them.
I think there was some jealousy from Nick's partners as well, at least that's what the rumours say. Harry went on tour, got new friends and i think Nick felt a bit abandoned. He started throwing some shade at Harry. He lost a lot of listeners after the 1d stans turned on him, ditched him and Nick was sort of fired. His popularity faded fast. Nick and Harry have hung out a couple of times after 'the fall out' so i think they're more casual friends now. I don't think Nick's been to any of Harry’s solo shows though.
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