#I main rodger btw

[vampiric-moonstone]

GET THIS PEST OUT OF THE DAILY TWISTED BOARD!!!!!

Today’s twisted is…

Flutter!

Good luck and happy hunting!

[uncannyoceanz]

Some basic things about my Creepypasta au!

Ask me or the creepypastas anything! PLEASSEEE I NEED SOMETHING TO DO WITH MY LIFE 😭💀

Ships:

Jeff the killer x Eyeless Jack

Candy Pop x Jason the Toymaker

Jane the Killer x Mary Vaughn

Bloody Painter x Puppeteer

Nathan the Nobody x Ciara

Suicide Sadie x Roadwalker

Clockwork x Nina the killer

Nurse Ann x Dr. smiley

Pinkamena x Rainbow factory

lulu x the skroll

Homicidal liu x Hannah the killer?

Ben drowned x Lost silver

Luring Lyra x Kate the chaser

Candy Cane x April fools?

Masky x hoodie?

Weeping Forest x Ally SlenderDoll

I don’t know a lot about marble hornets btw so…. :’)

Pasta groups:

circus pastas: Papa Grande, Jason the Toymaker, Candy Pop, Candy Cane, Laughing Jack, Laughing Jill, Puppeteer, Nathan the nobody.

The killerz: Jeff the killer, Homicidal Liu, Asylum Nancy, Nina the killer, Clockwork

The girls: Jane the killer, Nina the killer, Clockwork, Sally, Suicide Sadie

These people idk what to call them: puppeteer, Bloody painter, Zero, Nurse Ann, Judge Angel

Slender family: slenderman, Splendorman, Trenderman, Offenderman, Surrender, Slendrina.

The monochrome crew: Zero, Laughing Jack, Puppeteer, Kagekao, Hobo heart.

The doctors: Nurse Ann, Doctor smiley, Doctor pain, EJ.

The dumbass trio: Jeff the killer, Ticci-Toby, Ben drowned.

Slendrina is Slenderman’s daughter. Lazari lives with Sadiya and Puppeteer.

Puppeteer doesn’t really work for slenderman nor Zalgo. He’s just there honestly lol

Homicidal liu lives by himself in a cabin in the woods.

Jane and Mary live together

Slender’s main proxies:

Masky, Hoodie, Ticci-Toby, Weeping Forest, Kate the chaser, Ally SlenderDoll, Rogue.

Zalgo’s main proxies:

Sonic.exe, Dr. locklear, Mr. Wide mouth, Stripes, Dark link, The Skroll, glitchy red, Jane Arkensaw

Boys:

Jeff the killer (Jeffery Woods)

Ben drowned (Benjamin Lawman)

ticci-Toby (Tobias Rodgers)

masky (Tim Wright)

hoodie (Brian Thomas)

eyeless jack (Jack Nyras)

laughing jack

Lost silver (Gold)

Papa grande

herobrine

Dr.smiley

Homicidal Liu (Liu Woods)

hobo heart

Jason the toymaker (Jason Meyers)

Vine the dollmaker

julius the dressmaker

Candy Pop / Night terrors

X-virus (Cody)

Smile dog

Nathan the nobody (Nathan Lux)

Puppeteer (Jonathan Blake)

Bloody Painter (Helen Otis)

Kagekao

Wilson the Basher

Girls:

Jane the killer (Jane Richardson)

Sally Williams (Sally Maryam Williams)

Nina the killer (Nina Hopkins)

Judge Angels (Dina Angela Clark)

Lulu (Lucile Tiffany gracefield)

Nurse Ann (Ann Lusen Mia)

Clockwork (Natalie Ouellette)

Laughing Jill

Candy Cane

Zero (Alice Marie Jackson)

Suicide Sadie (Sadie Marie Bennett

Roadwalker (Zayner Nanook)

Jane Arkensaw

Nula

Mary Vaughn

Ally the Slenderdoll (Adeline Abendroth)

Weeping forest (Jennifer Ryhnes)

Rouge (Heather Marshall)

Lilly the Jester

Ms. P (Ms. Pencilneck)

Stripes (Eloise Sarah Bellarose)

Sadiya

Lazari (Lazari Natalie Swann)

Lifeless Lucy (Lucy Jones)

Lily Kennett

Ellison Burns (Ellison Wright)

Rose (Rose Fairen)

Elizabeth Vazquez

Anna (Anna Schurks)

Kate the chaser (Kate Milens/Hayes)

April Fools

Emra

I feel fantastic / Tara

Hachishakusama

Kuchisake-Onna

Sadako (Samara Morgan)

Kayako

Hanako-San

Yuki-Onna

Beings of the forest… (That hold a lot of power)

Zalgo

Slenderman

Splendorman

Offenderman

Trenderman

Slenderwoman

Hachishakusama

Candy Pop (Mostly Night Terrors)

Zalgo’s Family:

Sadiya

Lazari

Stripes

Kaidy

Senora

Cynthia Ezelle (My oc)

Realms (Within the slender forest and such)

The Slender Forest Itself

The slendermansion

Homicidal Liu’s Cabin (In the slenderforest)

Granny’s house

Slendrina’s Mansion

Zalgo’s territory and base.

Roadwalker’s clearing

Sadiya’s house (Puppeteer, Sadiya, and Lazari)

The old abandoned Hospital

Jason the toymaker’s realm

The Abyss (Candy Pop’s realm)

The Mindscape

The lake

Cynthia Ezelle’s house

The old abandoned treehouse (Slender proxy Base)

The Circus Realm

Please dear god ask me something😭 I’m too lonely and bored man 💀💀💀

[where-does-the-heart-lie]

Ok so, I really need to know if you have any personal headcanons on ASL brothers because I need more serotonin for the day, btw I adore your art! Lots of love 💖

Thank you so much for this request! I don't actually have many head cannons for them in their universe tbh. I do have a couple for a modern au though!

this post turned out kinda long ":)

First of all: this is them 👇

Anyway,

Original universe headcanons:

-Ace is proud of his freckles. He doesn't much know what his mother looks like, but he's seen his father's appearance and knows that Rodger doesn't have freckles. So he sees his mother through his freckles :)

-despite his name, Ace is the only allosexual within the trio. I do think ace is aromantic though. I just don't think romantic relationships suit any of them, personally

-sabo cuts his own hair. I read a SBS submission asking oda why sabo grew his hair out. Oda responded saying he does to hide his scar. He said that sabo doesn't exactly see it as a badge of honor. Which makes me uhhhhhhhh very sad yuh huh. But it also makes me imagine he cuts his own hair because no one else can get it right. How I draw him, his bangs are uneven so that his scarred eye is covered and his working eye doesn't get blocked out. It looks fine now, but the first couple times he cut his hair were ✨disasters✨

Modern au:

They share an apartment and it is very apparent who's room is luffy's by level of messiness. Don't get me wrong, Ace's room is messy, but it's messy in an organized way. Unlike Luffy, who is just... Who knows if there's a floor over there. No one's ever seen it.

Sabo's room is so clean it's boarder-line sterile. It also just doesn't look lived in at all. If he invited you over and you saw his room, you'd think he was a serial killer.

Sabo and Ace both have their own mini fridges in their rooms that are under lock and key so that Luffy cant get into them. little fuckin gremlin man...

There is a tally board on their fridge that keeps track of who wins in wrestling matches that break out sometimes, much like in the show.

Sanji owns a restaurant near their apt that they always go to. The three of them have a chokehold on the "Big-Ass Bowl of Spicy-Ass Ramen eaten the fastest" title as they are currently in a three way tie that not they nor anyone else can beat.

Ace flirts with Sanji and his brothers give him flack for it, saying he's just trying to get a free meal!! support your local businesses, Ace! pay for you meal!!

Luffy always be challenging his brothers to spontaneous races and is always surprised when he inevitably loses. Sorry lil guy, they just got longer legs than you, not your fault.

They love trying new weird food. Whenever they see some kind of afront of nature that a snack-food company put out, like buffalo sauce flavored pretzels or plant based jerky, they'll absolutely buy and try it. It never goes well. Ever.

Ace and Sabo are the main Money Makers for their household. Luffy is always trying to get a job, though. Under the off chance he's actually hired though, his employment is usually terminated sometime within his first day. He's trying his best, man.

Whenever theyre having an issue in their household that they dont know how to combat, they call Dadan for advice. Kinda like those scavenger monkey themed guys from the beginning of Skypeia.

Thats all i have for now, sorry for any typo's. I could add on to this list later if I have any new ideas. i'll probably draw some of that modern au, too.

thanks again for the ask! i hope this got to you within your serotonin needing day!

[staticchoir1]

i know this is very early but uhh i found a medkit when i was on floor 1, is this rare?

im trying to main rodger btw. my main is either toodles or boxten

[mossghostsstuff]

So I used the chart is pretty cool

Btw sorry in advance because I know is kinda confusing looking

I don't think I ever showed them so ahmm

This is [in order of apparition]: Northen,graves and bucky^^

Some random facts about them because I like talking about my ocs

If graves could everyone would hate on him

Bucky thinks shrimpo is his beastie specially because both have anger issues and are shrimps.

Northern fears most of the main character with exception of astro

Northern admire a lot glisten confidence and rodger intelligence

Bucky admires sprout strength

Bucky and dandy hates each other because bucky yeeted dandy one time when he got angry

Graves have beef with rodger because he doesn't believe on the paranormal

yeah. feel free to use it no need to ask me first or credit. my user is already in th corner

also I used the chart with Dolly…. If y’all even care……

notes

-Dolly is in the book club! That’s why she’s friends with every member (Dazzle, Brightney, and Astro)

-Toodles will often try to befriend Dolly so she can get into her plushie collection! Unfortunately for her Dolly doesn’t like kids… lol (She finds Toodles quite annoying at times)

-Flutter and Dolly like to hang out every once in a while. Usually doing something calming like reading books or frolicking in flower fields🌸🌸🌸🌺🌺🌺💞💞💞✨✨✨✨

-Okay before yall freak out it’s just a SMALL crush like ohhh pretty tea lady… haha ofc I’ll come to all ur tea parties…. Kinda thing don’t take it too seriously

-Goob also admires Dolly’s plushie collection, not as much as Toodles but he thinks it’s cool (he’s just a bit intimidated by her so he won’t ask her about it)

[fearforthestorm]

alrighty get ready yall here's the cinderella au

so we've got our main/pov character as Virgil. he's in college-- all of them are-- and he's dormmates with Remus. now, Remus and his brother Roman are both in a theater group (which I've use up my one braincell by naming Sandcastle Theatre Co. and I may or may not be procrastinating the actual writing by designing a logo for), and their current show is a production of Cinderella (no, not the Disney one, the recent sort-of "reboot" of Rodgers & Hammerstein's Cinderella. it's a Broadway musical and my personal favorite Cinderella, here's the soundtrack if you're interested). They're not far out from opening night, and Remus invited Virgil to come watch one of the dress rehearsals. Virgil, being himself a former theater kid and loving pretty much everything music and acting, eagerly accepts.

so they go to the rehearsal, and not ten minutes in Virgil is absolutely in love with the production. it's incredible-- the music, the actors, the story. but you know what's most incredible? the guy who's playing the prince. he's got just such an energy about him, and a beautiful voice, and a beautiful face, and oh shit Virgil's in love. meanwhile, up on the stage, Roman has noticed the guy who's sitting in the audience, and he's curious who he is. so when they break for intermission, Roman wanders on down to say hi to this guy! there's a bit of gay panic at this point, for both of them, but they have a nice little conversation.

however, they also forget to tell each other their names, so after rehearsal is over and they leave, they have no idea who each other were and can't find each other again. side note, in this period where they don't know each other's names, Virgil is referring to Roman as "princey", because that's the kind of cute overdone nickname that I die for every time. anyway, obviously Remus is aware of everything, but he thinks it's really entertaining and just lets the story play out. he probably is having lots of fun swapping gossip about our favorite lovesick disaster gays with Remy, who is btw the director of the musical.

so the two of them have fallen hopelessly in love after one conversation, you know, as you do. they're both pining and being disaster gays, you know, as you do. and then Remus and/or Remy decide enough is enough and give Virgil tickets to opening night. (still working out the details here.) so he goes to opening night. the musical is proceeding just as it should, and it's all a whirlwind of, well, if you've ever been in a play you know how crazy it gets. so now we're partway through the second act, and as Roman is singing Loneliness of Evening (yes very specifically this song ok it's lovely and heartbreaking and if you've got like two minutes to spare please go listen to it), he finally looks out into the crowd-- and he sees Virgil. the play must go on, of course it must, and it will, but now Roman knows that Virgil's here and he's anxious to talk to him again.

the play ends, and they get through the bows, and maybe they call his name or maybe he reads it off the program, but Virgil finally finds out that the guy he's been crushing on is none other than his roommate's brother. naturally he's a little miffed at Remus but he's got more important matters, like going and talking to princey-- to Roman. he waits around in the theater until the actors start coming out from backstage, and Roman is the first to show up. there's a moment, like you have in all those romcoms, where the couple lock eyes and time seems to slow down and then they say hello. hello, they say. it's you, they say. I've found you at last, they say. they say so much and so much more, with only a hello.

they say hello. Virgil stumbles over an introduction-- he knows Roman's name, it's only fair. once more, they just sit and talk. about the musical, about the roommate-slash-brother who totally had a hand in their meeting, about anything and everything. they talk and they fall even more in love, but eventually they have to leave. for Virgil, that comes in the form of a phone call from his brother, Dee. some emergency has happened and he has to leave immediately. in his haste, he forgets his jacket. neither of them realise until too late that he's forgotten it, but Roman picks it up and resolves to return it, and maybe even ask him on a date when he does.

barely a day passes, and Roman turns up on the doorstep of Remus and Virgil's dorm. as luck would have it, Remus isn't there, but Virgil is. so Roman returns the jacket and-- deciding that third time's the charm-- asks Virgil if maybe, he'd like to get coffee sometime?

I'm thinking that likely I'll end it about there, but it could go longer. who knows? certainly not me. I'm still working out some of the details, like how the other sides fit into the plot, but we'll get there eventually. let me know what you guys think, and if you have any ideas, I'm absolutely down to hear them!!

[keeloves]

Top 10 Characters that deserved better.

10 Alexis Glenn from Famous in Love

Despite my problems with this character I wasn’t very pleased with her treatment on the show Famous in Love. Yes I know she was a snob and behaved like a jealous bitch but I felt she had some redeeming qualities about her. For one thing I would have her accept the fact she was bisexual and not have those run of the mill lame excuses as in “I don’t like labels” bisexual isn’t a bad word. I also would have her apologize to Paige for how she treated her and maybe they can get along but they don’t have to be besties. Another thing I didn’t like was her being used by Jake and then being dropped like a hat just because things didn’t work out in his favor. No one deserves that. I also felt she deserved better than to be used by Ida. I would love to give Lexi a redemption arc.

9. Milah from Once Upon a Time.

Even though I didn’t really care for Milah, I felt she deserved better than to be killed by Rumple twice. The first time having her heart ripped out and crushed literally and then being thrown into the lake of lost souls. I felt she had remorse for leaving Baelfire/Neal behind. I honestly felt she could have given Belle advice on how to leave Rumple and they could have become friends or something. Anyways she deserved to move on from the under world not be thrown in a lake of lost souls.

  8.Belle French Once Upon a Time

I am convinced that Adam and Eddie hated Belle. First off why did they keep her in a relationship with a man who lies to her, manipulates her and has told her multiple times he won’t change. Yet here she is going back to this man again and again. She kept going back to Rumple and even enabled him. She was once so scared of him that she felt that her child would be better off away from the father. Not only does she get lied to and manipulated she gets mind raped, raped if Belle and Rumple had sex in the fantasy world where Rumple was the Bright One. He even went so far as to stalk her and put a tracking bracelet on her to know where she was at all times. Belle always looked scared of Rumple and was always backing away from him. That relationship should have ended when Belle banned Rumple from Storybrooke. Nope she gets forced back in a toxic relationship and even Emilie De Raven said that she wouldn’t give Rumple as many chances. I know I have said this before but I am going to say it again. Belle should have been bisexual and go be happy with Ruby or OUAT should have introduced Prince Adam. Any one of those relationships would have been better than Rumbelle.

7 Logan Huntzberger

I thought Logan was one of the most well developed characters on Gilmore Girls as in the original series. When we first meet him he was promiscuous and slept around. However, he was fully willing to commit to Rory and become the boyfriend she needed and wanted. He was allowed to grow and develop. All was going great with his character until the revival. He and Rory are both cheating with each other on their significant others and Amy seem to make Logan resort to his fuck boy ways. I am sorry to Matt Czuchry who had to play a digressed character and props to you for making Logan likable despite the way he was written.

6. Angela Moore Boy/Girl Meets World (Using the Collage because I loved the Versatility Angela had on Boy Meets World I did not make this Collage BTW) 

I know I keep bringing her up but I can’t help it. I am so bitter that Girl Meets World committed defamation of a black female character. They bent and twisted the narrative to make Angela look like a villain and they also made her look like one more person that mindlessly abandon Shawn when that is not the case. She left to Europe with her father and she was going to come back and be with Shawn. Now in Girl Meets World she was just another person who abandon Shawn? No that is so disrespectful and this completely racist how she got treated. Also I don’t want anyone to come at me and tell me the treatment she got wasn’t racially related. Seriously look how  the other characters got treated as in the white characters got treated then look at how Michael Jacobs treated his only black female character from Boy Meets World. She was the only main black character period and all she got was paid dust. So yeah her treatment whether or not it was unintended was absolutely racist.

5. Hazel Alden Degrassi

Degrassi literally had no idea what to do with this character. She was on the show for six seasons and only got one single story line about her Muslim back ground and we didn’t get that story line until season 2. She was there as a “main character” so Degrassi could pat themselves on the back for diversity brownie points. Andrea Lewis (Actress for Hazel) did the best with what she had tow work with but it wasn’t much. She was there to be Paige’s side kick and to help aid white character’s story lines. She honestly felt like the Christie to Paige’s Barbie. In fact here is a a link to an article on what Andrea had to say about her time on Degrassi read and enjoy. https://missandrealewis.com/2013/03/28/new-post-a-real-conversation-about-degrassi-tbt/

4. Audery from Descendants

  I know she is a classist snob and I know she wasn’t the nicest but she didn’t deserve to have her boyfriend stolen from her be dumped in front of the entire school. She deserved to be a more fleshed out character. I mean I wouldn’t really like someone who put a love drug on my boyfriend stole him from me and then he broke up with me in front of the entire school. Anyways Audery deserved better and didn’t deserve to be humiliated.

3. Graham from Once Upon a Time

I am so bitter how Once Upon a Time treated him. He was used abused and then killed off. Adam and Eddie still this day deny that he was raped by Regina.He had his heart ripped out literally as punishment for not killing Snow White. Regina’s ultimatum was basically “Do what I say or you die” and he literally has no choice because his heart in is Regina’s possession and now he is under a curse without his heart so he really has to do what Regina says without even being aware of the “Why” of the situation. This all changes when Emma comes to town and when he kisses Emma he starts to remember he is actually the Huntsmen. The moment he starts to take back control from Regina she kills him by crushing his heart. To me that is not even the worst thing about this situation its the fact that this issue is never addressed and Regina is never called out for raping Graham.

2 Mulan From Once Upon a Time

I used this picture because my heart breaks for this gorgeous character. Mulan a bisexual Asian woman is paid dust and yes it is confirmed she is bisexual by the writers and it honestly feels like Adam and Eddie want to pat themselves on the back for the so called “representation.” Mulan arguably the biggest bad ass of the Disney Princesses was reduced to being an aid for white character story lines. She wasn’t allowed to have a love interest despite everyone around her got to have a love interest and she just kept getting screwed over. I am forever bitter about Sleeping Warrior. That ship had the best chemistry the best build up only for the writers to go the hetro normative route with Aurora. Then we had have been with Ruby and we could have gotten Mulan Rouge. That didn’t happen either. She deserved much better than to be a token character of color to only aid in white character story lines. The treatment of Mulan on Once Upon a Time and the treatment of Angela on Girl Meets World will forever leave a bitter taste in my mouth.

Finally Number 1 Dinah Laurel Lance’/ Black Canary/Black Siren

I am forever bitter on how Arrow treated their most iconic female super hero character. In the comics Dinah Lance was her own hero, was a member of the Justice League and she helped co-find her own hero team called Birds of Prey. She helped people like Sin Lance (Asian character later white washed by Arrow) Helped Roy Harper through his drug addiction and morally centered and is one of the best hand to hand combat fighters. She is up on Batman’s level of hand to hand fighting. However in Arrow she is treated like shit, had a boyfriend who serial cheated on her with her sister, and now he is a dad a child where the baby momma is another woman he cheated with while he was with Laurel. The show had people gas light her and when she finally exploded all of a sudden it was her fault because god forbid she responds like a normal human to being treated like shit for no reason. Sara never apologized to Laurel she just went back to fucking Oliver again despite the fact that is why the Lance family fell apart. Laurel was told she was never good enough to be the Black Canary despite she is the damn Black Canary in the comics. She has helped out Sara and Oliver multiple times despite the fact they are the reason she had to deal with her family falling a part. The people on the show continued to miss treat her. Not once did she get an apology by Oliver or Sara she had to call them out first. Then after the horrible treatment, the gas lighting and mental abuse they show runners decide to kill her off for Olicity. Her dying words are about how Olicity and propping up Oliver and his relationship with Felicity. First off “HOW FUCKING DARE YOU GUYS DO THAT TO LAUREL’ 2 You damn well know how Oliver treated Laurel so you have some damn nerve to do that! Then you have Black Siren get knocked out by Felicity despite the fact she could get up after getting hit by a car on the Flash. Then you weaken her Canary cry when on the Flash it took out a whole building but on Arrow it barely makes the room shake. Then on the Flash great hand to hand combat skills only for her to be easily taken down by team Arrow. The thing that makes me most angry and bitter about this is that I know Katie Cassidy Rodgers actually did her homework on the character she was playing, I know KCR worked out for this role and she was so excited to be in this role. She even had costume design ideas for her Black Canary Suit and you kill her character off for shock value and you wait two episodes before to tell her that Laurel will be the one in the grave. This absolutely disrespectful to the actress and this proves how lazy these writers are.

Anyways this was my rant on characters who deserved better. I would love to know your thoughts.

[walkonwalkonwithhopeinyourheart]

Analysis of Klopp's time at Liverpool so far via /r/LiverpoolFC

Analysis of Klopp's time at Liverpool so far

The objectives of this post are:

Demonstrate the progression since Klopp's arrival;

Appreciate what Klopp has done for Liverpool Football Club;

Refute claims by rival fans and some LFC fans, which include:

Klopp is a checkbook manager who got to where he is by splashing cash;

Klopp is a failure because he hasn't won anything yet;

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Comparisons will be made with:

Arsenal's current season with Unai Emery (Usually brought up by Arsenal fans)

The state of our domestic rivals during the same period of time (since 2016)

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The reason I single out Arsenal here is not that I want to slate them. On the contrary, Arsenal is the only team in the top six other than ourselves that I don't dislike, partly because they were somewhat similar to us in that they are on a drought for the biggest trophies (league titles and Champions League trophies), they have questionable recruitment, they wear red and they didn't really upset me or cause me too much pain in my time as a football fan. For that reason I began to watch AFTV, partly for the banter material, but also to gain some thoughts on their perspectives as fans of another club. In the process, I have become more familiar with Arsenal than I am with other rivals.

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[Main stuff starts here]

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Klopp was appointed as the manager of LFC in October 2015, after a 1-1 draw at Everton in the 8th match of the PL season. Most of you would be familiar with what happened afterwards:

2015-16: 8th in the league, League Cup finalist, Europa League finalist.

2016-17: 4th in the league, League Cup semifinalist.

2017-18: 4th in the league, Champions League finalist.

2018-19: at the very least, 2nd in the league, Champions League quarterfinalist, both competition we are capable of winning as things stand.

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To put things in perspective, these are the seasons immediately before Klopp's arrival (Rodgers in charge):

2014-15: 6th in the league, (8pt off 4th) Champions League Group Stage, Europa League R32, League Cup and FA Cup Semifinalist.

2013-14: 2nd in the league (2pt off 1st)

2012-13: 7th in the league (12 pt off 4th), Europa League R32.

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To summarize, we would be in the Champions League group stages for a third season in a row next season after not qualifying for Champions league 6 out of the 7 seasons before 2017-18. We had two deep European runs in two seasons that we were in European competitions that ended in defeat in finals against stronger opposition and amid controversy (That is not to say we would definitely have won if the referees punished Seville for the three handballs in the box, and sent off Ramos for rugby tackles and elbows to the head, but things could be very different), while the previous European finals were in 2005 and 2007 under Rafa Benitez (a somewhat distant past). We lost a League Cup final in a shootout. Even if we would go on and have another trophyless season this year (BTW, the probability of that is around 50% according to 538's probabilities), we would have another serious title challenge (against arguably one of the best teams ever assembled) and another excellent European campaign.

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We have reemerged as a massive power in English and European football under Klopp's guidance after years of mediocrity. We are now relevant in the Champions League discussions, people begin to put us in the category of Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, and fans of these powerhouses treat us as a threat.

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Now, I'll analyze season by season.

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2015-16 season was pretty much a free pass for Klopp, as he was appointed midway through the season without time to buy his players and implement his tactics. Before his appointment, we sold our best player in Raheem Sterling, Gerrard moved on after contract expired; we bought players like Firmino and Benteke who were not properly utilized by Rodgers. He managed to work with the players he had and beat strong teams like Manchester United, Dortmund and Villareal over two legs, teams that didn't have overhauls and had played under the same manager/ style for several years. Apparently the board agreed and gave Klopp a six year contract after the defeat in Basel.

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After the summer of 2016, Klopp had his first preseason and summer transfer window. At that point, I would say he began to build his own team.

Let's have a look at the (major) businesses we did (including winter window so that we have a summary of every season):

In: Grujic, 5.1M; Mane, 30M; Wijnaldum, 25M; Karius, 4.7M; Klavan, 4.2M; Matip, free. Total: 69M.

Out: Canos, 4.5M; Skrtel, 5.5M; Ibe, 15M; Allen, 13M; Smith, 6M; Benteke, 32M; Alberto, 6M; Ilori, 3.8M. Total: 85.8 M.

Net (spend): -16.8M.

We made a net profit of approximately 1/3 of Raheem Sterling, who left in 2015, after the 2016-17 season. Just a reminder, Klopp inherited a team that sold its best players and lost its leaders, a team that was only capable of finishing 6th-8th for around 6 years bar one season. BBC pundits had us finishing 6th (https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37040156). Instead, we were unbeaten in the top six mini league; we had a realistic title shout until January when Mane went on international duty. Eventually we finished 4th despite injury to Mane later on. Players like Lallana and Firmino, regarded as flops from the Rodgers times, dramatically improved and became integral parts of the team. Coutinho, who was already a good player under Rodgers, became world-class after Klopp became manager.

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Comparing to Arsenal's current season, Unai Emery inherited world class players (or at least, very good players) like Aubameyang, Lacazett, Ozil- even other often criticized players like Xhaka and Mustafi are big signings in the previous seasons and senior internationals for good national teams- and a team that has been consistently in the top four for a long time bar the last two seasons. In the summer of 2016, Arsenal finished their previous season as 2nd, while we were 8th. A quick look at transfermarkt.com told me that Arsenal had a net spend of around 95M prior to Emery's appointment from 2016-2018. On top of that, they spent about 65M (net) in the summer of 2018. They did well to keep Man United and Chelsea behind them and currently sit at 4th, but it's hardly 'Emery working wonders'. Or perhaps it is, but then Klopp would have performed a miracle in his first full season.

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Move on to the summer of 2017, we had a eventful transfer window with the Van Dijk and Coutinho sagas, both of which concluded in January with huge transfers. Our market activities are: (Unit: GBP)

In: Salah, 43.9M; Solanke, 4M; Robertson, 10M; Oxlade-Chamberlain, 35M; Van Dijk, 75M. Total: 167.9M

Out: Wisdom, 4.5M; Lucas, 5M; Stewart, 8M; Sakho, 26M; Coutinho, 142M. Total: 185.5M

Net: -17.6M.

BBC pundits predicted correctly that we would finish 4th (https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40856491). That was also an acknowledgement of how well Klopp has done in his first full season. Basically, in Klopp's first two full seasons, instead of splashing the cash, we made a profit from transfer activities of roughly 35M. We could pay Roma double the amount we did for Salah and we would still almost break even. In the mean time, Klopp has turned this team into a consistent top four team, not to mention the small matter of reaching the Champions League Final, which non of the big spenders in England managed to do for quite a few years. We basically had the top four place assured by February, leading Chelsea by 10pt at one stage, but the league matches became distractions to our Champions League ambitions in April and May. We were poor towards the end of the season, but still managed 4th, Chelsea 5pt behind us.

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Now we arrive in the present. This season, we have been spending big in the market, and as a result, we are seriously challenging the league title instead of fighting for 4th. In back to back seasons, we have been doing well in Champions League. Football fans generally think of Liverpool as a major power again. We are now ranked as one of the best teams in the world. How much money did we spend to achieve that?

In: Keita, 52.8M; Fabinho, 43.7M; Shaqiri, 13.8M; Alisson, 65M. Total: 175M

Out: Can, free; Ings, 20M; Ward, 12.5M; Klavan, 2M; Solanke, 19M. Total: 53.5M

Net: 121.5M.

Grand total of Klopp's transfer activities: net spend of around 87.1M.

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Klopp turned the 2015 Liverpool, a mediocre team shall I say, into one of the best in the world with a net spend of 87M. Smart business is a big factor, but that is also credited to Klopp. Many of us, myself included, had doubts over some of those signings above. Rival fans were laughing at the signings we made. Mane 'the annual Southampton purchase', Salah 'the Chelsea reject', Van Dijk was apparently the biggest waste of money of all time, etc. Every one of them has at the very least lived up to his price tag, with the possible exception of Naby Keita, and he has plenty of time since he has been here for less than a year. Many players have 'overperformed' under Klopp, Coutinho a prime example, as he was nowhere near as effective at Barcelona. Sadio Mane, Mohamed Salah and Roberto Firmino wouldn't be better than they are now if they were in another system with another manager.

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Comparing with the other English clubs' trajectories since summer 2016:

Man City: Net spend 360M, from a title challenger to one of the best teams in the world.

Man Utd: Net spend 290M, from an underperforming top four team to an underperforming title challenger/top four team.

Chelsea: Net spend 200M, from a occasional title challenger and a fairly consistent top four team to a top four challenger.

Arsenal: Net spend 150M, from a consistent top four team to a top four challenger.

Tottenham: Net spend 40M, from a consistent top four team to a consistent top four team.

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Numbers are from transfermarkt.com and converted to GBP for our rivals, while the data for Liverpool is from lfchistory.net which include all the potential add-on fees for both incoming and outgoing transfers. I would have used transfermarkt for Liverpool too, (the net spend is around 100M according to them) but I found that lfchistroy's records are consistent with what we saw in news articles, and I don't bother to look for similar websites for other clubs (I don't know if mcfchistory.net exists, for example). There might be some bias, but not deviating from the actual numbers a lot.

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We have had the greatest improvement among England's top teams with a relatively modest spending (not taking into account that the only season that we have a positive net spend happened after the huge inflation of the market after the Neymar deal). We were a Europa League quality team before Klopp took over, we were miles behind the likes of Manchester City who already had Aguero, Kompany, David Silva and De Bruyne etc in the team. We were behind Tottenham, who practically had the same established team as they do now. We were behind Manchester United, as they could always afford the best player available in the market. Arsenal might not have the biggest star in the league, but they always finished in the top four and usually had a good title chance until around Feb/Mar. Chelsea were sometimes inconsistent, but they won the league not long ago and had players like Eden Hazard. Now, we have overtaken most of them and closed the gap on Man City despite their huge spending. That's the main progression of this club under Klopp.

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Oh, and we have been playing exciting attacking football since his arrival. Fans can actually enjoy watching football matches again. We are showing great team spirit, and the vibe around the club is very positive. Add these to his achievement list as well.

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Has he won anything yet? No. But he deserves to have won at least one by now in my opinion. He has come close on three occasions already, and would at the very least, came close again this season. Remember our starting point was very different from Pep Guardiola's Man City, or Jose Mourinho's Man Utd, or Pochettino's Spurs. Even Emery's Arsenal has a better foundation than we did.

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That's not to say I'll be happy with 2nd this season, nor to make early excuses. It would be incredibly frustrating if we couldn't win the league when we were 7pt up at the midpoint of the season. I voiced my disappointment and pessimism in those recent draws in the league. But finishing 2nd this year wouldn't make Klopp a failure or a fraud, if you consider that Man City probably still have a much better overall squad than we do, and the point I have been trying to make in the post, which is that Klopp has done enough for the club to be described as a success so far.

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Hopefully, we could win at least one of those two major trophies at the end, and then this post would be rendered absolutely redundant.

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*Edit: arguments were made that we actually spent a lot of money, it's just that we managed to sell our players for good prices. Well, if you sell a player, you replace him. If you sell expensive players, you need to buy expensive players as well to keep yourself at that level.

Here is the other teams' expenditures in the past seasons for comparison:

Man City- 520M

Man Utd- 400M

Chelsea- 510M

Arsenal- 300M

Tottenham- 180M

(Source- transfermarkt)

Liverpool- 410M, lfchistory

You can decide for yourself what this means. IMO, this only shows that Klopp deserves more credit. Imagine you are John Henry, you said to Klopp: take these 400M and give me a world class football team. Klopp did it and returned more than 300M back to you. Would you think that the fact that Klopp managed to improve this team drastically while keeping most of that fund still available is actually very impressive?

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[wow-its-christophe]

Sorry if I got anything wrong in the first pic btw I'm tired and we usually main Rodger/Glisten or Rodger/Glisten and Toodles

Okay, so anyway,

Toodles, in her dialogue with Rodger, shows frequent interest in his cases ("Rodger, tell me all about your latest cases! Please, please, please!!!"), asks to help ("If it isn't the bravest little detective!" "Hey Rodger!! Am I able to help in your next case??"), and keeps track of how much she asks and is told "next time" (She is a child, so she's obviously exaggerating when she said "You've said that like... a bajillion times now.", but she asks quite frequently.)

Then, while talking with Glisten, they are shown to talk at least a bit ("Toodles! Hiii buddy! How are you? You better be good!"). Toodles feels confident in asking Glisten for help with her make-up ("Hmm... Can you do makeup for me later?") but never asks Teagan ( "Teagan… are we going to have a tea party later?" is her only dialogue with Teagan).

The last one is more self explanatory. She does watch them though ("Yeah! Even when you're doing that thing where you cry and complain to Rodger!").

@dabananaman thanks for prompting this /gen

I was going off huh

[junker-town]

The 9 dumbest mistakes from NFL Week 12, ranked

Photo by Amy Lemus/NurPhoto via Getty Images

Almost everyone was sluggish in an ugly week in the NFL. But no one screwed up worse than Jason Garrett (again).

No one really wants to work hard this week. Thanksgiving — a perfect holiday that marries football, food, family, and online shopping — is mere days away. We are all just skating until Wednesday afternoon gets here and we peace out a few hours early to try to beat the traffic (spoiler: we will not).

That pre-holiday restlessness extends to the football field, apparently. Many teams, players, coaches, and officials looked entirely unenthused to be working this Sunday, because it showed in ugly game after ugly game.

Week 12 was summed up most accurately by the Patriots’ 13-9 win over the Cowboys. What should have been an exciting matchup between two of the most popular (and hated) teams in the NFL turned into a rain-soaked slopfest. The offense was at a minimum, the only real highlight came via a blocked punt, the refs decided to call two BS tripping penalties that confused everyone, and Jason Garrett’s decision-making might’ve earned himself a one-way ticket to New York.

(Oops, we might’ve spoiled the top spot on this week’s rankings. What can we say? We’re ready for Thanksgiving too.)

On that note, here’s a lazy bit of transition to bring you the nine dumbest mistakes from Week 12:

9. Mike Glennon fumbled twice in three snaps during garbage time

The Raiders got blown out by the Jets 34-3, and things got so bad that head coach Jon Gruden surrendered in the third quarter when he benched Derek Carr. That’s when backup Mike Glennon came into the game and promptly fumbled two times ... in the first three snaps:

Raiders QB Mike Glennon has trouble with the snap pic.twitter.com/FKsQkqPC2B

— Main Team (@MainTeamSports) November 24, 2019

Glennon stayed in for the rest of the game. He completed 4 of 7 passes for just 20 yards. His longest of five drives gained just 15 yards. He led the Raiders to exactly zero points. That’s the peak Mike Glennon experience right there.

8. The Packers keep going backward returning punts

Nothing much went right for the Packers in a 37-8 loss to the 49ers, especially on offense. The 49ers’ pass rush bullied the Green Bay offensive line. Aaron Rodgers was sacked five times, fumbled once, and put up a Blake Bortles-like stat line.

But don’t let that distract you from how bad their punt return game has been. Tremon Smith returned two punts for a grand total of -3 yards. That’s not great, but it’s even worse when you realize it’s been that way the entire season:

UPDATE: The Packers now have NEGATIVE 11 punt return yards on the ENTIRE SEASON.

— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) November 25, 2019

The Packers are approaching historically inept levels with their punt return game. The 1965 Cardinals own the record for fewest punt returns yards in a season with 27, which is at least, y’know, a positive number.

So is the number of punt return yards Trevor Davis has with the Raiders this season: 108. The Packers traded him to Oakland in September, btw.

7. This terrible Mitchell Trubisky throw resulted in a pick, naturally

It hadn’t been a great week for Trubisky — season, really, but let’s just focus on this week. He was benched late in a loss to the Rams in Week 11, supposedly because of the hip injury he’s dealing with, even if everyone believes it was because he was stinking it up on the field.

Still, Trubisky mostly played better Sunday against the Giants. The Bears were up 19-7 in the fourth quarter and had a chance to add to their lead. That’s when he reverted back to his worst form and chucked the ball downfield right into the hands of Julian Love.

Julian Love!!! Guy had a rough week in his personal life. Getting his first real reps this week and his first NFL interception!! pic.twitter.com/9DKp2gYaIc

— Bobby Skinner (@BobbySkinner_) November 24, 2019

The Bears’ defense saved Trubisky and didn’t let the Giants score off of this turnover, at least. But it was his second pick of the game — the first came in the red zone — and the kind of terribly ill-advised throw that makes it easy to start picturing any number of veteran quarterbacks in a Bears uniform next season.

6. A Raiders stop turned into a Jets TD due to an awful roughing penalty

Oakland forced the Jets into a third-and-16 from the Raiders’ 20-yard line after Maxx Crosby picked up a clutch sack of Sam Darnold — or so the team thought. But Maurice Hurst’s dogged pursuit of the New York quarterback was ruled too violent for the back judge, even though nothing about his clean-up tackle seemed excessive.

One of the worst roughing the passer calls you’ll see. Probably cost Raiders four points. pic.twitter.com/Bu59Zd9Epd

— Dan Hanzus (@DanHanzus) November 24, 2019

Jon Gruden, uh, was not happy to say the least!

I think Jon Gruden said “Happy Thanksgiving”. pic.twitter.com/gKWRLirNB7

— Ryan Field (@RyanFieldABC) November 24, 2019

Instead of third-and-long, the Jets were treated to first-and-goal from the 4-yard line. One play later, Darnold scampered into the end zone to give his team a 10-3 lead.

5. Cam Jordan gave a Panthers’ drive new life with a stupid punch

The Saints got off to a 14-0 start early against Carolina, but the Panthers fought their way back throughout the second quarter to close that gap — and they can thank Jordan for six of those points.

Demario Davis had wrapped up quarterback Kyle Allen for the Saints’ second straight sack, bringing up what should have been fourth-and-long with a little more than three minutes left in the first half. But as officials whistled the play dead, Jordan swarmed Allen and decked him with a punch/shiver combination that connected with the Panther’s facemask and sent him to the turf.

Cameron Jordan tried to punch the ball out after the whistle and smashed Kyle Allen in the face instead, which is frowned upon pic.twitter.com/QQycxKnExJ

— Christian D'Andrea (@TrainIsland) November 24, 2019

This post-whistle forearm strike led to an easy unnecessary roughness call from the back judge. Rather than punting on fourth-and-26, Carolina was gifted a new set of downs. The Panthers then drove 56 yards to score a touchdown as time expired in the first half, cutting what could have been a 24-9 New Orleans lead down to 17-15.

Jordan would take to Twitter afterward to claim responsibility for his mistake shortly after the game.

Sheesh! Gotta hear that whistle... was trying to punch the ball out and make a big play ended up costing my defense... that’s on me gotta hear that whistle...

— cameron jordan (@camjordan94) November 24, 2019

He’s lucky it didn’t cost them the win because ...

4. The Panthers couldn’t get the ball in the end zone late AGAIN

For the third time this season, Carolina couldn’t score late in the red zone when it needed to. With just over two minutes left, it looked as if Kyle Allen was about to lead a game-winning touchdown drive. After Ron Rivera won a defensive pass interference challenge (AGAINST THE SAINTS), the Carolina offense had first-and-goal from the New Orleans 3-yard line.

Then the Panthers’ offense went backward, and lost 7 yards in three plays:

Coming out of the two-minute warning, Panthers kicker Joey Slye missed a 28-yarder, which allowed the Saints to counter with a game-winning field goal of their own to win it.

The worst part about this? This is now the third time the Panthers have lost a game late because they couldn’t score in the red zone. During losses to the Bucs and Packers this year, Christian McCaffrey was stopped short of the goal line.

3. Carson Wentz forgot how to throw a football

The Eagles had a chance to take an early 7-0 lead over the visiting Seahawks when Wentz dropped back on third-and-9 from the Seattle 10-yard line. Tailback Miles Sanders had darted out toward the sideline, and a soft toss would give him the chance to find the end zone and make a statement that the two-point home underdog wouldn’t be easily dismissed.

Instead, Wentz made a very different statement, one he’s made entirely too often this season.

Carson What? pic.twitter.com/22r9hkIijX

— Sean Wagner-McGough (@seanjwagner) November 24, 2019

Wentz threw a pass straight out of junior high gym class, missing Sanders by roughly five yards. The Eagles settled for a 28-yard field goal moments later.

2. Russell Wilson topped Carson Wentz with an even worse miss

The throw by Wentz to Sanders was bad, but that one wasn’t a guaranteed touchdown. The Eagles running back was going to evade a Seahawks defender or two to get into the end zone.

Wilson’s overthrow of Jacob Hollister in the end zone was way worse.

Third and goal, Wilson runs out the pocket and throws a duck to a wide-open Jacob Hollister.#Eagles got lucky. pic.twitter.com/QFAdylacRv

— DIE-HARD Fans (@Eaglesfans9) November 24, 2019

There’s a real chance Wilson wins the NFL MVP award and his ability to avoid the Eagles’ pass rush at the beginning of the play was a perfect example why. Lobbing a ball way over Hollister’s head and out of the back of the end zone isn’t going to help his résumé, though.

Rather than taking a double-digit lead in the second quarter, the Seahawks had to settle for a chip-shot field goal to go up 10-3.

1. Jason Garrett coached his way out of a possible upset win over the Patriots

Neither Dallas nor New England could generate much offense on a cold, rainy, and windy afternoon in Foxborough. That weather, combined with the Patriots’ suffocating defense, put a premium on points for Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. And this idea, apparently, terrified Jason Garrett.

Or, in other words:

Jason Garrett is such a chicken shit.

— David Fucillo (@davidfucillo) November 25, 2019

The Cowboys’ head coach opted for a field goal on fourth-and-7 from the Patriots’ 11, cutting a 13-6 New England lead to 13-9 with six minutes to play and reducing Dallas’ burden from needing a touchdown in the final minutes of the game to ... needing a touchdown in the final minutes of the game.

So why not go for it? If they had failed to convert, then the Patriots would’ve gotten the ball deep in their own territory and Dallas could’ve relied on its defense to force a punt.

Instead, the Cowboys didn’t touch the ball again until there was 2:38 left on the clock and they had to start from their own 8-yard line. Dallas’ day came to an unsurprising end when its ensuing drive gained just 17 yards (thanks in part to a questionable tripping call) before a turnover on downs.

Garrett’s decision ensured the Cowboys only lost by four points and not seven. It also left Jerry Jones frustrated. At this rate, maybe Garrett will be coaching the Giants next season after all.

[powerranks]

Power Rankings: Week 1 Playoffs Edition

To you esteemed gentlemen who made it this far, I applaud you. We fuckin did it! Time for all the stress, hours of research, agony, and heartbreak to come to fruition. I think we can safely say that the best six teams made it, and I’m glad we locked this up one week in advance. 

I’m gonna do a power rankings of the six playoff teams, then give a little bit of insight into both matchups for the first week of the playoffs.

Bye Week Tier

1. Fournette About It (Jack “holy shit you’re lucky you’re on bye” Cleek) (11-2) 

You probably still would’ve won but WOW you have awful matchups up and down the board this week. I’m not sure what else there is to write about your team at this point. it’s either gonna take injury or ridiculous circumstance to beat you. When Kyle Rudolph is by FAR and away the worst player on your starting lineup, things can’t be going bad. It’ll be interesting to see who you end up playing next week, because it totally flips and you have incredible matchups.

2. Scott’s Balls (Anthony “Marvin Jones can put up 35+ in the title game against me, he still sucks and isn’t fantasy relevant” Mendola) (11-2)

I took a look at your past few weeks, your players have been remarkably consistent at scoring touchdowns. You’ve had three non passing touchdowns every week going back to week 8. My only concern with your team is that you finally get a week in which you don’t get those additional 18+ points. Everyone’s had a no touchdown week, is it regression to the mean time for you?

Aside from that I think you have favorable week 15 matchups and while you’re clearly the second best team, you’re closer to Jack than most people give you credit for. I’d almost rather play Jack because your ceiling is higher because of the touchdowns.

The Legitimate Contenders Tier

3. Perriman4MVP (Alex “you’re literally only alive because of the Scott trade and I’m still SO upset and now the scott trade is directly fucking me in the playoffs” Ahn) (8-5)

I’ve been low on your team for quite some time but it’s been a sustained run of good scores for you and I can’t keep sleeping on you. I still legitimately believe some of the Ravens stuff is ridiculous and unsustainable, but it’s gotten you here and you come into the playoffs off of your highest week all year. You’re in a good spot, you have decent matchups, and now you have Mike Evans, who has been disappointing but presents massive upside against a decent matchup. Good luck this week buddy.

4. Green Evans and Kam (Beshoy “you and alex made me have to refuckin write this because of your trade you stupid assholes” Halim) (7-6) 

Last minute trade!!! A win now move by Beshoy bumps you up to here. As much as it pains me to say that Alfred Morris was the one bullet you got for AARON CHARLES RODGERS and MIKE EVANS, it was a legitimate move since you weren’t starting either anyways. (This is one of those trades we’re going to look back on with zero context and laugh at like we did in Anthony’s the other day btw) I’m terrified of Mike Evans, but there’s no denying that he’s been disappointing. I think this hurts you going forward, but for this particular week it helps you beat Alec. Kamara getting hurt was the worst case scenario, but you can spin it and look at it in the sense that Kamara at least got you three, and Lutz had a bad game. Kamara needs you this week Beshoy, step your game up and fucking do it for him.

5. Mixon It Up (Alec “sneakily, GM of the year” Bernstein) (7-6)

I’ve bumped you down a bit this week because Mixon was just starting to get consistent and I’d feel a lot better about flexing him and not having to start one of the three receivers you’re throwing out there. I’m also bumping you down a little bit because a 97 point floor is cool in the regular season, but it isn’t beating ANYONE’s good day. I still think you might tortoise your way into a ring, but the playoffs are where low scoring teams get exposed. Speaking of low scoring teams...

The I’m Just Happy To Be Here Tier

6. Scott’s Penis (David “tank hard for bernard” Chinchilla) (6-7)

It’s not a reverse jynx I swear, in fact I think I have a decent chance of beating Alex. However my team is trash, scored less than 90 points a week this year and just happened to pick up some timely wins. I’m heading into playoffs on a two game hot streak but it’s been on the back of defensive touchdowns (fluky, can’t depend on them) and Keenan Allen going absolutely buckwild. I think a first round exit is likely, but if I make the second round I’ll be getting SPANKED by the bye week bois. I’m just here for the ride and hope I get hot like 2013 Flacco baby

MATCHUPS

Okay so how this will work: I’ll write up something brief about your QB’s, something briefer about your skill guys, and something even briefer about your defense/kicker with my personal projections for each individual player. At the end, I’ll have a prediction based on my own projections. 

Perriman4MVP Vs. Scott’s Penis

QB Analysis:

David: Alex Smith Vs. Oakland

Let’s face it, Oakland is fucking trash at playing defense, but somehow fantasy QB’s haven’t done a whole hell of a lot of damage against them. I can’t really point my finger as to why, especially since they only have one interception all year and it was off a fluke deflection against Paxton Lynch. Matt Nagy took over play calling duties for the Chiefs last game and they nutted creamy baby juice all over the above average Jets D, so there’s no reason for Smith to not have a good game right? Wrong. Against the Giants (the actual best possible QB matchup) in week 11, Smith put up a total dud. I’m tempering expectations while knowing the upside is there. Projected Points: 18.8

Alex: Jimmy Garoppolo Vs. Houston

Would you look at that, the Niners look like they got a good QB. Garoppolo looked really impressive against an above average Bears D and should only improve and get more comfortable with Kyle Shanahan’s offense. Houston can’t defend the pass at all, but the only thing making me think Jimmy might not have a good game is the fact that his weapons are so limited. I’d love to see what this offense would’ve looked like with Garcon out there, because as cool as Marquis Goodwin might be, he’s the talent equivalent of Taylor Gabriel. Aldrick Robinson and Louis Murphy aren’t likely going to be making huge plays for him out there. I think he has a good game, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the lack of consistent weapons makes it tough for him. Projected Points: 16.3

RB Analysis:

David: McCoy vs. Indy /Hyde @ Hou/ Nard Dog Vs. Chi

McCoy: The Bills just keep finding ways to fuck me. First it was the Benjamin trade, and now it’s starting Nathan Fucking Peterman to turn an amazing Shady matchup into just a decent one against a stacked box. Indy sucks anal beads on defense, so Shady could still break off a few runs but I was HYPED for this before they announced Peterman. Proj: 11.4

Hyde: Houston’s a tougher run defense than I think anyone gives them credit for, and Breida’s role increases by the week, so I really think Hyde has a down week this week. I just can’t sit the guy’s guaranteed 20 touches. Proj: 7.5

Nard Dog: Bernard looked really good after Mixon left last week with a concussion, and with no other healthy RB on the roster, his role should expand greatly this week. Chicago is TOUGH against the run, but his receiving ability should give him a nice floor. Proj: 10.8

Alex: Murray @ CAR / Collins @ PIT

Murray: First real tough run defense since Murray took over a starring role in the Vikings backfield. We’ll see if he can keep it up against Luke Kuechly & crew, but the floor is going to be SO nice with the amount of touches he gets and the goal line work. Proj: 9.5

Collins: Obviously nobody ever wants to see a player get hurt and I know this isn’t something to be happy about, but Shazier being out really makes this matchup a lot better for Collins. This rivalry game is always super ugly, but I think Collins manages to get out of there with a TD. Proj: 10.1

WR Analysis:

David: Gordon Vs. GB / Allen Vs. Was

Gordon: If I win, it will most likely be because Gordon had a good game against Packers defense that High School Me could’ve had 100 yards against. If Kizer doesn’t get my guy the ball, he should face the electric chair. Proj: 14

Allen: I’m forever indebted to this dude for carrying my ass here. I even feel bad for throwing him into trade packages that involved me getting like Stefon Diggs back as the main piece. Ugh. Allen does most of his work in the slot, making me think Josh Norman won’t be on him 100 percent of the time. Hopefully he keeps up even 50% of what he’s been the past few weeks. Proj: 13

Alex: Tyreek @ OAK / M. Thomas @ ATL / M. Evans Vs. Det

Tyreek: Terrified. Honestly terrified. Oakland has nobody who can run with him and Alex Smith just heaves it to him a few times a game. Think he has a second consecutive big game. Proj: 16

Thomas: Honestly looked incredible against Atlanta. Made huge contested catches and really showed what he could’ve been if the Saints didn’t turn into a ground and pound offense. Got 17.7

Evans: The wild card. I’ll be honest, I’d rather have played Morris personally because Darius Slay has murdered #1 wideouts (only Jalen Ramsey, Aqib Talib & Jimmy Smith have been better) but he’s still Mike god damn Evans. Wouldn’t be surprised to at least see him have a decent game, but I think he continues his mediocre streak. Proj: 6.5

TE Analysis:

David: Brate Vs. Det

Don’t feel good about starting him. Incredibly TD dependent, but Detroit is 31st in DVOA against tight ends, Jameis LOVES him in the RZ, and Jameis doesn’t seem to look OJ Howard’s way as much as Fitz did. Proj: 9.1

Alex: Kelce Vs. Oak

#1 Tight end Vs. a team that can’t defend them and a new coordinator who will get him the ball down the field more often. Can’t be more scared. Proj: 13.5

K/Def Analysis

David: Zuerlein Vs. Phi / NE @ MIA

Zuerlein: Truly has been like having a second QB on my team. I might love him more than Keenan Allen. However, his only bad games came against teams with good defenses, and Philly is definitely a good defense. I’d be an idiot to not start the dude, but I could easily see the Rams end up with 21 points and him not kick any non PATs. Proj: 8

Patriots: Patriots always have trouble @ Miami, but how can I pass up the chance to start a defense against Jay Cutler? I’ve started a defense against Miami for three straight weeks now with wild success rates and I feel pretty good about this one too. Proj: 12

Alex: Tucker @ Pit / Ravens @ Pit

Tucker: Heinz is historically a difficult place to kick, but Tucker is a fucking G and should thrive anyways in a game that should be low scoring. Wouldn’t be surprised if he had three attempts over 50 yards. Proj: 12

Ravens: Losing Jimmy Smith the week you play AB isn’t good, but the Steelers won’t have JuJu. Could totally go either way, again usually this game is low scoring but the Steelers have way too much offensive talent for me to think the Ravens have a massive defensive game. Proj: 8

Final Prediction: 

David 104.6 - Alex 109.6

Mixon It Up Vs. Green Evans and Kam

QB Analysis

Beshoy: Philip Rivers Vs. WAS

The mastermind behind a passing game that’s trending ALL the way up, Rivers should stay hot against a middle of the road Redskins D. I think the Chargers have finally realized that Hunter Henry and Keenan Allen should get the majority of the targets and things will work themselves out. The only thing that worries me is that Rivers is a gunslinger and it’s been three weeks without an interception for the guy and that’s unlike him. Washington isn’t the defense to force him into a bad game, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he threw one this week. Despite that, I’d start the guy with total confidence. Proj: 20.3

Alec: Russell Wilson @ JAX

#1 Fantasy QB against the #1 Defense in the league. Should be interesting. Wilson has been out of his mind this year, but it’s gonna be really really hard for him to mask his line’s deficiencies against a defense that’s so fucking stacked. My projection is still going to be absurdly high considering who he’s playing, but I’m sure he’ll pull some Russ shit out of his ass and drop 24 somehow. Proj: 21

RB Analysis

Beshoy: Gordon Vs. WAS / Kamara @ ATL / Morris @ NYG

Gordon: Ekeler is clearly better than this dude, it’s honestly a Ingram/Kamara or Hyde/Breida situation. The only thing keeping Gordon afloat is guaranteed touches, and I like his goal line chances against a middle of the road Redskins D. Proj: 11.5

Kamara: I feel terrible for the dude and you by association. Such a bummer but you have no choice but to go make it up. Got 2.7

Morris: Amazing matchup, gave up a king’s ransom for him, needs to do well. Only concern is that the Cowboys have run so hot and hold, divisional games are always a concern, and the Giants may play with the interim coach boost... Proj 13 

Alec: L. Miller Vs. SF / Burkhead @ MIA

Miller: Ultra consistent, almost boringly consistent and hasn’t slowed down since the Watson injury. He hasn’t been able to super exploit some good matchups so I doubt he goes off here either. Proj: 9.7

Burkhead: It’s unbelievable how the Patriots seem to only let the white dudes get the touchdowns. Lewis does literally all of the work for Burkhead to come in and score. Miami is a good matchup for him, I think he continues to have good games. Proj: 14

WR Analysis

Beshoy: A. Green Vs. Chi / Hopkins Vs. SF

Green: Has been excellent since you got him. Scoring a lot recently and the Bears are a better run D than they are a pass D. Think he has a huge game for you. Proj: 16

Hopkins: Target monster. The Lamar Miller of WR’s because of that target share. Should keep on keeping on his usual 12 even against a decent SF pass defense. Proj: 12.5

Alec: Thielen @ CAR / D. Adams @ CLE / M. Lee Vs. SEA

Thielen: One of, if not THE feel good story of the season at the WR spot. Has fallen off a bit recently because of some tough matchups and I think the downward slide continues for another week. Carolina isn’t a phenomenal pass D, but Keenum has been a better IRL QB than he’s been a fantasy QB recently, and Thielen’s numbers have fallen a bit because of it. Proj: 8.8

Adams: Hundley’s #1. Fell off last week amid a dreadful offensive performance against a bad defense. Hundley seems to trade off horrible games with ones that are passable for his receivers numbers-wise. Should have a bounceback game but I’m not expecting anything crazy, even against Cleveland. Proj: 8.9

M. Lee: My personal random dude who I think is going to do really well this weekend. Seattle has no corners left and Bortles has low key been okay the past three weeks. Would not surprise me at all to see 100 yards and a touchdown. Proj: 13

TE Analysis

Beshoy: Henngod Vs. WAS

He’s two years into his career and I honestly think he’s gonna be one of my favorite players for the next decade. So fun to watch and he clearly already has a really good rapport with Rivers. The second half of this season has seemed to officially be the passing of the torch from Gates and I think he gets his usual 8-9 targets. Proj: 8.5

Alec: Graham @ JAX

Russell loves him in the red zone, and for good reason. The dude is huge and can box anyone out. This week he has a really tough matchup and he does kind of seem to get taken out of games by teams who can match his physicality and I could see that happening. I think his TD streak might end this week but you never know. Proj: 10.5

K/DEF Analysis

Beshoy: Prater @ TB / JAX Vs. SEA

Prater: Last week was a blip in the radar, dude will be fine. Detroit should move the ball relatively easily against Tampa. Proj: 12

Jags D: They won’t be sacking Wilson too many times, and Wilson takes care of the ball. Horrendous matchup but I wouldn’t sit them, they’ve been un fucking believable this year. Proj: 7

Alec: Lutz @ ATL / Min @ CAR

Lutz: Meh game. Saints O clearly affected by not having Kamara. Got 5

Vikes D: Interesting choice. Carolina runs hot and cold more than any team in the league on offense, you’re just hoping you chose the right side of the coin. It’s a talented unit, but it hasn’t translated into a good fantasy year. Proj: 11

Final Prediction:

Beshoy 103.5 - Alec 101.9

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Aaron Rodgers and Shooter McGavin got into ‘Happy Gilmore’ themed Twitter beef

Shooter McGavin is a fictitious character from the movie Happy Gilmore, the consensus second-best golf movie of all time. Aaron Rodgers is a real, living quarterback for the Green Bay Packers.

In the movie, McGavin is a star professional golfer who becomes a nemesis to Adam Sandler’s Happy Gilmore, a hockey-loving pugilist who storms onto the pro golf scene and eventually beats Shooter in the also-fictional Tour Championship. McGavin’s legacy has lived on, in the form of a parody Twitter account with more than 300,000 followers.

What follows is a play-by-play of a Twitter war between McGavin (who’s not real) and Rodgers (who is) on Wednesday and Thursday.

Strap in, this will take some time.

It begins with the news that Rodgers is cutting back on playing golf. That gets McGavin — a passionate ambassador for the sport — involved.

.@AaronRodgers12 Rodgers, you know playing golf is a great way to stay in shape? I remember I once ran 3 miles during a round of golf in ’96 pic.twitter.com/dT7BB5gs4i

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

In this scene from the movie, Happy has just beaten Shooter to win the championship with a preposterous putt. McGavin steals the champion’s gold jacket (like the green jacket at the Masters, get it?) and tries to run away with it. He is chased down by Mr. Larson, a friend of Happy’s who is leading an angry mob in hot pursuit.

Let’s return to the back-and-forth:

How much of a workout could it have been if you got caught by that guy?#alternativefacts #futurechamp #NationalParksWeek https://t.co/HHyNtiULMI

— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) April 20, 2017

Larson being slow is fake news. The guy should have been in the NFL chasing quarterbacks and not on golf courses chasing innocent golfers https://t.co/aCnuEBQicu

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

Rodgers responds by making a couple of grisly accusations.

Innocent? You had Gilmore run over in the final round and still couldn’t beat him. Also you took out Gilmore’s coach Chubbs. #whistleblower https://t.co/Boe4oSxS1H

— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) April 20, 2017

McGavin responds in two parts:

To insinuate I had anything to do with that minor incident is a joke. Though, I do applaud that fan for confronting Happy in a civil manner. https://t.co/Ec7HSLqHTq

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

I’m skeptical of this. McGavin probably put the guy up to it. But there’s been no legal proceeding finding McGavin guilty of a conspiracy, so he’s in the clear. The statute of limitations on ordering someone to run over a competitor in a car has passed, since this movie was filmed in the 1990s. Shooter got away with it, if he did it.

https://youtu.be/O0HKf55x9Qw

Here’s where McGavin has a point: Chubbs’ tragic death was the result of Gilmore showing him the severed head of an alligator that had previously bitten off Chubbs’ head, sending him backward in fear and through a window to his death. There’s no indication that McGavin was involved in any way in Chubbs’ passing.

https://youtu.be/OaWFlvOWAqQ

McGavin isn’t putting up with this, ahem, allegation.

Also, Gilmore cold bloodily murdered Chubbs at his apartment. It’s a shame the Massachusetts police never investigated the matter. https://t.co/Ec7HSLqHTq

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

Rodgers took issue with McGavin’s characterization of the car chase down.

Minor incident? The two bikers in the woods was a minor incident that you used as an excuse for poor play. #CityOfPortlandHatesYou#Comedy https://t.co/AM5qJsrdn8

— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) April 20, 2017

There were, indeed, a couple of naked bikers getting it on in the woods off the 17th hole while McGavin was trying to execute his short game.

https://youtu.be/9JfVLY0f5rQ

McGavin’s not having it.

Sure Rodgers. You try passing to Jordy Nelson with two bikers having sex on the sidelines and let me know how that goes. #ChicagoHatesYou https://t.co/vHYeaFXHOR

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

I’ve never been to Lambeau Field, but this has probably happened.

It’s called focus Shooter. Like the focus Happy showed on the 18th when the tower fell. Like the focus Happy had when he dropped Bob Barker https://t.co/Hnrtp1btwP

— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) April 20, 2017

Happy did knock the hell out of Bob Barker, though he also got some back.

https://youtu.be/8QJiAK-s5a0

Happy also sunk a putt to ruin McGavin’s life after a camera tower fell between his ball and the hole. It was a remarkable feat of concentration.

https://youtu.be/XT6e7P7z_Us

McGavin’s being a baby now.

Focus? I think you meant to say Luck. The only thing Happy focused on was disgracing the game of golf. Barker won that fight too. #snackbar https://t.co/VGEpiRNMGJ

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

Memory refresher for @AaronRodgers12 pic.twitter.com/7BtBvONXca

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

Happy tried to help Bob up, Bob cheapshotted him. You tried to hit on Virginia, she chose Happy. You went for Grandma. #facts #RIPChubbs https://t.co/p5d7bnJKh1

— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) April 20, 2017

Rodgers makes another strong point here. Happy beat out Shooter for Virginia, the movie’s main love interest, and Shooter responded by trying to have sex with Happy’s grandma. It wasn’t a classy move, and Shooter’s still being inappropriate.

Gilmore delivered an all time cheap shot to Bob off the bat. I preferred Grandma over Virginia. She’s more my type #ExpertFrenchKisser #KISS https://t.co/vTTHguP4Js

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

Things got petty from there. Rodgers is dismissing the authenticity of the clip that shows Barker dropping his ass, and McGavin is denying his involvement with the guy who he probably put up to trying to kill Gilmore with a car.

That clip is obliviously doctored. #fakenews U passed up a free meal from an attempted murderer hired by you. U are what u eat for breakfast https://t.co/QDz8CU5x5T

— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) April 20, 2017

The only thing doctored was that meeting. He wanted to meet Gilmore and I told him where they could meet. I had no idea he’d run him over. https://t.co/WOQdl2akNA

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

It’s clap-back season, folks.

Do we have a problem? I’ve got Larson on call, he wants 2 just have a “meeting” with u. Btw Chubbs is dating Grandma in Heaven. U lose again https://t.co/NY3ptmxPO7

— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) April 20, 2017

Hope this happens:

We do have a problem and I’m fine with meeting both of you tomorrow night on the 9th green at 9. I’d like to iron this out. Cool? #DressNice https://t.co/0DBLXsZ2pN

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

Hope this doesn’t:

Also, don’t be saying blasphemous things like Grandma Gilmore is cheating on Shooter. She would never kiss another man after kissing Shooter https://t.co/0DBLXsZ2pN

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

And a good time was had by all.

I score this a victory for Rodgers, who gets to go on being a millionaire quarterback and a real, living entity. But McGavin put up a feisty showing.

[junker-town]

Aaron Rodgers and Shooter McGavin got into Happy Gilmore-themed Twitter beef

I declare Rodgers the victor.

Shooter McGavin is a fictitious character from the movie Happy Gilmore, the consensus second-best golf movie of all-time. Aaron Rodgers is a real, living quarterback for the Green Bay Packers.

In the movie, McGavin is a star professional golfer who becomes a nemesis to Adam Sandler’s Happy Gilmore, a hockey-loving pugilist who storms onto the pro golf scene and eventually beats Shooter in the also-fictional Tour Championship. McGavin’s legacy has lived on, in the form of a parody Twitter account with more than 300,000 followers.

What follows is a play-by-play of a Twitter war between McGavin (who’s not real) and Rodgers (who is) on Wednesday and Thursday.

Strap in; this will take some time.

It begins with the news that Rodgers is cutting back on playing golf. That gets McGavin — a passionate ambassador for the sport — involved.

.@AaronRodgers12 Rodgers, you know playing golf is a great way to stay in shape? I remember I once ran 3 miles during a round of golf in '96 http://pic.twitter.com/dT7BB5gs4i

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

In this scene from the movie, Happy has just beaten Shooter to win the championship with a preposterous putt. McGavin steals the champion’s gold jacket (like the green jacket at the Masters; get it?) and tries to run away with it. He is chased down by Mr. Larson, a friend of Happy’s who is leading an angry mob in hot pursuit.

Let’s return to the back-and-forth:

How much of a workout could it have been if you got caught by that guy?#alternativefacts #futurechamp #NationalParksWeek https://t.co/HHyNtiULMI

— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) April 20, 2017

Larson being slow is fake news. The guy should have been in the NFL chasing quarterbacks and not on golf courses chasing innocent golfers https://t.co/aCnuEBQicu

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

Rodgers responds by making a couple of grisly accusations.

Innocent? You had Gilmore run over in the final round and still couldn't beat him. Also you took out Gilmore's coach Chubbs. #whistleblower https://t.co/Boe4oSxS1H

— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) April 20, 2017

McGavin responds in two parts:

To insinuate I had anything to do with that minor incident is a joke. Though, I do applaud that fan for confronting Happy in a civil manner. https://t.co/Ec7HSLqHTq

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

I’m skeptical of this. McGavin probably put the guy up to it. But there’s been no legal proceeding finding McGavin guilty of a conspiracy, so he’s in the clear. The statute of limitations on ordering someone to run over a competitor in a car has passed, since this movie was filmed in the 1990s. Shooter got away with it, if he did it.

Here’s where McGavin has a point: Chubbs’ tragic death was the result of Gilmore showing him the severed head of an alligator that had previously bitten off Chubbs’ head, sending him backward in fear and through a window to his death. There’s no indication that McGavin was involved in any way in Chubbs’ passing.

McGavin isn’t putting up with this, ahem, allegation.

Also, Gilmore cold bloodily murdered Chubbs at his apartment. It's a shame the Massachusetts police never investigated the matter. https://t.co/Ec7HSLqHTq

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

Rodgers took issue with McGavin’s characterization of the car chase-down.

Minor incident? The two bikers in the woods was a minor incident that you used as an excuse for poor play. #CityOfPortlandHatesYou#Comedy https://t.co/AM5qJsrdn8

— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) April 20, 2017

There were, indeed, a couple of naked bikers getting it on in the woods off the 17th hole while McGavin was trying to execute his short game.

McGavin’s not having it.

Sure Rodgers. You try passing to Jordy Nelson with two bikers having sex on the sidelines and let me know how that goes. #ChicagoHatesYou https://t.co/vHYeaFXHOR

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

I’ve never been to Lambeau Field, but this has probably happened.

It's called focus Shooter. Like the focus Happy showed on the 18th when the tower fell. Like the focus Happy had when he dropped Bob Barker https://t.co/Hnrtp1btwP

— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) April 20, 2017

Happy did knock the hell out of Bob Barker, though he also got some back.

Happy also sunk a putt to ruin McGavin’s life after a camera tower fell between his ball and the hole. It was a remarkable feat of concentration.

McGavin’s being a baby now.

Focus? I think you meant to say Luck. The only thing Happy focused on was disgracing the game of golf. Barker won that fight too. #snackbar https://t.co/VGEpiRNMGJ

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

Memory refresher for @AaronRodgers12 http://pic.twitter.com/7BtBvONXca

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

Happy tried to help Bob up, Bob cheapshotted him. You tried to hit on Virginia, she chose Happy. You went for Grandma. #facts #RIPChubbs https://t.co/p5d7bnJKh1

— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) April 20, 2017

Rodgers makes another strong point here. Happy beat out Shooter for Virginia, the movie’s main love interest, and Shooter responded by trying to have sex with Happy’s grandma. It wasn’t a classy move, and Shooter’s still being inappropriate.

Gilmore delivered an all time cheap shot to Bob off the bat. I preferred Grandma over Virginia. She's more my type #ExpertFrenchKisser #KISS https://t.co/vTTHguP4Js

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

Things got petty from there. Rodgers is dismissing the authenticity of the clip that shows Barker dropping his ass, and McGavin is denying his involvement with the guy who he probably put up to trying to kill Gilmore with a car.

That clip is obliviously doctored. #fakenews U passed up a free meal from an attempted murderer hired by you. U are what u eat for breakfast https://t.co/QDz8CU5x5T

— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) April 20, 2017

The only thing doctored was that meeting. He wanted to meet Gilmore and I told him where they could meet. I had no idea he'd run him over. https://t.co/WOQdl2akNA

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

It’s clap-back season, folks.

Do we have a problem? I've got Larson on call, he wants 2 just have a "meeting" with u. Btw Chubbs is dating Grandma in Heaven. U lose again https://t.co/NY3ptmxPO7

— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) April 20, 2017

Hope this happens:

We do have a problem and I'm fine with meeting both of you tomorrow night on the 9th green at 9. I'd like to iron this out. Cool? #DressNice https://t.co/0DBLXsZ2pN

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

Hope this doesn’t:

Also, don't be saying blasphemous things like Grandma Gilmore is cheating on Shooter. She would never kiss another man after kissing Shooter https://t.co/0DBLXsZ2pN

— Shooter McGavin (@ShooterMcGavin_) April 20, 2017

And a good time was had by all.

I score this a victory for Rodgers, who gets to go on being a millionaire quarterback and a real, living entity. But McGavin put up a feisty showing.