#I hope that vivzie changes her mind. I hope she retcons herself. Because Alastor deserves the development ngl
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thinkingmyfandom · 2 days ago
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I wrote a comment on YouTube that they took down straight away (expected 🙄). So, you guys can have it here.
Okay, everybody shut up! Finally, a place I can talk about it!
I leave my comments everywhere but I feel like nobody is hearing me!
I am an aroace person. And I am TIRED of people saying that shipping ace or aro people is wrong, or inaccurate. I'm so tired of it.
I adore Alastor from Hazbin Hotel. I'm writing my life away with a long fanfic about him. But by my golly goodness, did canon put it's storyline there.
There are some ace people (aroace too) who are sex-negative, want nothing to do with other people in that sense of the word. And that's fine. That's valid. And you know, it sucks, because you can easily write that. And I suppose it already has been written between Alastor and Angel Dust, and Alastor and Vox to some degree. Cool, fine, I like that Alastor has the confidence to have boundaries.
But then they put in Lucifer. And Alastor decided to stay. Like, we see no screen time with Angel Dust and Alastor. If Alastor doesn't like a person, he ditches. Perfect. I love that. It's a complexity to his character I want to see explored.
But he DOESN'T do that with Lucifer. Intentional or not, they wrote someone who Alastor didn't turn away. Alastor wanted to engage with Lucifer, and they seem to have developed some sort of dynamic. It doesn't matter what that dynamic is.
A lot of people see Alastor as an Ace character who self isolated from others. Which, fair. A lot of ace people do that. In so much media, it feels like Ace characters have two choices. Yes or no. Yes, date, but then, are they even ace anymore? They're basically not Ace anymore.
That's what I'm fed up with.
There's so much more to Asexuality than sex or no? Date or no?
In a storytelling sense, Ace characters are easy to write. They don't even need writing. Have them turn down a few people, and end your series with them happy and alone. You're done. And while it is good to see characters getting their asexuality explored in that way... it feels like that is the equivalent of calling asexually black and white again.
Hazbin Hotel dropped Alastor in a pit. They put Vox in there, and clearly Alastor dipped his foot in and left, for fun or confusion or whatever, because Vox is keen on getting the final laugh over him. You know what? That is the most aesthetic, ace-core thing a person could do. Sexual attraction means nothing to me but I'm gonna put my foot in and try it out anyway. Instructions unclear, energy turned high. Yes. That is the best part about Ace Alastor to me.
There's a lot of "they lived happily forever alone" representation. But there isn't enough, "that doesn't work for me. What are my other options?" representations out there.
So Alastor had this "I'm not opposed to you being anywhere near me" moment with Lucifer. And then Vivziepop is like, nope, radioapple isn't a thing, go home. And it's like... are you kidding me? Like, chaotic asexual kicked the beehive and your just... leaving it there? Like... excuse me?
I don't think Alastor is good asexual representation. I don't think there is any good ace representation I've seen. Because the first sign of being ace is usually 'everyone else wants that. I want what they have, but I'm missing the main component' And then all the representation I've seen just accept themselves and that's it. Sexual attraction is different to sexual drive. There are sex-favourable asexuals. And the way they write about Alastor, as a person who doesn't even know what that means, and Rosie watching him have no idea like it's a fun thing she wanta to see develop further? He comes across as someone who never really asked the question. Sex? No. Romance? No. Friends...? No. I don't there is a way to successfully write Hazbin Hotel in which Alastor doesn't get solved. And to solve him, he has to go through the doors and see what's on the other side. Even if he doesn't like it. If you put him through those doors and he decides he doesn't want connection to other people and he isn't just hiding and scared out of his mind, fine. Whatever.
But writing season one and then cutting out any hype for Radiostatic or Radioapple is a low blow, to me. It's not just fan-pandering. One of Alastor's first lines and things after 'redemption isn't real', is him saying no to Angel Dust. You made that a thing for the radio demon, a known quality and trait. And you're not going to explore it?
My brain says that the other thing they could do (because of the rumoured ace song of season 2) is infodump a tragic back story. And just... no? Please no? I get that Alastor isn't the main character, but it doesn't take much to build a little something into the long haul. And it feels like whatever ending you build in is going to have to have Alastor admitting that he went out of his way to engage with the king of hell, and he's not going to admit it willingly. And he's going to hqve to admit somethin was there. And it is going to be fluffy as hell.
And you know what? QPR THE HELL OUT OF IT! You want to be known as the best ace rep writing? Give me the QPR. Discussions of asexuality do not end without bringing up QPRs. No they don't. Every person deserves a happy ending, the love gets to be spread around. Human's need company. It makes me so mad that nobody addresses the ace cupiosexuals in the room, or just... anything. If you want to fanpander, put in a poly pairing. You have an adult tv show with asexuql representations. That's the basics. You want to help kids figure out their wants in life. Describe the spectrum and do it right.
If they half cook this good ace character by having him say 'no, no, no'forever, I will throw him out of my favourites collection. I already did it with Midoriya Izuku, don't fucking play with me. I'm warning you vivzie! I will be very sulky with you.
I live on Ao3. And I have seen, so many people, handle Aroace Alastor perfectly. We have Kink only, we have QPR equivilants, we have sex favourable, we have touch-negative. We have everything you could ever want for ace alastor. And if h*rny people want to look at pretend they can. If people want to try there hands but fail writing ace alastor, whatever sure. There isn't a wrong way to write Alastor.
But if one more person uses people demanding canon ships for a good reason to call the fandom's demands unbearable, I swear. I'll be very sad.
Not to mention, Vivzie says she is saving a special place in her heart for HuskerDust. It's not canon right now, but she isn't cancelling that. The fact that she cancelled radioapple so quickly is what really hurts the most. The least you could do is tease us with a good time and then throw it away. Is that so much to ask?
See, there you go. It wasn't too long was it?
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