#I have to be reminded sometimes that non internet people actually believe being a furry is a dsm5 mental illness
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Wish regular folks on the internet would stop towing the line and continuing to act like furries are some weird, deviant thing nowadays. Iâll be watching Vinny Vinesauce and a hot male furry design will show up in a game and heâll go âoh. Oh god. Oh god chat no. OH GODD WHY. EUGH CHAT STOP. (makes an inhuman noise) WHY ARE HIS TITS SO.â Like, man, relax. His tits are so because itâs hot, get horny like the rest of us, next question.
#delete later#personal#I have to be reminded sometimes that non internet people actually believe being a furry is a dsm5 mental illness#and Iâm not exaggerating a friend was in a psych class on mental illnesses and they used images of mlp ponies and bronies in fursuits#as an example of paraphilia
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Rec This Thing: Interactive Introverts
Interactive Introverts in Amsterdam RAI, evening show on June 2nd
Story: Dan and Phil decided to give the people what they want.
My Story: Okay, fun fact, I bought my ticket on June 1st. When they first announced their tour, my friend Sammy immediately bought tickets for her and her sister and she asked me to come along.
I declined.
After all, I wasnât that big of a fan of Dan and Phil and I decided that people who are actual fans of them could have my possible ticket. Fast forward a couple of weeks and I became fan of them and both shows were sold out. Yup. Bummer. Instant regret. Total sadness. So Sammy promised to tell me everything yada yada since I couldnât go. Then just over 24 hours before the show, Sammy sent me a message that there were five seats left for âŹ55.
Crap.
Okay, I decided to do it. Fuck work the day after. Letâs go. And boy, am I glad I did.
Rating (1 to 10): 9
Why?: QUITE DETAILED SHOW SUMMARY UNDER CUT, SPOILERS!
Alright, yup, Iâm just going to write down everything, including the entire show. Or at least what I remember cause holla, this is done from memory.
Basically, we arrived in Amsterdam after a lot of panic because my bus didnât drive so we were about to miss our train. I ran back home and yelled to mum to grab the car (called Snuit) cause HOLY FUCK MY BUS IS 6 MINUTES LATE AND WITH THE NEXT BUS I WILL MISS MY TRAIN FOR SURE.
But okay, Amsterdam. We got there around four? First we checked out the venue, which wasnât hard to find because their matinee show had just ended, so we just had to follow the stream of fans who were leaving, and then we had dinner at this Japanese place. Then around 18:30 we were back at the venue. Only VIP was allowed to go in already, so we decided to buy merch. The place was packed, so they decided to already open the merch stand. Good thing we got merch (I got a poster) before the show, because other merch was sold during intermission and after the show. Almost no one got merch during intermission, because it was only 20 minutes long, and after the show the line was insane. Probably 2,5+ hours wait time.
We found our seats. We got split up. Sammy and her sister had a great seat (row 9) and I sat on the other side of the theatre in a balcony seat which was fucking great as well. They put on Danâs playlist and that playlist was banging. Sometimes, Danâs Siri interrupted. I mean, they were playing Hard Times when I entered the theatre- great start.Â
And of course they came on stage after Welcome To The Black Parade.
First we had a video kinda introducing danis not on fire and AmazingPhil and then they came in on a moving plaform. Like, their set was so minimalistic but also so great?
After the âHello! Hi!â stuff they talked about being in Amsterdam (âAmsterdamnâ - Phil) and how Phil is feeling a bit sick because he decided to eat tons of stroopwafels (strupwaffles, they called it). Dan called him out, because when you buy a pack of stroopwafels, they are obviously not supposed to be eaten at the same time.
Oh, and those poor foreigners arenât used to shit ton of bikes in Amsterdam (or in the entire Netherlands tbh) so they were talking about how they almost got killed by bikers while crossing the road.Â
They were obviously telling us what to expect and all of that.
Then first, What are we not going to do. They acted out everything they were not going to do. I only remember the erotic roleplay, because they did cop roleplay and it was fucking hilarious (âPlease be gentle with those handcuffs, I have sensitive skinâ - Dan), and the part where they dressed up as their cute pastel versions.
Truth Bombs came next. Phil got asked something among the lines of:Â âWhat Olympic sport would Phil excel in?â
Keeping houseplants alive
I forgot.
SPORTS??? LMFAO!
(If anyoneâs reading this⊠if you happen to know the missing parts cause you were at the same show, hit me up.)
Phil said something about how avoiding bikes in Amsterdam is a sport and then he procceeded to jump over the small hexagon on stage. He chose the houseplants.
Danâs question was: âWhat is in Danâs browser history?âÂ
Fursuits (I think???)
I also forgot.
Something with ShrekÂ
Which was ironic, because Shrek the Musical played at the RAI. I donât remember what Dan chose.
Then, âHow will they die?âÂ
Demonetization
They fall off stage in a few minutes
I forgotâŠ.
Honestly, they kept talking about demonetization during the entire show. Every time they said something too raunchy, theyâd say something like âWeâre getting demonetized.â
I think the Simulator came next? Anyway Phil started out with ordering a unicorn frappuchino and he ended up being killed by Satan cause he tried make a deal with him to restore his twitter account after accidentally posting a sexy photo of himself in his pants. We cheered for Satan, and they kept reminding us of that during the entire show.Â
Dan was outside for once and got approached by a furry, did body shots of an otter, and ended up dying in an underground furry rave after he decided to use the ladiesâ restroom.
After that, Phil synced us all as Linda, so hooray, we were all Linda. Now as Linda, we could continue to the magic trick and the audience participation. What is hidden in the mysterious box that Dan hid under his bed? Our three answers were: cereal, a panda, a fursuit.Â
I still donât know how they did this trick. The box was unopened on stage all the time. Sammy and I first came up with this special electronic paper, but then we realised Phil gave it to audience members to rip it up and fight about it.
I only remember three questions asked during the Survey. There was apart about their favourite content and Dan was very happy to present it as a pie chart. Also âDo you think you know Dan and Phil?â
Yes
No
Who is Dan and Phil?
After joking about how all the parents answered the last answer, they noticed a small percent still answered no, and they talked about authenticity on YouTube and sure, they put themselves out there because they want to entertain people, but that they are still genuinely themselves and that theyâre not faking it. But if you wanted to see the non-entertaining version of them, youâd be bored. (âOn my sofa, with an overheated laptop on my crotch and a bag of crisps under my chin and me trying to eat them with my tongue cause Iâm lazyâ - Dan).
Then, of course the âDan or Phil?â question and they presented the wheel and they made the most dramatic act one exit Iâve ever seen, and I am a Broadway fan.
During intermission, the two women next to me were talking about merch and I told them where to find it. Then I exited the theatre. Sammyâs sister bought Pringles and I bought M&Ms and the three of us were kinda shocked to see the queue for the merch stand. Those poor fuckers.
We went back to the theatre and I talked about the merch again, because I happened to know the whole merch stand and its prices by heart after looking at it for 45 minutes (hoodie âŹ40, sweater âŹ30, wristband âŹ5, poster âŹ10, Dan and Phil plushies âŹ25, denim jacket âŹ65, two t-shirts âŹ20 and âŹ25, keycord or whatever it is called âŹ10, cap âŹ15, woops I still know it).
Back to the show! Phil was on the wheel and Dan used a slingshot, a bow and arrow, and a bazooka. And afterwards Phil was showing off his ass while taking off that white body suit. He said he was dizzy and Dan dared him to jump over the hexagon again, but Phil refused.
Okay anyway the next thing I remember is the wholesome Daniel and X-Rated Lester part (âIâm already feeling naughtyâ - Phil). In the beginning they had this whole talk about authenticity and how they are still humans bla which was really cool. Since I am a recent fan, I completely missed the actual wholesome Daniel craze, but yeah, they talked about how they are actual people and sometimes, they donât meet certain expectations of fans.
Also, at one point in the show, Dan was talking about God and he yelled âSpite me, daddy!â and I think it was around this moment. The entire crowd yelled.
Alright Dan had to sweet talk disturbing fan fiction, Hello Internet, and another thing uuuuhm. I donât remember. Anyway, he kept saying âOh for Godâs sake!â, especially at the Hello Internet one.
Phil had to bad mouth cute animals, endless kittens (he failed), and ugh I have also forgotten his last one. The person who sent in cute animals sat in front of me and it was just absolutely amazing to see how happy she was to see her submission on screen.
Then the Dan vs. Phil friendship game. There was a lot of stuff, but I remember some. I canât believe they shocked each other, but maybe that is because Iâd read the Milgram Experminent earlier that week.
First, psychic connection. They both had to name the same number between 1 to 20 and they failed.Â
Then a dilemma. Dan got the dilemma: âGuest star in Infinity War 4 or Phil gets thrown in a pool of cheese?â
Phil had to choose between: âA billion dollars or Dan will never be able to see dogs again?â According to Phil, heâd buy two big airplanes and then merge them together for an ever bigger airplane.
Then the Dan or Phil or Rat. They both got it right. Phil just got a photo of something white, but he guessed that it was his own pale skin and Dan got some hairs and he guessed that it was a rat.
Trivia. Dan needed to name 3 pre-2008 Phil videos and succeeded. Dan thanked Phil for uploading his newest video about his his old deleted stuff. Phil needed to recall the kind of cake that Colin ruined and failed.
There was probably more to Dan vs. Phil but I am blanking. Phil got the big shock (âIâm Phil trash no. 1!âł - Dan).
Then the intimate moment. Or personal. Phil called it intimate and Dan just went âPERSONAL? DONâT CALL IT INTIMATE, ITâS PERSONALâ and then proceeded to point out that Phil has a degree in English language.
It was just so down to earth. There were three questions, and I remember two. The first person asked for an appropriate name for their zoo animal YouTube channel. I forgot the name they recommended, but they said it was great that this person had a clear theme.
I remember one person saying that she wants to be a singer but her parents want her to go into medicine and well first they were like âhey singing doctor!â. But they talked about how passion is important and how they both didnât do what was expected and how they are much happier now (âLawyer Dan is as awful as a singing doctor!â - Dan) but I unfortunately forgot the other two questions. It was just a really nice moment where both Dan and Phil just sat down to have a chat. Oh and they also talked about Philâs apparent awful handwriting.
Then the power came back on and I think that is when the Awards happened? Glitter jackets af and a self-made statue (âTwo naked men in bondage really represents Dan and Philâ - Phil, or something like that.)
The first category was: Best dressed pet as Dan and Phil.
A lizard wearing a flower crown while watching the video of Black Parade won.
A cat wearing Danâs merch.
I donât even know but it looked like Dan was riding Phil so that was that. I suppose it was a dog.
And then Most inaccurate expectation of the show
I fucking forgot first place.
Two hour long Hamilton reenaction with Chris Evans.
Them giving birth on stage.
Also the most annoyed parent was just incredibly funny. I remember the winners but hey I donât feel comfortable just sharing their names cause⊠privacy. I know the winner sat on the second row and all kids were pointing at her and I guess Dan and Phil saw her and said: âThis was probably the worst day of your life, thank you for sharing it with us!â âYou probably thought you were seeing Shrek the Musical.â
And then back to the scripted part, aka the Big Finale. A dog video that has nothing to do with the show, PHILâS DISS TRACK, Dan at the piano, and them singing a duet. This ainât Broadway, but it was still kinda nice and just sweet.
And well, that is it. They runned around on stage, waving at everyone, saying goodbye. Then they stepped on their moving platform and they disappeared.
Some random things:
Phil kept calling a part of the set a âflapâ which annoyed Dan.
Dan⊠just⊠couldnât⊠stop⊠dabbingâŠ
They hinted at a new gaming video that involves a lot of Danâs screaming - coming next week.
So many pride flags in the crowd.
Phil and Dan sounds wrong.
There was one moment where a picture of Danâs had pasted on a horse from My Horse Prince appeared with a text bulb saying âRide me, senpaiâ but I donât remember when that happened. I think before the Simulator?
Interactive Introverts kind of reminded me of Hedwig and the Angry Inch. Thereâs clearly a format and a script, but thanks to audience participation, no shows are the same.
But in all seriousness, as my friend Rowan @rothetree pointed out, the entire message of this show was about how Dan and Phil are just human. As Ro put it: âOn a serious note, thereâs a whole underlying theme to this show, which was them basically going âHey, weâre real people, stop objectifying us"â. This felt so in line with what the three of us were talking about. Me, Sammy and Sammyâs sister had to endure a two hour train ride and we talked a lot about fandomâs perception on real life people they stan and how they sometimes reduce those people to the image they have in their minds.
Cause we were talking about stuff like real life shipping, and about how celebrities are being seen, and how the moment they do something the fans donât like, you get all those moments of âX is not real anymore!â
Newsflash asshole, they are people with feelings, and just because you donât want to see those feelings, doesnât mean they donât have them. For example, Sammy was talking about how one K-POP star basically got stalked at an airport and when he clearly showed his dislike of it, people were all âOH MY GOD HE DOESNâT LIKE HIS FANS HE IS SO RUDE HEâS NOT WHO WE THOUGHT HE WASâ and I gave the example of people saying Darren is âno longer himselfâ after he called out the people who are seriously threatening his fiancĂ©e and all that stuff.
Before the show started, we overheard two other fans talking about how they should come out bla bla bla, and just⊠no? That is so personal and we are not entitled to that at all?Â
To quote Ghostly, they are not our dolls. We canât dress them up in whatever way we want.
I recently read I Was Born For This by Alice Oseman, which follows a band from the fansâ POV and through the bandâs POV and how sometimes those things clash, and I feel like with Interactive Introverts, Dan and Phil wanted to show people who they are to avoid a clash like that. Thatâs why they kept talking about how they value authenticity, while they are aware of the fact that they are also putting on a show. Or how, when people have certain images of them, how unrealistic those images can be and that they cannot live up to the expectations, and therefore it is important for fans to realise that. The tagline is:Â âGiving the people what they want!â and they did that without having to change for the fansâ sake.
As Rowan (rothetree, not Rowan from the book I Was Born For This) said: "we donât own their image or expect too much from them. Something about their interactions with us is changing in a really good way."
Because that exactly.
Since I am a recent fan and I got my ticket one day before the show, I wasnât aware of the questions, but in the âDo you think you know Dan or Phil?â (as they said: or do you think weâre people putting up a whole show) I wouldâve answered a solid ânoâ, because I always think itâs dangerous to say that you know a celebrity, but after this show, Iâd vote âyesâ, because the way they acted on stage and the way they conveyed their message of âyes, weâre putting on a show right now because we want to entertain you guys, but we still care about authenticityâ was well done.
And that is what made this show so great and enjoyable. Yes, it was a show and there were scripted parts, but it was still very genuine.
Recommend?: Yes, please, just like TATINOF, put it online for sale!
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[MF] I'm an old man.
Iâm an old man.
Okay, Iâm not that old. Iâm only seventy-five. Iâm being dramatic. They say that the seventies are the new fifties. But, Iâm entitled to being a little grumpy at my age. Iâve earned it.
When I was younger, birthdays earned you new privileges, like buying tobacco (albeit I hate the smell and only occasionally smoke a cigar, which even then I still find it mildly revolting), getting married, joining the military, voting, alcohol, and cheaper car insurance.
But now the doctors inform me that, based on my age and my insurance provider, Iâve earned the privilege of undergoing another test for some disease thatâs sure to end my life miserably. Every year I go in for my physical, and every year the doctor runs a complete battery; cholesterol, blood sugar, blood pressure, hearing, prostate, bone density, and on and on.
I see a dermatologist annually owing to my fair complexion; a trait I inherited from my mother who had strawberry blonde hair and a spattering of freckles that ran up and down her cheeks. And every three years I have to drink that God-awful Crystal Light and apple juice concoction, shit my brains out for two days, and then get little cameras inserted up my ass and down my throat. If it wasnât for the drugs, Iâm not sure Iâd enjoy it much.
Or would I? When you get old, sometimes you wonder about these things. Iâm not gay (and I donât have a problem with it, mind you), but these thoughts run through my head on occasion as I get older.
What if I actually enjoyed it?
Maybe I would have when I was younger and a bit more open to those kinds of things. Apparently, the prostate, that little walnut-sized gland near your bladder, is also called the âmale G-spot.â
All I know is that on occasion, when the doctor sticks his fingers up my rectum, I get a little chubby. Itâs kind of embarrassing, but if it werenât for the sterile formality of it all, maybe Iâd relax enough to enjoy it.
You see, I never considered these things before.
Just like every time I get some new test. It gnaws away at my mindâs ability to ignore the fact that my time on this earth is coming to an end, something my younger self never once considered as a real possibility. Where death was something that happened to other people, each phone call from my specialist inches me closer to the realization that Iâm not a spring-chicken anymore, and Iâm one rotten biopsy away from the grave.
So, when the doctor says âyouâre as healthy a twenty-year-old,â I always respond (still a little slick between the cheeks), âthatâs just great, Doc.â
But who am I fooling?
They say that the seventies are the new fifties, but on Tinder I am old. Iâm old, and Iâm creepy. At least, thatâs what all the young girls tell me.
Swipe right, swipe left? I donât know how we matched, because I can barely text my wife without transferring my life savings to an African prince. I joke, because they all end up in my spam folder anyway, along with my daughterâs e-mails ⊠why canât you just call me on the phone like a normal human being, or God-forbid, visit once in a while? I know you have a family of your own and live a couple thousand miles away, but would it hurt to bring them down to get to know their Papa before he chokes?
Online dating is as foreign to me as Ching Chang Chong. Or is that too pejorative of an idiom these days? One thing Iâve also realized is that the older I get, the more bigoted and wrong about the world I am, at least thatâs what everyone keeps telling me.
But let me be clear, Chief, it wasnât me who changed; it was the world.
When I was a kid, these things didnât have the same context. People werenât so sensitive. I grew up in New England, for fuckâs sake. If you donât recall, we fought to end slavery during the Civil War. We championed equal rights, and I even marched to end segregation, and now Iâm a bigot? Please, spare me.
I donât want to get political, but thereâs a reason Trump won. I donât care much for the man, with his gold-plated shit palace and orange skin, but he appreciates what being American used to mean. In a lot of ways, those were the gold-old-days. Those were the days before Twitter, Facebook, and Insta-whatever. Things were simpler: you sent a letter in the mail and then you waited. And when you waited you learned patience. Kids donât have patience these days. They want everything now, now, now.
The world has changed, and maybe Iâve stayed the same.
A few years ago, we decided we were going to audit an ethics class at a local community college. Being that we are retired and didnât have to work for food, we thought it would keep us engaged with the world that seemed to be changing daily. At any rate, the professor, some snotty, high-falutinâ, thirty-something who couldnât commit to a PhD, decided he was going to lecture me about objective moral values.
Objective moral values? Whatâs so objective about values these days when a man can decide to be a woman, and a woman can decide to be a Furry? A Furry. One interesting thing I learned in class: an employee filed an equal opportunity complaint because she not only believed she was a cat, but that she was being discriminated against because there werenât any litter boxes for her to shit in.
Can you believe that?
Did the world go crazy, or am I going crazy?
One of the advantages of age is that it provides some perspective. A disadvantage is that facts about the world that one picks up in one era may not apply in a subsequent one. Itâs not that the facts werenât facts, but that those facts were time sensitive. What used to be true is not true now. But that doesnât mean it wasnât true.
Iâm time sensitive these days. Iâm sensitive to the fact that Iâm not getting any younger.
But eventually, you have to move on. You have to give new things a try. You have to embraceâand I hate to sound so callous, but at seventy, you appreciate the time you had and you appreciate the time you have leftâchange. It is hard to move on, but, sometimes, the world changes and you just have to hang on for the ride.
So, when Judith messaged me (not sure if it was through Our Time, Zoosk, Elite or Silver Singles, or whatever dating app I ended up contributing practically my entire 401k towards), it was a bit unexpected. I have to admit, it was hard. It was hard to carry on a conversation through my keyboard to some stranger in the internet ether. Hell, for all I knew, she was some Russian hacker trying to steal my e-mails.
Iâm kidding.
We decided weâd meet at a local cafĂ©. Weâd have some coffee, maybe some breakfast, and weâd simply talk. That sounded great, honestly.
Because another thing about growing old is that everyone you know is constantly dying. When youâre twenty, itâs one wedding after another. When youâre seventy, itâs one funeral after another. Your address book gets smaller and smaller over time, and conversations become few and far between. You find yourself talking a bit too much to that clerk at the grocery store, or the telemarketer whoâs trying to sell you a timeshare.
I give my daughter a hard time, but she has a career, a husband, and children, and I feel a bit guilty expecting anything from her beyond a call on Thanksgiving or Christmas. Donât get me wrong, sheâs a wonderful daughter. Sheâs always trying to get me to move back to Maine, but Iâve grown accustomed to the Southern climate. They keep going on and on about climate change and saying Florida will be sucked into the ocean one day, but that wonât happen until long after Iâm dead and gone. I keep telling her not to worry about me, and while she does, she knows Iâm too stubborn to leave. But, daughters have a way of softening even the most hardened assholes like myself.
I showed up at the Waffle House a bit earlier than we agreed. Sitting at the booth I was reminded about how nervous I was when I was a kid.
But seventy is the new fifty, right? One thing I appreciate about technology is that it opens doors (both figuratively and non-figuratively). When I was a kid, you had to muster up the guts to approach a girl at the bar, an ice cream parlor, a diner, or the library. You had to introduce yourself while her and her friends pretended not to notice, but which made you even more nervous and uncomfortable. You had to invest an inordinate amount of time and resources into the act of dating that, probably, would be a waste of time in the end. It was a shot in the dark. Youâd discover something about her personality, her values, her parents, her outlook, three or four dates into it, and youâd be back at square one.
Luck. Thatâs what it took to find the right one.
The great thing about online dating is you can weed out all those people you know arenât cut out for you, that donât share your worldview. It opens up the pool of dating I didnât have when I was a kid. Itâs simple math; the wider your net, the more chance you have of making the catch.
Sitting there I realized I still had my wedding ring on. I hadnât taken it off for nearly fifty years.
In the bathroom, with a great deal of soap, I worked the ring backwards and forwards. The once smooth band was now sharp and cut into my finger that had grown a size (or two) larger than it was when I had first gotten married. The ring refused to budge over my knuckle. No matter how much I yanked, the damn thing wouldnât come off. And the harder I pulled, the more I smiled and the more those crowâs feet, winkles, and loose skin scrunched up into an adolescent grin ear-to-ear as I realized I hadnât taken it for nearly fifty years.
Judith ordered black coffee, two eggs sunny-side up, turkey bacon, and wheat toast. From her purse, she pulled out a shaker of Morton Salt Substitute, and thatâs when I saw that she hadnât taken her ring off either.
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