#I guess I feel strongly about this because the Unova games were like...

[neon-moon-beam]

Everyone knows the anime could not animate Submas at all, but look at Emmet specifically.

His chin is as long as his hair. Exactly.

I don’t know much about animation, but looking at it, it’s almost like they drew the shape for his hair, made it wide, and then just colored in the part that was supposed to be his face differently and added his nose and I guess where his lips are supposed to be. Except his chin is huge, like they knew where his face was supposed to line up in regards to his hair but had all this extra...face, and just left it.

And then of course Ingo’s face is wrong too in a different way, the foreshortening on his arm looks a bit off, and something about his hand too...

I don’t know what went wrong, but it went wrong.

bl*nkshippers dni--I will block you

[crystalelemental]

“books-are-my-life-stuff: I kind of feel like with how Unova was badly received, Pokemon kinda toned down the story aspects in later generations. Later gens don't seem to have as ambitious story as Unova did. Original Sun & Moon was pretty close, especially with Lusamine being the villain and she strongly reminded me of Ghetsis, but USUM kinda ruined her character, at least to me. It feels like GF backed off and tried not to make her too evil, remembering how Unova was received back then.“

I definitely think they backpedaled a bit, but the odd thing is that...Gen 6 had a ton of stop points for your FOUR RIVALS to interrupt progress, which is the exact opposite thing we’d need to do.  SuMo did really well with story, but really only in regards to the Aether family; little else mattered in Gen 7.  And I think USUM backed out because...well, you had a story of a kid pushing back on an abusive parent.  I imagine there were complaints about the game teaching kids to “talk back” to their parents and encouraging them to be rebellious, and they toned that down.

“And yeah, it's funny when GF tried to integrate gameplay aspects into Hop's character arc (him changing his entire team except his starter after his loss) and people just...ignored that. People only remembered Hau as the malasada boy and Hop as the 'type advantage' annoying boy, disregarding their personality and characters. They only take one aspect of them and ran with it. It's pretty clear they don't pay attention.”

A lot of things are just memetic reductions.  Like, the characters are often reduced to just a bullet point characteristic, and never given too much to flesh out.  I think it’s why you have situations of Leon being considered just “champion time man.”

“Me too. I guess that's why I've been actively disengaging with communities and enjoyed the game only with a few people. I love Kanto, but I know genwunners are terrible, and I don't want them to sour my opinion on Kanto as a whole, I still want to like Red and Blue. I have my fair share of nostalgia too, but it doesn't make me blind to the greatness that later games have.  It's a shame that those kinds of people only claim Gen 1 is the best because they don't even bother to read the story and appreciate the improvements made in later generations. And the revelation you made when looking at Masters Reddit just confirmed it.”

It’s just disheartening.  Because like...I get being really invested in the original games, and having intense nostalgia for them.  I really do.  There is something great in them, it’s why the series got such a following.  But I feel like there’s such a large chunk of people still playing who really don’t...engage with the games.  Like, they play them, but it’s trucking through, hoping for this sense of challenge or something that the games rarely if ever had, and being disappointed when it’s not that, and just complain about everything rather than finding things that work and things that don’t.  There are legitimate problems with the modern generations.  But oh man, realizing that some of these complaints that fell off weren’t just a matter of misinterpretation, but a matter of not even reading the story?  It’s just wild.