#I feel like this is such a slippery slope *especially* with the shark like TB stans circling my at the moment

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Your 'stop blaming the victim' is referring to alicent and her children only or also rhaenyra?

I say it mostly referring to Alicent and her children, especially when it comes to the war, but there are instances in which Rhaenyra is a victim as well, and of course it still applies.

while I don't love Rhaenyra, I don't hate her either, and I can acknowledge that she is a complex character.

so while there are a lot of situations where she created the problem for herself, there are situations where she was victimized as well. She was Daemon and Viserys's victim.

Daemon groomed her, used her for his own gain, manipulated her, and abused her. she was a victim all of those times. I think Daemon doomed her in a lot of ways, and definitely set her on a path for failure after their marriage.

She was Viserys's victim cause he failed her as her father but also as her king and predecessor. he did not prepare her for the throne, didn't teach her how to be queen, didn't protect her as an heir. he let her do what she wanted, didn't teach her about the consequences of her actions nor how important it was to prioritize her image over her pleasure, etc. He doomed her as well.

so while I think Alicent and her kids where a lot more victimized, that doesn't erase the fact that Rhaenyra was a victim of her circumstances and the men in her life too.

what I do think is that people often forget and/or straight up ignore and mock Alicent and her kids being victims, and especially the fact they were victimized by Rhaenyra and Viserys. all the while, people hinge a lot of their arguments defending Rhaenyra on her victimhood, blowing certain moments out of the water, making up moments of victimhood, or ignoring that fact she has a long trail if victims behind her.

the fandom situation with these two when it comes to their victimhood is wildly different, which is why I tend to emphasize Alicent's more than I do Rhaenyra's.