#I do think it was the catalyst for their reconciliation in the AU
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yrrtyrrtwhenihrrthrrt · 8 days ago
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I do find it funny silly that Vi and Jinx inherited their emotional intelligence (or rather significant lack thereof) from Dad No. 2, because no regular sane person would be that touched by a letter that was basically "sorry I kinda crashed out a bit back there pookie, I thought you deserved it. Btw remember the promise we made our dead friend? Anyway. XOXO Vander" LIKE?????
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fulcrums501st · 2 months ago
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Yes! I always thought the betrayal had more to with Vander lashing out as a result of the bloodshed their revolution led them to in the bridge. I definitely it was spur of the moment thing. He immediately regrets what he did to Silco and renounces violence after what he did and after his revolution orphaned his friend’s kids.
Then after the bridge is when he realizes that the bloodshed needed for the movement wasn’t worth it to him. So he tried to make his dream of a hopeful Zaun to the best of his ability while realizing he would never be willing to go to extreme ends needed for the movement. So he tries to create as safe and community oriented an undercity he can in the while still upholding the status quo. Vander’s regret of his violent past has made him willing to compromise if it will create a safer future. He still wants to create that hopeful future of Zaun, a place that’s safe for kids, but he refuses to go to extreme lengths to get to an independent and free Nation of Zaun that he once dreamed about.
Meanwhile, Silco has his whole drowning rebirth moment that completely radicalized him into his “any means justify the ends” mentality. He thinks the only way to get that idealistic version of the undercity is ONLY if Zaun is independent, and so he is willing to do anything to get independence. But he still understands Vander’s convictions, which is why he says in s1 ep3 that he still respects him and had already forgiven him. It was once Vander made a deal with their oppressors that Silco felt like a Vander had truly betrayed all they stood for, cuz that was when from Silco’s perspective he abandoned the principles of the movement they’d started together.
I love how the AU confirms that BOTH of their ideals were needed to create the best version of Zaun. You need some combination to both the lessons they respectively learned on the bridge to get that happy ending. You needed the dedication to the movement, but also needed to keep in mind the loss of life and never lose sight of the people you are fighting for. You can’t sacrifice who you are to get back at topside. The movement can’t become more about getting revenge on Piltover than it is about uplifting Zaun. You needed both the eye and heart of Zaun. You need both Silco and Vander.
I feel like most of the Silco/Vander stuff from s2 still works and doesn’t ruin s1, it’s just people (and it does lol feel like the writers also) misremember s1 and thus are oversimplifying Vander and Silco’s conflict (fans especially after seeing the letter and AU).
I think the letter would have led to the start of a reconciliation ONLY IF Silco had found it BEFORE Vander made a deal with enforcers. Cuz that’s when he lost respect for the man. It would have taken a lot more reflection and time after the letter for them to have properly reconciled the way we see them in the AU. But the letter could have been a catalyst for starting that process, not the magical solution that automatically fixed everything (the way some people be interpreting the letter).
I think maybe s2 could have done a better job of reminding the audience of these nuances, cuz ppl def misremembered s1 once these new Vander and Silco bits came up in s2. And yeah the whole stuff they chose to focus on with the Warwick arc doesn’t help.
Dang this was a longer ramble than I intended it to be.
being an OG zaundads shipper is such a conflicting time right now. we've gone mainstream, but at what cost? the absolutely brutal silco & vander character assassinations of S2? that are how newbies are getting into the ship? genuinely tragic.
zaundads fandom needs you 👇to resist S2 propaganda
make S1 zaundads great again
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hmslusitania · 4 years ago
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Fic idea: After the lawsuit Buck is persona non grata at the firehouse. Chim and Hen have to be kind to Buck in secret while Bobby, Eddie, and the rest of the firehouse make his life miserable. When tasked with some of the nastiest and hardest chores, Buck never complains. While moving a really heavy piece of machinery something slips as Buck takes a hard hit to his side. Blood thinners make the bruise worse. He curls up in the bunks, where Eddie finds him in dire straits. Cue the ANGST!
Prompt: Post lawsuit Buck is feeling super isolated and sad. When the blood thinners have a side effect leaving him with a painful itchy rash on his back, he does his best to hide it. One day Bobby piles on even more chores than usual, and one of the cleaning chemicals spills and makes contact with his back rash. Buck is in agony but says nothing. When it becomes too much Buck finally goes to Eddie for help. Eddie and co are horrified and feel super guilty, especially Bobby. Buddie endgame.
Prompt: post-lawsuit Buck is shunned by everyone and then some idiot firefighter decides Buck has to be punished and messes with his equipment. The team is so busy holding a grudge Buck almost dies on a call he's allowed on. Athena finds out and goes on the warpath. She finds the culprit and goes full enraged Momma bear on him before going ballistic at the team, ripping them a whole new one for endangering Buck. Team wants Buck back but they are crushed by how he's now terrified of them. Buddie
Omg I recently read your fic and I think you would be perfect to run with this idea I had about Buck becoming homeless after the lawsuit and dealing with the team being angry and distant with him, especially Eddie. When his homelessness is found out Buck ends up living with Eddie and Chris and has a hard time dealing with the team being sorry and begging for his forgiveness, especially Bobby who is sick with guilt for being the catalyst to Buck losing his stability. Reconciliation is painful
Prompt: due to medical bills and lawyers fees and Bobby cutting his hours clearly as punishment and everyone treating him like an outcast Buck finds himself evicted from his place and living out of his car. How the team finds out is up to you, but Eddie doesn’t hesitate to bring Buck home with him. The team is super guilty, especially Bobby and Buck is not going to just forgive and forget. Lots of crying please! Buddie endgame 
OKAY SO - To the five of you.
I received your prompts. They were all sent in good faith. I am, however, an inherently ornery, obstinate, and occasionally straight up belligerent person against my own best intentions.
I will 1,000% not be offended if you therefore take your prompts to someone else considering what I have done with them.
The thing is, I simply, personally, do not Vibe with the reading of the post-lawsuit era that says people treated Buck unfairly. I just. don’t. And there’s no way any of you could’ve known that before sending these to me. I will say, elements of all of your prompts have ended up in the finished product.
Which, for reasons that escape me, became a Groundhog Day AU set during Monsters. I don’t know why it became that. I really, really don’t.
There was lots of crying involved, last anon! Most of it was from me. (that’s not true; Buck also cries a fair amount)
All this said: if you do, somehow, by improbable chance, actually enjoy the fic, please feel free to let me know off anon and I can make it a gift at you on the AO3.
So, uh, behold, I guess, the post-lawsuit clusterfic:
Don’t Take the Money
And I’m sorry that I’m like this.
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affectionatespy626 · 7 years ago
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Title: Day of the Primrose
Type: AU Fan-Fic
Origin: Mystic Messenger
Genre: Unlisted
Words: 1638 (?)
Prompt: Marriage | Domesticity
Day 4 Entry for @saeranchoiweek
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‘See? This is our family! This is you right here next to Saeyoung-oppa on your left and this is Macy and Macy’s mama next to you on your right! Hehe~ We are one big family!’
These mere words kept lingering inside his head like a song on a continuous loop, words of a child that became inexplicably powerful, leaving a great impact in his heart and his very being. He had long thought that having a happy family will only be nothing but an impossible dream, yet ever since he met her, his life continued to change, renewed.
As he laid down upon his bed, ready to surrender himself to the dawn of sleepiness, his mind continued to spread out thoughts of reminiscence, recalling memories that transpired less than three long years ago. A story he held so dear inside his heart, and it was rolling out like a movie clip as his consciousness slowly drifted to dreamland.
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“Saeran, are you happy?” A familiar voice addresses his name so dearly and lovingly as her arms ring around him from behind. It was an image of him and the lady who managed to bring light back into his painfully dimmed life, as they stood in the middle of a moonlit  blessed flower garden, their silhouettes fusing into one beneath the silver moonlight.
“I think I am….” The lad responses quietly, almost inaudible like a whisper towards the wind. He turns around to face his lover, the woman he wishes to promise the rest of his life with, but unwanted uncertainties constantly ripple within his heart, making him sway in fear. “But I am scared…. I am terrified that this ends up as nothing but a part of my hopeful dream…. Or a figment of my deepest desires….” His arms embraced her desperately, as if trying to convince himself that he wasn’t just dreaming. That she was there holding him tightly as he held her just the same. “I…. I don’t even think I deserve such blessing…. Can I really…… Am I really allowed to live in this happiness we’re having?”
“Oh Saeran.” A sweet chuckle escaped the woman’s lips, muffled as she buried her head upon his chest, basking in the warmth his generous heart was emanating. “You more than deserve to be happy. You deserve to be loved as you would love, to be cared for as you would care, to be adored as you would adore, and to have a happy home and a happy family that you would be able to call your own.” Raising her head to meet his gaze that dell upon her, she soon stretched on tip toes to lay a kiss on his lips, her love evident as his adoration for this lady who helped him build a happy home.
Still, he couldn’t have expected how such a strong lady would come into his life, change him into a better version of himself, and grace him with a happy home and a happy family like she had earnestly promised. She was the reason of his reconciliation with his brother with her endless support and encouragement, allowing him to embrace his brother slowly once again. And she was also the reason that they could be together once again just like way back when. But aside from being the catalyst of his reunion with his dearest brother and only loving family, she also brought a new reason inside of him to protect the ones he hold and cherishes ever so dearly no matter the cost.
One other thing he had never expected was to share the struggles and all the pain she had been desperately trying to overcome all alone and by herself.  From the moment she set foot into his trickery and his torment, up to the moment he was moved and inspired by her resilience and perseverance, and the very reason why he could feel the kind of warmth he had never felt ever since the day he’d been born into the world. He’d never expected the woman he led into his trap was a desperate mother trying to raise a child all on her own, fighting the odds and struggles in her life alone just so she could provide a good life and future to her beloved child. Recalling how broken she appeared being separated from her child caused prickles of pain inside his heart, formerly mistaking it as jealousy and envy, but soon realizing as sympathy, admiration and earnest wish to help her escape the hell hole he has brought upon her. Seeing how tender, kind, thoughtful and understanding she was of him despite his transgressions, allowed him to build renewed faith that she may be able to embrace him too, despite all the faults, wounds and scars his very being had. That she would be able to embrace him truly no matter what or who he was. He could only wish he’d met her before hell befell him. And perhaps…. She was the other missing piece from his life.
“Saeran? What are you thinking?” Being pulled back from his deep train of thoughts by the concern laced in his beloved’s voice, he sighs with a wry smile, then pressing a kiss on her forehead.
“I was reminded how I truly began to fall in love with you.” He breathed with a smile, brushing his finger on her cheek, his gaze lovingly gazing ath her own honey colored ones. “At first, I merely thought it was nothing but fleeting infatuation, but you proved me wrong. How you remained ever strong and hopeful despite, kind and caring, tender and understanding despite all the torments you went through under my wing, you never gave up on both saving the real me and returning to your precious child. The length of admiration and adoration I have for you knows no bounds, my muse. I won’t even dare question how I deserve your love, but I can promise you this: I will love your child as much as I love you. Blood alone does not define a family, and I will treat your child like my very own and be her family. If… you would allow me….”
Honey colored eyes sprang wide in utter surprise, laced with both joy and hope for such an unexpected declaration coming form this meek and earnest man she sees before her own eyes. Tears began to blur her vision, her heart singing merry little songs of how grateful she is of this man she loved so much. She had feared another set of rejection once he would find out about her child, but this endearing man she’s holding in her arms, openly declared he would love the child like his very own despite not being of his own flesh and blood. No words eased out of her lips but mere sobs and tears that flowed freely from her eyes.
“I’m not sure…. If I am fit to be a father…. The way I am now… but I will strive to become someone you and the child deserve…” Caressing her head as she continued to sob against his chest, his embrace around her only grew more protective and loving. “I hope you would continue to stand by my side and watch me grow to become a good enough parent to your daughter, my love.” Lifting her face gently with both his palms, allowing them to meet face to face, a smile so hopeful painted on his face. “This is my promise of happiness to you. I love you.”
“And I love you too, Saeran.” Whilst beneath the moonlit starry sky, they shared a kiss to seal this solemn vow they made with love, their hearts beating as one.
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“Hmm…” Fluttering his eyes open, the lad finally wakened from his dream, a memory he shall forever hold in his heart. Tears were threatening to break free from his eyes, but he had one particular reason not to and instead rose onto his feet and got dressed. His heart filled with all the love for her, he made his way to where she was now resting. It was still the birth of dawn when he stood before her, a basket of primrose he wishes to offer her. Kneeling before that bore her name, he places the basket of primrose in place as he solemnly made a prayer and a promise within his heart.
“My love, I am here today to celebrate our day of the primrose. The day I promised to love you and make you happy and you devoting your life to me and our family. Thank you for providing me a home and a family that I could truly call my own. You are the reason why I am here now, living as I am, a better person, a renewed man. There is no day that I never miss you, but I also do not wish to make you worry… now that you’re living with the angels…. Though please always know…. That you are my eternal love, first and last, and if time comes….. Let’s finally have our wedding in the clouds….”
Feeling the wind brush against his cheek, he knew she heard his promise, felt his love. And as he knelt there unmoving with his eyes closed, he could feel her familiar warmth embracing his body. Not being able to see or hold her anymore left a great deal of pain for him. But even though her earthly body was no longer present, with his eyes closed, he could still feel her spirit and and her love enveloping his being. That she wasn’t truly gone, for she will always be in his heart forevermore.
“Until we meet again, my love, I will cherish and protect this family and the home we built together with the ones we love.”
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tinkdw · 8 years ago
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So like I really like your account but I have a question. How do you think supernatural is gonna end. I would like your hear your theorys and I know there's probably not a lot of stuff to go on to guess how it might possibly end but how would you want it to end.
Hi!
Endgame Wild Speculation and Headcanons? You’re on ;)
- They won’t live in the bunker, but an overground MoL place that is more like a home, not a white picket fence place but something of a reconciliation of the two worlds, between Bobby’s house and the Bunker. I’m thinking modern, full of MoL kit and their own Hunter stuff. It’s what makes sense to me but if they stay in the bunker that’s fine too as long as they appropriate it properly, decorate and add more personal touches.
- TFW will also be the leaders / teachers of the new MoL / Hunter community. Cas is the strategist, Sam is the scholar, Dean is the practical teacher. So as such won’t be going out on hunts all the time as before, they will of course but not daily, plus they will have a community of people around them, a true found family.
- Jack was the catalyst to TFW defeating Lucifer. Lucifer is killed and ‘reborn’ as the ‘good’ leader of Hell or something, keeping the demons in line but not obliterating them. They close the gates of Hell through Jack (who through this gives up his ultra-level powers and becomes less of a threat).
- Mary gets whatever it is that she wants and the boys are happy for her.
- Sam and Dean let go of the baggage of their childhoods and forgive John.
- Cas is Human. He is the poster boy for the Angels to learn to love Humanity again, they want him to be their leader but he teaches them to have a democracy of sorts or sets Jack up to lead them and gives up his position and powers to be Human and be with his true family, he is HAPPY.
- Sam lets go of his guilt and cleanliness hang ups through his arc re: Jack and defeating Lucifer. He eats real freaking meals and enjoys them. He loves candy and he and Cas love to share a bag of gummy bears whilst binge watching netflix or reading together in the evenings.
- Sam and Cas go on runs together.
- Dean is unrepressed and openly enjoys the things he has sublimated over the years eg. Disney movies, other music, cake, fruit juices, his bisexuality etc.
- Destiel is canon and super fluffy but it doesn’t change a huge amount of the dynamics in the show, they are just more smiley and we have a few cute snippets of them interacting in the morning or Dean making a sex joke to Sam who cringes but kind of laughs too cos he is happy for them.
- An unknown single mother dies on a hunt and Dean and Cas raise the baby (yes yes I know, not everyone wants this but I want hunter daddies and uncle Sammy, sue me).
- Saileen and Sam gets a dog. EILEEN IS ALIVE, I DON’T CARE HOW, PROBABLY AU EILEEN, BUT SHE IS THERE AND THEY ARE IN LOVE AND IT IS AWESOME.
- EVERYONE IS HAPPY, THE SHOW ENDS BY ‘FIXING’ ALL THEIR MISERABLE ISSUES FROM THE PILOT, THE WORLD IS NOT FACING ANY MORE APOCALPYSES AND THEY SPEND THEIR TIME TEACHING THE NEW GENERATION TO DEAL WITH NORMAL LEVEL MONSTERS AND CHILLING OUT WATCHING NETFLIX AND GETTING OLDER AND CHUBBIER AND LOVING EVERY MOMENT OF IT.
I WANT ALL THE FLUFF AND HAPPY ENDINGS! :D
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ripplestitchskein · 8 years ago
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Rant. Rant. Rant.
As much as I complain about consistency in this show the one area where A&E have truly stuck to their guns is insisting that a lifetime of struggle is the only way a female can be strong or that her main function is as a catalyst for the poor behavior of a man, sweeping crimes against the female characters under the rug, and retconning heroism for the undeserving.
The Wish Realm really served as a microcosm of all of these issues, all of them reflecting other more spread out examples in two hours of some of the most disgusting television I’ve ever seen.
First we have Emma, whose main lesson in this AU was apparently that her life experience of being repeatedly abandoned, left to her own devices, a life time of pain and hurt was the only thing that made her truly her. Without her Saviorness she was a vapid “singing princess” who sacrificed her entire kingdom to save the lives of her parents and it was only through the intense pain of their deaths that she “woke up” and found the strong woman within.
This is in contrast to Deckhand!Hook who via extremely similar circumstances was robbed of his major character traits, the bravery and determination that made him him, and was able to overcome that entirely on his own, without any terrible pain or sacrifice on his part, protecting a strange woman he was drawn to and her child was enough. But Emma had to actually witness the brutal murder of those she loved before she could undergo a similar transformation.
That’s just so…gross, to me? Firstly because there is nothing inherently wrong with being a “singing princess” yet there was nothing to indicate that she would have been strong and resilient regardless, only her experiences made her that way. So people who don’t know struggle can’t be strong? Girl’s who are more or less the real life version of the “singing princess” can’t rise to the occasion on their own merit when the situation calls for it? A man can be motivated by love to change and find his inner courage but a woman must always be motivated by pain? Sorry, I call foul.
Then there’s Belle, poor Pile of Bones!Belle who actually served more of a narrative function in the whole two hours than Killian did. Her entire purpose in that Wish Realm was to act as a reason for why Rumple would refuse to help Regina. Another in an unending line of women pointlessly killed to give a man motivation.
They could have kept her alive, could have made HER speak for herself, a wizened, tortured, hardened older version of Belle who asked Rumple not to help because of HER suffering, perhaps allowing Belle to finally have a spine and drop some truth bombs about Regina’s unrepentant treatment of her, but no way A&E would allow Rumple to be ordered around by a woman and unmanned in such a way and we certainly can’t talk about Regina’s crimes unless she’s having a crisis of confidence.
One the MOST consistent things about this show is the blatant disregard for crimes against female characters. Excepting Killian apologizing to Belle, and indicating he was trying to make it up to her, I can’t think of another time a man was held accountable for his actions against a female.
It’s not new, this has been going on for awhile. Arthur? Got a new kingdom, finally fulfilled his destiny for rifling through a few books and being a liability, but we never even HEARD from Guinevere again after her ENSLAVEMENT. She said goodbye and peaced out. Who knows what her mental condition is and she certainly never got to confront her husband for ENSLAVING HER.
Milah? Chucked into the River of Souls for daring to stand in Rumple’s way. Next episode Belle is saving his life and clutching at him. Everything cool here ya’ll. Never mentioned again. Will never BE mentioned again most like. Do the characters even know he did that? I can’t remember BECAUSE NO ONE CARED IF HE DID.
Neal and August send a pregnant Emma to jail?
Heroes! The biggest heroes there ever was.
August steals the money that might have prevented her from apparently continuing a life of crime, and he was just doing it for her own good!
Neal impregnated an underage girl and then has the audacity to be angry at her for not telling him, when it was HIM who made the decision to leave her. Well of course, that’s his right as a father!
Dude gets killed because of his own stupidity, but he’s celebrated and praised as a hero, a baby is even named for him! He contributed to what might be one of the darker periods of Emma’s life, the reason for her trust issues, but he’s just such a NORMAL guy you know? He gets a big ole portrait in the WishRealm and a heroes veneration because A&E just love their ordinary joe who is not at all a self insert and they are in no way threatened by the handsome, dashing, feminist pirate captain. No way. “Please ignore us making him look like a complete fool and doing what we can to marr his handsomeness (unsuccessfully), it has nothing to do with our own insecurities, we promise, we just thought it would be funny!”
And August, he might have been the brains behind the “Send Emma to Jail When Really Leaving Her Behind Would Be Enough” plan and he steals the money Neal left her, but hey he told her a story once and he believed in her a couple times so it’s cool, let’s never mention it again! Best friends forever!
SHE ACTUALLY THANKED HIM. That happened. The woman who was betrayed and sent to jail, who had to live with her pregnancy behind bars, who had to give up her baby because she had no way to support him because August STOLE HER MONEY, actually told that motherfucker Thank You.
That happened. But these struggles made her so STRONG you guys.
And let’s talk about Rumple who all of sudden is Team Hero again, trying to help his son. Not once does Belle turn to him and say “You know, if you hadn’t chased my pregnant ass around with scissors threatening to like, de-soul our baby, none of this would have happened?? He would have been fine? Maybe going on baby play dates with the other rapidly aged baby Robyn instead of rocking a terrible haircut and trying to kill the Savior.”
Nope, Rumple gets a clean slate. All is forgiven! A reconciliation is imminent, they are working together for their son. Babies forgive all manner of abuse apparently. Let’s stay together for the children. Hand holding and the desperate bond of parenthood apparently trump endangering the child’s life in the first place.
It’s just SO FUCKING GROSS.
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