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Dammit Magneto
Finally watching Last Stand and of course Eric is being a dick for no reason. Shit like this is always the worst part of the X-Men movies for me. Like I get it, magneto does ethically questionable shit to protect mutant kind but COME ON. He's been misguided in this trilogy, and he's even disappointed me. But now I just want to punch him, and I have the feeling its going to get worse.
Like damn Magneto! You really gonna do Mystique like that after everything. Not even gonna give her a coat or something? Call her a cab? Guess anyone who rolls with Magneto better be careful not to get hate crimed because the master of magnetism will drop you at the speed of quicksilver. Fucking hate it when Magneto is written like this, it is my biggest issue with the X-Men movies. X-Men 97 Magneto is like a cherry popsicle on a hot day.
#x men 97#Xmen#Magneto is a messy bitch#I can't deal with movie magneto#x men movies#ian mckellen is still fantastic tho#Kelsey Grammer is killing it so I'll try to finish the movie for that.
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thinking about Emma Frost again. let's imagine for a second X-Men matters and my opinion must be shared.
When I was a kid I really respected and liked Professor X. I thought his stances on issues were calm and reasonable and I thought his efforts were, while ultimately fruitless, the best ones in the fictional conversation about inclusivity and race and all that. this is a subtle reference to the fact I only watched the cartoon and the movies as a kid.
When I grew older and learned English I started engaging with the comics and realized that oh, turns out the adaptations are superficial at best and fladerizing at worst, and there's a lot more to Charles than Being Correct. He's actually in fact a scathing critique of control and flawed leaders of good faith ideals, and how you're supposed to grow over those who created the words you use to free yourself from tyranny. Professor X is a jerk, Magneto was right, all that.
But over time I realized how much that erases Emma Frost, villain turned voice of reason extraordinaire.
Emma starts her tenure in X-Men as Claremont's personification of everything that is bad with high society, accosted by Sebastian Shaw, which is that but male. Emma is genuinely awful when Claremont writes her; a GOOD awful, on purpose, but she's not supposed to be relatable. She has her own mutant school, her own team of mutants, her own answer to Cerebro. She's the most genuine Evil Xavier we get for a full two decades. and she's great at it! Even if the hellfire club almost always truces with the X-Men for the sake of fighting a more important battle, there's no question that you're not supposed to root for Emma.
And then in the 90s something changes, Claremont goes away for a second, other people approach the character, and the question becomes, why are we treating her like evil Xavier? She's building community. She's giving a voice to the disenfranchised. She's training them and she's caring for them and at no point is she asking of them things they actively disagree with, which can't be said of Charles. And so starts the process most every X-Men villain goes through: humanization, complexity, redemption. And fuck does Emma redeem herself.
Ten years into not being a caricature of high class, Emma has accrued a tragic backstory, several positive projects in canon, renown as a genius, positive relationships to several characters, and a main team spot in a highly acclaimed, influential run as of New X-Men. A whole new generation of readers introduced to Emma, new powers, new MO, new everything. Other characters are changing drastically, usually backwards, to accompany the movie's success -- Magneto is evil again, Jean goes back to being the Phoenix, Charles is a lot more like Captain Picard. But Emma? Emma gets to keep going. She changes things wherever she goes.
She hooks up with Cyclops, her daughters become their new Cerebro, she becomes the new heavy-hitter, the Hellfire Club becomes more Shaw and Shinobi's deal than hers... obviously, this isn't consistent. She's got low points and moments that don't agree to her new character. But this woman, who started as commentary on how the rich will destroy you for fun, is now a key positive portion of the world because at some point in time, she had a point -- Charles *isn't* the end-all-be-all of the matter of teaching young mutants, Erik *isn't* the best way forward as far as mutant armadas go, there *is* nuance to their dualistic conversation, the dichotomy is only enforced because they're loud, but she can be louder, she can be louder than any of them--
And then Krakoa hits. Yes, there's a full ten years of bad X-Men stories, many of them including Emma, at least one of them including Emma genociding a few Inhumans. But then Krakoa hits, and every character gets a new project.
Cyclops? Seeing the world move on in ways he might not approve of. Wolverine? Being happy, and realizing he means to fight to keep it going. Erik? Charles? Apocalypse?? Seeing how strong their "dreams" are when they compromise, and realizing oh, I am willing to do *anything* to keep this going, quite literally anything, there is no crime predicted by man or god that would be beyond my reach if it meant paradise would not be lost.
Emma? Emma keeps doing what she's been doing from the word go. Keep it fabulous. Keep the children safe. Don't fall for the lies. At some point someone will invade your privacy and try to take everything away from you. Your job is not to simply destroy them. Your job is to showcase to them how this too was accounted for.
Emma, alongside her planning, her alliances, her leading of the resistance, her unfathomable internal strength and her willingness to see the world for what it is, won the war for Krakoa. Charles wanted things to stay the way they were, Erik wanted things to be the way he dreamed they could be, Apocalypse wanted things to impress him.
Emma wanted them to be safe and sound. Emma wanted the children to be safe. And when Krakoa rose and left, now fully developed and having outgrown her as well, she picked herself back up and went to train a new generation.
There's always children to keep safe. There's always a new generation. The work is never finished.
Yes, the O5 have their own version of Xavier's dream fulfilled, but Emma is the only one who managed to keep herself genuine while evolving. In a room with religious zealots, war criminals, villains and ancients evils, Emma could always look at Kitty Pryde and think to herself, look at what we're doing, my friend. Look at what we have to work with. We're not saving them from themselves, we're saving everyone they're willing to sacrifice.
I wish those adaptations would make Emma Frost sound like she does to me. She's not just a third option to the Professor X-Magneto dichotomy. She's a person asking why is this a dichotomy in the first place. She's too busy actually caring about people to bother with the bickering.
For the children, they said when they wanted her to join their little utopia. For the children, she sighed back, realizing that if she didn't say it, quite literally no one else would.
#emma frost#x men#uncanny x men#white queen#i just really love her man#figured it was better to rant here instead of in chatboxes no one reads
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Hey! Are there any Xavierine hurt/comfort fics that you would recommend?
(I guess the ones with hurt!Logan are pretty rare, but either is fine.)
Thank you 🙏🏻
Oh boy, Anon, I'm so happy to get an ask for Xavierine fic recs!!! Here are some excellent hurt/comfort fics for you to enjoy (I've also added a couple of my own on the list!):
Insomnia by Rellanka
Charles had never made that confession to anyone before. People already regarded his telepathy with distaste and suspicion; if he was lucky, they were willing to trust him to use it only when necessary. He had never let anyone else know how invasive their own mind was.
Or: Charles's telepathy is more difficult to deal with than you think. He just wants to sleep.
Keep On Walking by Nevcolleil
"I want this while I can still have it," Charles says, sounding clear-headed enough.
Something in his voice stops Logan's breath. Logan swallows. "You can't have-"
"I am capable of having sex without the serum," Charles tells him and doesn't look away. "But I'm not talking about my paralysis."
Cellulose Acetate by bocje_ce_ustu
At first it is terrifying and, in a way, heartbreakingly beautiful, not unlike watching a star dying in fast forward.
Daylight by orphan_account
"What do you want, Logan?" Charles attempts to sound hostile, but his voice trembles instead.
Logan doesn't know either. But he knows that Charles is much more than the sum of his insecurities.
Diamond in the rough by flightinflame
After escaping from Stryker's captivity, the only place Logan has to go is to the school, but he doesn't know what will be waiting for him there.
Surfacing by Lynds
Logan is pulled from the Potomac by Hank and Charles, just after the battle with Magneto. He's not the only one who feels like he's drowning.
Looking for the Good by DestielsDestiny
Logan wasn’t in love with Charles. Until he suddenly kind of was. Always had been. Logan feels this is the time to point out that time travel is rather confusing.
Sick by saraid
Even Logan's healing factor can be overwhelmed.
The Choices We Make by Gerec
Soulmate AU: The minute he meets Erik, Charles is positive he's found his soulmate. When Erik's name fails to appear on his body, he's confused, but dismisses it as being too faint to see yet or some other quirk that happens occasionally. Time goes on and he still can't find Erik's name, through the beach, through Kennedy, through Vietnam, even though he looks every day, then every week, then only every so often.
Then as he's showering to pull himself together and go to break Erik out of the Pentagon and he sees the dark letters on the inside of his wrist: LOGAN.
Time for Home by Gerec
Post XMA, Charles and Jean bring Logan back to the School.
Eden Found by Gerec (chapter 2)
Missing scenes from the movie Logan. Canon compliant unless stated otherwise.
#gerec rambles#xavierine#charles/logan#fic rec#gerec's fic rec#hurt/comfort#i'm so happy#i love this ship and miss it so much#hurt!Logan#hurt!Charles#there's both on this list!
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Do you have any criticism towards the Magnus Family fans?
Anon, all I got is criticism, I'm a full time hater ❤️❤️
Okay unironically though, if you're looking for specifics, well my prevailing feeling about Magnetfam folks is that a lot of them feel like Batfam people who got lost. By that I mean it feels like a community built around fanlore and fan material, as opposed to actually engaging with the text itself, or if they do engage with the comics, it's often being read with those fan interpretations in mind. You see this with people making House of M to be this great AU thing that makes them a royal family, and not the deeply ableist, misogynistic, racist storyline that it is.
Equally, and I want to make it clear that there's no wrong way to get into comics, and this conversation is much more about how movie characterisations keep them from engaging with comics on their own, but a lot of them appear to have gotten into comics via the X-Men movies, and specifically via the prequel films, which offer a very warped view on Magneto, and especially one on Pietro, not that you can call that character Pietro in a meaningful way. It's in the way the focus is primarily on Magneto, with Wanda and Pietro (especially Pietro) being more accessories to him than actual characters.
Look, I hate the retcon as much as the next person, but Wanda and Pietro's mutant identities, while important, have never been a defining aspect of their characters, and you can easily make a recognisable Pietro and Wanda without making them children of Magneto. But then they wouldn't be related to the X-Men, and you can't expect us to read something that isn't the X-Men, right? It's interesting, because the bulk of the comics that discuss Wanda's mutant identity and her experience of being a Rromani mutant witch are Avengers comics, but those don't count because X isn't in the title. Pietro makes more sense to be related to the X-Men (he was in two different volumes of X-Factor after all), but even then, his character journey can never be contained to just what he does in X Books, and I feel like a lot of people ignore this because of the preoccupation with Magneto. It isn't a bad thing to have a favourite character–but it feels weird to position yourself as a fan of the whole "family" while Wanda and Pietro's relation to the family is only an nth of the total comics they've been in.
Also, I get frustrated with the blanketing of all the interesting dynamics in the family to be the same, "I choose you and I love you" relationship they seem to have now. This is going to be a controversial statement, but I don't think Lorna and Wanda should necessarily get along. I think they respect each other a great deal, but they have never grown up together in any way, and they've never enjoyed the same experience of being on the same team and building a solid dynamic like Lorna and Pietro. And that isn't a bad thing! As someone with family members I was estranged from my whole life and only met as an adult, sometimes you never gain the same level of intimacy and love that you do with people you've lived your whole life knowing, and sometimes you just don't really get on. And that's okay too! It's an awkward situation, but that's just family as a whole a lot of the time, and I would have appreciated seeing the different ways different people in those situations react to suddenly having an entire sister they never knew about. Plus, it would be an interesting spin on the norm, which is that Wanda is much more approachable and social than Pietro, but with Lorna she's suddenly the one struggling to make friends. I dunno, I just think a lot of the complexity of family dynamics gets sucked out and that's a big shame to me because one of the most interesting parts of this side of the Marvel Universe is the exploration of navigating new family as an adult, which is a difficult experience I rarely see represented in media.
Finally, and this is completely a me thing, but I don't like the way Vision and Crystal are excluded from the family. Regardless of your opinions on the healthiness of their respective relationships, objectively speaking they are incredibly important to the family as the reason why Wanda and Pietro each have children. There is no Tommy, Billy or Luna without Vision and Crystal, and it kind of shows how the emphasis really is on Magneto and Magneto alone, because everyone who doesn't have a relationship with him is excluded. As I've discussed before, Wanda objectively loves Crystal as a person, and she should be far more prominent as someone Wanda values as a sister in law than she is. Additionally, Vision and Pietro have a much closer and more mature relationship than they are depicted with in fanon, because people saw that one panel of Pietro calling Vision a watch out of context and have never read anything of them together since. Vision and Crystal ARE a part of their family, and if you can't accept that then I think you need to get into something else.
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I saw so many people raving about x men 97, that I had to watch it.
but none of y'all motherFUCKERS warned me that rogue was gonna hook up with magneto.
it's not a deal breaker (yet), but you can't do that shit to me without warning.
I know they were a thing in the comics, but consider that a lot of stupid shit happens in the comics, and it still doesn't see the light of day in the shows or movies.
if I find out professor x is dating a teenager at the end of this series, and none of you said anything about it, you're going to hear from my lawyer.
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Why the Beach divorce is unfixable (and why it doesn't work in Good Omens 2)
I think we can all agree that XMFC is a ...~flawed~ movie. I mean, I could write long, long posts about the inherent sexism and racist implications. But today, I want to talk about one thing that actually worked. That made so much sense and hit so hard, it single-handedly saved the whole film for me. Something that I've seen come up recently, again, under the cherik-tag because of another fandom and show. Where something very similar happens, only that in this case, it doesn't work at all.
(if you haven't watched GO S2 yet, spoilers. Also, if you enjoyed the second season, good for you, but this post is going to be highly critical of it. Gotta be my last post about that, since I believe in getting it out of your system but not continually spreading negativity and holding a grudge.)
So, with this post, I would like to dissect *why*: What makes the Beach Divorce (TM) in First Class work so well is its preparation in the previous events of that film and even before that. The thing about First Class is, while not being the perfect prequel timeline-wise with the previous motives of the first X-Men-trilogy, it still works *because* it is a prequel. At least the very specific part about Professor X and Magneto. Because from the start, when Charles pulls Erik out of the ocean, we, the informed audience, know how it's going to end. But for some moments you tend to forget, when they go on a trip to recruit mutants, training them, working so well together. And even when the small cracks are already visible in the way they discuss the issue of mutant integration into society, one could still hope that maybe this time, they'll find a way, settle their differences and keep building the future. Together. But it's still the same story. It's still the same characters. And both Erik and Charles could never change their core values. Their lives have already shaped them into who they are inherently, and they can't change what they do because they can't change what they *want*. Which is why the line "We want the same thing." - "Oh, I'm sorry my friend. But we do not." hits so hard. Because both is true. On a broader level, they *do* both want the same thing. A better future for mutantkind. Yet just as equally true is the fact that they will never want to choose the same path to get there.
To point it out directly, what makes the Beach Divorce (TM) so brilliantly devastating is that it makes 100% perfect sense for the two characters to behave that way. It makes sense that Erik, who sees someone he clearly cares for (loves) being shot, again!, can't initially accept that it's his fault. It makes sense for him, after taking an unimaginable amount of courage to make himself vulnerable in front of Charles, for the very first time on screen in front of ANYNONE mind you, laying down awkwardly but raw in its honesty how much this man in his arms means to him, to immediately close off and become cold again after being utterly rejected, in his PoV. It makes just as much sense for Charles who spent this movie trying to show Erik that there could be other ways to deal with issues than violence, would perceive how Erik takes on a helmet that cuts him off, kills a man while Charles is IN HIS HEAD, tries to kill "innocent" people and ultimately, shoots him, to conclude that his friend (love interest) has long since chosen a path where he could never follow him and therefore see choosing different sides (breaking up) as the only available option. And you can try to "fix" this. You can make up any scenario you can think of, and it still would play out like that because you can't change how each Erik and Charles perceive the world without changing inherently who they are as characters. That's what makes it so gut-wrenchingly tragic.
The whole tragedy of the tale of cherik is laid out in this one scene: That if the two of them looked into the mirror of erised, they'd see the same vision. Them being together and leading the mutant race in a bright future for them. But in reality, the means they choose to get to that end will never be compatible. Its tragedy defines itself through a subversion of the trope "Love on opposite sides". Because they *choose* to be that. It's not external circumstances that keep them from being together, it's their own values and convictions. Which is what keeps me so obsessed with these two, since that is so uniquely ~them~. So why do I think that this very similar scene, which I described as so brilliantly heartbreaking in one context, doesn't work for Good Omens 2? well... BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR *THESE* CHARACTERS! Because Crowley and Aziraphale are the exact opposite of Cherik. They too, may be a couple that finds itself on different sides, but in their case, that's entirely an external circumstance, while their internal values and convictions align almost perfectly (depending whether we talk book omens or S1GO). Because the core of Ineffable spouses ship is that they are on the same side when they shouldn't be. They have their orders to obey, they have their instructions to despise each other, but they simply don't care enough since They are more interested in earth (and each other) than their respective head offices. That's what makes them work as friends, as a couple, as a ship. So when season 2 pulled a beach divorce à la Cherik, I was mad and disappointed because for me, it tears apart what their relationship is all about. And I'm ok with that kind of sacrifice when it gives you something valuable narrative-wise, which it didn't. And I have no hope of season 3 paying off for that. There was just not a big enough reason for me to break off the backbone of the entire story. That it is possible for you to make your own choices and be with the people you want to be with even if an oppressive system tells you no. It just doesn't make sense.
(So yeah, does this post only exist because I tried to get my head off from the destruction of a very dear ship of mine but also not wanting to spoil anyone's fun, by scrolling through the cherik-tag on Tumblr instead of the good omens tags and seeing so many posts comparing these two scenes, thinking "can you escape this *anywhere* on this page?" while also getting annoyed since how I pointed out in this post, it doesn't work at all in the second context? Maybe. But that's just me. ;))
#cherik#gos2 spoilers#ineffable husbands#good omens critical#beach divorce#annnnd another morning successfully wasted by writing awfully long tumblr posts! :D#like i said (hopefully) last post about GO2 since I want to move on
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Magneto's Kids
Chapter 9
"Wow" Peter's eyes widened. He had never seen the house so clean. Even weirder was Pietro was the one cleaning it.
"A few of my friends are coming over," Pietro said laying a plate of cookies on the table. Peter leaped over the couch and grabbed a cookie.
"Touch those and I'll tell Wanda you broke her glass horse" Peter quickly dropped the cookie.
"Whatever" he zoomed over to the kitchen and grabbed him a pop-tart.
"These are my human friends, so please no using your super speed or super mouth" Peter stuck his tongue out.
"You're getting to be as boring as a dad" Peter groaned. As soon as someone pulled into the driveway Pietro ran over to open the door.
"Hey speedy" a dark-haired girl greeted him with her arms out.
"Hey K-bear" Pietro smiled hugging the girl, "I thought Liz was riding with you" The girl seemed very uneasy at the mention of Liz.
"She decided to come in her car" she turned to Peter "Are you going to introduce me?"
"Oh, Kaitlyn this is my little brother Peter" Kaitlyn smiled reaching out to shake Peter's hand.
"Nice to meet you" Peter shook her hand.
"Hey Pie" a girl with fizzy dark hair walked into the house and wrapped her arms around Pietro.
"This is my girlfriend Lizzy" Pietro introduced his girlfriend. Peter smiled and shook her hand. There was something off about her. Peter shook his head 'I'm probably just imagining it'
Time skip
Pietro and his friend were sitting in the living room watching movies.
"I could so do that" one of the guys pointed to the TV.
"Yeah right," Pietro laughed, "Ten bucks says you can't" All the guys suddenly ran out the door.
"I got to see this " Kaitlyn grabbed her coat chasing the boys out the door.
"I swear they are a bunch of kids" Lizzy pulled out a cigarette.
"Dad doesn't like smoking in the house," Peter said grabbing a cookie.
"Silver hair that's a mutation right" She pulled his hair "What a freak" she laughed.
"Hey let go!" He pushed her away. He went toward the door
"Where do you think you're going ?" She smirked "to tell big brother? Who do you think he'll believe his girlfriend of five years or a little punk he barely knows"
"What?" Peter's eyes widened as he tried to pull away.
"Here's the deal" her eyes narrowed "You are going to do everything I say or I'll tell Pietro you attacked me, he and Wanda will abandon you so fast it'll make your head spin" She quickly let go of Peter as someone opened the door.
"Forgot my drink" Kaitlyn grabbed her drink off the table. She looked suspiciously toward Lizzy "What are you doing?"
"Just having some bonding time" She smiled innocently "Isn't that right Petey?" Peter just nodded his head refusing to look up.
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3,6-10, 12-22, 24-25
Let the violence commence!
to start with I was like what is violence about this? Now I see Also, going to go with x-men. there are other fandoms that I was mentally thinking about for some of these but i don't want to actually be murdered also, AHHHHH still enjoy asks so much
3. screenshot or description of the worst take you've seen on tumblr
Charles dies before Erik of alcohol poisioning. Like there's not comics and movies where he dies of literally everything else first. The man dies at least once a day.
6. which ship fans are the most annoying?
It's cherik shippers. It's us, let's be honest, I'm sure it is. What other ships are out there?
7. what character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because how how the fandom acts about them?
Logan. I don't know everyone is like FUCK MAGNETO LOGAN IS THE MEOW MEOW MURDER ERIK and it's like...excuse you. I want to see them fight this out themselves. I mean Erik would win but still.
8. common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about
Charles is a night owl, Erik is up before the sun every morning. I've seen so much of people flipping it or saying Charles is somehow both. I'm sure the telepath doesn't get much sleep but Erik? He doesn't either. Charles just stays up late trying to tire himself out enough to sleep and Erik sleeps until he can't and then he's up and out of bed and it's like 4am.
9. worst part of canon
MOIRA FUCKING MACTAGGART. I was going to say the lack of cherik but i think we've been given that.
10. worst part of fanon
I can't really think of anything. I mean there's the constant nom-powered au that leaves me wondering what Erik's problem is then but it's nothing I have that much of an issue with. More just curious
12. the unpopular character that you actually like and why more people should like them
I suppose Erik doesn't count? It seems like most of the general population is convinced he's just an evil villain and dislike him. Charles? I mean people seem to have the right ideas. They like Pietro and I'll take that.
13. worst blorboficiation
Going back to logan about this one
14. that one thing you see in fics all the time
A negative thing? positive? something I just noticed? no beach divorce. I see that a lot.
15. that one thing you see in fanart all the time
I don't actually see that much fan art. I don't know? Cherik kissing? That seems to be most of what I see
16. you can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc)
The fics based in canon where Charles can just suddenly walk and is fully able-bodied. Like if he's using a cane or walker or something sure, all for that but like post-apocalypse and he's walking or they're on Genosha and it's magic.
17. there should be more of this type of fic/art
Misunderstandings, secret relationships, and insecurity are all tags I start ao3 for almost daily
18. it's absolutely criminal that the fandom has been sleeping on...
Still want more dofp fics where Erik is there as Charles's powers return and sees the pain he seems to be in. Or fics dealing with Erik's mental state after solitary. I can't write them all by myself. Someone help me.
19. you're mad/ashamed/horrified you actually kind of like...
mpreg is coming to mind. the idea of Charles and Erik having a biological child? Charles pregnant during Cuba and getting Erik to come back that way? OR Erik leaving, realizing he's pregnant, and then coming back to Charles to protect their child? YES
20. part of canon you found tedious or boring
Jean Grey.
21. part of canon you think is overhyped
Honestly, not to keep bringing it up, but still haven't seen the Logan movies
22. your favorite part of canon that everyone else ignores
It's the little things. Erik saving Charles as they crash on the beach. Paris. The way Charles winces when he sits in Darwin's cab during first class. Oh also "you're always sorry, Charles, and there's always a speech"
24. topic that brings up the most rancid discourse
Similarities between Erik and Shaw I think. I hate when people are like "Oh so now you're turning into the man that killed your mother" no, he's not turning into a nazi fuck off. He's making some...decisions. but he's not literally turning into shaw.
25. common fandom complaint that you're sick of hearing
...how bad the last two movies were. Don't get me wrong, they weren't great. They certainly weren't the level of the first class and dofp, but they had their moments. I don't think they were entirely terrible and some people insist they weren't worth the time watching them.
#don't hate me i'm sorry for the logan stuff#its not that i don't like him#i just like erik more#and i've been made to feel like i have to choose#and erik looks like he could use the support#logan has enough of it
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On liminality, and the stuff Tony Stark says
Anyway, Tony seems to give me very Classic Comic Book vibes despite physically looking like Robert Downey Jr. This one time he said something like "Look honey, we're not really 'people' anymore, but we also can't be gods. We are what people WANT TO BE, and that is a very finicky place in the spirit-world."
Sometimes Tony just confirms my suspicions that "Superheroes are modern mythology."
...And then he says shit like "Come onnnnn, just ask me for help! Pleassssse!!!! I'm fucking rich, there are a LOT of ways I can help a broke writer!"
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It seems you need a certain level of "standing" to be a LIKELY pop-culture spirit. The more prominent a work is in society, the more likely the characters start "answering calls." Ie, Marvel and DC.
There are HUNDREDS of media works out there and it seems spirits need enough "focus" to become egregores/embodied/"full spirits." I don't see anyone (admitting to???) meeting the Fullmetal Alchemist characters, but I HAVE seen at least one person who believes that they accidentally met Magneto.
Like, they did a semi-joking "summoning" ritual for the X-Men and they did not expect to MEET SOMEONE.
If that isn't the start to a horror movie, I don't know what is.
But given my current works dealing with colonization myself, if I met Magneto IN THE VERY FAR FUTURE, WITH NO SIGNIFICANT METAL AROUND, I would absolutely tell him that he has some great points.
And maybe it's not only "how prominent" a story is in general, but the nature of the story itself? Maybe the superheroes are more likely to get embodied not only because they're popular, but because their whole genre involves "helping people," so folks are more likely to "invoke" them. Meanwhile FMA is ultimately a war-story/series and like... nobody's "calling on" Roy Mustang.
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Speaking of the Avengers, the rest of them showed up last night in the meditation. The moment Other-Thor came, I just lost it, hugged him, and started crying. Not sure if I was happy or sad, it was probably both.
The doofus just smiled and went "Well, this is a lovely welcome!"
Cap was laughing and went, "She didn't even cry when I came here the first time!"
Thor and Loki are going to be VERY important characters in the modern side of my Marvel fanfic, so maybe that's why I reacted like I did.
Or maybe it's because Movie-Thor has a recovering-from-depression arc?
Honestly, Thor is my PERSONAL favorite Avenger and I never could figure out why. Maybe because he and Cap are just NICE?
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This one time I was YET AGAIN trying to sleep, so Tony rolled up with some spiritual-whiskey and gave me some shots. It didn't work, so when Spirit-Me wandered back to the Water-Spirit just completely shitfaced and crying, Hera got mad when she saw us and she yelled, "TONY! WHAT. DID. YOU. DO??? SHE'S A MESS!!!"
And Tony was like "She can't sleep. I gave her some shots, but she is WIRED, man."
So she ordered him to get out so I could sober up, but Tony just snapped at her, "Hera, I am not a god and I'm sure as hell not Greek! You have no power over me!"
And yeah, she couldn't actually make him LEAVE, unless she wanted to start a fight with a very drunk and squishy bard in the room, so she just settled for chaperoning me for a while.
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If I had to lock down the superheroes as anything "properly spiritual," they feel a lot like intermediaries/intercessors. So many of them are human-turned-something-else, and their ties to humanity are a constant theme, plus there's a thin line between "invoking a spirit ON BEHALF OF a god" and "invoking someone AS AN ACTUAL GOD."
The Tagalog pantheon supposedly said that most gods were "agents of the supreme deity Bathala," but they all ended up being treated as deities by the time the Spanish came along, so I wonder if a similar confusion between "really powerful intermediaries" and "deities" are happening with the likes of Marvel and DC.
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"So, you got a new Ultimates comic for me?"
"YES SIR I DO
So Tony Stark and the Black Widow are having sex...."
"OH WOW"
"YEAH JUST GOIN' AT IT RIGHT THERE ON THE PAGE
And the Ultimates are all watching"
"Ohhhhhh, what the hell are you talking about?"
"Oh see so we're gonna start this thing with Tony Stark's sex tape being leaked"
"We're going to start this thrilling superhero adventure with the team watching a leaked sex tape?"
"YEAH WE ARE"
"Well alright then
So what else is happening in this thing?"
"Well the team are going to have to figure out WHO KILLED THE SCARLET WITCH"
"She's from the other two miniseries!"
"Yeah, and someone kills her!"
"Ohhhhhhh killing off your female characters for the sake of drama is TIGHT!"
"So the whole team is pretty shaken especially Pietro, her lover and also her brother"
"Oh whose her brother?"
"Pietro"
"I thought you said Pietro was her lover"
"He is"
"OHHHHH VERY CREEPY"
"Yeah we're just gonna devote whole pages and pages and PAGES of this thing to how she's having sex with her brother"
"I mean....sure....or we could not....do that"
"NO WE'RE GONNA"
"Okay"
"So Pietro is all "You can't help me find my sisters killer! I'm going back to the Brotherhood of Mutants!" and he goes off with Magneto to the Savage Land"
"He thinks that the superhero organisation connected to the worlds most powerful spy agency won't be able to find his sisters killer but his abusive father who lives on a dinosaur island will?"
"HE DOES"
"Well great"
"And then WOLVERINE shows up!"
"He's from every single one of the X-men movies!"
"HE IS!"
"What's he gonna do?"
"Be in this comic so that Wolverine fans will buy it"
"SICK"
"And they all go off to the Savage Land to stop Magneto from...from uhhhh....from finding the person who killed their team mate I guess"
"Why would they want to stop that"
"Look I literally just wrote the words "Fight Scene" on a BUNCH of these pages so i'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about why any of this happening"
"Okay let me get off of that thing"
"So the Ultimates and their new member Black Panther go off to fight Magneto"
"Ohhhhh Black Panther is in this?
Whats his deal?"
"He's Captain America!"
"Black Panther was pretending to be a black man?"
"He was a little bit yeah
And Thor takes his new teenage girlfriend Valkyrie with him too"
"Ohhhhh being an old man dating a teenager is TI..."
"NOPE DON'T SAY THAT NO"
"But it's my catchphrase"
"Mmmmm save it please"
"So do they defeat Magneto?"
"They don't no, because this is all set up for the sequel"
"We're going to make people buy five issues of prologue for a story that hasn't come out yet?"
"Yes, because money"
"Ohhhhhhh tricking people into wasting money on set up is TIGHT!"
"I'll allow that one
And then it turns out that the person who killed Scarlet Witch was ULTRON!"
"Does Ultron even exist in the Ultimate Universe?"
"He does now"
"I bet it'll be hard for them to beat him"
"Actually it's going to be SUPER EASY
Barely an inconvenience!"
"Oh, it is?"
"Yeah Ant-Man just grows really tall and Ultron is like "I don't want to kill you Jan, your like a mother to me" and Ant-Man is going to go "I GUESS YOU CAN CALL ME THE MOTHER-****ER!" and punch him"
"Ohhhhh being a mo..."
"NOPE NOT ALLOWING THAT ONE"
"So then what happens?"
"Well then Hawkeye shoots Pietro because its the end of the comic and we need something dramatic to happen to set up the sequel"
"We do need that, yeah"
"And then we find out this whole thing was masterminded by Doctor Doom"
"Oh wow Doctor Doom?
I bet that's going to make for a thrilling story"
"You'd think so yeah
Maybe
To be honest I havent actually got anything written here for it just a list of characters Marvel wants me to kill off
So what do ya think"
"Well I have to tell you it sounds like a weird creepy badly plotted mess but the first two Ultimates books sold like crazy so how can we fail?
I am a LITTLE worried about the whole Pietro and Wanda incest thing though"
"Oh I doubt anyone will even remember that"
When Ultimate Cap awoke in the modern day, a lot of jokes were made by the characters about him being out of touch. And for some reason they treated him not liking incest with him not liking modern music or film
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ALL THE SPOILERS IN THE MULTIVERSE
DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS
THE GOOD
-When Scott Derrickson stepped away from directing DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS, the rumour was that he did so because Kevin Fiege didn't like his idea of making the film "a no-holds-barred weird, gnarly, scary movie". Obviously that wasn't true because it really is a no-holds-barred, weird, gnarly and scary movie. It was obvious by the hiring of Sam Raimi that the film would hold on to those tenets because while people may associate him with his Spider-Man films, he's known by a larger audience by his EVIL DEAD films and horror films like DARKMAN and DRAG ME TO HELL.
While this film still looks like a "Marvel" film most of the time, Raimi does lean into more visually arresting looks giving the film a 70's horror feel; very Dario Argento at points.
-I managed to stay spoiler free for the most part but because being on Twitter you can't help but see spoilery info spill across the timeline and using context clues I managed to figure out a few of the cameos before I saw the film, but the one thing I wasn't spoiled on was that Wanda was the Big Bad! I really thought this film would serve to atone Wanda for WANDAVISION crimes, but in fact, it doubles down on how much the darkness has enveloped her. Olsen was great as the Scarlet Witch; a true formidable foe. And just coming off of MOON KNIGHT, I'm happy to see a good villain again.
-Love that Feige has seemingly come around to the Marvel series as the rumour was that he held no love for the ones that were on Netflix and ABC. So as great as it was to see Charlie Cox in NO WAY HOME, it was equally great to see Anson Mount as Black Bolt from the failed and greatly ridiculed INHUMANS.
-Nice that Sam Raimi brought in Bruce Campbell, Ash himself, for a small role -echoing his fight with himself scene from Evil Dead.
-Rachel McAdams and Benedict Cumberbatch has great chemistry and I would like to see one of the universe's Christine actually work it out with Stephen.
-The beauty of having a film spiraling through the multiverse is that there are actual risks involved. Sure, we've had heroes die in Marvel films but it's generally towards the end of their contract (Iron Man) or the end of a phase (Black Widow). The benefit of the multiverse is that you can create mass casualties of heroes and it's thrilling because it's shocking but it's bearable because it's of no consequence. Seeing Wanda lay waste to Mr. Fantastic, Peggy Carter's Captain Carter, Lashana Lynch's Captain Marvel and Black Bolt was wonderful.
Though her killing of Charles Xavier was too much. That hurt.
-Loved the idea that there's a Charles in another universe with a soft spot for people others have given up on. He's ever trying to find the good in someone. I just know in that universe he was playing checkers instead of chess with Magneto and still trying to keep him from committing genocide.
-Wong always coming through in the clutch.
-The Danny Elfman score, especially in the musical battle was outstanding.
-Give Michael Stuhlbarg one scene and he will still take it and make it amazing. He's such a fine actor who can do so much with so little.
THE BAD
The tag "Doctor Strange will return". Why? As good as this film in, I think Strange is better served in a smaller capacity as a guide in other films (helping Thor locate Odin, helping Peter in NO WAY HOME, now showing America her strength).
I suppose the next film could lead to some connection to ETERNALS and whatever they're planning on doing with those characters, but that just shows how weak a character he is that they just can't do stories centered around him. Or at least deal with him as a person outside of the magic wielding. I think Strange is more interesting when we get the sense of his regrets, which this film tapped into a bit.
But maybe we'll see more humanity with him and Charlize Theron's character in the next film.
- I don't think they explained Wanda's actions enough in this film. If you hadn't seen WANDAVISION Wanda's heel turn in this would be too insane. I think more explanation should have been given re: the loss of Vision and how it has led her down this dark road. Just making about the kids didn't really jibe (does her sons not have powers in their universe? They should have been able to combat Wanda a bit). I don't know why they couldn't just insert a dream sequence where she's recalling her argument with Vision from WANDAVISION on what she was doing to drive it home for those who hadn't watched the series.
#doctor strange 2#doctor strange#doctor strange in the multiverse of madness#spoiler alert#spoilers#marvel mcu#marvel#mcu#comic book movies
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Wandavision episode 7 detailed anylise+ some theories
The new episode left us more questions, but we still recieved some answers. The episode was full with interesting details so let's start with the beginning
This episode's intro was inspired by a TV show Happy endings and theme music and interviews with the characters inspired by the Office
One theory that I had in my head just like very other fan was that Agnes the neighbor was actually Agatha Harkness *shocked* (no). But is she actually the main villain?
Many noticed that during the whole show Agatha acted weird and now turns out that she's actually a which. She says that she's responsible for everything that happens in town but I don't believe it
In the comics Agatha Harkness wasn't a bad character. She was Wanda's mentor. I don't know how Marvel is going to show her in their universe but during the whole show she kept mentioning her husband- Ralph. Now that's the actual villain here
I believe that this mysterious Ralph is actually Mephisto or some other demon. Agatha probably made a deal with him and now is working for him. And here's why Agnes and Ralph actually need Wanda
This. This is the darkhold. And this book is very important.
In the comics darkhold was a book that contained the magic of a creature named Chthon, aka the primal evil that was created before humanity. He was banished from our world but there was a whole cult that wanted to bring him back. And maybe that's Agatha's or Mephisto's actual goal. They want to summon Chthon back to Earth and they need Wanda for that
Also an interesting fact, in comics Chthon actually possessed Pietro Maximoff. I don't think that Marvel is going to pull that off but that's pretty interesting
About Quicksilver. He's not Mephisto and now we know it for sure. Look at this
We can clearly see that Agatha controlled him. Why would she control him if that was Mephisto? He could've done everything himself, he's a very powerful demon
Now I think that this Pietro is actually Peter Maximoff from the X-men. He was pulled out of his universe and brainwashed by Agatha so that she could manipulate Wanda through him. But in episode 6 when Wanda uses her magic on Pietro he breaks free from Agatha's charm. I believe he, just like Vision, doesn't remember anything before Westview. But he's on the good side now and here's why
In the post credit scene Monica looks around and finds Agatha's basement. Now look at her eyes. They're purple. Agatha already started to control her too and Monica was ready to go to the basement when she was stopped by Pietro. Why would he stop her from going there if he was with Agatha? He basically saved her here. Marvel once again is trying to confuse us by making Pietro look like a villain. He's going to play his own role and I hope Evan Peters will stay in MCU
But what's up with Monica?
We now know that she has superpowers that she received from Wanda
In comics she was a superhero named Phaton or Spectrum. In wandavision her powers is basically all about energy: she can feel and control it. It's all obvious, she's a superhero now
More interesting is how she got those powers? By walking through Wanda's layer or portal or whatever it is. Wanda basically had awoken Monica's powers and this is a good start for Mutants in MCU. What of Wanda can awake the powers people already have and Monica became the first mutant in the MCU?
I'm very concerned about twins. They both now have superpowers: Tommy is Speed and Billy is Wiccan, just like in comics. Billy's powers keeps growing and it seems to disturb him. He notices that Agnes is "quiet", meaning he can't read her thoughts. Agnes understands that and this is the last time we see the boys
The whole scene with twins in Agnes' house reminds me of Gratel and Hansel. Kids in a witch's house, they were eating sandwiches and watching cartoons and then disappeared. They weren't in the basement like Agnes said so where are they?
The whole scene when Wanda sits on the couch in Agatha's house is creepy and the show makes us pay attention on the two specific details
Wanda sees a cicada in the curtains and a rabbit in a cage. Cicada symbolizes ressurection, spiritual realization and clairvoyance. Rabbits are usually very fast and dexterous. Doesn't it remind you of Billy and Tommy's superpowers? Maybe the witch had turned them into animals?
The commercial break in this episode was something really interesting.
Antidepressants nexus with side effects such as feeling your feelings, confronting your truth, seizing your destiny and more depression. These antidepressants can be a symbol of what Westview is for Wanda and how she decides to change the reality to not feel the pain. But what is Nexus exactly?
In MCU nexus was mentioned before in Thor 2. In the comics Nexus is basically a substance, object or a person that can travel trough realities. And Wanda was one of the Nexuses in the comics. And that's may be another reason why Mephisto needs her and a door for Marvel to the Multiverse. And that's how Wandavision will be connected with Doctor Strange and Spiderman 3
We all are waiting for the three spidermen to meet together in the new movie but how are they going to make it without the Multiverse. And it is confirmed that Wanda will play a big role in Doctor Strange 2 while Doctor Strange will play a big role in Spiderman. Wandavision is only a beginning and there's something big waiting for us further
And finally, whose big cameo are we going to see in the last episode? Both Paul Bettany and Elizabeth Oksen said that there will be a shocking cameo and Paul said that its not Evan Peters and this is an actor that he wanted to play with for a long time. I have a few options
1. This is the easiest one. Doctor Strange. It is very easy to imagine him in Wandavision, especially due to everything Wanda did. But Paul already worked with him and it would be too obvious so I don't think its him
2. Magneto. I know, sounds weird. But here me out. Magneto is actually a cameo that will shock everybody and he and Pietro actually have an unfinished father/son deal. Magneto would be an awesome way for Marvel to bring mutants to their universe and also pretty logical, die to Evan Peters in the show
3. Deadpool. That's also delusional but not impossible. Marvel wants to introduce Deadpool in the MCU and let's not forget the last time we saw Deadpool in the movies. When he went back in time!
4. Loki. This is the one I'm waiting for. So maybe, since he works for TVA so maybe they send him there so that Wanda won't ruin all the timelines and realities with what she's doing. That would be awesome, considering all the shows should be connected
That's all I wanted to say, thank you for reading all that ranting. Until next friday!
#wanda marvel#marvel#wandavision#wanda maximoff#wanda and pietro#vision x wanda#wandavison spoilers#wandaviz#wanda maximov#evan peters#peter maximoff#pietro maximoff#pietro maximov#vision#theories
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Much like the movie (and I'm ignoring the sequel except for some very cherry-picked things), their success over Syndrome is what convinced SHIELD that maybe there's something to the whole superhero thing.
The cliffnotes version is this (under a read more thingy because mild spoilers):
-Superpowered people have always existed, but they weren't too common before the 20th century, and they certainly weren't as notorious. Aside from a few exceptions, heroes were kind of a once in a century sort of deal, and most thought of them as urban legends and myths (talking about the mundane world, as magical communities have had a lot more going on on this front).
-As the Earth's population exploded, the phenomenon grew steadily too until it became A Thing when Steve Rogers became Captain America - his existence and success proved that humanity had a whole lot more potential than anyone really knew, for good or ill.
-Everyone and their mother tried to recreate Cap's success after WWII, to wildly varying levels of success. Some of these experiments resulted in superpowered people trickling down into the general populace - the superhero archetype wasn't quite here yet, but vigilante activity certainly saw a rise.
-The 60s and 70s saw an explosion in the mutant population - for the first time, superpowered people were relatively commonplace, and equally as inspiring as they could be terrifying. Public opinion was highly divided, which culminated in Magneto and the Brotherhood delivering an ultimatum that forced the WSC to sit down at the table, eventually resulting in the creation of Genosha. As you might imagine, a lot of non-mutant superpowered people got caught in the crossfire, and vigilante activity died down again.
-Seeing the success of the X-Men (and the Brotherhood), and spearheaded by Nick Fury, SHIELD decided to put together their own super team. Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne were part of this team (side note, I can't believe What If...? beat me to the 80s Avengers concept, though the team members in mine are pretty different). They had middling success, and Janet's "death" tore the initiative apart.
-They shifted focus to guiding existing vigilantes while downplaying their public presence until Bob's incident led to pretty much a ban on superpowered activities and vigilantism through all of the 90s and half the 2000s, until the Incredibles' victory against Syndrome (and Director Carter having retired and left the reins to Fury) convinced them it might be time to believe in heroes once again.
-In 2010, Tony Stark became Iron Man, and the rest is (ongoing) history.
I was reading the BH6 story and was kinda confused over the Incredibles being called a cameo? Does that mean that the Parr family exist here in the same format as canon, or are they very different?
I went back and forth on it a couple times in the planning stages - originally, they were going to be in there exactly the way they’re portrayed in the movie, decades in the past as an example of superheroes existing in some form or another since Captain America led the charge, then I thought it seemed a bit silly to include them, especially with the growing focus on the Fantastic Four, then I figured what the hell, I can do whatever I want and I love the first movie too much not to include them in some way. So yes, the idea is that Helen and Bob were active as vigilantes in the late 80s, Bob’s incident prompted a forced early retirement in 1990 - and more generally SHIELD enforced a stricter control (pretty much a ban) on superhuman activity that lasted more or less until the mid-2000s.
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Magneto's Kids
Chapter 7
Wanda is by far the smartest of Erik's children so, of course, she has all honors classes, which means she has to study a lot. The week before a test she'll lock herself in her room with her notes and books. She refuses to come out for anything, so Erik put a mini fridge in her room so she wouldn't starve. Her brothers are always trying to get her to take a break but of course, she stubbornly refuses.
"Come on you've been stuck in that room for four days" Pietro started knocking on the door.
"Go away I'm trying to study" Wanda shouted as she grabbed another book. Pietro started knocking on the door at super speed for about an hour before he got tired and gave up. Peter's eyes shone as he got an idea.
"You know, I saw this thing where this guy moved his molecules fast he could phase throw walls" Pietro rolled his eyes.
"Was this in one of your comic books?" Peter nodded walking back from the door. "You realize this is never going to work" but Peter was already darting for the wall in less than the blink of an eye he crashed into the wall leaving a good-sized hole.
"PETER!!!!!!" Wanda's eyes turned red as her hands balled up into fists. 'That's not a good sign' Peter thought as he was surrounded by red energy.
"Wanda please just calm down I can explain" A blue streak darted past and in two seconds Pietro had placed the restraint bracelets on Wanda.
"Okay here's the deal sis, you are getting out of this room, you are going to relax and you are going to have fun," Pietro said grabbing her books and throwing them into a bag "And you can't have this back until you have four hours away from the house" Pietro threw the bag to Peter since he was the expert at hiding things. He hides Magneto's helmet at least once a day.
"I'll go to the library" Pietro shook his head "Movies?" Pietro nodded. Wanda sighed as she grabbed her coat. "Fine let's just get this over" Both speedsters cheered as they ran to the car.
"What movie do you want to see," Pietro asked as he pulled out of the driveway. Wanda carefully thought over this before she replied.
"Now you see me" Peter was happy he had wanted to see 'Now You See Me' ever since it came out Pietro was just glad it wasn't another love story.
"Okay we can go out for ice cream afterward" Pietro slowly pulled into the parking lot. Peter tried his best not to show how excited he was, this was his first time going anywhere with his older siblings.
Time skip
"That movie was amazing!" Peter shouted as they walked out of the theater. Wanda giggled at his childish behavior.
"Now is a pretty good time to go get ice cream," Pietro said dumping an empty mega-size popcorn bag in the trash. Peter nodded with enthusiasm.
"How can both of you still eat, you had a pack of gummies, two hot dogs, five candy bars, two large sodas, and a mega popcorn each" Wanda stared at them in shock.
"Super speed equals super metabolism" Peter pointed out as he darted for the car. By the time they got to the ice cream shop Wanda was ready for ice cream, she didn't get anything other than a drink at the theater to save room.
"Ok one Twinkie and cream icecream with strawberries, whipped cream, and chocolate syrup" Pietro announced as he handed Peter his ice cream "One raspberry cheesecake with chocolate chips and chocolate," he said handing Wanda her ice cream "And one coffee ice cream with chocolate and strawberries," Pietro said before taking a bite of his.
"Okay, I've got to admit this was a great idea" Wanda smiled as she took a bite of her ice cream.
"Hey, Peter did I ever tell you about the first time me and Wanda got Dad to eat ice cream?" Peter shook his head "When he first took a bite he loved it and started eating it way too fast, he got a brain freeze and thought he had been poisoned" Wanda nodded giggling.
"One time I was eating smarties and he thought I had taken drugs so he took me to the emergency room"They each took turns telling stories until about ten then they all went home curled up on the couch and played Go Fish until they fell asleep. Two days later Wanda got a hundred on the test and decided she would start taking more study
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LIVING for your Moira hate. PLEASE ramble about how much she sucks i will read every word
I literally cannot deal with her in comics or in the movies. I just can't. In fics she is good as a plot device but nothing more.
The woman comes up once every 10 years to fuck up Erik's life and then disappears off into the rainbow field of flowers she frolics in with Charles when they try to make him straight on occasion.
She is the reason Charles can't walk, she shot the gun. She is the reason Nina and Magda died, all of Apocalypse was her fault. She went down into that tomb and left it open for the sun to get into causing the shaking earth which caused the giant bucket to break free which Erik had to move to save the guy which led to him being exposed as Magneto. If she didn't have to stick her nose in everything they would have all been so much happier in their lives.
Even in the comics. Was it House of X and Powers of X where she just keeps coming back to life, popping up and ruining everyone's life and then reincarnating? Like some groundhogs day situation like hold on just form in Charles' life when he's younger. No? Older? No? Don't show up at all? and it always fails.
The character's only true ability is the power to fuck everything up and be the character to stand between Charles and Erik because it's not gay if there's a woman involved, right?
...That last bit was just how I felt through the entirety of Inferno. It was like they would just have to go in and put Moira between Charles and Erik constantly. The whole storyline of the two of them keeping her on Karoka with no one else noticing. It was just strange and I think it could have been solved by eliminating her...for all the cat-like lives she has left.
#at this point it's not even about cherik#like she ruined his life with nina and her mother too#why can't moira let Erik be happy?#why is it always him?#why do people no see that it's her that keeps doing this?#why am i so upset about comic and movie characters?#the world may never know#in this essay i will-
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Okay one more counterpoint-
((Transcript: Tags on the previous post that say "It's not that the helmet is METAL it's that it's a specific type of metal))
((Transcript: a paragraph that reads "What is Magneto's helmet made of?" and the answer, "1 Answer. In the comic canon, Magneto's helmet is made out of whatever metals Magneto has available. Any strong metal appears to be usable. Note: he doesn't need the helmet to protect his mind from being read."))
The poster who wrote this answer goes on to elaborate that it's actually Magneto's magnetic fields that prevent Xavier from reading his mind- which I have NEVER seen said anywhere, but it seems like a lot of people agree that his fields can at least dampen telepathic effects.
I distinctly remember in my own comic experience that Magneto made his helmet out of a solid block of iron (obviously this isn't true of all Magnetos but- you know, the point is that just like the "the helmet is electric and can actively disrupt psychic control by putting out waves that counter the telepathic abilities like a pair of noise canceling headphones" theory, this has an issue of not being true in ALL comic universes.)
Vibranium doesn't stop psychic attacks on its own, adamantium doesn't, and iron definitely doesn't, or else Prof X (who can't read or find Magneto's mind even using Cerebro) wouldn't be able to read minds through a lot of buildings- unLESS you're trying to say the purity of the iron is what prevents him from reading Magneto's mind in that most buildings are composed of steel which is an iron alloy. At that point, I would argue that the giant gaping hole provided for Magneto's face should still allow him to read his mind if a little "carbon bond" is enough to let the professor in, but I digress-
Let's approach the "magnetic fields block out Xavier" and just say that's equally ridiculous because magnetic fields are produced in large part by electrical currents and Cerebro is a BIG ELECTRIC CURRENT sitting on the professor's head.
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Look if y'all want a real opinion on this "plothole," as funny as I think is- I think it's just an extension of "tinfoil hats blocking out mind control by either aliens or the US government" which has been a common idea since the 1930s and saw a resurgence in the forties and sixties. Also- the original X-Men didn't have Wolverine in them, so it wasn't as big of a deal.
Hell, it's still not a big deal, and I do think it's funny that people continue to defend bad comic book science as much as they do. If I wrote a funny post on how Superman couldn't REALLY go back in time by spinning the Earth in reverse, would people fight me this vigorously? Where's my new Superman movie defending the logic and science behind spinning the earth backwards to rewind time because actually Lex Luthor made a time travel device that needs clockwise exposure to sunlight to charge?
magneto can create force fields and levitate by supposedly strengthening and riding magnetic waves, but he can also stop bullets (which are not made of a ferromagnetic material, but rather lead) meaning he may just have telekinesis and fooled himself into thinking he can only move metals through the power of assumption and placebo- in this essay i will-
#okay i think this'll be the last time i reblog this post#btw this isn't meant to be like- petty and hateful toward people who tried to defend the funky little metal man#i know a lot of people are just commenting facts different authors have slapped into place to cope with the fact that jack kirby and stan l#ee probably didn't think through this as much as you are#meta content#magneto#not meme
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