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And here's me laughing that some Turians will one day practice Buddhism while the Olympians remain stuck on Earth.
Zeus absolutely seething with rage after reading the Codex entry
#ask box#anon ask#kryptonverse#“i can't believe they don't want to worship a bunch of sexy humans with lots of issues”
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Oh having the MV come in would be awesome. There's Ben, immune from the retcons, and questioning why everyone suddenly thinks that Godzilla emerged from the Hudson to fight the Chitauri while Thanos notes both Earth and Caminus fielded Titans to defeat him.
King Ghidorah falls from the skies like a golden cosmic storm wreathed in thunder and flame, promising unparalleled destruction not just from his planetfall, but from his inevitable duel with his nuclear nemesis, the Monster Who Ate a Star, the King of all Kaiju - Godzilla.
"Please tell me this is a dream. Or maybe an incredibly elaborate promo for a Godzilla reboot."
Director Brand gives Ben an odd look. "As much as I'd like to say otherwise, I don't think there's a five hundred foot tall and 140,000 ton man in there, Ben. That is a very real three-headed space dragon headed straight for the nearest available landmark."
"Welp. Guess it's one of those cases, huh?" -he shakes his head in resignation, then activates the Omnitrix to consider his opening move for what's sure to be a battle for the ages. "Oh, well. Dibs on Kevin?"
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This is a random question, because I recently got back into DragonBall, but if the krypton verse were somehow subjected to a Tournament of Power like in DBS, which ten fighters would be most likely selected. If it makes it easier, we can just say whoever is picking the team is lazy like Beerus and just picks the obvious candidates instead of scouring the depths of your various fandoms.
(in case you don’t know what I’m talking about, the rules are that the teams fight on a big arena in the Void. You’re out if you are knocked out, and it’s actually a battle royal instead of a tournament, No killing, no weapons (though that one can be ignored) and since the definition of god is a bit tricky, we’ll just say that no one involved in the management of the universe can compete, someone like Thor is fine. Also no restoratives like healing potions or temporary enhancements.
I'll pick only from "confirmed" characters (already appeared or were mentioned).
Supergirl, Thor, The Hulk, Captain Marvel, Ben 10 (I'm assuming the temporary enhancements rule means external stuff, since I know the various Saiyan forms are allowed, and Ben's transformations have become a part of him as bearer of the Omnitrix, till he dies), Broly, She-Ra, Vilgax, Doctor Strange, and probably Doctor Doom himself.
Honorable mentions include Sailor Moon (I think she might be too inconsistent for a dedicated tournament setting), Danny Phantom (incredible utility, but lacking in physical strength and durability), Iron Man (till he's got an adamantium suit or something, he's kind of a glass canon among the heavy hitters, and also I'm not sure his suit would be allowed to begin with), Gwen Tennyson (if she'd mastered her Anodite powers at the time), Hercules (if they figure out a way for him to be able to fight off Earth), and Thanos (if he can be somehow convinced, lol).
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I know the point of the universal meld was to keep them as close to canon as possible, but has there been any noticeable change in some characters thanks to the fusion or any obvious butterfly effect?
Some off the top of my head.
Regarding the world:
-SHIELD is a lot bigger and has more influence in the Kverse than it did in the MCU, for better or worse. There's any number of hidden projects and weapons derived from non-Marvel entities and concepts that I haven't even alluded to yet.
-There's a similar story with SWORD, though this is more due to the relationship with the Kree Empire through Hala. Abigail's been able to procure a lot of goodies that, even if they can't propel Earth centuries ahead, should at least give us a decent edge in a fight if the worst comes to pass.
-The Moon is a lot more storied, having housed the Silver Millenium, the Inhuman realm of Attilan, Pink Diamond's original base of operations, a SWORD base, and now a Bounty Hunter's Guild outpost throughout its history.
-There's obviously a lot more magical stuff in general, of all sorts, but also a lot more backlash towards it from scared, mundane humans. Even now, there's oodles more magical beings than there ever were in the MCU, but they exist in insular communities, largely cut off from one another, thanks to centuries of anti-magic crusades courtesy of groups like the Forever Knights and their allies.
-It felt like the Masters of the Mystic Arts were pretty isolated sorcerer monks in the MCU with little, if any connection to the other magical spheres. They serve a more SHIELD-like role in the Kverse - just, y'know, not nearly as militaristic - providing much needed diplomacy and conflict resolution between the isolated magical realms and protecting them from factions that would seek their destruction. They're kinda like Jedi before the Clone Wars (and with some of the same flaws, too).
Regarding the characters:
-An important part of Kara's story is figuring out she's actually underpowered, and really, subconsciously holding herself back from the true strength and wide range of abilities of a Kryptonian under yellow sun conditions. You might infer that she was initially mirroring the perceived power level of the world around her (though there's some standouts, certainly).
-Tony's at least partially connected to a bunch of non-Marvel figures simply by virtue of being born into incredible wealth. All rich people know each other, on some level. I'd say he's also a little less reckless and short-sighted (but more paranoid), just because he's more aware of just how many powerful figures could easily change the status quo - good, bad, and everything in between. He'd be less inclined to go out in a blaze of fire, at least until he's reasonably sure other people could pick up the torch.
-While not fully tethered to Earth like the Olympians are, Thor's a lot more of an actual god than he is in the MCU. He can feel the belief directed at him, even if it doesn't sustain him, for example, and more generally I've strived to move away from the "Asgard and the Nine Realms aren't actually magic, just really advanced tech" angle of the earlier phases in the MCU. There's a high (equivalent) tech level, don't get me wrong, but their powers are magical in nature first and foremost.
-I think Steve's a little less jaded about the modern world, but also less patient with people who would do it harm, intentionally or otherwise. Like, I don't think Nick Fury would find it prudent to show him a secret helicarrier armada, for example, even to gain his trust. He's inspired by people living their truth and embracing each other in a way that would be pretty unimaginable in the 40s, but disappointed at authority figures for running a society no less unbalanced and disjointed than he left it (just in different ways).
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Almost done with the first Magnus Chase book, I find it interesting that there's kind of...an intriguing ugliness to it that isn't really there in the other Riordanverse books I've read. It feels a little more willing to engage with the weirdness, the cruelty, the lack of empathy often found in mythology, but also in modern society.
Didn't really expect that side of it (which, in retrospect, I should've, with its whole "homeless teen protagonist that dies in the first few dozen pages" premise)
#personal#i will say#some of the edginess does have me rolling my eyes#just a bit#magnus' internal monologue is a bit more hit and miss for me than most other riordanverse protagonists#i guess this is also#kryptonverse#i've had to rework my master plan a bit for including magnus and co#but not as much as i feared (yet)#magnus chase and the gods of asgard
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If Doom and Reed brought in Battlestar Galactica, would that give the Olympians a cosmic foothold?
Sorry to disappoint, but I don't really know anything about Battlestar Galactica :( if you have some additional context I could make an educated guess?
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Would the screams of the Titans affect the other Kverse magics?
It wouldn't completely cancel them out, like it does for the Collectors, but a Titan's scream would have a disruptive effect if it directly interacts with other kinds of magic, yeah. Sorta like having an orchestra playing music with all the instruments in unison and suddenly some guy in the audience brings out a trombone they've never played in their life and starts belting out discordant noises.
EDIT: I forgot to mention, but part of my "homework" during this impromptu hiatus has been to define and set in stone what the various schools and styles of magic in the Kverse are (sorry, anon who sent that ask back in december, I promise I didn't ignore you), the various sapient and non-sapient magical creatures that exist in the setting, and as many notable interactions between them as I can identify. Questions like this one help with that, so please don't hesitate to ask!
#ask box#anon ask#kryptonverse#i'll publish the doc when i deem it ready enough#it is currently 25 pages long#...i may have a problem
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Oh just make Ben a Godzilla truther. Some lunatic who thinks Toho staged the entire thing for post-war sympathy points. He is kind of a moron after all.
I don't know about the sympathy points angle, but I do love the idea of Ben - who's largely protected from the retcons by the Omnitrix - having a conspiratorial streak to him because what the hell do you mean Godzilla is an actual giant monster and not just a guy in a suit trampling a miniaturized Tokyo
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If Prime chipped all five Paladins, would the Lions obey him?
Cool question; I think the Lions are definitely independent and powerful enough to shrug off any direct psionic assault through the pilot-Lion bond, but they would probably not refuse their pilots’ commands unless it went directly against their ethos. Like, they could be used to cause destruction, but not kill innocents.
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Do all Terran magic users (besides Eldritch Magic and Gwen) need to be on Earth for their powers to work? Because, while I don't mean to question R&D's all-seeing wisdom, that seems a major handicap to bolster Earth's strength if most arcane additions can't fight off-planet.
I’ve been speaking of Greco-Roman demigods specifically, but the rule of thumb is, if the font of your magical power can’t reach you, you can’t perform magical feats directly based on it.
For Greek demigods, that means that the “active” powers they get from their divine parents (as opposed to passive stuff, like their physical enhancements or the ability to intrinsically understand Ancient Greek) fades away until they return to Earth. Egyptian Magicians can perform their brand of magic anywhere, as their spellcasting works off the interplay between Order and Chaos (unbound forces that transcend human reckoning), but their ability to channel the gods’ specific powers and interact with them also fades with distance from the planet. The Norse would theoretically have significantly wider range, able to spellcast anywhere in the Nine Realms, but due to the metaphysical nature of Yggdrasil, only a portion of the Worlds’ Tree interacts with the material world. A witch, descended from the priest to a god of magic, could spellcast anywhere, as even though her magic is divine in origin, the latent blessing that enables it remains within her, permeating her being.
The rule is the same, but it interacts with the various magic systems in different ways; it’s true that it ends up nerfing a lot of magic users off world, but think about it: why on earth would a demigod need to fight in space? Barring some teleportation or similar shenanigans, the gods have a vested interest in keeping their agents (or y’know, children) planetside, where their spheres of influence - and their goals, whatever they may be - reside. And even if they do end up off-world for some reason, it’s not like it’s all lost; Nico might not be able to control the dead or blast chthonic energy from his hands beyond Earth, but his skill with a blade wouldn’t be hampered in the slightest - and his sword’s own inherent powers would be similarly unaffected. The stakes would be there, but so would options and workarounds.
(I do appreciate the comment about R&D, and I guess the faith placed in them, but they’re definitely not infallible! Not just as characters but because of yours truly, haha. It’s like writing the Riddler - he may be a certified super genius on paper, but realistically, he’s only ever gonna be as smart as the people writing him. I’m gonna miss stuff here and there, despite my best efforts - I’d say a good 25% of the questions I answer here I’d never considered in the slightest, which is why I appreciate the perspective you guys bring)
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who amongst the olympians would you say has the longest range?
It's a collective sort of deal, it's the same range for all of them!
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Could Maiden powers pass to beings outside of Remnant if they still meet the conditions?
Not yet! They could pass to people from beyond Remnant, if they happened to visit at the time, but they can't "exit" the realm. Remnant would have to somehow be in the real world for that to happen.
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The anticipation over what the hell is going on with the other Asgardian's has me going crazy. Tho I'll bet money on Other Odin being the better version of the old man lmao.
Haha, I apologize for the unintentional teasing!! One of the upcoming Vantage one-shots touches on this topic a little bit, so hopefully you don't have to wait much longer to at least get an idea of what's happening
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Is the Azmuth AI also immune to the cosmic retcons?
He should be, but it's not always the case because the Omnitrix enjoys messing with its creator. I guess you could say he's selectively immune.
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You've explained that Asgardians don't utilize the power they get from mortal faith, but does this mean they are unable to overall or do they just not find a use for it?
They can feel it, but they're not naturally equipped to make use of it; they would have to magically entangle it with their own souls, which is...spoiler territory, but I can tell you Odin was pretty keen on figuring out behind the scenes.
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Considering this is a universe that doesn't have to stick to a comic status quo, will we be seeing actual power development? (Ex Tony keeping suite upgrades, Cap actually using things besides his shield, Storm learning magic, ect?)
Some characters more than others, but definitely! The idea is to strive for a balance between the growth of their toolkit and the recognizable core of the characters; Cap isn't gonna be flying around with jet boots or anything like that, but the magnet gauntlet thingy he had in Age of Ultron, maybe a backup hard light shield or deployable vambraces like the vibranium ones he gets in Infinity War...hell even an ICER might not be a bad idea, since he's no stranger to guns (but strives not to kill if possible).
A character like Thor, on the other hand, as a 1500 year-old god, would see very little change, if any - any upgrades would have to be caused by a tremendous shift in his status quo, like losing Mjolnir or getting an arm cut off like the comics version.
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