#Holocaust trivialization

[justinspoliticalcorner]

Eric Hananoki at MMFA:

Numerous Project 2025 groups have claimed over the years that abortion is comparable to or even worse than the Holocaust. Those partners have called abortion the “American Holocaust”; said that “someday, abortion will be viewed historically as a modern-day Holocaust, maybe even worse”; and claimed that “America’s holocaust against the unborn makes Hitler’s holocaust pale in comparison.” 

Project 2025 is an extreme right-wing initiative headed by The Heritage Foundation that’s been crafting policy proposals and recruiting personnel for the next conservative administration. The project’s proposals include extreme rollbacks to reproductive rights, including access to surrogacy, IVF, mifepristone, and contraception.  The initiative is closely tied to former President Donald Trump and running mate JD Vance, who wrote the foreword for Project 2025 architect Kevin Roberts’ book.  The project has over 100 partner groups, including organizations that have continued to signal that they want to criminalize abortion. Media Matters recently documented that numerous Project 2025 groups have also pushed the false claim that abortions are never medically necessary.  Numerous Project 2025 partner groups have spent years claiming that abortion is comparable to or even worse than the Holocaust. Here is a look at those claims, which were made both before and after the formation of Project 2025. 

Numerous groups partnered with Project 2025 have trivialized the horrors of the Holocaust by claiming that abortion is either akin to or worse than the Holocaust.

[demintria]

My sister rewatched The Fault in Our Stars, and I forgot how bad the Anne Frank house part was. I wasn't prepared for the holocaust trivialization.

[newnitz]

Poles don't erase Jewish trauma because you see it as a threat to your victimhood challenge: failed

i’m fucking losing it

[mental-mona]

Wtaf?! Why does this EXIST?! How can this lady claim it's all in fun and she didn't mean to upset anyone?!

[chaiaurchaandni]

[edenfenixblogs]

Reblog 3: Antisemitism

Sorry I don’t have time to alt text. But @burning-sol if you still want to, feel free.

Todays screenshots or of antisemitic interactions I’ve had or witnessed or public commentary that I’ve seen go u challenged.

Ah yes, we have “enlightened” leftists offering the extremely unique and super unheard-of takes that there was nothing complex about the Holocaust (something I’ve never heard a single Jewish person claim) and that Jews (oh, I mean (((Zionists))) ) control the media and have control over “most western institutions.” Barf.

Next we have a series of replies to this tweet which claims that an advertisement run by an American organization devoted exclusively to combatting the 400% rise in antisemitism was actually a tactic from (((them))) to distract from the bombings in Rafah, because of (once again) the underlying assumptions that Jews control the media and also have vast conspiratorial control over world affairs. The advertisement was, to be completely clear, from an American organization devoted to combatting antisemitism, did not mention Israel once, featured MLK Jr.’s speechwriter (Clarence B. Jones), and featured peaceful interactions between Jews and Muslims. And yet this tweet still implies that Israel is behind the advertisement itself as well as the timing of exactly when the advertisement aired. Furthermore, the tweet implies that the message of preventing antisemitism is not ok in the Super Bowl because there was anti-black racism against Black athletes who also attempted to advocate for the value of their own lives. Interesting, because I would classify both forms of activism worthy causes and the backlash against both to be terrible. These causes don’t invalidate each other in any way. Why would Black Lives Matter any less or more than Jewish lives? And why would anyone assume that Jews feel this way? Oh right. Antisemitism.

Unless of course OP was talking about the advertisement that WAS run by Israel, which ran the apparently controversial opinion that said that Hamas’s hostages should be returned home. I think it’s super weird that anyone would take issue with this, unless they think that Hamas is representative of the Palestinian people and that Hamas is not a terrorist organization.

I, for one, happen to think that Palestinian civilians are not interchangeable with Hamas.

I believe Palestinian civilians do not want violent assaults and murders and kidnappings to happen to Jewish people, because I do not believe that Palestinian people are inherently murderous or violent.

I think it’s super weird that people who claim to support Palestinians seem to have such horrid opinions of Palestinians.

As you can see one Twitter user finds this funny and would like to add that Jews who happen to be Israeli (or possibly all Jews. Hard to tell who they mean by “them”) should be cooked—a disturbing comment that is a clear dog whistle to Jews being burned alive in ovens during the Holocaust.

More reactions included more blatant claims that Jews control the media via Israel and also through in a random Jeffery Epstein remark clearly intended to invoke the age-old blood libel conspiracy. Because apparently condemning all Jews based on the actions of the worse of us is ok, even though we all understand this is wrong and not acceptable for any other group.

More antisemitism under the cut

Some of it is still about the Super Bowl:

But a whole lot isn’t

Some of it accuses all Jews who support any civil rights or social justice of doing so for sinister and ulterior motives. A bedrock of the antisemitic idea of a sneaky Jew who must never be trusted.

Relatedly, some of the antisemitism related to this same trope asserts that all Jews belong in Hell, and also that I guess Palestine is also somehow fake? So is this also Islamophobic. Not sure what’s going on here exactly???? But it sure does involve hating Jews!

And then, of course, there’s the idea that Jews DESERVE antisemitism—which also includes the Islamophobic assumption that all Palestinians despise Jews. This one confuses me. Are people who argue this saying that they agree with Palestinians because all Jews are categorically bad? Because, if so, I don’t think anyone arguing this way can claim not to be antisemitic. But a lot of people do claim not to be antisemitic. But it also seems inescapably Islamophobic as well. So…??? What’s the cognitive dissonance here? What are they arguing for exactly? What is it that they want to happen? Do they want all Palestinians to kill all Jews in the Levant for being war criminals? Because I thought these people hated genocide? Or is it not genocide if it happens to Jews? Either way, the fundamental assumptions seem to be based on the notion that hating all Jewish people is OK or that hating Jews does not matter, because Jews are not people.

Someone sent me an article they found posted at their local Starbucks. Featuring this astounding claim of Holocaust inversion.

For the record, Bob Akavian is a leader of the Revolutionary Communist Party which is strongly influenced by Maoism.

It is interesting that someone who supports Mao would have a problem with any amount of death caused by a perceived dictator, considering the legacy that Mao himself left:

And that’s the ten images I’m allowed this time. Unfortunately, I have many more instances of antisemitism and the Jewish experience thereof to post, so I shall be back.

I am experiencing a lot of antisemitism due to the ongoing conflict and I would like it to stop, please.

[immaculatasknight]

It's "complicated".

[gorillawithautism]

i would like to point out that in order to believe comparing palestinian genocide to hiroshima, bosnian genocide, the holocaust, armenian genocide, etc would be trivializing those events, you must first believe palestinian genocide is trivial in itself.

palestinian lives are not expendable. get that through your head before you start talking down to them and their supporters.

[xclowniex]

If you believe that hews are crying antisemitism over nothing and that we are making antisemitism up, congratulations you are now participating in white supremacy!

There is the antisemitic dog whistle annudah shoah, which is meant to mock a Yiddish accent saying "another shoah". Shoah is a Hebrew word commonly used to refer to the holocaust.

Annudah shoah is meant to mock jews who call out antisemitism. The people who use it, do so because they think that jews are making a big deal out of nothing, and/or are lying about antisemitism. It was created by white supremists

If you believe jews are either lying about antisemitism or are yelling "antisemitism at trivial matters" you are using the same logic as white supremists.

You can read more about the dog whistle here.

[tamlindudley]

“The holocaust is very specific” is one of the dumbest fucking takes ever. Millions of people are rolling in their mass graves when they hear this. It’s specific only in the way that JEWS were killed. The entire world is built on white supremacy and occupation and Holocaust is only one example of it. There are several races and religions who suffered genocide around the world.

DO NOT NEGATE THE REST OF THE WORLD’S SUFFERING BECAUSE YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR HISTORY SOUND SPECIAL.

So I guess “Never Again” doesn’t mean the same thing to Zionist Jews, as it does to me, bc while I had been saying “Never Again” my whole life to mean we can never allow this to happen to ANYONE ever again, Zionists just meant this can never happen to us again.

The legacy of the Holocaust is so important to Jewish history, and if you never paid attention to learning the warning signs that a genocide is happening, then I guess it’s easy to ignore it when the ethnostate you’re blindly supporting is pumping you full of propaganda.

Anyways, as a Jew who is a semester away from having my first degree in political science, I just have to say, From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free. And fuck Israel

[thewebcomicsreview]

As per the ask you got in may .What did tatsuya ishida say about the Holocaust ?Or draw ?im high right now

I can't really do a day-to-day on Sinfest even if I wanted to because it's increasingly just racist caricatures that'd get be banned for posting them, even to mock, but to quickly summarize where it's at since you asked politely and are in the right headspace to receive this information.

Tatsuya Ishida now worships Odin. Like, unironically he has a whole arc about how the Jews overthrew the Norse gods, who are the true gods, in order to impose monotheism on the world. I don't have as much knowledge on the inner workings of neo-nazis as I probably should be (there's a sentence for 2024, isn't it?), but they're super into all this Norse shit, which is why a lot of white supremacists like to use Norse symbols, like the Valknot, a set of three interlocking triangles.

That one, yeah.

(Not to be confused with the Triquetra that's' all over Jill's design in LoTH, which is also an old rune but mostly is just used as design shorthand for "Celtic" and hasn't been appropriated by Nazis because it doesn't have enough sharp angles for their sensibilities, but that is a Celtic cross in panel 3 up there to remind me there's a non-trivial chance I have to take LotH down one day over this. Sigh.)

Anyway, the year 2024 is burned as a witch, which stops time, which revives her as a Valkyrie because Odin is the true god and thus timeless. You may have noticed that doesn't make any fucking sense, but we are long since past the point where that matters. So, 2024 is fighting YHWH now.

No no, not the puppet guy that's been god this whole time! That's old Sinfest, which has no connection to modern Sinfest any more. God has been redesigned to be a racist stereotype stuck to a wall

I probably don't need to blur this but I'm not taking chances. Anyway this strip is important because it's Tatsuya Ishida explicitly calling for violence against Jewish people and saying it's justified because Jews are behind everything bad that has ever happened (earlier strips literally have the Happy Merchant appear and say that Jews are behind black people, communism, the gays, school shootings, and "assassinations". Basically everything Tats doesn't like is because of those wacky Jews, keeping themselves busy).

And one of YHWH's attacks is summoning "holocusts" and...yeah. Tats thinks the holocaust didn't happen, but that it should happen, and is at the point of saying so explicitly. We haven't seen a swastika yet, but we're at the point where it wouldn't even matter if we did. Tatsuya Ishida is a White Supremacist Neopagan worshiper of Odin who wants to kill all Jewish people. That's not an accusation I'm making, Tats says it himself.

[dailyanarchistposts]

In last EF! Journal (Yule, 1990), Chris Manes responds to the question "Why are you a misanthrope?" by saying "Why aren't you one?" After all, humans have a 10,000 year history of massacres, wars, ecocide, holocaust, etc., so the burden of proof is on us non-misanthropes.

I would like to respond to Manes' challenge, and my answer has nothing to do with humanism, anthropocentrism, or the belief that humans are a "higher" life form. Unlike Murray Bookchin, I reject that claim from the git-go. I believe in biocentrism, and think that all life forms are equal. I agree that human population is totally out of control. And I am as appalled as any misanthrope at the havoc that humans have wreaked on the natural world.

But I disagree with Manes' conclusion that the problem is "humankind." You cannot blame the destruction of the earth on, for example, the Quiche tribes of Guatemala or the Penan of Malaysia. These people have lived in harmony with the earth for 10,000 years. The only way you could identify the earth's destroyers as "humankind" would be to exempt such people from the category of "human." Otherwise you would have to admit that it is not humans-as-a-species, but the way certain humans live, that is destroying the earth.

Manes briefly acknowledges that these ecologically sound human cultures exist, but he dismisses them as trivial because "the fact is most of the world now mimics our dissolute ways." This statement completely ignores the manner in which "most of the world" was forced to abandon their indigenous cultures or be destroyed. You cannot equate the slave and the slave-master. Only after massacres, torture, ecocide and other unspeakable brutality did the peoples of the world acquiesce to the conquering hordes with their culture of greed and destruction.

Technocratic man, with his linear view of the world, tends to see tribal societies as earlier, less evolved forms of his own society, rather than as alternative, simultaneously existing methods of living on the earth. The presumption is that, given time, these cultures would somehow be corrupted like ours. But there is no evidence whatsoever that these ancient civilizations would have changed without our violent intervention. So it is not humans, but industrial-technocratic societies, that are destroying the earth.

In the same manner that misanthropy blames all humans for the crimes of the industrial/technocratic society, so does it blame all humans for the crimes of men. The list of atrocities for which Manes condemns the human race—massacres, wars, ecocide, holocaust—are not the work of women. Of course a few women can be found and paraded out who participate in the male power structure. But by and large, throughout history, wars and atrocities have been the territory of men. And the societies that engage in them have been run by men, in the interest of men, and against the interests of women. By categorizing as "human" traits which are actually male, misanthropes are being androcentric (male-centered) instead of biocentric (life-centered) as they claim to be. Vandana Sheeva of the Chipko movement in India put it best. She said the problem is not humans. It is white, technocratic men who are destroying the earth.

So misanthropy is not a form of humility, as Chris Manes says. It is a form of arrogance. By blaming the entire human species for the crimes of white, technocratic men, Manes conveniently avoids any real analysis of who is responsible for the death of the planet. Not surprisingly, Manes himself is a member of the group that most benefits from our consumptive society—privileged white urban men.

If the purpose of philosophy is just to play mind games, then misanthropy can be seen as provocative or enticing. But if the purpose of philosophy is to help us analyze the crisis we are in so that we can try to find solutions, misanthropy fails. It preserves the status quo by refusing to distinguish between oppressor and oppressed. It goes against one of the basic instincts of all life forms, preservation of the species. And, without contributing anything of value to an analysis of the problem, it alienates us from the people we need to work with to bring about change—people whose ideas are grounded in reality and experience, not in college textbooks.

[newnitz]

Not to mention "preceded by 5 years of rapidly demonizing and slowly de-emancipating Jews and Romani(who, being stateless, are still treated like shit across the continent), the historic ethnic punching bags of Europe, with the entire West refusing to give these refugees an out(see the Evian committee. Dominicans and Costa Ricans, you're exempt, be proud), shoved into tight ghettos and intentionally starved before the Nazis decided that slow agonizing deaths and firing squads are just too inefficient".

And then they don't understand why we're freaking out when we see the exact same demonization happening now.

I've already discussed uprooting my bf(who has strong roots in Europe) to Israel in case the de-emancipation angle starts getting pressed in as well. For example, by it being legal not to hire Jews(unless they perform a denouncement of all things Jewish). We didn't have that option in 1933. And now the world wants to take it away, to leave us as stateless refugees vulnerable to another industrial genocide.

a lot of y’all don’t actually know anything abt the holocaust outside of “it happened and a lot of ppl died” which is why it’s so easy for you to compare literally every bad thing that ever happens to the holocaust.

[edenfenixblogs]

I recently received the following message from a (former?) friend of mine:

okay I am being so genuine right now: since you seem to have educated yourself on what is bothering jewish people about the pro-palestine movement, /what/ is it. I genuinely cannot see and have not interacted with any pro-palestine activists that have actively advocated for the murder of jewish people. I have seen Israelis who have justified the breaking of the truce to bomb Palestinians returning to north gaza. Note I said Israelis and not Jews.

I responded by essentially saying that there's a lot there and I'll need some time to compile and articulate.

I mention this in order to ask if you (or any of your followers/any Jewish tumblr users reading this) have anything specific you'd like to point me toward (search keywords/starting points, links, thoughts, interpret however) that's not already on the list of what i'm planning to discuss (included after this paragraph), anything you specifically want me to read, suggestions of where to place emphasis, or any stories or thoughts you'd like me to pass on to him directly.

current tentative list i'm planning on going over with him, in no particular order:

clarification of scope of conversation (specific to non-jewish western left rather than on the ground or from affected groups)

dual loyalty accusations and harrassment of random jews that have nothing to do with medinat israel

taking discussion of antisemitism in bad faith by default

opportunistic use of the issue by more active antisemites, broad failure to to recognize when that's occuring

uncritical sharing of dogwhistles, conspiratorial thinking

outsiders and newcomers attempting to speak on the matter with authority we don't have

neglect of fact-checking and widespread mis- and disinformation

tokenization of antizionist jews and "jews" - jvp in particular i need to look into more

glorification of hamas and disregard for israeli civilians

misuse, misunderstanding, and demonization of zionism

application of western frameworks of colonization when not applicable

binary good guys/bad guys framing, contrarianism, taking "sides"

might talk about bds e.g. the whole boston map thing but not yet confident on this one, need to do a lot more digging

denial of jewish history - focus on denial of eretz israel as the jewish homeland, holocaust inversion, treating absolutely anything but especially those as trivial or "so long ago"

treating or discussing jews and/or israelis as monolithic

double standards and singling out of israel, holding it as inherently more suspect or less legitimate than any other state

@faggotry-enjoyer Oh man! This is such a good ask!!!! I was going to wait until after work to answer, but your list is so good and so thorough that it relieves a lot of the work I’d have to do.

Some stuff I linked overlaps with your list but I wanted to provide links to these points when possible.

Another thing that bothers me in particular about the western leftist movements’ approach to pro-Palestine conversations (and more: I am critiquing their approach to supporting Palestine not their support itself):

The absolute inability for Jews anywhere to even discuss provocation from Hamas, the history of bombs coming into Israel out of Palestine, or any other act of aggression from Hamas. Anytime we try to discuss anything even remotely nuanced or historical we are told “there’s no excuse for genocide” or “I guess you just love killing Palestinian babies” when that’s not what we are saying at all. Or, more often, the assumption that we are flat out lying about Hamas’ tactics and use of human shields and Palestinian civilian suppression and their view of the disposability of Palestinian lives.

The blanket condemnation of Zionism without understanding that it is a complex philosophy with several movements and differing goals.

The complete lack of media literacy.

The specific dismissal of From the River to the Sea as a term stolen from a Palestinian civilians who desire to express hope in a fully free and equal future but people who use it explicitly to call for the death of Jews. And the weaponization of the phrase to make it a death threat to any Jew who points this out.

The lack of specificity in terms line “Free Palestine.” Yes, Palestinians deserve full and equal freedoms and representation in government. This is a wonderful thing that I support with my whole heart. But that doesn’t change the fact that many bad actors and antisemites are hiding within the Free Palestine movement who are specifically manipulating the phrase to imply free Palestine FROM JEWS—both in terms of their presence in the levant at all (which would entail yet another anti-Jewish ethnic cleansing) or simply the murder of the 7 million Jews who exist in Israel. So asking a Jew why they won’t shout “free Palestine!” At the top of their lungs is taken as a sign that western Jews don’t want Palestinian freedom. When actually it’s a refusal to call for their own deaths.

The assumption that western protest tactics are inherently useful in this conflict and the refusal to look to interfaith and intercultural organizations on the ground in I/P who have been doing this longer, better, and more effectively than western groups.

The focus of western efforts on naming one side a victor in this conflict rather than peace for all.

Not understanding how few Jews there are in the world. And relatedly, the dismissal of the fact that the destruction of the modern state of Israel with no solid plan for a shared Palestinian/Israeli solution would mean the loss of sovereignty for half the global Jewish population, which would indeed affect Jews worldwide.

Dismissal of Israeli leftist efforts to oust the Likud and Netanyahu, because it doesn’t fit the narrative of all Israeli Jews being evil.

The sharing of graphic content of 10/7 attacks, dead and injured Palestinian and Israeli children, and calling any victims martyrs without appropriate trigger warning and as a political tactic.

Mocking Jews (yes, even celebrities) who express feeling fearful for their personal safety as antisemitism rises worldwide.

The expulsion of Jews from their non-Jewish communities and friend groups.

Not understanding the magnitude of the Jewish diaspora and its affect on Jewish culture and voice during this conflict.

Other friends and Allies please add on with your own experiences and concerns!

[rweoutofthewoods]

Uh? Death eaters are quite literally that. They strongly believed in race supremacy, they wanted to murder and erradicate muggles and people that were not “pure” it’s n*zi ideology and actually a quite good example of what is so wrong with them and why it’s dangerous and terrible. Death eaters are that, maybe you just don’t like that you write about them idk but that’s what they are?. And calling them that is not bastardizing the word, it’s in fact a very accurate parallelism between reality and fiction.

Death eaters are not real. Period. The end.

Nazis are, they killed millions of people, the killed MY FAMILY. They wiped out the entire town we came from, my great grandmother and my great aunt are some of the few survivors, from an ENTIRE TOWN. So unless you can say the same you don’t get to tell me how should feel about the comparison. If you also happen to be Jewish and descended directly from holocaust survivors then we can have a respectful conversation about our differences in opinions. Otherwise keep this off my blog.

Calling fictional wizards Nazis to me personally, trivializes millions of people who suffered horrifically in real life, because death eaters Are. Not. Real. The ideology may be similar, but these are wizards, this is fake discrimination that jkr made up for fake people. And this isn’t even getting into the type of person jkr and all the harmful prejudices that exist within her.

I’m not policing what anyone else does, but on MY blog we’re not calling death eaters Nazis. If you don’t like that maybe consider why it offends you that I’d be uncomfortable with it.