#Himilayan rat

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This Himilayan baby I produced is such a sweetheart, omg. This is the first time I've held her and within 15 seconds she licked my hand and then curled up to fall asleep. I'm definitely keeping her. ❤️

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the signs as animals

arist: south african cheetah

aries: american black bear

argo: kordofan giraffe

arga: griffon vulture

arittanius: wildebeest

arittarius: yak

arpio: bowhead whale

arpia: african elephant

arlo: horse

aro: barn owl

ara: tiger

arza: white rhinoceros

aricorn: spider monkey

ariborn: ring-tailed lemur

arnius: tabby cat

arius: megabat

asci: rock dove

asces: pied crow

armino: lion

armini: eurasian wolf

arcer: gerbil

arcen: newt

arus: bush-tailed porcupine

arun: philippine forest rat

taurrist: asiatic cheetah

taurries: asian black bear

taurgo: nubian giraffe

taurga: cinereous vulture

taurittanius: roan

taurittarius: southern marsupial mole

taurpio: right whale

taurpia: asian elephant

taurlo: sea eagle

tauro: grass owl

taurra: sheep

taurza: sumatran rhinoceros

tauricorn: vervet monkey

tauriborn: aye-aye

taurnius: jungle cat

taurrius: flying fox

taursci: trocaz pigeon

taursces: american crow

taurmino: kit fox

taurmini: tundra wolf

taurcer: guinea pig

taurcen: seal

taurus: crested porcupine

taurun: nile rat

gemrist: north american cougar

gemries: atlas bear

gemgo: west african giraffe

gemga: white-rumped vulture

gemittanius: waterbuck

gemittarius: northern marsupial mole

gempio: blue whale

gempia: blue-ringed octopus

gemlo: snake-eagle

gemo: sooty owl

gemra: argali

gemza: black rhinoceros

gemicorn: proboscis monkey

gemiborn: sifaka

gemnius: european wildcat

gemrius: egyptian fruit bat

gemsci: laurel pigeon

gemsces: cape crow

gemmino: red fox

gemini: arabian wolf

gemcer: dove

gemcen: house mouse

gemus: long-tailed porcupine

gemun: moluccan prehensile-tailed rat

canrist: florida panther

canries: blue bear

cango: reticulated giraffe

canga: black vulture

canittanius: eland

canittarius: golden mole

canpio: bryde’s whale

canpia: dumbo octopus

canlo: black-chested buzzard-eagle

cano: itombwe owl

canra: mouflon

canza: indian rhinoceros

canicorn: pygmy marmoset

caniborn: mouse lemur

canius: black-footed cat

canrius: california leaf-nosed bat

cansci: hill pigeon

cansces: hooded crow

canmino: cape fox

canmini: steppe wolf

cancer: humming bird

cancen: mayor’s moue

canus: bristle-spined rat

canun: bulldog rat

lerist: african leopard

leries: eurasian brown bear

lego: angolan giraffe

lega: turkey vulture

leittanius: gerenuk

leittarius: eurasian beaver

lepio: fin whale

lepia: mimic octopus

lelo: black solitary eagle

leo: bay owl

lera: urial

leza: nile hippopotamus

leicorn: rhesus macaque

leiborn: cockatiel

lenius: sand cat

lerius: hondurian white bat

lesci: snow pigeon

lesces: somali crow

lemino: arctic fox

lemini: mongolian wolf

lecer: flying squirrel

lecen: sikkim mouse

leus: prehensile-tailed porcupine

leun: kerala rat

virrist: javan leopard

virries: eurasian brown bear

virgo: south african giraffe

virga: california condor

virittanius: steenbok

virittarius: north american beaver

virpio: see whale

virpia: blanket octopus

virlo: crested eagle

viro: scops owl

virra: bighorn sheep

virza: east african hippopotamus

viricorn: gibbon

viriborn: parrotlet

virnius: chinese mountain cat

virrius: big brown cat

virsci: specled pigeon

virsces: flores crow

virmino: fennec fox

virmini: dingo

vircer: unstriped ground squirrel

vircen: volcano mouse

virus: electric eel

virun: himilayan field rat

librist: northern goshawk

libries: grizzly bear

libgo: masai giraffe

libga: greater flamingo

libittanius: nyala

libittarius: star-nosed mole

lipio: chilean dolphin

lipia: coconut octopus

liblo: harpy eagle

libo: screech owl

libra: thinhorn sheep

libza: cape hippopotamus

libicorn: bornean orangutan

libiborn: caique

libnius: amazon weasel

librius: dwarf epaulettes fruit bat

libsci: wood pigeon

libsces: bismark crow

limino: grey fox

limini: dog

libcer: indian palm squirrel

libcen: indian field mouse

libus: hog-nosed skunk

libun: sunburned rat

scorrist: gray-bellied hawk

scorries: east siberian brown bear

scorgo: thornicroft’s giraffe

scorga: lesser flamingo

scorittanius: klipspringer

scorittarius: hairy-tailed mole

scorpio: arabian dolphin

scorpia: giant squid

scorlo: papuan eagle

scoro: snowy owl

scorra: snow sheep

scorza: west african hippopotamus

scoricorn: sumatran orangutan

scoriborn: lorikeet

scornius: mountain weasel

scorrius: split-nosed bat

scorsci: comoros olive pigeon

scorsces: white-necked crow

scormino: swift fox

scormini: tibetan wolf

scorcer: eastern grey squirrel

scorcen: ryukyu mouse

scorus: hooded skunk

scorun: aceh rat

sagirist: red-chested goshawk

sagiries: syrian brown bear

sagigo: pig

sagiga: chilean flamingo

sagiittanius: kudu

sagiittarius: eastern mole

sagipio: long-beaked dolphin

sagipia: colossal squid

sagilo: balck eagle

sagio: great horned owl

sagira: red kangaroo

sagiza: angola hippopotamus

sagiicorn: tapanuli orangutan

sagiiborn: parakeet

saginius: steppe polecat

sagirius: brown long-eared bat

sagisci: white-naped pigeon

sagisces: jungle crow

sagimino: plains bison

sagimini: japanese wolf

sagicer: colorado chipmunk

sagicen: cook’s mouse

sagius: striped skunk

sagiun: snake

capririst: besra

capriries: giant panda

caprigo: chicken

capriga: jame’s flamingo

capriittanius: lechwe

capriittarius: gansu mole

capripio: killer whale

capripia: humboldt squid

caprilo: spotted eagle

caprio: eagle owl

caprira: eastern grey kangaroo

capriza: north american ostrich

capriicorn: eastern gorilla

capriiborn: pianos parrot

caprinius: long-tailed weasel

capririus: mediterranean horseshoe bat

caprisci: stork

caprisces: fish crow

caprimino: wood bison

caprimini: indian wolf

capricer: grey-collard chipmun

capricen: cypriot mouse

caprius: spotted skunk

capriun: spider

aquarist: long-tailed hawk

aquaries: sloth bear

aquago: red junglefowl

aquaga: andean flamingo

aquittanius: springbok

aquittarius: long-tailed mole

aquapio: pilot whale

aquapia: japanese flying squid

aqualo: tawny eagle

aquo: fish owl

aquara: western grey kangaroo

aquaza: masai ostrich

aquicorn: western gorilla

aquiborn: cockatoo

aquanius: yellow-bellied weasel

aquarius: raccoon

aquasci: goose

aquasces: house crow

aquamino: european bison

aquamini: arctic wolf

aquacer: gray-footed chipmunk

aquacen: steppe mouse

aqus: fattail scorpion

aqun: alligator

pirist: chanting goshawk

piries: polar bear

pigo: cow

piga: american flamingo

piittanius: sable antelope

piittarius: japanese shrew mole

pipio: houglass dolphin

pipia: vampire squid

pilo: camel

pio: spotted wood owl

pira: antilopine kangaroo

piza: arabian ostrich

piicorn: chimpanzee

piiborn: conure

pinius: european mink

pirius: koalas

pisci: duck

pisces: palm crow

pimino: water buffalo

pimini: baffin island wolf

picer: uinta chipmunk

picen: meerkat

pius: pandinus

piun: crocodile

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Lazy shit the rat

yesterday me and my mom (bro was there too) went up to get some ratties. we were planning on getting two males, but we ended up getting four (3 males, one female, we already had two adult females at my father's house) the female is a ruby-eyed hairless called garnet. my brother named one of the males Drip, the reason we named him this is because he was sitting under a water bottle and not giving a shit that he was getting covered in water. we got one rex Himilayan, I still haven't chosen a name for him. and finally the last one is technically named Lebowski or The Dude (my mom named him) but before he was named, we all called him lazy shit, and i still call him that

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More baby spam! Champagne and Himilayan.

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Why are you breeding if you don't know basic facts about the variety you're working with? That rat is NOT a himilayan. Himilayans are born pure white and develop their points later. Siamese are born a creamy, beige or dark color with points. Check the AFRMA standards as well please. There's a very clear difference between the two. I don't even work with this variety and I know that.

Oh my God I am so fucking sick of this bullshit myth.

This baby is the result of a Siamese and Albino pairing. Unless there's some genetic fuckery I'm not aware of, it is IMPOSSIBLE for this rat to be Siamese. Why?

Siamese: c(h)c(h)

Himalayan: c(h)c

Albino: cc

Do a little punnet square in your head with the Siamese and Albino genotype. If you can't, I'll help. In every single square, it'll say "c(h)c" meaning... HIMALAYAN. Even if my doe is actually Himalayan, half the boxes would be "c(h)c" and half would be "cc". No babies would have the Siamese genotype of "c(h)c(h)".

This only way to know with 100% certainty what these rats are is by:

1) Test breeding by pairing a Siamese/Himalayan rat with an Albino. Produce even one, single albino? The rat is Himalayan. In a small litter with no albinos you may want to repeat the test breeding just in case. This is because as shown above, a Siamese x Albino pairing will have Himalayan fill 100% of the squares, but Himalayan x Albino allows for Albinos to be produced.

2) Pairing two confirmed Siamese together. The offspring will be 100% Siamese.

If you know your lines well you can also gage what they are with pretty good accuracy, but I also have seen people who were absolutely certain their rats were one thing, and then the offspring showed they actually had to be another. This can get especially complicated if you have blue point hiding in there that you weren't aware of, which can be mistaken for Himalayan. Marked Siamese and Himalayan can also throw people off. Or if you've only been breeding Siamese to Siamese, then you'll know 100% of the offspring is Siamese.

Anyway, Himalayans can start out with color, especially well bred Himalayans, but they don't HAVE to be well bred either to show color. It's just much more likely. Poor Siamese can start out white and develop points later on too!

Here, let me show you a few pics.

From left to right:

1. The Himalayan baby, where his creamy color is even more obvious. Remember, he's from a pairing of Albino and Siamese, he CANNOT be Siamese. He HAS to be Himalayan. This is not debatable.

2. Noodles, with her lone little dot on her nose being her only point. She started out white and didn't develop points until she was like 5 weeks old. I was barely able to tell she wasn't Albino when I picked her up, she just had the faintest bit of brown. Himalayan, right? Nope, she's Siamese. This is the Himalayan baby's grandmother.

3. Siamese and Himalayan, right? Nope! Seal point and Blue point Siamese. I had no idea I had this in my lines, and for a long time I assumed the lighter babies of this litter were Himalayans.

You. Cannot. Reliably. Tell. With. 100%. Certainty. Whether. They. Are. Siamese. Or. Himalayan. By. Appearance. Alone. So unless you have information about the rat's parents, it's incorrect to tell someone you know whether their rat is Siamese or Himalayan based purely on the way they look.

As far as the AFRMA standards? Those are standards, focusing on phenotype, not genotype. The ideal standard for a Himalayan according to them is being crisp white with dark contrasting points, and for Siamese to be beige with their points gradually and even shading. However, again, this is just the standard. That's the ideal. It doesn't account for things mismarks or poor examples of the variety. IIRC, it's even admitted that many rats shown as Himalayan are just poor Siamese!

"Siamese are born with color, Himalayans are born white and develop points later on. Himalayans are white with contrasting points and Siamese are beige with gradual shading from their points." is a loose guideline that only sort of works under certain situations. It is not absolute fact.

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New Rat Breeding and Care Blog

Hello, all! I'm a rat breeder from Wisconsin. I'm currently focusing on Pet Quality Siamese and Black Self, selecting for larger sizes, shorter tails, and short broad noses. The first two are personal preference, the last one is to reduce the instance of respiratory issues. On Ratbook, or the Facebook rat community, I've noticed A LOT of people taking improper care of their rats and spreading old myths that have been proven wrong. I'm hoping to catalog my journey as a breeder, and have a resource to link to for information on dispelled myths, and information I can link to in order to help people improve the quality of life of their rats rather than repeating myself constantly.

Anyway, here's the babies from my first litter, marked Siamese. I learned a good deal about the genetics from my first pairing: The biggest surprise was I believed both rats were himilayans, but it turned out one is actually siamese as there were no albinos. I also suspect there is (currently verrry poor) satin in my lines as well, and am holding back the babies suspected to express it.